I have had my TF300 for a few months and like a lot of people I am not as happy with it as I thought I would be. I got the keyboard dock thinking I would use this more for school than I actually do.
What I would like to do is load the actual Chrome OS on my tablet. I dont know if anyone has even tried this or if it is even possible. I dont know if the Chrome Book OS is open like the OS for Google tabs and phones. It is just thought...
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I have had my TF300 for a few months and like a lot of people I am not as happy with it as I thought I would be. I got the keyboard dock thinking I would use this more for school than I actually do.
What I would like to do is load the actual Chrome OS on my tablet. I dont know if anyone has even tried this or if it is even possible. I dont know if the Chrome Book OS is open like the OS for Google tabs and phones. It is just thought...
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ChromeOS is built partially from Chromium, which is open source. There was another post about this a while back, and I don't think it went anywhere. Tegra 3 isn't well suited for running ChromeOS if I remember the discussion correctly.
running it on our tegra 3 is something I wasn't sure about. I think most of the chrome books have an atom processor. It would be nice to have.
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running it on our tegra 3 is something I wasn't sure about. I think most of the chrome books have an atom processor. It would be nice to have.
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Ubuntu is close to working though... its a much more powerful standalone OS than chrome is. I was thinking of going that route soon myself.
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Ubuntu is close to working though... its a much more powerful standalone OS than chrome is. I was thinking of going that route soon myself.
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How close to working are we talking about and where is it posted? The only information I can find in the development section are a few preview builds with very poor hardware support. I bought this tablet with the hopes that I could at least dualboot with ubuntu, so if it is working I would really like to know so I can try it out.
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How close to working are we talking about and where is it posted? The only information I can find in the development section are a few preview builds with very poor hardware support. I bought this tablet with the hopes that I could at least dualboot with ubuntu, so if it is working I would really like to know so I can try it out.
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Well i run linux dual boot on my tf101, tf300t and tf700 lol and they all work great, the tf300t needs a bit more attention, but its definitely worth doing, sound is the issue on debian based distros on the tf300t, but on arch linux it works fine.
These three videos of mine demonstrate where we are with the tf300t
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRHXsG2G3c8 ubuntu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzV4K11YNMY ubuntu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdo5CMLg6oY xubuntu
didnt have time to do arch but its probley the further along in terms of funtionality.
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Well i run linux dual boot on my tf101, tf300t and tf700 lol and they all work great, the tf300t needs a bit more attention, but its definitely worth doing, sound is the issue on debian based distros on the tf300t, but on arch linux it works fine.
These three videos of mine demonstrate where we are with the tf300t
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRHXsG2G3c8 ubuntu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzV4K11YNMY ubuntu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdo5CMLg6oY xubuntu
didnt have time to do arch but its probley the further along in terms of funtionality.
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I'm impressed and I'm totally in. Where can I get a build to install on my TF300 or do I have to build it myself? I don't have the Android SDK installed on my laptop, so I would probably need a few hours while Gentoo compiles it, but as soon as it finishes I will happily get on it.
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Most chromebook uses exynos processor found in samsung phone, I dont see why it cant run in tegra
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I'm impressed and I'm totally in. Where can I get a build to install on my TF300 or do I have to build it myself? I don't have the Android SDK installed on my laptop, so I would probably need a few hours while Gentoo compiles it, but as soon as it finishes I will happily get on it.
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Well have a look in the xubuntu thread in development, basiclly you need to be on android 4.1(only stock/ stock based rom work atm) and unlocked. Download the xubuntu kernel and rootfs. extract the xubuntu rootfs to /data/media/linux and make sure its called "rootfs.img" then flash the kernel to the staging partition with "dd if=*name of kernel* of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p4" (after you reboot, the tablet will flash the kernel)
from there you shoud get an option to boot into android or linux (it boots linux by default)
if you prefer ubuntu you can download the the install script and rootfs from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2014759 follow the instructions in the thread, but before you reboot open up the built in terminal in twrp and flash the xubuntu kernel with the above command.
For Arch it takes a bit longer but you get better i.o performance and you can get sound working, follow the instructions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38874272&postcount=429
if you need more help with this open a new thread, goodluck
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Well have a look in the xubuntu thread in development, basiclly you need to be on android 4.1(only stock/ stock based rom work atm) and unlocked. Download the xubuntu kernel and rootfs. extract the xubuntu rootfs to /data/media/linux and make sure its called "rootfs.img" then flash the kernel to the staging partition with "dd if=*name of kernel* of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p4" (after you reboot, the tablet will flash the kernel)
from there you shoud get an option to boot into android or linux (it boots linux by default)
if you prefer ubuntu you can download the the install script and rootfs from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2014759 follow the instructions in the thread, but before you reboot open up the built in terminal in twrp and flash the xubuntu kernel with the above command.
For Arch it takes a bit longer but you get better i.o performance and you can get sound working, follow the instructions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38874272&postcount=429
if you need more help with this open a new thread, goodluck
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Xubuntu looks faster. Likely because Unity is a resource hog >.> Reminds me why the first thing I do on ANY ubuntu rig i put together is remove it
Personally im waiting to see how much more work is done then jump aboard. I use my Tf300 at work mostly for iheart radio..... so .... Audio is a must Question though. Are you Dual-Booting Android and nix? I read up on how other devices were dualbooting by replacing recovery with the Ubuntu kernel. Is this similar or is the Android kernel replaced by a linux kernel that loops to the android system ( Via grub/lilo or something similar )? Just wondering
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Xubuntu looks faster. Likely because Unity is a resource hog >.> Reminds me why the first thing I do on ANY ubuntu rig i put together is remove it
Personally im waiting to see how much more work is done then jump aboard. I use my Tf300 at work mostly for iheart radio..... so .... Audio is a must Question though. Are you Dual-Booting Android and nix? I read up on how other devices were dualbooting by replacing recovery with the Ubuntu kernel. Is this similar or is the Android kernel replaced by a linux kernel that loops to the android system ( Via grub/lilo or something similar )? Just wondering
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Yes im dualbooting but we still have our recovery. If we all had access to nvflash wec could modifiy the recovery partition and have linux boot from that, the adavantage of this is better i.o performance, the disadvantage oviously we would lose recovery(this is how the tf101 used to dualboot, but the recovery can be temperally flashed over the linux kernel). We are using a dual init system, the first init will load android processes(and boot android) and the second loop mounts the rootfs.img and boots it.
Yeah sound as far as ive tested on the debian-based linux isnt working, it looks like a kernel issue somewhere that freezes alsa restore, the same thing happens on archlinux but if you remove the restore daemon it works fine (you just have to enable some sound channels, hense what alsa restores jop was)
how far off are we from being able to have this as a day-to-day driver? Sound is very important as I use my tablet for netflix and youtube.
I have never used Linux or pretty much anything other than Windows and now Android. IS this close to an actual OS and not like a mobile Chrome or iOS? I dont know if that makes sense.
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how far off are we from being able to have this as a day-to-day driver? Sound is very important as I use my tablet for netflix and youtube.
I have never used Linux or pretty much anything other than Windows and now Android. IS this close to an actual OS and not like a mobile Chrome or iOS? I dont know if that makes sense.
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Netflix doesn't work ATM for Linux. It uses silverlight which wouldn't be so bad, but the Linux implementation lacks DRM. You need to run Wine to get Netflix, but it doesn't support running x86 code on our arm processors. So no netflix on your Linux tablet regardless of sound. YouTube is a whole other can of worms. While the code for chromium and Firefox are capable of decoding h.264, it violates patent law to distribute compiled binaries. So incomplete support for all the videos. Sorry.
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Netflix doesn't work ATM for Linux. It uses silverlight which wouldn't be so bad, but the Linux implementation lacks DRM. You need to run Wine to get Netflix, but it doesn't support running x86 code on our arm processors. So no netflix on your Linux tablet regardless of sound. YouTube is a whole other can of worms. While the code for chromium and Firefox are capable of decoding h.264, it violates patent law to distribute compiled binaries. So incomplete support for all the videos. Sorry.
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Which is why you dual boot with android. Or just use android. Android can do all of those things. I actually don't see a huge advantage for using Linux. Sure there are other apps and capabilities but if you have the know how to put Linux on it you probably have a computer running Linux already. Why not use splashtop or teamviewer for remote desktop? Those work 100%. Somebody change my mind. So far I see only cons to using Linux on our tablet.
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Which is why you dual boot with android. Or just use android. Android can do all of those things. I actually don't see a huge advantage for using Linux. Sure there are other apps and capabilities but if you have the know how to put Linux on it you probably have a computer running Linux already. Why not use splashtop or teamviewer for remote desktop? Those work 100%. Somebody change my mind. So far I see only cons to using Linux on our tablet.
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Because it's there. Same reason people climb mountains.
There are practical reasons, though. It allows it to be much more of a general purpose computer. I like my Linux laptop, but the only reason I get it out anymore is to burn DVDs ( does android have DVD +R drivers?). I miss it, though. If I have Linux running on my tablet, it would allow me to run to my regular desktop applications. I could run a full office suite on my tablet I could browse the web with a full browser, I could do a lot more things than I currently can. It would make me a lot more productive. Combine that with the incredible battery life of a tablet and I think you have a winner.
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Hmmm. I don't know. I'm not really convinced. You can have full office apps for tablets, and you can do everything in the browsers on tablets that you can on PCs.
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Hmmm. I don't know. I'm not really convinced. You can have full office apps for tablets, and you can do everything in the browsers on tablets that you can on PCs.
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I have three of the major office suites for android installed on my tablet right now (Polaris, OfficeSuite 7,and Documents to Go) . They are NOT complete. There is a lot you cannot do, especially in the word processing software (rotate text, anyone?). What you can do is rather awkward. It's not quite the same.
As for browsers, I miss my chrome plug-ins. Firefox allows a subset of the plug-ins to work, but doesn't integrate well with the rest of Android.
I miss these things, but not enough to get out my laptop and power it on. My tablet is "good enough." If it ran a native Linux environment, however, I would not need to make these tradeoffs.
I do like your splashtop viewer idea, though. It's one I've toyed with. I just need to get around to installing Ubuntu on my home server. Not everyone has a PC that they can run 24/7, though.
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I was under the impression that Netflix moved to HTML5. Remember reading article upon article about how Linux users finally got Netflix. I've been running Linux for years, but up until recently, I havent been using my desktop because I had either an android phone or tablet; it was just more convenient than to run to my aging emachine and boot up slack or gentoo. Correct me if I'm wrong about the html5 thing though lol
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I was under the impression that Netflix moved to HTML5. Remember reading article upon article about how Linux users finally got Netflix. I've been running Linux for years, but up until recently, I havent been using my desktop because I had either an android phone or tablet; it was just more convenient than to run to my aging emachine and boot up slack or gentoo. Correct me if I'm wrong about the html5 thing though lol
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You're right on the html5 move for netflix but wrong on it working under linux. Still no support for linux because even though theyre moving/moved to html5, theres still other things it uses that arent available in linux browsers yet.
http://liliputing.com/2013/06/netfl...ows-8-1-still-nothing-official-for-linux.html
If you dont see the point in linux on the tf300t, try it out for an hour then reboot back into android and feel how restricted it feels. These devices have the capability of running a full desktop operating system so why not? the key thing here is multitasking (and the ability to move windows around the screen)
As for html5 it is really terrible on the tf300t, if you look on page 13 of the xubuntu development thread u'll find a working arm flash plugin taken from a chromebook, it work very well, youtube is even usable
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Any chance we'll see a vnc of this os? I know it was done on the samsung epic which obviously is far less hardware than this beast right here . Big ubuntu fan, as I'm hoping most of us are here. I'd love to help with this project, just don't know where to start. I'm assuming that we need SD enabled first though.
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do you mean get ubuntu on the Xoom? or VNC to ubuntu?
I don't think you know what VNC is.
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I don't think you know what VNC is.
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On my epic, I was able to use androidvnc to boot up ubuntu with a server login and such after I placed the file on my SD. So i am quite aware what vnc is in reference to this thread. Either way, i'd be stoked. Vnc is probably easier than finding a way to partition then dual boot, but lagginess and quality will be sacrificed. I was just curious as to how to get this done. Asking for help, not snide remarks
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A vnc client simply connects to a vnc server (running on almost any operating system) to display over the network. So I am confused as to why you would need storage space, or to 'boot up' anything on the xoom.
There are VNC apps on the market, have you tried them?
Vnc itself has nothing to do with running another OS inside another OS.
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Is it possible??? nexuS one and Htc EVO can do it ???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN4c61ETCWg&feature=player_embedded#at=
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iM GONNA try it wish me luck
goodluck! post back with results asap
Yea good luck
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It is possible, and I have successfully done it. It is not very useful though. But we are not always interested in usefulness, now are we?
Anyway, google "Desire HD Linux" and I believe it is one of the first, if not the first, links. Similar method geared toward the Desire HD, which is almost identical to our device internally. It works.
Question, but isn't that just VNC?
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Question, but isn't that just VNC?
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i'm pretty sure vnc just lets you view your computer at home, or view your screen when you're away.
Do you even know why you would want Ubuntu? Is it for the GUI, our for a better bash shell?
If you look around (I accidentally found this only a week ago) you can find Debian images for the android that they have had out since the G1. And they work on the MT4G.
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i'm pretty sure vnc just lets you view your computer at home, or view your screen when you're away.
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Which this essentially is in the video you even install vnc lol
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now the real shocker would be if we could put windows mobile on our mt4g or dual boot either 2 android roms or windows mobile and android.
Question, but isn't that just VNC?
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Yes, it uses VNC. It is used since there are no video drivers available for Linux on this platform, which is difficult due to the lack of code/documentation from Qualcomm. Ubuntu is actually running on the phone's hardware through a chroot shell, and VNC connects to the local host via a socket connection to provide the display. Just a way for the display to be displayed, if you will.
Seeing the development going on I think it might be possible. If someone can get it working we can put Bodhi Linux (bodhilinux.org) on it with its great tablet interface.
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Anyone. Sorry for not saying anything i was at a retreat. Kill me now
Really no one?
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Buddy wait for sometime for other's to respond.
your post was on weekend.
Regarding Debian / Ubuntu / BT / Bodhi is concerned,
I am trying to do something missing one critical component i.e. KF.
as soon as i get my hands on it, will help you all in doing the bootup (atleast chroot)
in the mean time what exactly do you mean when you say ( its great tablet interface.)
Look on their website. www.bodhilinux.com/gallerysystem.php#6
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Look on their website. www.bodhilinux.com/gallerysystem.php#6
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Ooh I use E17 on my netbook
I would love to see it on my tablet
Hello playmobot, i try the article you provided the link, but it does not work on my Kindle Fire ...
The link should just bring up a picture of what Bodhi Linux's tablet interface looks like.
I would love Ubuntu on my kindle. That would change everything (again)
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I would love Ubuntu on my kindle. That would change everything (again)
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for Ubuntu http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1028464
try these scripts marked as x10i only but they should work seemlessly on any android device.
for backtrack also you can refer
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074169 (BT checked and found to be working atleast by one kindle owner.)
I must admit as much as I do not like the Unity interface that Ubuntu has moved to on my desktop or laptop it does look like it would be amazing on a tablet.
I am sure this is what they had in mind with it when they designed it.
I will wait for the future after phones start doing the whole dual boot Android and Ubuntu and go to Ubuntu when you dock them.
I am sure this will make running Ubuntu on phones/tablets a lot more common, but only time will tell.
I heard that Canniocal is working on a version of Ubuntu for tablets. But its stand alone for OEMs so it may take some time to get it working on an android device
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Seeing the development going on I think it might be possible. If someone can get it working we can put Bodhi Linux (bodhilinux.org) on it with its great tablet interface.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1806770
Curious as to how hard it would be to get XBMC running on Android or a Ubuntu build on our TF101s or something of that nature.
From what I understand for Android it needs a rom built from the ground up to make XBMC work with it. I know its possible to run Ubuntu on our TFs, and XBMC is available in an Ubuntu build, so in theory we should be able to get this going I would think.
I'm a noob, not a dev or anyone remotely capable of pulling this off. I'm just someone who sees the amazing potential of XBMC and android devices.
Well that isn't going to happen, or you're willing to pay for it.
This is an good alternative :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nshdFqJdEY&feature=youtube_gdata_player
I currently have Backtrack 5 running, I'm trying another build of it...just waiting for adb to finish pushing the files.
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mind sharing how you got bt5 going?
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moto211 said:
mind sharing how you got bt5 going?
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Not at all!
There are several methods available, I used this:
Check out "Backtrack Installer Free" - http://bit.ly/KCR9N9
This method requires 3 - 4 gigs of space on the SD card directions are straight forward.
Once started it will ask you for the desired screen resolution. I found 1280x745 to be the best fit.
That way BT fits on the screen with no need to scroll its desktop to see top and bottom dock bars.
If you go directly to the BT website you can download another image of BT that seems to be only a gig!
You have to select the arm version, gnome, and img file to get it.
But it is designed to work with the Xoom and needs tweaks to run.
I'm still working on getting this version to boot.....when I have time....
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Not at all!
There are several methods available, I used this:
Check out "Backtrack Installer Free" - http://bit.ly/KCR9N9
Once started it will ask you for the desired screen resolution. I found 1280x745 to be the best fit.
That way BT fits on the screen with no need to scroll its desktop to see top and bottom dock bars.
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If you install a hide bar app like gesture control you can run it at the full 1280x800
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If you install a hide bar app like gesture control you can run it at the full 1280x800
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True, but I like having my bar at the bottom. Its my own personal tweak
I'm going to hack the script so I don't even have to enter a resolution.
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BT seems very interesting but what does it have to do with XMBC? Could it be run on that?
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BT seems very interesting but what does it have to do with XMBC? Could it be run on that?
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Well, from the original post:
"Curious as to how hard it would be to get XBMC running on Android or a Ubuntu build on our TF101s or something of that nature."
Backtrack is based off Ubuntu, its running on the TF101. So my response was more on the lines of providing the "something of that nature" option to be explored.
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XBMC would need to be compiled for the ARM architecture.
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Xmbc is coming to android soon.
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I was just about to post that, I'm so stoked to see how it turns out!
I have this iPhone 4 that I don't use, and I remember from something I read (probably an official Mozilla forum) about the iPhone being supported but I can't find the page again. I was wondering if anyone knew about a port of Firefox OS for the iPhone 4?
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I really don't see how it would be possible to run Firefox os on an I phone because i believe is based in Linux and would require a Linux kernel. I'm pretty sure that iOS devices are not based in Linux so you would need a new motherboard compatible with the I phone hardware that ran android
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I think there' s no possibilty to see firefox on iPhone!
It makes sense that it wouldn't work, but I thought iOS was UNIX based?
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I'm really not sure if it is Unix or linux based since I don't really do anything with Firefox os but either way there's no way I would run on an iphone
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Aside from needing drivers for the hardware (which I imagine isn't completely proprietary to the iOS hardware), FFXOS needs an unlocked bootloader to work.
I'm not entirely sure the bootloader on any iOS device has been successfully replaced yet.
Why dont you sell the iphone and buy a Nexus instead? Fully supported by Mozilla and a Tier 1 device.
it's impossible
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linr76 said:
Why dont you sell the iphone and buy a Nexus instead? Fully supported by Mozilla and a Tier 1 device.
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Great idea. I have a nexus 5 and firefox OS works really food on it.
Well I know this forum is very old but I found video on Youtube, but still I don't know how he do it as it in Japanese language
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLqzSr-xjBE
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Well I know this forum is very old but I found video on Youtube, but still I don't know how he do it as it in Japanese language
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLqzSr-xjBE
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He is using a VNC app (you can tell because the mouse pointer)
So it is not on iPhone...
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