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[Q] Keeping Your CSC the same

I would like to know if it's possible to modify the CSC in the img file before loading with Odin, for the purpose to being able to use a ROM of a different region, while maintaining the same CSC. (and without WIPE)
So I want to change the German CSC in the German 4.1.2 GT-8000 ROM to Canadian CSC before loading with Odin, that way the CSC and PDA match for future OTA purposes.
The method is as described here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1913034
Is this possible?
I opened cache.ext4 in DiskInternals, and extracted the sec_csc.zip and found the CSC folders.
However, none of them was Canadian.
Would it be possible to copy my existing CSC folder from my 4.0.4 Note 10.1 and replace and repackage the German 4.1.2 ROM with the Canadian CSC?

From what I know it is not possible
But you can do the other way around change the CSC code of you device to the german code by download the app from play store but when you do that it will do a complete data wipe

You can change CSC folders inside a custom rom and then flash .
Or via Root Explorer or Android Commander change the CSC files on the phone itself .
Or you could flash a CSC on its own via Odin if you can find one or make one .
jje

Other than not being able to use ota updates whats wrong with having a miss matched csc? I flashed the UK 4.1.1 on my Canadian 8010 leaving the CSC alone and I have no problems. After that I rooted with Chainfire's Exynos Abuse app so I don't much care about OTA I will just use Odin. If the Canadian 4.1 EVER comes out maybe I will flash it but I don't see much point.

Don't you need the same csc for your region when you are sending the tablet for warranty purposes?
Sent from my GT-N8010 using xda app-developers app

There are reports that say it is impossible to revert back to the same CSC even after flashing a ROM that native to your region after flashing the German Rom.
mikemod said:
After doing this I have now flashed the UK JB release hoping to match the CSC again but the CSC in KIES is now BGL
It looks like you cant go back to your own region after flashing the German JB on a UK device..
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Once you go German, you never go back.

redragonx6 said:
Don't you need the same csc for your region when you are sending the tablet for warranty purposes?
Sent from my GT-N8010 using xda app-developers app
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Warranty requires full firmware and CSC to match the phone plus system status not modified and custom rom counter at zero .
Personally CSC is deleted as soon as i have a copy of the original firmware .
Also Kies and OTA stuff and bloatware .
jje

kind of hesitant to flash the german rom since I cant find the rom for my canadian tablet

JJEgan said:
Warranty requires full firmware and CSC to match the phone plus system status not modified and custom rom counter at zero .
Personally CSC is deleted as soon as i have a copy of the original firmware .
Also Kies and OTA stuff and bloatware .
jje
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Are you saying, with the original firmware, you can recover the CSC and return the modified status to normal and the counter to 0?
Even after flashing ROMS from different regions such as the German ROM?

klau1 said:
There are reports that say it is impossible to revert back to the same CSC even after flashing a ROM that native to your region after flashing the German Rom.
Once you go German, you never go back.
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That isn't correct I have installed N-8010 4.1.1 German ROM then N-8000 4.1.2 German ROM, run CSC Select, changed back to N-8010 4.1.1 German ROM, now flashed N-8010 4.1.1 UK and I am back to the correct UK CSC and 'Official'. I have since rooted and set binary counter back to zero. No issues :laugh:

BlackDog24 said:
That isn't correct I have installed N-8010 4.1.1 German ROM then N-8000 4.1.2 German ROM, run CSC Select, changed back to N-8010 4.1.1 German ROM, now flashed N-8010 4.1.1 UK and I am back to the correct UK CSC and 'Official'. I have since rooted and set binary counter back to zero. No issues :laugh:
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Hope more ppl confirm this great result

We have another person whose CSC stayed the same.
This is good news. Tho we don't know why it changed permanently for others.
thedegg said:
my n8010 uk, i update first german 8010 rom 4.1.1 single method, not double method with ics first. everything run fine and kies not let me update as said modified but csc still says btu
just put uk n8010 4.1.1 over the top via odin , everthing fine kies says i have latest version now. all good back to normal btu still.
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I used the German two step method and then overwrote that with the single German JB Rom.
I did get my CSC back to BTU by going back to ICS, factory reset and then KIES updated to JB OTA.
My flash counter still remains at 0 and has never incremented so still never needed to root it.

Ok When you update to JB 4.1.2 it will always say that your device is uptodate on the first boot, to check whether OTA is working or not go to update in settings and manually search for an update if it says no update found it means it is detecting you device if it goes into a loop of searching means it not.
No matter how many times you install a rom or which region rom you install or which version rom you install if it is a stock rom your flash counter will never increase.
It will only increase if you install a custom rom or custom recovery

Some people with the 8013 have seen their flash count increase after installing the official German JB ROM
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So I installed JB the first way and had mentioned here having problems with AllShare Cast Dongle. So I checked my flash count and it showed Custom and a flash count of 2. Per these instructions I installed the complete JB PDA and instead of getting a flash count to 0 now I have a flash count of 4. Here is exactly what my tablet says when I'm in download mode.
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PRODUCT NAME: GT-N8013
CUSTOM BINARY DOWNLOAD: Yes (4 Counts)
CURRENT BINARY: Custom
SYSTEM STATUS: Custom
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yes it could be because the JB rom is for a different model and hence the system treats it as custom rom, just download triangleaway and reset the counter

[Q] Change EU version to DBT version with Odin

Dear all,
we have the problem, that we are not able to change a Note 3 free EU version (for example from poland XEO) to a DBT version.
After starting the flashing process everything will stop after short time and Odin shows fail.
Do you have a solution for that?
Many thanks in advance,
Markus

Q&A no? reported!
The answer is simple: Don't flash other region firmwares on your Note 3. Simple

conbey said:
Dear all,
we have the problem, that we are not able to change a Note 3 free EU version (for example from poland XEO) to a DBT version.
After starting the flashing process everything will stop after short time and Odin shows fail.
Do you have a solution for that?
Many thanks in advance,
Markus
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Which Odin-version did you use? For the latest phones, you'll have to use v3.09
Have a look at SamMobile:
Odin 3.09 https://hotfile.com/dl/248246506/848df76/Odin3_v3.09.zip.html
DBT-firmware http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/3/?download=20383
After this, clear the cache and factory reset via POWER-HOME-VOL UP
Then the CSC should be changed to DBT

It was checked with different Odin versions, 3.09, 3.07 etc.

I have tested it with the BTU und DBT version now and both brick after few seconds.
The recovery of the XEO version works fine with odin.
I give up for today!

Nothing? Reallly no solution for that problem? ;-(

I never thought about putting a different region FW on any of my phones. What would be the advantage of doing so, despite than screwing up some bands so that the phone doesn't work properly anymore?

The advantage is that updates will come earlier, different functions between different FWs etc.

conbey said:
Dear all,
we have the problem, that we are not able to change a Note 3 freely be U version (for example from pcarefully ) to a DBT version.
After starting the flashing process everything will stop after short time and Odin shows fail.
Do you have a solution for that?
Many thanks in advance,
Markus
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Have you tried to root it? Maybe DBT is yet on your device and with an app like CSC select you will be able to do what you want (be carefully as it is the best way to avoid your knoks warranty)

I don't want to root!

You can build your own tar without the bootloader. I think that it is the only way

How?

[Q] Going back to stock!

Hello guys and happy new year!
I couldn't resist so I flashed my S4 (9505) with Omega ROM. Now I want to go back to stock firmware but I also want everything runs ok. I flashed MKF with Odin but I can't get the updates. I always get the message "Your device is modified etc" or something like this. I thought that might be the counter so with Triangle Away turn the counter to 0 and the system status to Samsung Official. I unrooted the phone as well but I still get the same message. The strange thing here is that if go to Settings->More->About device->Status, the device status says Custom.
Then I read that CSC should match with firmware and the phone. I didn't know how to check my device's CSC and I found googling about Checkfus app. The product code ends with CYO. Acccording to sammobile the latest firmware for CYO is 4.2.2. I also tried with CSC changer to change the CSC but without success.
Can I have the MKF firmware but getting the updates? CYO is for Cyprus but I'm living at Greece. Greece CSC is EUR and 4.3 it's available.
Thanks in advance,
Sofos.

Try this guide for change ur CSC:
- U have to root ur phone
- Make a SD Internal Backup
- For change CSC only download this program HERE
- Select ur region code
- Enjoy it :highfive:

Thank you. It did the trick

[Q] Flashing stock

Hello,
Firstly i searched the forum for a good answer but didn't find one. Sorry in advance if this question has been already answered and i didn't see the thread \ post.
I would like to change my firmware from 4.2.2 NB5 ORO CSC to 4.2.2 ND5 ( or the latest ) NEE CSC. Is that possbile via odin without changing my CSC ? I mean if i just flash it directly will it work ?
My phone is not rooted and i know that in order to change the CSC i have to rood it. My phone is also locked on my carrier, Orange.
Thank you and sorry if this is a repost of something similar.

fookea said:
Hello,
Firstly i searched the forum for a good answer but didn't find one. Sorry in advance if this question has been already answered and i didn't see the thread \ post.
I would like to change my firmware from 4.2.2 NB5 ORO CSC to 4.2.2 ND5 ( or the latest ) NEE CSC. Is that possbile via odin without changing my CSC ? I mean if i just flash it directly will it work ?
My phone is not rooted and i know that in order to change the CSC i have to rood it. My phone is also locked on my carrier, Orange.
Thank you and sorry if this is a repost of something similar.
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You can flash the ROM without updating your CSC IF the AP file does not contain the CSC file. If the ROM does not specify in its name that it only includes XXX or YYY without any mention of CSC, then you're fine (Assuming you download from Sammobile). If it does say something related to CSC codes or there are 3 model numbers (different or not) on the file name, then it includes the CSC.
You don't need to root to change CSC. You need the Samsung dialer code + your IMEI number, which will factory reset your phone but change your CSC.

nicholaschum said:
You can flash the ROM without updating your CSC IF the AP file does not contain the CSC file. If the ROM does not specify in its name that it only includes XXX or YYY without any mention of CSC, then you're fine (Assuming you download from Sammobile). If it does say something related to CSC codes or there are 3 model numbers (different or not) on the file name, then it includes the CSC.
You don't need to root to change CSC. You need the Samsung dialer code + your IMEI number, which will factory reset your phone but change your CSC.
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http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/3/?download=28789
This is the ROM i wanted to flash. I'm not quite sure if it includes or not what you said. It should be NEE CSC so i think i can't flash it...right ? :-s
If i can't flash it, can you give me a link to an example firmware that i can flash, other than my stock ORO CSC rom ?
The dialer code + IMEI doesn't work for me. I tried * # 272 *IMEI # and it says the code is invalid. Maybe because i'm branded on Orange ?

fookea said:
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/3/?download=28789
This is the ROM i wanted to flash. I'm not quite sure if it includes or not what you said. It should be NEE CSC so i think i can't flash it...right ? :-s
If i can't flash it, can you give me a link to an example firmware that i can flash, other than my stock ORO CSC rom ?
The dialer code + IMEI doesn't work for me. I tried * # 272 *IMEI # and it says the code is invalid. Maybe because i'm branded on Orange ?
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That is a full ROM. It includes everything - AP, CP and CSC.
I don't understand, do you just want to get rid of your ORO CSC ROM? You should be able to install your NEE ROM perfectly fine.

nicholaschum said:
That is a full ROM. It includes everything - AP, CP and CSC.
I don't understand, do you just want to get rid of your ORO CSC ROM? You should be able to install your NEE ROM perfectly fine.
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Yes, i want to fully get rid of this ROM because updates on this CSC are so friggin slow it's driving me mad. I want to completly move to NEE ROM. So i can flash this ROM perfectly with the instructions on Sammobile in the link right ?

fookea said:
Yes, i want to fully get rid of this ROM because updates on this CSC are so friggin slow it's driving me mad. I want to completly move to NEE ROM. So i can flash this ROM perfectly with the instructions on Sammobile in the link right ?
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You'll have to unlock your phone first on a website, then you're free to install any ROM from any country. If not it will still be locked to Orange.

nicholaschum said:
You'll have to unlock your phone first on a website, then you're free to install any ROM from any country. If not it will still be locked to Orange.
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No problem about that, i am still gonna be on Orange anyway. I don't want to unlock it just want to get a different ROM with a newer build number so i can (probably) get away from this stupid battery drain.

fookea said:
No problem about that, i am still gonna be on Orange anyway. I don't want to unlock it just want to get a different ROM with a newer build number so i can (probably) get away from this stupid battery drain.
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Give it a go, if you can't get it to work, just reflash your stock Orange.
The absolute worst thing that could happen is that KNOX would go 0x1, but you will still get your updates. If that happens, you should really just use custom ROMs, they're wonderful and updates more often.

nicholaschum said:
Give it a go, if you can't get it to work, just reflash your stock Orange.
The absolute worst thing that could happen is that KNOX would go 0x1, but you will still get your updates. If that happens, you should really just use custom ROMs, they're wonderful and updates more often.
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I know about custom ROMs and i've been looking and them and i really wish i would have the gut to just screw my warranty but i can't do it just now. I've had some problems with my old Xperia Z and i'm lucky i had custom roms but on locked BL so i could claim my warranty. I can't even root it and it's just killing me but meh...
okay, i'll give it a go thanks for the advice and time spent answering to me ! Cheers !

fookea said:
Hello,
Firstly i searched the forum for a good answer but didn't find one. Sorry in advance if this question has been already answered and i didn't see the thread \ post.
I would like to change my firmware from 4.2.2 NB5 ORO CSC to 4.2.2 ND5 ( or the latest ) NEE CSC. Is that possbile via odin without changing my CSC ? I mean if i just flash it directly will it work ?
My phone is not rooted and i know that in order to change the CSC i have to rood it. My phone is also locked on my carrier, Orange.
Thank you and sorry if this is a repost of something similar.
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I don't know how to answer your question but let me ask you... What is CSC and why you don't wanna change it ?

WandersonGD said:
I don't know how to answer your question but let me ask you... What is CSC and why you don't wanna change it ?
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CSC is your region\carrier customization. It dictates what your updates are , what they contains and when you get them . I want to change it but i know ( i might be wrong about this ) that it's only possible via rooting, wich i can't do atm

OK so i flashed the NEE straight on my NB4 ORO firmware and it worked flawlessly.
So for everybody that is asking this: you can flash any full ROM with any CSC on top of any other CSC . This is my experience and i hope it goes well with you ! Good luck !

WandersonGD said:
I don't know how to answer your question but let me ask you... What is CSC and why you don't wanna change it ?
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CSC is Customer Sales Code. You want to change it when you want to debrand/debloat your phone by removing carrier-specific apps or update it to another carrier's update stream (to get a different carrier's upgrades). It also allows for you to get correct APN values if your carrier's auto assign doesn't work properly.
You don't need root to change it, you need Odin and the CSC package. You can use the Samsung code + IMEI as a last resort.
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fookea said:
OK so i flashed the NEE straight on my NB4 ORO firmware and it worked flawlessly.
So for everybody that is asking this: you can flash any full ROM with any CSC on top of any other CSC . This is my experience and i hope it goes well with you ! Good luck !
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Good job man! But you have to be aware, I did some research before you did it. It does not apply to all devices. As the Russian ORO and Nordic Countries are the "same" region, I automatically assumed you bought your device in Europe, hence you won't be region locked out of your device. If you had a Hong Kong device you will have to take account for your storage difference (whether its 16GB or 32GB) as ROMs are usually for the 32GB PIT (bootloader), and any flashing of other region based ROMs COULD brick your device.

nicholaschum said:
CSC is Customer Sales Code. You want to change it when you want to debrand/debloat your phone by removing carrier-specific apps or update it to another carrier's update stream (to get a different carrier's upgrades). It also allows for you to get correct APN values if your carrier's auto assign doesn't work properly.
You don't need root to change it, you need Odin and the CSC package. You can use the Samsung code + IMEI as a last resort.
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Good job man! But you have to be aware, I did some research before you did it. It does not apply to all devices. As the Russian ORO and Nordic Countries are the "same" region, I automatically assumed you bought your device in Europe, hence you won't be region locked out of your device. If you had a Hong Kong device you will have to take account for your storage difference (whether its 16GB or 32GB) as ROMs are usually for the 32GB PIT (bootloader), and any flashing of other region based ROMs COULD brick your device.
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Nice find , thanks for pointing it out. I don't think I have a region lock, it didn't have any of the stickers that usually say it's region locked. But yea, my version is from Europe.
p.s. ORO is from Romania

fookea said:
Nice find , thanks for pointing it out. I don't think I have a region lock, it didn't have any of the stickers that usually say it's region locked. But yea, my version is from Europe.
p.s. ORO is from Romania
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Ahh cool cool, I guess I looked over too quickly but on Sammobile it said there was a Russian ORO too

nicholaschum said:
Ahh cool cool, I guess I looked over too quickly but on Sammobile it said there was a Russian ORO too
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I can only see SER and MGF CSC on sammobile . It doesn't matter anyway because it seems in the end it's ok to flash anything inside your region

fookea said:
I can only see SER and MGF CSC on sammobile . It doesn't matter anyway because it seems in the end it's ok to flash anything inside your region
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That was embarrassing xD I just relooked and yeah you're right
It was a glance problem on my end. Sorry! But yeah it still applies

Stock firmware

Since i got the s4 i played alot with the custom roms and stock roms. i want to know which fimware country came with the device. i don't want to install any firmware from sammobile. can anyone tell me how to know that ?

Is this phone unlocked? If so, you can install any stock ROM you want that matches the device model number. The CSC in this case does not matter and in fact the CSC may change to something other than the country you're downloading for. As an example, I downloaded firmware with a CSC of BTU, installed it on my phone, watched as three Swiss apps were installed on the phone (all easy to remove) and discovered that the CSC changed to AUT.
Other than sammobile, the only alternative that I know of is samsung-updates.com. But tell me, what is the problem with sammobile.com?

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Is this phone unlocked? If so, you can install any stock ROM you want that matches the device model number. The CSC in this case does not matter and in fact the CSC may change to something other than the country you're downloading for. As an example, I downloaded firmware with a CSC of BTU, installed it on my phone, watched as three Swiss apps were installed on the phone (all easy to remove) and discovered that the CSC changed to AUT.
Other than sammobile, the only alternative that I know of is samsung-updates.com. But tell me, what is the problem with sammobile.com?
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Iam talking about that i don't want any CSC i want the one that came with the phone(Unlocked) but you already said that it doesn't matter

AbdoAdel said:
Iam talking about that i don't want any CSC i want the one that came with the phone(Unlocked) but you already said that it doesn't matter
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You can install this app for know what CSC do you own: HERE