[Q] snapchat won't receive or record videos - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Since upgrading to 4.3, snapchat has not been able to load videos. it just keeps refreshing at "tap to load" i also noticed that when attempting to record video, the screen freezes until you lift your finger, then snapchat treats it like a picture.. so i cannot record or send videos either.
anyone else encounter this? fyi, i also installed the moto x camera and am using the banks gapps with photosphere add on. this problem is persistent in two different jss 4.3 aosp roms. i tried clearing app data, uninstalling, reinstall, no change.

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im going to bump this issue because i have some thoughts on what might be the issue..
titanium restore.. there was an incompatibility with 4.3 when 4.3 was released. of course i had flashed 4.3 prior to titanium app update and used it to restore snapchat. this is when the no video problem started.
my hypothesis is this.. snapchat needs to store your videos locally on the phone before viewing, then deletes it after viewing. do you think that when titanium restored the app, it restored it with incorrect internal storage mapping? if snapchat can't access internal storage, that would explain why it cant load or record videos.
now, ive uninstalled and reinstalled snapchat before with no luck.. might that be because snapchat leaves bits and pieces of itself in the phone therefore never really has a fresh install?
if this is the case, how can i go about hunting down every last bit of snapchat?

.dan said:
im going to bump this issue because i have some thoughts on what might be the issue..
titanium restore.. there was an incompatibility with 4.3 when 4.3 was released. of course i had flashed 4.3 prior to titanium app update and used it to restore snapchat. this is when the no video problem started.
my hypothesis is this.. snapchat needs to store your videos locally on the phone before viewing, then deletes it after viewing. do you think that when titanium restored the app, it restored it with incorrect internal storage mapping? if snapchat can't access internal storage, that would explain why it cant load or record videos.
now, ive uninstalled and reinstalled snapchat before with no luck.. might that be because snapchat leaves bits and pieces of itself in the phone therefore never really has a fresh install?
if this is the case, how can i go about hunting down every last bit of snapchat?
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I'm able to view videos fine, but I'm having the same problem recording videos. One thing I've noticed, if I flash a new rom [complete wipe] I can record videos fine for a few hours, but after that it starts acting up again [recording, but then only saving the first frame and sending only a picture.]
Also, I should note I'm on a Galaxy S3, noticed this issue on Cyanogenmod [4.2+] and ParanoidAndroid [4.2+], haven't tried stock. I'll reply here if I figure it out, let me know if you have any results too!

iSecks said:
I'm able to view videos fine, but I'm having the same problem recording videos. One thing I've noticed, if I flash a new rom [complete wipe] I can record videos fine for a few hours, but after that it starts acting up again [recording, but then only saving the first frame and sending only a picture.]
Also, I should note I'm on a Galaxy S3, noticed this issue on Cyanogenmod [4.2+] and ParanoidAndroid [4.2+], haven't tried stock. I'll reply here if I figure it out, let me know if you have any results too!
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I did find a solution. I uninstalled Snapchat then went into twrp recovery and deleted the folder associated with it located at data/media/android/data/*snapchat*
Reboot and reinstall Snapchat. That folder will be recreated... Correctly.. With what I believe to be the right permissions.
If you want to try something else first try the app "fix permissions" and run it on Snapchat. Maybe that will fix the permissions of the folder.
Lastly there is a zip you can flash that fixes all permissions on your internal storage to proactively fix this issue for any other app. Search for fix internal storage permissions. The thread should come up.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2239421
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.dan said:
I did find a solution. I uninstalled Snapchat then went into twrp recovery and deleted the folder associated with it located at data/media/android/data/*snapchat*
Reboot and reinstall Snapchat. That folder will be recreated... Correctly.. With what I believe to be the right permissions.
If you want to try something else first try the app "fix permissions" and run it on Snapchat. Maybe that will fix the permissions of the folder.
Lastly there is a zip you can flash that fixes all permissions on your internal storage to proactively fix this issue for any other app. Search for fix internal storage permissions. The thread should come up.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2239421
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Thanks. I boot to TWRP 2.6.x, File Manager, use chmod on snapchat folder and subfolders, reboot and the video record works. This was on Supernexus 4.3 on T-Mobile Galaxy S2 T989.

.dan said:
I did find a solution. I uninstalled Snapchat then went into twrp recovery and deleted the folder associated with it located at data/media/android/data/*snapchat*
Reboot and reinstall Snapchat. That folder will be recreated... Correctly.. With what I believe to be the right permissions.
If you want to try something else first try the app "fix permissions" and run it on Snapchat. Maybe that will fix the permissions of the folder.
Lastly there is a zip you can flash that fixes all permissions on your internal storage to proactively fix this issue for any other app. Search for fix internal storage permissions. The thread should come up.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2239421
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4
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when i go into the /data folder it says TWRP stopped working. any ideas?

bchi49 said:
Thanks. I boot to TWRP 2.6.x, File Manager, use chmod on snapchat folder and subfolders, reboot and the video record works. This was on Supernexus 4.3 on T-Mobile Galaxy S2 T989.
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I'm a little slow, what is chmod? I tried finding the snapchat folder to delete after unistall, but could not. I'm flashing a new rom now coincidentally so I'm hoping snapchat will just work after that... otherwise I might try this fix permissions app. I would really like to be able to send video snaps. Seems like it should be an easy enough thing....

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Also having this problem. I installed Cyanogenmod 10.2 on my GS3, used titanium backup. Ended up reverting to my nandroid backup a few hours later, and now my snapchat cannot record videos, look at videos, OR see "My Story" posts (if i click on them, it does a quick load, but doesn't open)
I read through this thread, but cannot figure out how to delete the SnapChat folder in recovery mode. I tried deleting it in the TWRP file manager, and it SAYS it deleted it, but it is still there. Any help please?

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(Q) Apps disappear after fixing permissions

Im currently running Echoe Rom V13 4.3 and started getting issues with 'insufficient storage' on app update. The cure seemed to be deleting the duplicate entry for the app in data/app-lib.as the problem got worse I Eventually I re flashed the rom with a clean flash and all was good.
I had a few fc's on an app or 2 and thought no probs, I'll clean the caches in recovery after fixing permissions in ROM manager (as Philz doesnt seem to have a fix permissions option unlike CWM.
After this process I noticed 5 or 6 apps had disappeared from the phone completely. Strange. I'll just restore from Titanium. But trying every reinstall option and the app freezes.
Downloading from the play store brought the insufficient storage error back, but I could reinstall through My Backup.
So all ok now ? except going to update the new apps from Play brings back the insufficient storage message !
If I go into the app-lib folder these apps are showing 1 or 2 duplicates (I.e the file name with a -1 and -2 suffix. Delete these and reupdate and all is good.
However the issue then seems to 'spread' to other apps.
With hindsight this is exactly what happened at the start of the insufficient storage issue and the exact same apps disappeared. I really dont think its the apps in question (eg poweramp and Trustgo security that I have used without issue for years) but im confused as to what is happening and why ?
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How to remove google camera (and go back to aosp camera)?

Hi,
The new google camera app lags terribly on the nexus 4. Does anyone know how I can return to the asop camera app? I tried installing the apk but it just crashed. Any help would be very appreciated.
Thanks!
Are you rooted? If so, use Titanium Backup, ROM Toolbox, or similar app to covert it to a system app, and see if that solves your crashing problems.
I can't convert it to a system app if it doesn't let me install it. I am rooted and I placed the 4.4 camera apk in my system app folder and corrected the permissions, however, it still does not install.
Anyone have a solution?
Just restart the phone

youtube stops working after 6.0.1 update

My 6p was stock rooted using the "old" method with modified boot image (i.e. not systemless). I manually flashed the 6.0.1 update and apply superSU 2.62 (i.e. systemless root). The youtube app worked after the first boot, but when I rebooted the 6p the youtube app no longer works -- I kept getting "Please check your network connection". I uninstalled the app, clear app data/cache but to no avail. I even reflashed 6.0.1; again, the youtube app worked in the first boot, but no afterwards.
I've been on wifi all the time, and I could watch youtube from my browser by going to m.youtube.com (and use adobe flash).
Everything else works after the 6.0.1 update. I really don't want to have to do a factory reset. Please help!
try flashing an older version of youtube
Or, is it because two different root processes were used? Thought I read in another thread that causes issues????
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mistermojorizin said:
try flashing an older version of youtube
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Thanks. I tried that but it didn't work ("App not installed"). In fact I tried to install an old version in multiple ways:
* just install it from ES file explorer
* freeze the current one first using TB and then install
* put a copy of the old one in /data/app/com.google.android.youtube-1 and then install
* put a copy of the old one in /system/app/Youtube and then install
Same error message.
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Or, is it because two different root processes were used? Thought I read in another thread that causes issues????
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Never heard of that -- could you give me a reference? (I'm not disagreeing with you; I just want to learn more about it).
When I upgrade from 6 to 6.0.1. I reflashed everthing except userdata and recovery; in particular I had to reroot my 6p. I assume that would have erased the old root processes? (this is a question)
Please help me get back youtube!
case-sensitive said:
Thanks. I tried that but it didn't work ("App not installed"). In fact I tried to install an old version in multiple ways:
* just install it from ES file explorer
* freeze the current one first using TB and then install
* put a copy of the old one in /data/app/com.google.android.youtube-1 and then install
* put a copy of the old one in /system/app/Youtube and then install
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uninstall all updates to the youtube app. then, flash clear youtube 10.43 LP-MM - from here http://teamblackedout.com/Transparent/ . I flashed it using TWRP, it installs as a system app, replacing your stock youtube app. so if you want to keep the stock youtube app make a backup or know how to pull the stock gapp from the stock factory images.
my youtube didn't work earlier, this is what i did and now it's all working right again
Edit: important that it's the MM version (marshmallow) if you grab it from that link
mistermojorizin said:
uninstall all updates to the youtube app. then, flash clear youtube 10.43 LP-MM - from here http://teamblackedout.com/Transparent/ . I flashed it using TWRP, it installs as a system app, replacing your stock youtube app. so if you want to keep the stock youtube app make a backup or know how to pull the stock gapp from the stock factory images.
my youtube didn't work earlier, this is what i did and now it's all working right again
Edit: important that it's the MM version (marshmallow) if you grab it from that link
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Thanks! Question: How would I uninstall all updates to my current youtube app?
On my older devices, under Settings>Apps>Manage Apps there is indeed a button for "Uninstall updates", but I can't find that on my 6p (or even my KitKat or Lollipop devices). I probably missed it; please help!
case-sensitive said:
Thanks! Question: How would I uninstall all updates to my current youtube app?
On my older devices, under Settings>Apps>Manage Apps there is indeed a button for "Uninstall updates", but I can't find that on my 6p (or even my KitKat or Lollipop devices). I probably missed it; please help!
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Yea I noticed that was weird. You can do it by hitting the uninstall button in Google play. It'll ask "do you want to uninstall updates"
Or from that system app menu you mentioned, you can select De activate app and it'll ask you if you want to uninstall updates
mistermojorizin said:
Yea I noticed that was weird. You can do it by hitting the uninstall button in Google play. It'll ask "do you want to uninstall updates"
Or from that system app menu you mentioned, you can select De activate app and it'll ask you if you want to uninstall updates
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Thanks, but there is a new problem: On my 6p I don't even have the option to uninstall the youtube app!
I just notice that, according to TB, my phone only has one version of the youtube app; maybe that's why I can't uninstall updates? What would happen if I just flash the zip directly without uninstalling all updates?
case-sensitive said:
Thanks, but there is a new problem: On my 6p I don't even have the option to uninstall the youtube app!
I just notice that, according to TB, my phone only has one version of the youtube app; maybe that's why I can't uninstall updates? What would happen if I just flash the zip directly without uninstalling all updates?
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if TiBu doesn't say "updated" then you just have the stock system youtube. i flashed the team blackout zip right over that system version and it fixed my problem. if you're problem is the same as mine, it should work.
mistermojorizin said:
if TiBu doesn't say "updated" then you just have the stock system youtube. i flashed the team blackout zip right over that system version and it fixed my problem. if you're problem is the same as mine, it should work.
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The zip did remove the youtube system app. I then rebooted and successfully installed an older version of youtube. However, this older version (10.11.55) still gives me the "Check your network connection" error, and according to xprivacy this older version got installed as a system app!
When I first fired up the newer installed, older youtube I got a spinning circle on the screen. It seemed to try to log into my account and couldn't; maybe that's the network connection problem it refers to? BUT: (1) the play store works, (2) I've never logged into youtube (account blocked by xprivacy), (3) when I remove all xprivacy restriction the app still didn't work, (4) when I tried to manually sign into youtube it did not recognize my account!
I'm really confused. Suggestions and comments are most welcome!
case-sensitive said:
The zip did remove the youtube system app. I then rebooted and successfully installed an older version of youtube. However, this older version (10.11.55) still gives me the "Check your network connection" error, and according to xprivacy this older version got installed as a system app!
When I first fired up the newer installed, older youtube I got a spinning circle on the screen. It seemed to try to log into my account and couldn't; maybe that's the network connection problem it refers to? BUT: (1) the play store works, (2) I've never logged into youtube (account blocked by xprivacy), (3) when I remove all xprivacy restriction the app still didn't work, (4) when I tried to manually sign into youtube it did not recognize my account!
I'm really confused. Suggestions and comments are most welcome!
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10.11 may be too old a version. I just know 10.43 worked for me. i'd try that one if i were you
edit: if you flashed the 10.43 zip already, then installed 10.11 over it, you'd just need to uninstall updates to youtube and try to run the system version (which should be the 10.43 you flashed). also, try wiping YouTube app data in TiBu
mistermojorizin said:
10.11 may be too old a version. I just know 10.43 worked for me. i'd try that one if i were you
edit: if you flashed the 10.43 zip already, then installed 10.11 over it, you'd just need to uninstall updates to youtube and try to run the system version (which should be the 10.43 you flashed). also, try wiping YouTube app data in TiBu
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I installed a 64bit 10.43 youtube apk, but that didn't work either. So I uninstalled it from TB, but the youtube icon still showed up in the application tray even through the app not longer worked when I clicked on it. Instead of using the cleaning zip I used instead the root explorer option in ES file explorer to remove this left-over youtube apk. Reboot, youtube now was really gone from the app tray. Then I reinstalled the 10.43 apk, and wa la, it worked even after multiple reboots!
I don't exactly know what happens; I'm just glad that it works THANKS!

CM13 2016.06.12 Nightly (and older versions) Camera broken

Hi guys, since a month I have problems with my camera-app. I'm using CM13 nightlies, just reflashed from yesterday with Open GApps Nano (to not overwrite Snap Camera for a try). With WhatsApp I can take photos without a problem but for holidys the quality is too bad . I also tried Camera MX without success. When I take a picture it shows the preview in Snap Camera without problem (the small icon bottom left). If I want to navigate to Gallery it just shows grey or sometimes even no file is created. I've searched a lot but nothing helped. I also tried to revert to last build where it worked but only got bootloops. I also completely wiped my phone and removed sd card, no success.
Does anyone have a solution to my problem?
Bestregards
Tried it with nightly from today, no success. Also video recording force closes. No advice?
So after again a lot of reading, could my camera work again if i update baseband/modem/bootloader with latest from sammobile? Mine are really outdated from june 2015 (so lollipop version..)
If I update them I dont have to root etc, right?
best regards
So.. I tried OpenCamera again and set the save location to my download-filter (internal), this works. With my default Camera I can only save to internal, without choosing a dir so this doesnt work. Is there a possibility to fix the rights of DCIM so that the camera apps are allowed to write there?
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Seems like the permissions are the same from both folders. will try to delete the folder and let the app recreate it or possibly try sd-card as location..
I solved this now... I've installed latest CM13 nightly with camera fix https://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/c/156891, made a full wipe (except my internal user data) and clean install. Unfortunately this did'nt solve my problem. I also installed latest bootloader and modem, no success, too.
I think the solution was to change permissions of dcim to 777 via recovery... that's why I couldn't delete pictures or take pictures but it worked with open camera on another file path...

Random apps deleting in Lineage os

Guys I know it sounds crazy but sometimes when my phone is in charge and connected to WiFi my apps gets deleted. Now this happens as soon as play store updates some apps. And the crazier part is that my data stays intact. All I need to do is install the apk/download from play store and it's the same as before. The most affected app is Facebook, and then WhatsApp plus and canary (please don't tell because it's modded cuz Facebook and chrome canary aren't modded but same results). Now I'm on Lineage os the latest build with elementalx kernel. And no apps like greenify. I'm on the 43 variant(Indian) with open gapps (mini) and I clean flashed it.
The log I took was just after I realised that my apps had gone(not sure exactly when they were uninstalled but right after I realised) just unzip the file and you should have it.
AND YES THE POST SOUNDS CRAZY SO PLEASE DON'T TELL THAT. -_-
Ayan Uchiha Choudhury said:
Guys I know it sounds crazy but sometimes when my phone is in charge and connected to WiFi my apps gets deleted. Now this happens as soon as play store updates some apps. And the crazier part is that my data stays intact. All I need to do is install the apk/download from play store and it's the same as before. The most affected app is Facebook, and then WhatsApp plus and canary (please don't tell because it's modded cuz Facebook and chrome canary aren't modded but same results). Now I'm on Lineage os the latest build with elementalx kernel. And no apps like greenify. I'm on the 43 variant(Indian) with open gapps (mini) and I clean flashed it.
The log I took was just after I realised that my apps had gone(not sure exactly when they were uninstalled but right after I realised) just unzip the file and you should have it.
AND YES THE POST SOUNDS CRAZY SO PLEASE DON'T TELL THAT. -_-
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Same thing happened in resurrection remix latest build.
Whatsapp uninstalled automatically. But the data remains intact. I only installed apk of whatsapp and get whatsapp as i leaved.
Apps are also crashing in r.r.
If anyone needs more details am willing to help,
It's related to the external-SD camera fix
Ayan Uchiha Choudhury said:
Guys I know it sounds crazy but sometimes when my phone is in charge and connected to WiFi my apps gets deleted. Now this happens as soon as play store updates some apps. And the crazier part is that my data stays intact. All I need to do is install the apk/download from play store and it's the same as before. The most affected app is Facebook, and then WhatsApp plus and canary (please don't tell because it's modded cuz Facebook and chrome canary aren't modded but same results). Now I'm on Lineage os the latest build with elementalx kernel. And no apps like greenify. I'm on the 43 variant(Indian) with open gapps (mini) and I clean flashed it.
The log I took was just after I realised that my apps had gone(not sure exactly when they were uninstalled but right after I realised) just unzip the file and you should have it.
AND YES THE POST SOUNDS CRAZY SO PLEASE DON'T TELL THAT. -_-
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This is not a ROM related problem, the same happened to me when I used the ExtSD_Fix_rw-signed-v1.9b.zip which you can find in this post https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/themes/stock-motorola-camera-t3596659
I couldn't find out why the script in that zip causes apps to uninstall randomly when you reboot the device, but I corrected using this fix for the external-sd write for the camera: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/fix-motorala-camera-write-to-externalsd-t3498573 instead of that.
Also you have to use the regular moto camera ported which you can find on this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/themes/stock-camera-t3540473 but you have to manually delete the com.motorola.*** .jar files on /system/framework/
I made a zip that makes the instalation of the camera and the deletion of the com.motorola.*** .jar files automatically but undfortunately I can't post links that are outside the XDA forums yet. With that you'll only have to apply the fix for the external-sd manually
kur0g4ne said:
This is not a ROM related problem, the same happened to me when I used the ExtSD_Fix_rw-signed-v1.9b.zip which you can find in this post https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/themes/stock-motorola-camera-t3596659
I couldn't find out why the script in that zip causes apps to uninstall randomly when you reboot the device, but I corrected using this fix for the external-sd write for the camera: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/fix-motorala-camera-write-to-externalsd-t3498573 instead of that.
Also you have to use the regular moto camera ported which you can find on this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/themes/stock-camera-t3540473 but you have to manually delete the com.motorola.*** .jar files on /system/framework/
I made a zip that makes the instalation of the camera and the deletion of the com.motorola.*** .jar files automatically but undfortunately I can't post links that are outside the XDA forums yet. With that you'll only have to apply the fix for the external-sd manually
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Thank you my friend for the detailed explanation. Will try to do this tomorrow.
Ayan Uchiha Choudhury said:
Thank you my friend for the detailed explanation. Will try to do this tomorrow.
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Your'e welcome!
Also you better try this on a clean install
Hello, I have this strange problem I am using RRN 5.8.5 version on my oneplus 3. And my apps randomly gets deleted from the phone. At random times I try to look for the app and its gone. Like youtube gmaps even google keyboard some times gets deleted??? Can some one explain me whats going on ? One of my theories is that when the app ties updating it gets deleted and does not reinstall.
kur0g4ne said:
This is not a ROM related problem, the same happened to me when I used the ExtSD_Fix_rw-signed-v1.9b.zip which you can find in this post https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/themes/stock-motorola-camera-t3596659
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I have the same issue on LineageOs 14.1 on my moto G4 plus.
So according to your post because I used the moto camera zip file and the sdcard fix, I've formatted system, dalvik cache and cache, reinstalled lineageos, addonsu and Gapps but I still have applications that disapear (F-Droid for example). Note: I haven't reinstalled any moto camera app.
So if you have an idea ?
Sagittarius_ said:
I have the same issue on LineageOs 14.1 on my moto G4 plus.
So according to your post because I used the moto camera zip file and the sdcard fix, I've formatted system, dalvik cache and cache, reinstalled lineageos, addonsu and Gapps but I still have applications that disapear (F-Droid for example). Note: I haven't reinstalled any moto camera app.
So if you have an idea ?
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That's because the sdcard fix is what triggers apps to disapear, try a fresh install (formatting data also) and do not use the fix but DO reinstall moto camera, nothing changed for you because your permissions are not defined in the system partition.
I guarantee nothing but try this moto camera, it worked for me because I made it for me, but it implements the latest apk of the moto camera that is available and gets the writing permissions for the sd and does not make apps to dissapear.
I bought a UHS sd to use it as internal storage and do not worry for external permissions ever again but I remember i got the permissions when the sd was FAT32 formatted, and it happened without doing anything but flashing it.
I can't post links to external sources in XDA so here's the key for download it from MEGA just paste it to the end of mega .co .nz /
Code:
#!i0hU3STS!Aj5U_7fitVtfYIxENFEq7LV278myvA3yLKLCoB3Oajg
Thank you
kur0g4ne said:
That's because the sdcard fix is what triggers apps to disapear, try a fresh install (formatting data also) and do not use the fix but DO reinstall moto camera, nothing changed for you because your permissions are not defined in the system partition.
I guarantee nothing but try this moto camera, it worked for me because I made it for me, but it implements the latest apk of the moto camera that is available and gets the writing permissions for the sd and does not make apps to dissapear.
I bought a UHS sd to use it as internal storage and do not worry for external permissions ever again but I remember i got the permissions when the sd was FAT32 formatted, and it happened without doing anything but flashing it.
I can't post links to external sources in XDA so here's the key for download it from MEGA just paste it to the end of mega .co .nz /
Code:
#!i0hU3STS!Aj5U_7fitVtfYIxENFEq7LV278myvA3yLKLCoB3Oajg
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Thank you and forgive me for not answering you until this day. I'm gonna try.
Nice !
After lot of install, reinstall roms, i was crasy about apps randomly deleted or fc.
You find the cause ! great and very usefull.
thanks a lot !

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