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Dev Request - HDMI Desktop Out

Ok, I'm getting this "phone". I've been sitting around waiting for a release date for what seems like a year now, lol.
Here is my one request, from the marvelous XDA dev community, who has never ceased to amaze me in the years I've been here.
I want this thing to do HDMI out. I'm not talking pushing a YouTube video out of the HDMI port, I want to see Android on my 24" monitor. I want to be able to use a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard to run the controls, and I want to be able to dock my Streak and use it on a larger display. 720p/1080p would be a huge bonus, but I have no idea what limitations are in place there.
Ok, that's it. Make that happen, and I will be very happy.

If you pay £55 for the Dell Home AV Kit it will do this I believe......

Granted, I don't have a Streak on which to try it out...but isn't that only for videos (YouTube, video files, etc)? As far as I'm aware, you don't get the actual desktop, right?

I don't have one either, but in a video I saw it appeared that the dock only pushes the video through the HDMI and not the android "desktop."
I too would love to be able to do this though!

Ah right thats not too good then, the Samsung Galaxy seems to be TV-Out and just replicated the system as on the screen, I'm thinking of buying a Nokia N900 to play with as it has TV out and would let me play SNES / Mega Drive games etc when I'm in a hotel room.

I wonder if full TV Out is something we could hack

£55 is a lot for just movies out...i was hoping for full android on my big tv

fracmo2000 said:
£55 is a lot for just movies out...i was hoping for full android on my big tv
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Yeah, that's for sure. Big deal, if I wanna watch just movies, I'll find a computer and do it. The power of HDMI-out is in being able to use Android on your phone on the go, and then docking it and using it as a netbook-replacement when at a desk (or as a HTPC when in the living room, etc.)

Give it a few months once the Chinese get their hands on it and they will churn out the Accessories and flood ebay

I need this also for a bmw idrive integration. I'm sure the community will crack it.
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i would love to do this while also running ubuntu it would be like christmas (or when i first heard about android) i would dock it and BAM i would have ubuntu then dissconnect it and id have android

sgeorge said:
I need this also for a bmw idrive integration. I'm sure the community will crack it.
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I just bought a BMW with the new 1280 pix CiC I-Drive display. With a Motorola Bionic, I'm hoping to send TV to the phone via SlingBox and send the HDMI out from the phone to the display in the car.
Thoughts?

Who will be purchasing Nexus Q?

I think Nexus Q seems to be interesting. Don't know whether I will buy it.

Worth it... if....
tthaz777 said:
I think Nexus Q seems to be interesting. Don't know whether I will buy it.
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...if you get it off ebay for $200 w/ free shipping instead of the list price of $300+shipping and tax from the android market. If development takes off (which is looking good so far) you will definitely wish you would have gotten one new in box off of ebay not instead of waiting later. I can't imagine it will be long before people have all kinds of cool stuff running on this thing. Dev's have already got some nice preliminary work tests: launcher's running, netflix, pong, installing and running apps through adb. Good things are ahead.
Currently if you have a jellybean device you can push Google Play music and movies/tv shows as well as youtube. If you only have an ICS phone or tablet you can control it with the help from bobukcat. He has put together a super easy tutorial on how to use the Nexus Q with an ICS device (here) until Google puts out their updated app for everyone down to Gingerbread. With this I can only get Music. I don't own any tv or movies through Google Play so i cannot say if that works...
Being that I already use Google Music for my music it is nice not having to physically connect my tablet/phone to my receiver when i want to listen to music and do other stuff with my device at the same time. Google streams whatever quality your original file was so they will sound the same as the mp3s you have ripped. Last I looked Google's max bitrate supported is 320kbs and 20,000 uploaded songs. I don't think purchased song count towards your song count (someone correct me if I'm wrong).
All in all tthaz777, I'm glad I picked one up. The thing looks fantastic and construction quality is great. It has a satin finish so no nasty finger prints. The visualizations are cool and the boot sequence has a futuristic look. The convenience factor is great. Development possibilities wide open.
**I haven't hooked them up to analogue speakers yet so I cannot attest to how well their "audiophile grade amp" works. Anyone try this yet??

abw0046 said:
...if you get it off ebay for $200 w/ free shipping instead of the list price of $300+shipping and tax from the android market. If development takes off (which is looking good so far) you will definitely wish you would have gotten one new in box off of ebay not instead of waiting later. I can't imagine it will be long before people have all kinds of cool stuff running on this thing. Dev's have already got some nice preliminary work tests: launcher's running, netflix, pong, installing and running apps through adb. Good things are ahead.
Currently if you have a jellybean device you can push Google Play music and movies/tv shows as well as youtube. If you only have an ICS phone or tablet you can control it with the help from bobukcat. He has put together a super easy tutorial on how to use the Nexus Q with an ICS device (here) until Google puts out their updated app for everyone down to Gingerbread. With this I can only get Music. I don't own any tv or movies through Google Play so i cannot say if that works...
Being that I already use Google Music for my music it is nice not having to physically connect my tablet/phone to my receiver when i want to listen to music and do other stuff with my device at the same time. Google streams whatever quality your original file was so they will sound the same as the mp3s you have ripped. Last I looked Google's max bitrate supported is 320kbs and 20,000 uploaded songs. I don't think purchased song count towards your song count (someone correct me if I'm wrong).
All in all tthaz777, I'm glad I picked one up. The thing looks fantastic and construction quality is great. It has a satin finish so no nasty finger prints. The visualizations are cool and the boot sequence has a futuristic look. The convenience factor is great. Development possibilities wide open.
**I haven't hooked them up to analogue speakers yet so I cannot attest to how well their "audiophile grade amp" works. Anyone try this yet??
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Thanks for your long reply. You must be a Nexus fan.
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Just bought one on eBay for $205 sealed new in box
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Now that XBMC is running on the Q, I will be picking up at least one of them.

[Q] stupid question? - airplay?

I have recently changed my iphone to a nexus 4 and wondered if there is any way i can stream/play music to my Bose airplay speaker.
I am aware that the bose has a 3.5mm input but would love to be able to connect to it and play stuff wireless.
Is there any application/way i can do this?
thanks

Not sure if there is an airplay replicating app. You could plug a Bluetooth dongle into the audio in of the speaker and use Bluetooth for wireless streaming but not a very elegant solution.
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That's the problem when Apple decides to do their special stuff, or in this case take already implemented stuff and change it ever so slightly that you need a Apple device to get it work and the original standard isn't compatible anymore. WIFI Direct is what Airplay is made up from and the Nexus 4 (and all newer devices) can do it just fine (or even older devices with apps) but there's nothing for AirPlay because that's Apple tech and only theirs.
As mentioned though, the bluetooth to 3.5MM dongle is your only bet now with those speakers or just get some bluetooth speakers in general and those will work with everything - Apple devices included.

Try iplay in the play store. I know there is an app for apple TV that works. Kinda limited but works. Iplay claims to have speaker headset functionality but its not 100% clear if that is only to the device or from device to speakers. Anyway just search airplay in the play store and see if one works

thanks for the reply guys, went for the Bose airplay speaker over the bluetooth version as sound quality form the blueetoth was poor at the time and this seemed better, however, with no longer having the iphone it kinda loses its functionality as the only way i can now use it is to plug into the 3.5mm jack or i guess buy an ipod touch.
Bit of a pain as i was hoping to have all my music in the cloud (google music) and be able to access it from there.

Doubletwist has the ability to stream to airplay. I think you need to purchase it as a module though. I've used in on someone else's phone before and it worked exactly as you'd expect.

shotta35 said:
That's the problem when Apple decides to do their special stuff, or in this case take already implemented stuff and change it ever so slightly that you need a Apple device to get it work and the original standard isn't compatible anymore. WIFI Direct is what Airplay is made up from and the Nexus 4 (and all newer devices) can do it just fine (or even older devices with apps) but there's nothing for AirPlay because that's Apple tech and only theirs.
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Change it ever so slightly? You mean... make it work. I have used Airplay for years and it is flawless, and very high quality. Still waiting for something remotely comparable on Android.

You could try AppleTV AirPlay Media Player from the Play store.
I haven't used it. But at least it is free. Give it a whack!

Hello everyone. I just got one these Bose airplay for Christmas but like some of you I have an Android device. Can anyone please confirm a working solution app for this? Any shared experiences would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!

Thanks for all the replies guys, it seems there are some possible solutions then. I have tried to 'Google it' also but most air play topics I came up with seemed to be around streaming video/pictures to your TV. I am really just after the ability to stream music content to my new Bose speaker. I know ways of getting my iTunes music etc on my android phone OK. Just want to be able to play it on my airplay speaker. Would be great if I were able to play things like Google music, spotify and tunelin radio also.
Any working suggestions really appreciated.
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Anyone?
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Well did you try any of the suggestions?
I have used doubletwist to stream music to an airplay device. Isn't this what you were after??

peedub said:
Well did you try any of the suggestions?
I have used doubletwist to stream music to an airplay device. Isn't this what you were after??
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Yes I have double twist and that only works with apple TV not airplay speakers, that's what they told me when I contacted them.
I have tried an app called beam but that seems a bit hit and miss and quality is not great.
I need a proper working solution if anyone can help.
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Interesting article, although I haven't tried any of them, but I intend to buy a new amplifier that is airplay compatible, so if someone could try these apps and give feedback:
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/android-apps/18049/best-airplay-apps-android

worth the buy?

so its time for me to upgrade, i owned a g box and it was cool at the time year or 2 later it starts to give me problems its slow most things dont work ect so iv been using my pc to watch movies via xbmc, now i want to stop and look for a new xbmc media player and seen the nexus player and looks promising, and been looking around a bit about xbmc for it, is this recommended buy? id like a box that is fast able to use xbmc and more less problems lol

DayDaysTech said:
so its time for me to upgrade, i owned a g box and it was cool at the time year or 2 later it starts to give me problems its slow most things dont work ect so iv been using my pc to watch movies via xbmc, now i want to stop and look for a new xbmc media player and seen the nexus player and looks promising, and been looking around a bit about xbmc for it, is this recommended buy? id like a box that is fast able to use xbmc and more less problems lol
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At this time I would wait just a few weeks as both Razer Forge and Nvidia are releasing new boxes which have better specs.The Nvidia is a little more pricey at $199 the forge will be $99 according to the options you choose. Both will be better boxes if I had to choose. Roku is also due with the Roku 4 anytime now. There will be allot of choices by June.

Im currently using my nexus player solely for xbmc, ive unlocked and rooted it. And ive installed xbmc launcher. Actually im technically using the alpha nightly of kodi. Its amazing. Ive installed genesis, and aeon nox skin. I use the nexus player remote to control kodi. Unles you plan on using the nexus player for kodi, it's useless. But running kodi its damn near perfect.

i love my nexus player. it is not great for everyone though.
first of all you need a mouse and keyboard. and a gamepad.
second and most important you must have a thirst for tinkering to appreciate what you have.
if you just want to consume media stick with chromecast or a cheaper roku.

Kodi runs great on the Nexus Player...the only 2 things for me is the frame rate is locked to 60fps and the inability to play VC-1 (it plays but its pretty unwatchable as I believe it uses software instead of hardware).

What about if you want to play emulators?

if a tablet will run it you can most likely get it to run on the nexus player with some hackery.(lollirock rom will run most tablet apps without much fighting).
my bluetooth controllers work great with the emulators ive tried.

I still think for gamers there are better options coming up. I have the adt1 its a great box guess I am just waiting for the Android Tv box with strong specs. Nvidia Shield?

Don't buy it, I've had mine since 1/22/2015 and I have been having issues with it.
Netflix crashes when I try to choose a show/movie.
Slow at times, including having to fully reset it due to extreme slowdowns.
Remote feels very fragile, buttons feel bad.
Unresponsive when using the remote sometimes.
Voice search is terrible, it's laggy and unreliable. Not to mention it doesn't work with many of the apps.
Wifi connection only, unless you get Micro USB to Ethernet adapter.
No normal sized USB connector, meaning you absolutely need a Micro to Normal USB adapter.
Rooted apps require a mouse and keyboard, the remote most of the time does not work on them. (and remember to hook up a mouse and keyboard you need micro to normal usb adapter)
I feel bad for this Asus/Google product, and wish I could take back my purchase of this item.
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Most of these issues weren't noticeable when I first got it, but after a while all these things become a big issue.

Here is my take on the Nexus Player:
I've rooted, and installed Droidmote. This allows for controlling sideloaded apps. I have entered custom DNS values to allow for region restricted apps. I transfer apps using the SendAnywhere app. There is much more flexibility with this box than with ones that are locked down. It is more what it can do, than what it does out of the box. There are weaknesses with all streaming media players, but this does everything I need in one box. I haven't had any problems with the Netflix app. For those that like to tinker with android, the Nexus Player is ideal. For those that want an out of the box solution, time will tell.

I regret buying the Nexus Player. It freezes,Bluetooth controller/remote disconnect all the time,lack of apps even with side loading, various app crashes (Netflix mostly),voice search sucks and it just feels like a beta product at best.

DayDaysTech said:
so its time for me to upgrade, i owned a g box and it was cool at the time year or 2 later it starts to give me problems its slow most things dont work ect so iv been using my pc to watch movies via xbmc, now i want to stop and look for a new xbmc media player and seen the nexus player and looks promising, and been looking around a bit about xbmc for it, is this recommended buy? id like a box that is fast able to use xbmc and more less problems lol
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I think the Android TV platform is great. But the nexus player doesn't seems as good as what is coming soon hardware wise. I'd wait for the Razer forge tv or nvidia shield console.

cheeto said:
I think the Android TV platform is great. But the nexus player doesn't seems as good as what is coming soon hardware wise. I'd wait for the Razer forge tv or nvidia shield console.
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Yeah the nvidia looks pretty sweet.

I love it!!
I have had many devices including ATV1,2,3 and the WD TV. The Applee 3 is still used for mirroring from Idevices. The WD was second device as it had and external HDD port but it was constantly rebooting. With my Nexus player I enabled devleoper mode and enabled the USB support. I bought an USB to go cable and installed file explorer. Now it's my favourite device. It can do HDD movies, netflix and Kodi.
Well worth it in my mind. Also had custom roms available if you don't like android TV and want to go to lollipop.

If you can find an Android ADT-1 (the developer's Android TV box), then you'd be better off with that. Much better specs - I've been using mine for nearly 2 months now and since the 5.0.1 update about 7 weeks ago it's been running flawlessly.

Lokke9191 said:
Im currently using my nexus player solely for xbmc, ive unlocked and rooted it. And ive installed xbmc launcher. Actually im technically using the alpha nightly of kodi. Its amazing. Ive installed genesis, and aeon nox skin. I use the nexus player remote to control kodi. Unles you plan on using the nexus player for kodi, it's useless. But running kodi its damn near perfect.
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Hi there,
Were you able to get Navi-X up and running?
This is my main reason for wanting to buy the nexus player. This way, I'd not need to hook my laptop up to the TV and could just access Navi-X from the Nexus Player.
Please advise if you (or anyone else) has been able to get Navi-X running on the nexus player.
Thanks!!

I think the biggest plus for the nexus player would be regular android updates directly from google for a long time.

Shield TV and kodi

Hi all
I currently have a t8 android box and wanted to upgrade.
I am looking at this and I will mainly only be using it for kodi.
Does anyone else use it for kodi alot and if so how does it perform?
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This unit outperforms everything else I tried. Almost no crashes.
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Hands down the best device for Kodi. Super fast no lag and buffer
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Very fast indeed.
I have a small annoying issue with Genesis though. Thumbnails are not showing up. Tried reinstall addon amd even the whole Kodi doeant work.
Anyone know how to fix it?
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zhuozhi211 said:
Very fast indeed.
I have a small annoying issue with Genesis though. Thumbnails are not showing up. Tried reinstall addon amd even the whole Kodi doeant work.
Anyone know how to fix it?
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Are you running Full Android or stock? I had that issue on other pure android devices, but not Android TV.
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Stock rooted.
Strangely it works well on my other Android box.
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Kodi is kick in the butt on the Nvidia Shield very stable and smooth no lagged or shutter.

kodi makes only random woke ups from sleep --- and this is annoying when you have smart telly in bedroom and shield connected with cec future by hdmi and when this tricks start started at night time . hope guys there will fix this bug ---- otherwise kodi on shield is more then good

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chrisnewton said:
Hi all
I currently have a t8 android box and wanted to upgrade.
I am looking at this and I will mainly only be using it for kodi.
Does anyone else use it for kodi alot and if so how does it perform?
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I have a Shield inbound today for exactly this purpose. You'll probably find more support on the Kodi forum.
http://forum.kodi.tv/index.php

BillTheCat said:
I have a Shield inbound today for exactly this purpose. You'll probably find more support on the Kodi forum.
http://forum.kodi.tv/index.php
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Yea thanks mate been on there too.. Can you let me know what you think of it?

I got my shield a couple days ago. I'm not a gamer. I got it mostly for media consumption. I learned about kodi a few days before my shield came. I have to say it runs much better in the shield than it did on my windows laptop, it also ran better than it did on my phones. I love kodi now.. Haha it makes my shield so much more enjoyable. All the movies, the live streams of channels.. It's awesome.. I feel like I'm back in the 80s when people had those big satellite dishes and would get TV from all over the world.. Haha. The use to have a laptop plugged into the TV that I used for all media but the shield has replaced that. Really love the device.
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Exit Kodi and delete your textures13.db file using a file manager like ES File Explorer. From there, restart your box. This should fix your problem.
Path: android/data/org.xbmc.kodi/.kodi/userdata/Database/Textures13.db
Note: the path I provided above is probably wrong. I'm going by memory.
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Thanks. Tried that but didnt work for me somehow.
Even tried reinstalling the whole Kodi, sidnt help as well... wonder why.
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I see a lot of praise for the streaming abilities of this device. But how is it at streaming those 35+ GB full bluray rips with HD audio? Neither the Roku3 nor the AfTV were able to handle the video (let alone the lack of HD audio support) without transcoding down quality. Assume end to end hardwiring for the scenario.

audiophan said:
I see a lot of praise for the streaming abilities of this device. But how is it at streaming those 35+ GB full bluray rips with HD audio? Neither the Roku3 nor the AfTV were able to handle the video (let alone the lack of HD audio support) without transcoding down quality. Assume end to end hardwiring for the scenario.
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Slammin'. My entire collection of Blu-ray is ripped full size to ISO, some are over 45gb. I watch them from a 4Tb drive in an external USB enclosure until I get a NAS unit.

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Slammin'. My entire collection of Blu-ray is ripped full size to ISO, some are over 45gb. I watch them from a 4Tb drive in an external USB enclosure until I get a NAS unit.
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Fantastic! I'm excited to see if this become the be all, end all media device for my living room.

audiophan said:
Fantastic! I'm excited to see if this become the be all, end all media device for my living room.
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Well, 'be-all' means different things to different people, so YMMV.
I was looking for a way to consolidate my streaming media sources (HBO, Netflix, Hulu, Amazon) and have my movie collection accessible (Kodi) so that I didn't have dozens of movies cluttering up my shelf. If you're looking for the same sort of arrangement, you'll need some method to rip your collection to ISO (or another format) without the copy protection kicking in to prevent playback.
The one thing that the SATV lacks which would be great is a TOSLINK (optical audio out) so that I could connect it to a DAC for my semi-high-end audio system. Yes, I'm a bit of an audio snob and keep my two systems separate. But it's not a deal-killer and I can always either get a USB/DAC dongle for the Shield or cobble a Raspberry Pi2 and a TOSLINK daughter board to connect that to the NAS for my audio needs.
Anyway, feel free to PM me. In the meantime, you'll find some great information at these links here:
Kodi forum
Nvidia Shield TV Forum

chrisnewton said:
Hi all
I currently have a t8 android box and wanted to upgrade.
I am looking at this and I will mainly only be using it for kodi.
Does anyone else use it for kodi alot and if so how does it perform?
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I never used Kodi BEFORE I got my Shield (2 weeks ago), but I've fallen pretty hard for it pretty quick. Obviously, as such, I have no past experience with Kodi to compare it against, but my experiences have by-and-large been quite positive.
The Aeon Nox skin is working very well for me. Arctic Zephyr is as well. I tried Bello, but things moved pretty slow/slugishly, so that ended pretty quickly... not sure if that's unique-to-Shield or not, though.
I hooked up an HDHomeRun Prime, and added the Add-On to view Live TV within Kodi. I feel that motion-blur is a lot worse with this add-on than it is with the native HDHomeRun View app for Shield. I think this might be a deinterlacing issue? Hopefully SiliconDust improves this when they update.
Movie playback within Kodi is exceptionally. Kodi 15.2 is currently properly decoding Dolby TrueHD internally and outputting the LPCM. DTS-HD-MA is hit-and-miss, but all reports indicate that they have that nailed down for the upcoming update to Jarvis 16.0 (which just moved from Alpha to Beta this week).
The Shield is very snappy, moving into and out of menus and into and out of apps. I'm liking it so much I already ordered a second, it should be waiting for me when I get home tonight.... I think it's a great little device.

Kodi on shield.
Every this runs as smooth as silk on the nvidia console. I have had mine since june from the USA. paid import tax the lot, But it was worth it. Updates every other week you dont get that on any other china box.

Beta Build with working DTS/DTS-MA/TRUE-HD Passthrough
For those waiting for HD Audio Passthrough, there is an experimental build here(NOT MY WORK.. ALL CREDIT TO AUTHOR):
http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=252852
Also looks like the senior devs at kodi are rejecting this change as android Home Theater is not their "Vision". I strongly encourage people to sign up and post your opinions to the kodi devs/admins and show your support for the dev working to bring this to us!
I have loaded this and while I am still testing, all appears to be working perfectly with makemkv library full of truehd and dts-ma