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So I'm waiting for my hdmi cable to come from monoprice, and I'm getting kind of anxious. I was just curious if anybody converted 720p videos and played them on a large hdtv, and how it worked out. Was there smooth playback, was there an audio delay, is the quality what you expected? Also, how are games displayed? I saw a video of someone playing angry birds on the Evo but the frame rate was pretty bad.
I got my HDMI cable yesterday. I haven't tried converting any videos and playing them on my 46 inch HD TV, but I did stream a TWiT TV video on the Xoom and mirrored it on the TV. It looked really good. The sound synced up fine, but it carries the audio on the HDMI so I had to turn up the volume on my TV to hear it. I think I'll either have to route the audio out on my TV to my stereo or I'll have to send the headphone jack of the Xoom to my stereo.
Since the Xoom screen has a vertical resolution of 800 pixels and the HDMI out is running at 720, some of the top and bottom of the screen gets cut off. If you are playing a 720 video that shouldn't be an issue though.
I'll try playing Angry Birds on it and see how the frame rate looks. I didn't notice any degredation in the frame rate though while I was playing around with it yesterday.
After playing with it for an hour or so I was pretty happy with the way it looked. I'm waiting for Flash so I can see how Netflix mirrored to my TV looks. Now you've got me wondering though. I'm going to RIP a DVD and see how it looks mirrored to my TV from the Xoom.
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I got my HDMI cable yesterday. I haven't tried converting any videos and playing them on my 46 inch HD TV, but I did stream a TWiT TV video on the Xoom and mirrored it on the TV. It looked really good. The sound synced up fine, but it carries the audio on the HDMI so I had to turn up the volume on my TV to hear it. I think I'll either have to route the audio out on my TV to my stereo or I'll have to send the headphone jack of the Xoom to my stereo.
Since the Xoom screen has a vertical resolution of 800 pixels and the HDMI out is running at 720, some of the top and bottom of the screen gets cut off. If you are playing a 720 video that shouldn't be an issue though.
I'll try playing Angry Birds on it and see how the frame rate looks. I didn't notice any degredation in the frame rate though while I was playing around with it yesterday.
After playing with it for an hour or so I was pretty happy with the way it looked. I'm waiting for Flash so I can see how Netflix mirrored to my TV looks. Now you've got me wondering though. I'm going to RIP a DVD and see how it looks mirrored to my TV from the Xoom.
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Netflix doesn't use flash though so it won't do you any good unless you're using an app like Playon.
I used it last night. (no 720p source)
Mainly on the Youtube app and got some issues.
Now the cable I got was 15' from amazon, but who knows how good it is.
I'm connecting it to a 27" PC monitor that has been wonky with my cable box (I think its the cable box's issue)
But that said, it restarted my Xoom 3 times. Videos would play fine and then freeze, with the tap to restart message. Audio would be out of sync for awhile, and then catch up, or freeze. Im thinking it might be the app though, I don't have any other media on it to play though. When it was working, the quality was great (other than the HQ youtube) menus looked sharp, sound was perfect.
Ill try and move some 720p Community episodes over tonight and see how they look.
+1 for community.
Hopefully it is just the youtube app, it seems a lot of people either hit or miss with that. I don't know, since day one, I have had what I would consider a relatively low amount of force closes (maybe 1-2 per day) with random stuff here or there, but some people talk about it like they can't use it at all. The 1-2 is with several hours of various usage per day, and the force close is usually when trying to open an app, not even when I'm doing anything important. I never had any wiggling on the upper half of the Palm Pre from a release day launch, never had any issues with the Evo Maybe I'm just lucky.
I bet my Xoom explodes tonight.
converting a 720p movie on my xoom tonight and trying it out..
also youtube has massive problems to begin with soo, naturally the mirroring was horrible
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So I'm waiting for my hdmi cable to come from monoprice, and I'm getting kind of anxious. I was just curious if anybody converted 720p videos and played them on a large hdtv, and how it worked out. Was there smooth playback, was there an audio delay, is the quality what you expected? Also, how are games displayed? I saw a video of someone playing angry birds on the Evo but the frame rate was pretty bad.
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I have Despicable Me, 720p version, on my Xoom, plugged it in with the Micro HDMI to My 50" Samsung - looked great I thought. Mouthing I slightly off, but thats how it is on my Xoom to so no changes with that. I also played Mario Cart with the N64 App and the Wiimote hooked up. Worked great!
I have Avatar, Startrek & Transformers 2 on my device played them all via HDMI using the Rock Player app and it was perfect sound was in sync and no lag.
Played Nes & Snes and both were great too. Web browsing was also very solid.
Only one issue and that was the YouTube app. Its an app issue not tablet or HDMI... that app is unstable at best usually anyways and Google needs to update it.
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Netflix doesn't use flash though so it won't do you any good unless you're using an app like Playon.
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Playon is the plan. Works great on my Samsung Epic that I rooted and installed Froyo on.
I made a video for this.
youtube.com/watch?v=2PzSJv3Pcsk
P.S. Oh and if you liked it please like, comment, and subscribe as I am in the process of trying to become a youtube partner so I can help off set the cost of buying all my gadgets, and hopefully eventually start giving the stuff I review away to my viewers. Thanks
Edit: Just wanted to say that the TV in the video is a 55" 1080p TV.
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I used it last night. (no 720p source)
Mainly on the Youtube app and got some issues.
Now the cable I got was 15' from amazon, but who knows how good it is.
I'm connecting it to a 27" PC monitor that has been wonky with my cable box (I think its the cable box's issue)
But that said, it restarted my Xoom 3 times. Videos would play fine and then freeze, with the tap to restart message. Audio would be out of sync for awhile, and then catch up, or freeze. Im thinking it might be the app though, I don't have any other media on it to play though. When it was working, the quality was great (other than the HQ youtube) menus looked sharp, sound was perfect.
Ill try and move some 720p Community episodes over tonight and see how they look.
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I have the same problem with the YouTube app when on wifi and no hdmi. I have not tried too much on wireless since I don't want to burn through my cap but the few I tried worked better. Regardless I am inclined to say it is the app and not the HDMI out.
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Screw you tube for now it's loaded with glitches. I just uploaded a 720 p mad men episode flawless.. sound is a little crappy doubt but not unsynced
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I never owned a table before, have had multiple droid phones and latest is Galaxy Nexus.
I am a commuter where I am on the train 1.5 hours each to work. Currently I watch videos on my phone, it looks great on this phone (video quality and screen is superb ) but would be nice to have a bigger screen.
How is the battery life? Will I be able to watch say 4 hours of videos without having to charge it? Or will I need to make sure I bring my charger to work?
My biggest complaint about my phone is battery life is horrible, even with 4G turned off.
My other questions:
I have an issue playing mkv files on my galaxy nexus, I have tried using DICE player, and every once in a while, the video freezes, or it keeps repeating itself. I have no idea if it a software issue with DICE, a hardware issue, or something else, happens on almost every MKV file at least once or twice while watching the movie. How does the Nexus 7 playback mkv files? Any issues?
Is there any place I can see a Nexus 7 in person to see what it like? I hate to just buy it blindly online.
it should last 4 hrs of video
i have gnex as well, with dice player, no issue, it is stock unrooted tho, maybe other video player causes that mkv problem?
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Regarding battery life, Google advertises something like 10 hours of video playback, and I'm inclined to believe them. Regarding mkv playback, I'm assuming that they're h.264 encodes? When playing them on your Galaxy Nexus, does Dice Player show a green [hw] in the upper left when you play it? It means that playback is being hardware accelerated, which greatly improves performance and efficiency. Every video that I've tried with the Nexus 7 has been hardware accelerated so far with Dice Player.
I use VPlayer on both my G.Nex & N7. Works with all files, no problems.
You can play with a N7 at Staples or Office Max or Office Depot.
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I never owned a table before, have had multiple droid phones and latest is Galaxy Nexus.
I am a commuter where I am on the train 1.5 hours each to work. Currently I watch videos on my phone, it looks great on this phone (video quality and screen is superb ) but would be nice to have a bigger screen.
How is the battery life? Will I be able to watch say 4 hours of videos without having to charge it? Or will I need to make sure I bring my charger to work?
My biggest complaint about my phone is battery life is horrible, even with 4G turned off.
My other questions:
I have an issue playing mkv files on my galaxy nexus, I have tried using DICE player, and every once in a while, the video freezes, or it keeps repeating itself. I have no idea if it a software issue with DICE, a hardware issue, or something else, happens on almost every MKV file at least once or twice while watching the movie. How does the Nexus 7 playback mkv files? Any issues?
Is there any place I can see a Nexus 7 in person to see what it like? I hate to just buy it blindly online.
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Dice player perfectly plays 720p H264 .mkv files. I haven't tried 1080p, but I wouldn't be surprised if 1080p worked fine too [though you won't be gaining much, because the screen is only 720p].
Mx Player, my player of choice, however, often doesn't play the MKV files right [video plays fast, and then slow, and the cycle repeats.]
As far as battery life, I haven't really tested my battery. I always use my N7 on the charger.
thanks everyone for suggestions, I never heard of Vplayer will have to check it out.
So far DICE was the only one that I was able to find that would even play them/
What mostly happens, is I will be halfway through and then the screen would pause, I would unpause, and then it would start playing the same frames over and over again..only way to fix it, was to kill DICE, go into settings, apps, and clear all data and cache. But then when i start it over again have to find where I was watching.
Last night I finally upgraded from 4.0.3 to 4.1.1 and tried watching it today on the way in, I did notice it was using SW in the upper left hand and the lock was unlocked.
Only thing that happened today was while playing about maybe 30 minutes in, screen went total black, and then brought me back to the Home screen, from there I had to go into settings and clear data for DICE, or everytime I tried to it start it automatically closed it.
I think I will be buying Nexus 7 this week, any recommendations best play to purchase that has a good exchange policy in case I run into hardware issues like I keep reading about the screen popping off or something like that?
Hello all
I searched the internet as well as the forums and could not find an answer.
I might be picking up a 32gb nexus 7 for xmas tomorrow.
The title says it all.
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Hello all
I searched the internet as well as the forums and could not find an answer.
I might be picking up a 32gb nexus 7 for xmas tomorrow.
The title says it all.
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I bought this tablet for two things.
I cannot save money.
My girlfriend moved four states away (NY to VA) and I wanted something to do while on the train for 7 hours. I did nothing on it for 14 hours total but watch movies (OTG cable) and play solitaire. It does both awesome!
Screen is great, headphone jack is nice. If the 10" was cheap I would buy one too!
Battery life while watching movies isn't stellar, however nothing is
Best small portable movie player I know of.
Use headphones in a noisy environment - helps the sound a lot.
I am fond of MxPlayer from the app store - plays .avi movies (ripped DVD format) without converting.
I also happen to think it's perfect for watching movies - having used both a phone and Xoom for comparison. I think the 7" form factor is perfect for tablets since you can comfortably hold the thing in one hand.
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Works great for movies, when rooted you can use an OTA cable and stickmount and play off external storage. However, I think external storage taxes the battery a bit more than on-board storage.
Root, stickmount, MXPlayer, VLC, and you're set.
Use dice player. Or mobo player best two video apps on android. On my 16gb ver without ocing I can play 720p h264 flac or aac audio with subs without any issues what so ever with dice player. As 720p h264 with flac or aac is really taxing and you need a high end device and the nexus7 fitted that to the T. smooth frame rate none or extremely little frame skip is not really noticeable at all unless you are looking for it and even if you are its hard to notice.
Best experience with video watching to date for me with android devices. Droid x2 was OK in the video department cause it had the tegra 2 and the dinc2 is just pathetic with its adreno 205. But this nexus7 plays videos much better them my own laptop. And my laptop is not really a pushover either. 380 dedicated vram, 4gb of ram, 1 tb 5400rpm HDD, dual core 1.9ghz turion (sp?). And this thing does the job either the same or little bit better or little bit worse depending on the video file. So far I have 1 video that won't play. But I think it was encoded improperly because only my PC with cccp with mpc can play it with no problems.
But highly recommended. And especially with dice and mobo player it should be hard to find and issues.
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I have to add - ES Browser is great for movies on your lan. I have a 500gb drive on my router (always on) with all my movies.
ES Browser sees this storage, and clicking on a movie launches MX Player. All .avi movies. Perfect playback.
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It's perfect to watch movies. The colors may not be perfect but the image is pretty sharp. The only disadvantage is that the screen is not very visible outside with sun directly at it. But this is with pretty much everything. It's also very portable and comfy to watch a movie. Specially if you have to hold it in your hand
Dmans said:
Hello all
I searched the internet as well as the forums and could not find an answer.
I might be picking up a 32gb nexus 7 for xmas tomorrow.
The title says it all.
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This is the seventh reply to verify the Nexus 7 is great for watching movies. I use the Dice player for h264 720p HD movies. After the 32GB is full, the Nexus Media Importer App and an OTG cable lets you stream movies from a USB flash drive. No rooting required.
Thanks all I will be picking up a nexus 7 from PC world on Tuesday hopefully.
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Get one from John Lewis as they give a 2 year guarantee!
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No john lewis in Ireland so........
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nexus 7 is really nice for movie watching. You see, other tablets is much heavier and this one lies in my hand really good. Also image is pretty nice.
rmm200 said:
I have to add - ES Browser is great for movies on your lan. I have a 500gb drive on my router (always on) with all my movies.
ES Browser sees this storage, and clicking on a movie launches MX Player. All .avi movies. Perfect playback.
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500 gig....amateur.
I do the same with mine. Works great!
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Google Play videos do not play via HDMI cable to my TV. They play fine on the tablet screen, but not via HDMI. All other videos play fine via , e.g., YouTube, Netflix, Crackle, etc. Even my first tablet (Vizio) works fine via HDMI with Google Play videos. Anyone else having this issue? Yes, my TVs are all HDCP compliant.
Same Issue
I'm having the same issue and can not for the life of me find any information on it. It worked fine prior to 4.2.1 but now it just shows as loading regardless of the media being located on the device or coming from Google's servers.
First no Miracast and now this?
I guess I wont be updating to 4.2.1 just yet then as its working fine on my n10. Stock non rooted.
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Works fine on my end. Plays just fine. 4.2.1
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jimmyz4664 said:
Google Play videos do not play via HDMI cable to my TV. They play fine on the tablet screen, but not via HDMI. All other videos play fine via , e.g., YouTube, Netflix, Crackle, etc. Even my first tablet (Vizio) works fine via HDMI with Google Play videos. Anyone else having this issue? Yes, my TVs are all HDCP compliant.
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This has been a issue with every tablet I've had. I've been told that they don't play out of the HDMI out for security and licensing reasons.
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This has been a issue with every tablet I've had. I've been told that they don't play out of the HDMI out for security and licensing reasons.
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Then how is it that I can play my Google Play movies. Even the 2min previews on movies works just fine through HDMI to my Phillips 50inch LCD tv
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Does the free ice age movie count? That's what I can play on my Samsung TV.
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Previews for Google Play videos play fine via HDMI on my Nexus 10, but not the actual purchased or rented videos. Have gotten no answers from Google support.
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Have you tried playing previews from the play store bazbazbaz? Through the HDMI out that is
Both of the free movies I've had (Transformers: DOTM and Ice Age) play fine via HDMI. I've not purchased or rented any other content so I can't comment further than that.
I'm on rooted 4.2.1, but it works fine unrooted too.
I've noticed though that the previews play as a mirrored screen, whereas the actual movies play as an additional external display with the tablet display having the video controls on.
I'm in the UK if it helps at all; not sure if its worth tracking to see if it's an issue only affecting certain countries?
Google Play Movies will only stream through HDMI if your display support HDCP over HDMI...
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Google Play Movies will only stream through HDMI if your display support HDCP over HDMI...
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I tested last night and have the same issue, I can mirror just fine, but when I get the "HDMI Screen" page for Google Play videos it just stays there with the spinner and won't play.
Can those of you who have this working chime in on this one; Do you guys have your bootoaders "locked"?
The only difference I can see is that I'm rooted (others say it works for them rooted), modified kernel (anyone else?) and my bootloader is still unlocked.
I'll make a Nandroid backup tonight and relock to see if that has any effect.
My television (Samsung 46" LED) is most certainly HDCP compliant. I do have the tablet connected to the ARC (Audio Return Channel) which could potentially be an issue, but I'll swap that later too, just to make sure.
Darn
anyone able to shed any light on this? I have relocked and temp unroot but nothing, it just completely refuses to play while HDMI is connected, it just still is at a page that says "HDMI Screen" with a spinner and a picture of a TV and that is it.
Just to make it worse, the latest update to YouTube won't let you full screen a video while HDMI is connected. You have to full screen it then plug HDMI in to get full screen.
I am 100% stock and unable to play anything out of the play store on my n10, however I still have my transformer infinity around and that is able to so I don't think it's a play store issue...
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Google Play TV won't work on hdmi
bazbazbaz said:
I'm having the same issue and can not for the life of me find any information on it. It worked fine prior to 4.2.1 but now it just shows as loading regardless of the media being located on the device or coming from Google's servers.
First no Miracast and now this?
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I purchased an episode of a TV show from the Playstore. It won't play on my TV either. Everything played fine on my old Acer Iconia. Now I purchase an actual Google device and it doesn't work?
It plays on my tablet, but the instant I plug the hdmi cable into the tablet it goes to some "hdmi" screen and won't play. Has anyone found a fix for this? Google support was useless. Their only suggestion was to download instead of stream. Neither works. Very disappointing because my "old eyes" enjoy things much better on my 46" TV as opposed to my tablet.
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I purchased an episode of a TV show from the Playstore. It won't play on my TV either. Everything played fine on my old Acer Iconia. Now I purchase an actual Google device and it doesn't work?
It plays on my tablet, but the instant I plug the hdmi cable into the tablet it goes to some "hdmi" screen and won't play. Has anyone found a fix for this? Google support was useless. Their only suggestion was to download instead of stream. Neither works. Very disappointing because my "old eyes" enjoy things much better on my 46" TV as opposed to my tablet.
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Agreed, still no fix found here, but I absolutely refuse to buy or rent anything until I know I can play it on my 46" TV. It's just obsurd.
I'll keep my fingers crossed for a fixed in the next Android release, otherwise I'll just forget Google Play movies exists entirely.
I just wish I knew of a player that would full screen my own content on the TV then it wouldn't be an issue.
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Hi all, I've just bought a 32gb N10 after reading all about it here. It came with 4.2.2, the first thing I did was update it to 4.4.2.
Netflix, iPlayer and YouTube/vimeo all have choppy playback, especially noticeable when the camera pans around a scene. I've read that 4.4 can cause video issues, and never tried 4.2.2 or 4.3.
Anyone experiencing the same thing? Any workarounds? I've already tried clearing app cache and disk cache (via recovery)
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Hi all, I've just bought a 32gb N10 after reading all about it here. It came with 4.2.2, the first thing I did was update it to 4.4.2.
Netflix, iPlayer and YouTube/vimeo all have choppy playback, especially noticeable when the camera pans around a scene. I've read that 4.4 can cause video issues, and never tried 4.2.2 or 4.3.
Anyone experiencing the same thing? Any workarounds? I've already tried clearing app cache and disk cache (via recovery)
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I watch video from the sources you mention except iPlayer and resolved any playback shutter I've experienced. I'm using rooted stock 4.4.2 and XPosed framework modules. For me the culprit turned out to be an often running background and app "FolderSync". Once I reduced the frequency of the sync the stuttering disappeared.
Here are some suggestions on figuring out the issues.
- at least temporarily disable background activity (eg. Onandroid backups definitely causes video stutter)
- first eliminate the network by copying a HD quality video onto the N10 and play it back from internal storage. If it shutters then get a player that supports ARM7 hardware decoding (eg. MX Player)
- if the test above proves that your N10 can handle the videos then you will need to focus on weak links in your network connection
For high bit rate videos (eg. 1080p my files), Wifi can be overwhelmed so I often use a USB Ethernet adapter.
With MX Player and it's ARM7 add-on I can play any video in my collection. With the the Ethernet adapter I can play Netflix's SuperHD quality while with WiFi lower quality steaming do occur. The. Nexus 10 is a very capable video player.
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I watch video from the sources you mention except iPlayer and resolved any playback shutter I've experienced. I'm using rooted stock 4.4.2 and XPosed framework modules. For me the culprit turned out to be an often running background and app "FolderSync". Once I reduced the frequency of the sync the stuttering disappeared.
Here are some suggestions on figuring out the issues.
- at least temporarily disable background activity (eg. Onandroid backups definitely causes video stutter)
- first eliminate the network by copying a HD quality video onto the N10 and play it back from internal storage. If it shutters then get a player that supports ARM7 hardware decoding (eg. MX Player)
- if the test above proves that your N10 can handle the videos then you will need to focus on weak links in your network connection
For high bit rate videos (eg. 1080p my files), Wifi can be overwhelmed so I often use a USB Ethernet adapter.
With MX Player and it's ARM7 add-on I can play any video in my collection. With the the Ethernet adapter I can play Netflix's SuperHD quality while with WiFi lower quality steaming do occur. The. Nexus 10 is a very capable video player.
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Thanks for your input. I tried MX player with ARM HW decoder and it works! But for netflix etc it's all software. Did it used to be smooth on 4.3?
I disabled backups in the settings, does rooting let you disable any other backup stuff?
Do a stock flash. Do not upgrade from an earlier version.
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sheyac said:
Thanks for your input. I tried MX player with ARM HW decoder and it works! But for netflix etc it's all software. Did it used to be smooth on 4.3?
I disabled backups in the settings, does rooting let you disable any other backup stuff?
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I didn't subscribe to Netflix until after I was using 4.4.2 and outside of occasional buffering I have not experienced video stuttering except for the background task issues I've described and fixed.
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sheyac said:
Thanks for your input. I tried MX player with ARM HW decoder and it works! But for netflix etc it's all software. Did it used to be smooth on 4.3?
I disabled backups in the settings, does rooting let you disable any other backup stuff?
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Hi,
I only had a problem with playing videos when my memory was cluttered like other people already stated. Make sure there's no apps running in background! I can't tell about Netflix though, I don't use it hehe, but today my memory was being used a lot by background apps and when I tried to watch a video in MX it skipped many frames and lagged a lot, after killing all background apps the video ran without issues .
~Lord
So I used wugfresh to flash the factory image 4.4.2 and iPlayer seems better but Netflix still seems a bit choppy (especially when it's streaming in super HD).
I'm disappointed as I mainly bought this to watch Netflix and iPlayer. Are there any kernels or ROMs that provide a better video experience? Will flash 4.3 tomorrow and see how that performs.
When you flash stock and then first setup make sure you do NOT tick to restore from backup. It restores slowness.
I use my N10 for iPlayer every day and works fine but I prefer to use get-iPlayer on a Linux or Windows device to download and then watch on Android it is more consistent experience plus you get HD and I play using MX player just fine.
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I have installed 4.3 and netflix and iPlayer are now smoother (still a bit choppy but much better). I wonder if this is to do with the RAM allocation between 4.3 and 4.4. Hope 4.5 is better at videos than 4.3 and would be nice to get ART on it too.
sheyac said:
I have installed 4.3 and netflix and iPlayer are now smoother (still a bit choppy but much better). I wonder if this is to do with the RAM allocation between 4.3 and 4.4. Hope 4.5 is better at videos than 4.3 and would be nice to get ART on it too.
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The stuttering can vary by the service provider. Be careful on forming conclusions when you're dealing with remote Internet-based services. I find services like Hulu and iplayer (I don't use NetFlix) varies by the day. If were dumb enough to think that was due to the Android version I could easily make false conclusions. I have a Nexus 10, 7, 4 and 3 PCs and from that try to eliminate the variable service aspect from the Android version aspect.
Do look into get_iplayer, it is very good and in many ways superior to the iplayer App. What you can then do is accumulate media and then use an OTG USB storage device which then makes your need for large Android devices or ones with SD slots much less important.
http://www.infradead.org/get_iplayer/html/get_iplayer.html
My OTG storage which is tiny and I can plug it into the get_iplayer download server if I want a mass transfer faster than Wifi
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GMG2GEO/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Yes of course I have made sure that remote connections aren't the reason for choppyness. I compared using the same 50 Mbps connection using my laptop (1080p), an iPad 4, my nexus 10 and my Galaxy S4, at the same time of day sequentially. The nexus came out the choppiest (dropped frames) by far.Even on media downloaded then played back in the gallery app.
It just seems strange that google would release a (flagship) device with an inability to smoothly play 1080p video out of the box.
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Yes of course I have made sure that remote connections aren't the reason for choppyness. I compared using the same 50 Mbps connection using my laptop (1080p), an iPad 4, my nexus 10 and my Galaxy S4, at the same time of day sequentially. The nexus came out the choppiest (dropped frames) by far.Even on media downloaded then played back in the gallery app.
It just seems strange that google would release a (flagship) device with an inability to smoothly play 1080p video out of the box.
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I don't have any 1080p media mine are 720p. Mine play fine. get_iplayer HD produces 1280x720 H264 25fps 2.3Mbit 1GB/hour files.
Did you literally take stock (without restoring from backup) install MX Player enable it to h/w+ and get choppiness?
I find the video performance of my N10 stunning, it is the fastest and clearest of all my devices. I use it for Hulu+ often at its streamed HD when offered, and usually off local media or streaming off NAS. To make my N10 choppy video I have to be doing typically 2 other things in the background at the same time, I think due to 1GB memory not really being enough.
There are N10 weaknesses, on mine if I load too many apps particularly more than a few Chrome tabs, it does a reboot, so I tend to use mine for big-screen media watching and I got a N7 and N4 alongside which allows more multitasking by multi devices, then my N10 is very stable and performing. For this reason I never would pay $500 for a N10 but got mine for $278 which I think given its stability and performance issues is fairer priced. My N4 which has 24% number of pixels of N10 and double the memory is far far more stable but not really a sit back and enjoy media device.
With MX player and HW decoding it was smooth - however I primarily got my N10 to stream Netflix and iPlayer, neither of which can you enable HW decoding. I will look into get_iplayer but my laptop is Windows for a start so it's a pain in the backside to install Ubuntu etc to download. It just seems like it's a workaround for a deficiency that shouldn't have existed in the first place!
Yesterday I watched a whole movie in Super HD on the N10 from Netflix on 4.3 and it was a lot lot smoother than 4.4.2. I'm not sure why it would be so different, as the OS was generally snappier in 4.4. The picture quality was great, albeit the colours were a bit washed out but i can live with that!
sheyac said:
... however I primarily got my N10 to stream Netflix and iPlayer, neither of which can you enable HW decoding....
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I use a playstore YouTube alternative app called Viral and it has a HW acceleration setting. I'm not sure if it would actually make a difference for you but Viral could always be uninstalled.
See: Settings->Player controls->Hardware acceleration->allow get for video player. It's a check box.
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I will look into get_iplayer but my laptop is Windows for a start so it's a pain in the backside to install Ubuntu etc to download.
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RTFM http://www.infradead.org/get_iplayer/html/get_iplayer.html
Therefore, we have created a Windows installer for get_iplayer which will attempt to download and install the various requirements. This can be obtained from:
http://www.infradead.org/get_iplayer_win/get_iplayer_setup_latest.exe
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If I'm traveling very light but I need a Windoze machine I have an ancient Netbook which sucks are performance but it runs the get_iplayer and I USB cable to copy over. If I'm traveling light and don't need a Windoze machine I'll have accumulated mp4 to the limit of the internal N10 storage then spill over into the ridiculously cheap OTG USB storage.
Downloading ahead and then playing local content removes a host of issues. It isn't a workaround but an alternative with advantages. Issues with streaming are that the BBC servers / bandwidth can be choppy themselves sometimes plus the Nexus 10 screen is much better than the highest definition content that the App delivers, if you download it goes up in quality (if you set modes=best) and really makes the N10 better to view. So it's relevant to this thread.
What I do is as get_iplayer exists is I accumulate the mp4 and when online with good Wifi 'net access exhaust all the Hulu etc online-only content and then move to watch the BBC stuff. Plenty of situations like hotels crap Wifi service come to mind.