Anyone know why Google removed Wallet for the (2nd Gen) Nexus 7? It existed on all other Nexus devices since the Galaxy Nexus. Even my Nexus 10 has it...
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Anyone know why Google removed Wallet for the (2nd Gen) Nexus 7? It existed on all other Nexus devices since the Galaxy Nexus. Even my Nexus 10 has it...
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It's not compatible with 4.3 yet. It happens all the time when new builds come out. It'll be back.
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It's not compatible with 4.3 yet. It happens all the time when new builds come out. It'll be back.
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It seems to work on my First Gen Nexus 7 (running 4.3). I used it this morning to buy a coffee.
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It seems to work on my First Gen Nexus 7 (running 4.3). I used it this morning to buy a coffee.
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It's probably not tested yet
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It's probably not tested yet
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PEOPLE ! Remember, this things not even officially launched by Google yet!!!
kpa2727 said:
PEOPLE ! Remember, this things not even officially launched by Google yet!!!
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Which is why I said just wait it'll be back.
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Just side load it. Its how I get it to work half the time anyway.
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Just side load it. Its how I get it to work half the time anyway.
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Didn't work for me
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Well... its official... The 2nd Generation Nexus 7 DOES NOT have a Secure Element so Google Wallet will NEVER work on it.
I do understand that Wallet was not the most widely used tool but for those who have become reliant on Wallet, this news sucks.
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Wallet is NOT compatible with and NOT GOING TO BE COMPATIBLE with the Nexus 7 2013 because it is lacking some secure element.
Director of Product Management for Google Wallet Peter Hazlehurst confirmed it to Android Police. http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...ible-with-the-2013-nexus-7/#comment-978606008
LordLugard said:
Wallet is NOT compatible with and NOT GOING TO BE COMPATIBLE with the Nexus 7 2013 because it is lacking some secure element.
Director of Product Management for Google Wallet Peter Hazlehurst confirmed it to Android Police. http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...ible-with-the-2013-nexus-7/#comment-978606008
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yet it works with the sprint htc one. so this is a bit fishy since other than the antennas (gsm, cdma) i am pretty sure all htc one are the same hardware across the board
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yet it works with the sprint htc one. so this is a bit fishy since other than the antennas (gsm, cdma) i am pretty sure all htc one are the same hardware across the board
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Well the post specifically stated the Google Edition of the HTC One, which that plus the capability of LTE for the new N7 leads me to believe this was not Google's choice. This sounds like a slam to the face from the US carriers to force ISIS in order to use the devices on their networks. Why else would this feature not exist in a newly capable LTE device when it was present in the previous generation device?
Man I hate the US cellular companies. Forcing their agendas and profits on device manufacturers.
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Well the post specifically stated the Google Edition of the HTC One, which that plus the capability of LTE for the new N7 leads me to believe this was not Google's choice. This sounds like a slam to the face from the US carriers to force ISIS in order to use the devices on their networks. Why else would this feature not exist in a newly capable LTE device when it was present in the previous generation device?
Man I hate the US cellular companies. Forcing their agendas and profits on device manufacturers.
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see i would go with that thought but for all of us with the wifi model that would mean we are out of luck completly, not having an option for a sim at all.....so idk
NyPlaya513 said:
yet it works with the sprint htc one. so this is a bit fishy since other than the antennas (gsm, cdma) i am pretty sure all htc one are the same hardware across the board
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Nothing fishy about anything. Whether you're "pretty sure" about anything is not the point. I'd rather take the word of the Director of Product Management. And besides the reason being given is that the Nexus 7 2013 is missing a secure element, which might have been omitted due to a myriad of reasons (cost, maybe?). We wait and see if more info develops.
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Dupe.
I remember reading recently about a compromise of the secure element chip used in the vast majority of commercial electronics and how this was bad because there was essentially only one vendor. I'll see if I can find the link when I get home.
Maybe this had something to do with the decision? Or maybe someone decided in their infinite wisdom that a 7" device is simply awkward to use to pay?
I use wallet on my N4 all the time but only once on my N7 (2012)...
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Isis SIM
So the N7v2 has NFC but no secure element. According to the press information for ISIS, the ISIS carrier SIMs include a secure element. So would it be possible to use ISIS on a N7v2?
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So the N7v2 has NFC but no secure element. According to the press information for ISIS, the ISIS carrier SIMs include a secure element. So would it be possible to use ISIS on a N7v2?
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you can install it, and if you have the option to change tap and pay settings, that means it will work. No option, then no, its not available.
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Okay so I've tried searching all over the place for this but can't find anyone with the same trouble I'm having.
The problem is my nexus 7 has basically everything missing, every google app isn't there, play store, gmail, you tube etc. all missing.
There was no sign up process when i booted up, and it's running ics version 4.0.3. Instead of jelly bean.
The only thing i can do is browse Web pages.
There also a tab in settings called developer options.
Any ideas? I'm wondering if i got a developer version by mistake?
i'm basically missing everything and can't do much at all with it.
Thanks, Matt
Strange maybe they sent you a test device on accident. I'd just flash the stock software that Google released.
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Mattuhh said:
Okay so I've tried searching all over the place for this but can't find anyone with the same trouble I'm having.
The problem is my nexus 7 has basically everything missing, every google app isn't there, play store, gmail, you tube etc. all missing.
There was no sign up process when i booted up, and it's running ics version 4.0.3. Instead of jelly bean.
The only thing i can do is browse Web pages.
There also a tab in settings called developer options.
Any ideas? I'm wondering if i got a developer version by mistake?
i'm basically missing everything and can't do much at all with it.
Thanks, Matt
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They might have shipped a pre-production model by mistake, or something similar.
If you're used to rooting Android, you can grab the stock images here: http://goo.gl/p0W2s. Otherwise, just bring it to wherever you bought it and get a replacement.
There are factory images for the device available from Google that can return you to a shipping Jelly Bean build. See here:
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
It's a fairly simple process, but it does require some basic setup on your desktop computer. You'll need the ability to use fastboot. If you're not up for that the easiest thing to do would be to just exchange the unit.
Edit - identical advice as above. Great minds think alike
Thanks for the replies, I'll have to try and flash the firmware when I get home tomorrow.
I'll let you know if I bork it up
Wonder if there's any hardware difference between this and the retail versions, could be worth something.
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Wonder if there's any hardware difference between this and the retail versions, could be worth something.
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That would be nice if it was but I'm guessing hardware wise is probably identical, not sure how I'd check to be honest
We'll I'm having no luck fixing this little problem at the moment.
I've tried using the Nexus Root Toolkit v1.5 but due to having ics I can't seem to get it to work, I am close to giving up trying haha.
here's a few screen captures, anyone's devices have anything different?
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Mattuhh said:
We'll I'm having no luck fixing this little problem at the moment.
I've tried using the Nexus Root Toolkit v1.5 but due to having ics I can't seem to get it to work, I am close to giving up trying haha.
here's a few screen captures, anyone's devices have anything different?
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You don't need root, you just need to use fastboot. Are you on Windows, Mac, Linux?
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You don't need root, you just need to use fastboot. Are you on Windows, Mac, Linux?
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that's the bit I'm having trouble with, Im on windows 7 64bit
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that's the bit I'm having trouble with, Im on windows 7 64bit
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Really just return it. That's the strangest screw-up I've seen in a while. Unless time is a factor, exchange it. There may be issues with the hardware in a test device, so I would just play it safe (even though fastboot is super easy and fast). And, I'm guessing this is your first Android device, so please don't let this ruin your experience.
ICS runs in full tablet mode on the nexus 7? And somehow doesn't cut off words in the settings menu like the tablet mode hacks for JB?
That's either interesting or fishy
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dump the rom on there and post it im interested in giving it a once over, here is a how to http://androidforums.com/a75-all-th...t-way-rom-dump-rom-dump-method-any-phone.html
Are all Nexus 7s model number "me370t"? If not, then you have the MeMO 370T firmware, which was the base for Nexus 7.
Sell it and buy a new one lol
The developer options is nothing special... Thats been there since ICS. It's supposed to be there.
But I've seen a few other reports around here that also have that Asus firmware loaded on them. Not sure if they were able to get the stock loaded onto it, or if they swapped out for another one.
Let me guess, you had a pretty tree set as your background image on first boot up?
This kinda sucks for you but I think its really cool at the same time haha. Its cool how it says me370t for the model since the n7 is basically the same device minus a stylus built in
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before you take that back let the devs get a dump of that image it could potentially have something interesting in the software of firmware.
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Really just return it. That's the strangest screw-up I've seen in a while. Unless time is a factor, exchange it. There may be issues with the hardware in a test device, so I would just play it safe (even though fastboot is super easy and fast). And, I'm guessing this is your first Android device, so please don't let this ruin your experience.
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Yeah I am thinking that I'm going to have too, and it's my third Android device, I've got an SGS that's rooted with a custom rom, a Galaxy Note and now this tablet. I've never had problems with messing with software on a device before, but for some reason fastboot just wont play ball on this device
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ICS runs in full tablet mode on the nexus 7? And somehow doesn't cut off words in the settings menu like the tablet mode hacks for JB?
That's either interesting or fishy
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I don't know what you're talking about as this is the first tablet I've ever owned but I think fishy or interesting isn't the word I would use, annoying as hell more like lol
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dump the rom on there and post it im interested in giving it a once over, here is a how to http://androidforums.com/a75-all-th...t-way-rom-dump-rom-dump-method-any-phone.html
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Haha okay I will do my best, but I'm not particularly good at Android tinkering
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Are all Nexus 7s model number "me370t"? If not, then you have the MeMO 370T firmware, which was the base for Nexus 7.
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I haven't got a clue to be honest, I was assuming that was what they all were lol
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Sell it and buy a new one lol
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Probably going to have too >.<
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The developer options is nothing special... Thats been there since ICS. It's supposed to be there.
But I've seen a few other reports around here that also have that Asus firmware loaded on them. Not sure if they were able to get the stock loaded onto it, or if they swapped out for another one.
Let me guess, you had a pretty tree set as your background image on first boot up?
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you mean like this? lol
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This kinda sucks for you but I think its really cool at the same time haha. Its cool how it says me370t for the model since the n7 is basically the same device minus a stylus built in
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yeah it's just my luck to be honest lol
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before you take that back let the devs get a dump of that image it could potentially have something interesting in the software of firmware.
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Yeah I will give it a go one day this week, I've had enough of messing with it trying to make it work for now, it's doing my head in haha
I agree, you should (must) dump the ROM and put it up for devs to look at. It's a shame you had your nexus experience marred by thus, but our devs can surely find some interesting things in the ICS build(ironically, this us how the touchpad got android, someone got one that shipped with GB, and the community was lucky enough to get to him before he wiped it).
Oppo mobiles have finally launched the Oppo Find 5 in India. Hope we get some Indian support for the Oppo Find 5 here at XDA developers.
The Oppo Find 5 that is to be launched in India will have the same specifications as the one launched worldwide.
Opp Find 5 Price in India
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here is the link to buy ,I think they even provide cod as payment option
http://oppo.androidguruz.com/index.php?route=common/home
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here is the link to buy ,I think they even provide cod as payment option
http://oppo.androidguruz.com/index.php?route=common/home
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The site seems sketchy and doesn't even have a proper contact us link. However , if cash on delivery option is available, then it might be fine, I guess?
But the site seems to have simply copied lots of elements from oppostyle.com?
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The site seems sketchy and doesn't even have a proper contact us link. However , if cash on delivery option is available, then it might be fine, I guess?
But the site seems to have simply copied lots of elements from oppostyle.com?
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site seems like a quick setup to start sales,anyway if we buy using cod,we are safe.But service will be an issue,i think.
they have a facebook page too
http://www.facebook.com/Androidguruz
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site seems like a quick setup to start sales,anyway if we buy using cod,we are safe.But service will be an issue,i think.
they have a facebook page too
http://www.facebook.com/Androidguruz
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Yeah , I was just reading about the Androidguruz. Seems to be a startup which will offer retail and services for around 42 china brands, in which case, we can hopefully get some service as well. But too early to say. I would say there is definitely a risk. [regarding repairs]
http://www.gogi.in/androidguruz-exclusive-retailer.html
there are lots of adverse comments on their fb page
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there are lots of adverse comments on their fb page
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Related to their service? Wasn't able to find it. But, yeah the site design is crappy with no option to select the memory for the find 5 white version.
EDIT: So, apparently, they still have not started selling the phone. The white version not able to add to cart because memory option not available and for the midnight black version, it is saying currently not in stock. But, the shipping rate seems to be an amazing Rs 5, so seems really good overall, if it does turn out to have 3 months replacement warranty..
Anyway, lets update here, if any one of us finds anything new. I am very much interested in getting the phone, but may go for nexus 4 again if a 32gb version is announced.
I never thought this day would come where I would part so easily with my Nexus 4. Even with the announcement of the Galaxy S4 and the HTC One I didn’t care too much about those devices. I love pure Android and how clean it runs. But there was something about the Oppo Find 5 that attracted me so much. Maybe it’s the fact that Oppo is doing something different and really trying to make software for the consumers and not something gimmicky. I’ve never been a fan of Android skins like Sense, Motoblur and Touchwiz, but Oppo isn’t just another skin, It’s more like a custom ROM on steroids. The reason I say this is because as of now they are the only Android phone manufacturer that update their firmware twice a month with features requested by the users. Let’s face it, update’s matter. When you ask people why they buy a Nexus device one of the top 3 reasons is “It get’s updates”. Similar to how Cyanogenmod implements features, Oppo does the same and since it’s GPL Compliant, with its kernel source code released. This means developers from all over the world can work together and make the Find 5 even better. :good:
They are still building up their site.
Same replies you see from UMI X2 people.
Let's wait for a week or so
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haxor said:
I never thought this day would come where I would part so easily with my Nexus 4. Even with the announcement of the Galaxy S4 and the HTC One I didn’t care too much about those devices. I love pure Android and how clean it runs. But there was something about the Oppo Find 5 that attracted me so much. Maybe it’s the fact that Oppo is doing something different and really trying to make software for the consumers and not something gimmicky. I’ve never been a fan of Android skins like Sense, Motoblur and Touchwiz, but Oppo isn’t just another skin, It’s more like a custom ROM on steroids. The reason I say this is because as of now they are the only Android phone manufacturer that update their firmware twice a month with features requested by the users. Let’s face it, update’s matter. When you ask people why they buy a Nexus device one of the top 3 reasons is “It get’s updates”. Similar to how Cyanogenmod implements features, Oppo does the same and since it’s GPL Compliant, with its kernel source code released. This means developers from all over the world can work together and make the Find 5 even better. :good:
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Oh my god! You sound so much like Armando Ferreira
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By the way, does this phone come with a SD card slot?
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Oh my god! You sound so much like Armando Ferreira
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By the way, does this phone come with a SD card slot?
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Opps Same to same No Card Slot just like Nexus !
Is it available on the local market yet?
Take a look at this guys. Think it ain't coming officially after all.
http://igyaan.in/2013/05/47695/oppo-will-not-officially-launch-the-find-5-in-india/
If I buy from oppostyle.com, will I be able to claim warrant at least by sending it back to them??
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Take a look at this guys. Think it ain't coming officially after all.
http://igyaan.in/2013/05/47695/oppo-will-not-officially-launch-the-find-5-in-india/
If I buy from oppostyle.com, will I be able to claim warrant at least by sending it back to them??
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Oh well. Anyway got nexus 4 again, so won't be joining the oppo crowd.sounds too much of a risk to buy it without warranty when you have nexus 4 launching in India at a lower price than this.( yes screen is better, others however I don't think there is a huge difference)
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Anybody from India who has bought through oppostyle.com? If yes, how was your experience?
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I got the OPPO Find 5 from oppostyle in India. The experience overall with oppostyle was good.. I ordered on first of may and it reached me in 8 days with custom clearance taking 4 days.
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tantrik said:
I got the OPPO Find 5 from oppostyle in India. The experience overall with oppostyle was good.. I ordered on first of may and it reached me in 8 days with custom clearance taking 4 days.
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Did u pay any customs fee ?
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tantrik said:
I got the OPPO Find 5 from oppostyle in India. The experience overall with oppostyle was good.. I ordered on first of may and it reached me in 8 days with custom clearance taking 4 days.
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How much custom fee did you pay? What was the total amount that you paid?
Also anyone know about the warranty? How will we claim it?
I paid 1049/- in custom fees.
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I paid 1049/- in custom fees.
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What is the total amount that you paid? Did you ask them to write a lower price (for lower custom rate?)
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This just in: www(dot)androidpolice(dot)com/2013/09/18/motorola-releases-droid-maxx-verizon-only-and-moto-x-gsm-and-verizon-developer-editions-for-649-99/
Same goes for Moto X for GSM and Verizon versions as well.
Do the dev editions already have system write ability?
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From what I've read they have unlockable bootloaders....not too sure what the difference will be between the Dev edition and consumer edition..
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No Verizon bloatware for starters. I want to know if root apps will work without modification.
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bwheelies said:
No Verizon bloatware for starters. I want to know if root apps will work without modification.
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Why would they? That would be stupid, you would have to unlock the boot loader as mentioned.
It is called a question, genius.
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No Verizon bloatware for starters. I want to know if root apps will work without modification.
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I'm not sure if it won't have Verizon bloatware since it's only getting released on Verizon. The GSM Moto X Developer Edition definitely won't have Verizon bloatware.
The Dev edition will be identical to the regular phone the only difference is that you can unlock the boot loader. It will have the same bloat we have a Google play edition would be vanilla android.
This really makes me mad. I feel like I am punished for buying early. :crying:
Anyone want to buy a consumer edition for $600?
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The Dev edition will be identical to the regular phone the only difference is that you can unlock the boot loader. It will have the same bloat we have a Google play edition would be vanilla android.
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This is exactly correct.
Developer editions are IDENTICAL to the retail versions of the devices with the only exception that the bootloaders are unlocked. All bloat will still be there and it will still be the lightly skinned version of android that we're used to.
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This really makes me mad. I feel like I am punished for buying early. :crying:
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My 14 day return window expired 1 day before they announced the developer edition (and I researched ahead of time - everybody thought they would do a Moto X dev edition, but nobody was thinking they'd do a Droid Maxx developer edition). I'm not that upset though because we have root now and that's what I really needed. Beyond root I'm not so sure custom ROMs would be as desirable since we can't exactly expect Cyanogenmod to support all the unique features of the Maxx.
The only reason I want the DE is for custom kernels.
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So... is it worth getting a DE phone? Or is it more useful for people who actually do Android Development. I'd like to be able to unlock and root... but not sure if its worth the cash.
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This really makes me mad. I feel like I am punished for buying early. :crying:
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I'm totally with you there. Damn Verizon.
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So... is it worth getting a DE phone? Or is it more useful for people who actually do Android Development. I'd like to be able to unlock and root... but not sure if its worth the cash.
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Depends if you want to change the operating system a lot switching roms I would say go with the dev edition it is better you can load a kernel not use ss and kexec to run roms. If you just want root well we have root and hash is working on ss (very close now) so you can flash roms.if you want. I don't think it is worth spending 650.00 for the phone vs.299.00 its more than double the price and you cant subsidize it as far as I know it is a straight purchase I believe. I doubt I will flash to many roms anyway this o.s runs great and I can customize it with xposed so my phone looks like it is running a custom rom, with out the bugs. My bioinic was so laggy when ever I ran a rom the only ones that ran right were based of the stock build and kernel. So why bother like I said xposed makes it so any dummy can create a custom looking rom in 5 min. Granted you wont get all the bells and whistles but I never used all the pie holo stuff anyway.
Well I found a buyer for my (locked) Droid MAXX and I ordered the Developer Edition yesterday. Hasn't shipped yet.
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Couldn't some dev out there figure a way to implant whats on the dev version to a consumer version? Is it not software that they would be dealing with? Or it also hardware based?
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Couldn't some dev out there figure a way to implant whats on the dev version to a consumer version? Is it not software that they would be dealing with? Or it also hardware based?
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The fun stuff (kernels, system updates, etc., for example) are blocked in a signed bootloader unless the updates are signed with Motorola's private key. The bootloader will not allow the update to flash unless it is signed with the private key that matches the bootloader's public key, which only Motorola has. The unlocked bootloader simply removes the requirement that updates must be signed. Having an unlocked phone gives you no way to determine the private key.
See http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ncryption-signing-and-locking-let-me-explain/
Looks like S5 will have locked bootloader on T-Mobile..
So that means people on AT&T are screwed because
1. No Dev edition
2. Can't Use T-Mobile edition on AT&T anymore.
Only Sprint S5 will have unlocked bootloader.
In a sense this a good thing because it will bring more devs to the scene from T-Mobile's section and we can finally crack this open.
Source: https://twitter.com/Anthony_J_Fox/status/446759896017420288
I give up on Samsung. My next phone is not Samsung. Im sick of these damn locked bootloaders.
I hear you. Its the carriers that are being dicks. Looks likes Safestrap is going to be mainstream @Hashcode got long hours ahead of him
The only way we can make them listen is not to buy them. Buy an international unlocked edition. But the majority of people have no interest in rooting and roming. I don't blame them due to warranty claims for bricked devices, but they should have something like htc dev where you unlock it you own it unless it's something unrelated to rooting. That is acceptable to me.
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Walter.White said:
I hear you. Its the carriers that are being dicks. Looks likes Safestrap is going to be mainstream @Hashcode got long hours ahead of him
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Safestrap is fine for me. It's a custom recovery as far as I'm concerned. I don't use the extra rom slots, just the stock one so it works for me the same as having an unlocked bootloader. I never usually flashed too many kernels always so that doesn't bother me. We can do backups restores and flash roms. What more could you want?
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Skizzy034 said:
Safestrap is fine for me. It's a custom recovery as far as I'm concerned. I don't use the extra rom slots, just the stock one so it works for me the same as having an unlocked bootloader. I never usually flashed too many kernels always so that doesn't bother me. We can do backups restores and flash roms. What more could you want?
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Battery optimized kernels. (For instance look at teamsek's N3 kernel. ~10 hours of screen on time. On asop, albeit).
Don't just blame att. Blame Samsung for allowing it to happen.
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Intub8 said:
Don't just blame att. Blame Samsung for allowing it to happen.
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Either way it's us who pay the price.
Well I wouldn't even have rooted or installed a custom rom had they released a phone with a broken GPS that they couldn't or wouldn't fix. Ridiculous. Custom rom fixed it.
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Yeah, sucks big time. I guess we need to change from Samsung to another brand, my Note 3 is a beautiful and powerful device the only thing that is keeping the leash is the locked bootloader. I'm considering to go with a Nexus or Sony smartphone, I love how I'm able to do whatever I want with my Nexus 7 2013.
If its similar to the S4, you could also look into the Canadian carriers' S5 and Note 3/4. The i337m (m for Canada and some Latin countries) had an unlocked bootloader. It was the same exact device as AT&T's just with an unlocked bootloader and ever SLOWER official ROM updates.
juanyunis said:
Yeah, sucks big time. I guess we need to change from Samsung to another brand, my Note 3 is a beautiful and powerful device the only thing that is keeping the leash is the locked bootloader. I'm considering to go with a Nexus or Sony smartphone, I love how I'm able to do whatever I want with my Nexus 7 2013.
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Just bought a Nexus 7 2013, unlocked the bootloader loader and rooted, just because! Nexus will need to put out a phone that's at least 5.5". When they do I'm on it! And it could have a crappy camera!
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Yeah, what i love about my note 3 and even my old S4 was the ability to use the ir emitter to control my tv, etc. and well some other cool features like the airview, the s-note, etc.
They should make a dev edition of the phone with multi-carrier support like a (T-mobile/ATT GSM) or a (Verizon/Sprint CDMA) version. In that way they keep the people and devs happy.
I done with Samsung had a cappy,infuse,s3,now n3. I have been looking for a new device for a few months, can not stand the locked bootloader crap.
Nexus devices need bigger screens and better cameras if they fix that I would be happy as a clam.
Till then I will wait for something with a nice screen,camera, and unlocked BL!!!!!!
RUNNERX said:
I done with Samsung had a cappy,infuse,s3,now n3. I have been looking for a new device for a few months, can not stand the locked bootloader crap.
Nexus devices need bigger screens and better cameras if they fix that I would be happy as a clam.
Till then I will wait for something with a nice screen,camera, and unlocked BL!!!!!!
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I wish Carriers here in US were selling Sony's flagship devices.
And also Nokia shoot themselves in foot by going with WP.... If they would've went with Android, they could've been the biggest rival for sammy.
Really what difference does an unlocked boot loader make? I'll gladly trade camera, screen, everything if it means no flashing crap AOKP Roms.
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joe3681 said:
Really what difference does an unlocked boot loader make? I'll gladly trade camera, screen, everything if it means no flashing crap AOKP Roms.
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Allows better optimized kernels (For instance here are some pics from N3 running temasek's kernel)
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I don't think the carriers care about XDAers. We are such a small portion of the end users, but bricked devices from this forum are probably responsible for a significant portion of the returns.
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Well I wouldn't even have rooted or installed a custom rom had they released a phone with a broken GPS that they couldn't or wouldn't fix. Ridiculous. Custom rom fixed it.
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The rom absolutely fixed it? I read that some thought it could be a hardware problem.
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I'm alright with it, simply because I use my S pen. And the Samsung camera, other TW apps. If I wanted AOSP I'd get the nexus 5.
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Allows better optimized kernels (For instance here are some pics from N3 running temasek's kernel)
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Not too impressive, I've seen people here hit close to that on stock unrooted. I've gone 2.5 days with 8 hours screen time, so custom kernel doesn't seem to make that much of a difference here.
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Been using my Nexus 6 for about two days now and, while I love the ever loving begeezus out of this phone, there is one HUGE issue I have a problem with. Sadly, it's not even Google or the phone's fault, it's my carrier. Using AT&T, for some reason, they thought it a good idea to block the update until June. Now I know that I can manually install the update myself, but I have yet to find a method that is, for a lack of a better word, idiot proof and actually works. Other than that, this phone is freaking awesome!
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toledodj said:
Been using my Nexus 6 for about two days now and, while I love the ever loving begeezus out of this phone, there is one HUGE issue I have a problem with. Sadly, it's not even Google or the phone's fault, it's my carrier. Using AT&T, for some reason, they thought it a good idea to block the update until June. Now I know that I can manually install the update myself, but I have yet to find a method that is, for a lack of a better word, idiot proof and actually works. Other than that, this phone is freaking awesome!
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If you're 100% stock, just sideload. Very easy.
toledodj said:
Been using my Nexus 6 for about two days now and, while I love the ever loving begeezus out of this phone, there is one HUGE issue I have a problem with. Sadly, it's not even Google or the phone's fault, it's my carrier. Using AT&T, for some reason, they thought it a good idea to block the update until June. Now I know that I can manually install the update myself, but I have yet to find a method that is, for a lack of a better word, idiot proof and actually works. Other than that, this phone is freaking awesome!
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1) Where did you come up with "June"?
2) https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
toledodj said:
Been using my Nexus 6 for about two days now and, while I love the ever loving begeezus out of this phone, there is one HUGE issue I have a problem with. Sadly, it's not even Google or the phone's fault, it's my carrier. Using AT&T, for some reason, they thought it a good idea to block the update until June. Now I know that I can manually install the update myself, but I have yet to find a method that is, for a lack of a better word, idiot proof and actually works. Other than that, this phone is freaking awesome!
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Use nexus root toolkit, it's idiot proof
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Use nexus root toolkit, it's idiot proof
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I second this motion. I had been out of the mix forever. That tool is a lifesaver. So easy to follow, and there are tons of video guides on youtube on how to use it.
Adb sideload requires no unlock is just a hair above idiot proof
This worked on the new Nexus 6 I just picked up at AT&T last week. It immediately notified me with the 5.1 update.
1. Backup your Nexus 6 (go to “settings” >> “backup & reset” >> select an account to back-up by clicking on “backup” and selecting the account you want to backup)
2. Remove your SIM card
3. Reset your Nexus 6 (go to “settings” >> “backup & reset” >> “factory reset data”)
4. Restore your Nexus 6 during set-up but DO NOT insert your SIM card
Make sure to connect to your Wifi during the setup process and leave the SIM out. It should prompt you with the system update. Also this method prevents the few AT&T bloatware apps from installing as a plus.
You don't even have to sideload to get 5.1 from Google OTA, in your case: link
(EDIT: Just saw the post above this one - same steps I referenced)
- ooofest
I'm really thinking abt getting one.
How much screen time are yal getting ?
Any Bluetooth issues?
Is the Motorola camera kinda crummy
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93fuelslut said:
I'm really thinking abt getting one.
How much screen time are yal getting ?
Any Bluetooth issues?
Is the Motorola camera kinda crummy
sent from your moms phone
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I think you will love the phone once you get your hands on one. Camera ain't like the note 4 but it's up there it's better then supposedly the older nexus devices which honestly I never owned so idk.
Battery is good there's plenty of development on this device and what's great that it's universal through out all carriers, here's a battery stat from my usage but everyone uses their phones differently.
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This worked on the new Nexus 6 I just picked up at AT&T last week. It immediately notified me with the 5.1 update.
1. Backup your Nexus 6 (go to “settings” >> “backup & reset” >> select an account to back-up by clicking on “backup” and selecting the account you want to backup)
2. Remove your SIM card
3. Reset your Nexus 6 (go to “settings” >> “backup & reset” >> “factory reset data”)
4. Restore your Nexus 6 during set-up but DO NOT insert your SIM card
Make sure to connect to your Wifi during the setup process and leave the SIM out. It should prompt you with the system update. Also this method prevents the few AT&T bloatware apps from installing as a plus.
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Tried this method. It didn't work for me. I even left the sim card out for a half an hour, still nothing.
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Camera is leaps and bounds better than any nexus
ooofest said:
You don't even have to sideload to get 5.1 from Google OTA, in your case: link
(EDIT: Just saw the post above this one - same steps I referenced)
- ooofest
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Yeah, I tried it and it didn't work. Even waited thirty minutes before putting the sim back in
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Smallsmx3 said:
Use nexus root toolkit, it's idiot proof
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I don't really have any interest in rooting
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doitright said:
1) Where did you come up with "June"?
2) https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
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http://www.phonearena.com/news/Turn...akes-a-little-extra-effort--heres-how_id67599
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toledodj said:
I don't really have any interest in rooting
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You don't have to root. It does everything. Including flashing factory images
Update: I'm finally running Lollipop 5.1. I just sideloaded it using a video tutorial.
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Yeah, I tried it and it didn't work. Even waited thirty minutes before putting the sim back in
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Did you actually do a factory data reset of the device? Removing the SIM didn't work for me until actually resetting the phone.
- ooofest
Yeah I followed the entire process to the letter
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Yeah I followed the entire process to the letter
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That's really odd - your experience is the first I've read where a 5.0.1 Nexus 6, with SIM removed and then factory data reset, wouldn't pick up the OTA (via WiFi) soon after it booted up and went through setup. Guess it's not foolproof.
- ooofest