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[Request] Disabling the capacitive buttons while writing on the Note

I am not sure how others take notes and avoid this issue, but when I attempt to take notes on the Note, almost always my palm touches the "Menu" or the "Back" capacitive button and the note in progress either gets saved or cancelled.
I was looking forward to writing on the note extensively for note-taking, but it seems impossible with the palm touching the capacitive buttons. Would a developer with know-how on this subject look into disabling the capacitive buttons while taking notes with the S Pen and the palm placed on the screen, or devise another solution? Thanks for exploring this issue in advance.
Please note:
Anyone commenting on this thread, I appreciate your intentions, but please DO NOT suggest ANY OTHER APP. I am purely focused on the S Note and Memo apps.

Well there is a way to disable the buttons on many roms already. Are you talking about a way to do it while unrooted? And are you trying to keep the touchwiz interface and use the smemo app??

No, You can turn the light off, but the button sup works. I think he wants to disable then completely.
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btyork said:
No, You can turn the light off, but the button sup works. I think he wants to disable then completely.
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Yes, I was wondering if the buttons can be disabled completely while taking notes, regardless of the ROM. Taking notes while the palm is lifted off the screen is just not natural and am not sure how Samsung saw people writing like that.
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incisivekeith said:
I am not sure how others take notes and avoid this issue, but when I attempt to take notes on the Note, almost always my palm touches the "Menu" or the "Back" capacitive button and the note in progress either gets saved or cancelled.
I was looking forward to writing on the note extensively for note-taking, but it seems impossible with the palm touching the capacitive buttons. Would a developer with know-how on this subject look into disabling the capacitive buttons while taking notes with the S Pen and the palm placed on the screen, or devise another solution? Thanks for exploring this issue in advance.
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There are few apps in the market that have palm reject feature. This will disable the capacitive buttons.
Even the standard s memo should have this feature.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24989757&postcount=4537
here is a script to disable the capitative buttons, it works perfectly on stunners rom ( haven't tried on any others ) and with the euphoria control you can disable the lights so those buttons are gone forever

I think this issue has been addressed in the new ICS stock ROM. For example, if you use your finger to press the capacitive button in S Memo, the button will work as intended. But if you place your entire palm on the right-lower part of the screen (including the capacitive button), the button doesn't respond. I just tried writing a long note with my palm resting on the screen and the capacitive button, and the app was working fine.)
I don't know if it makes a difference, but in the S Memo settings, I had set the screen to only respond to S Pen edits. Just FYI.

yyl said:
I think this issue has been addressed in the new ICS stock ROM. For example, if you use your finger to press the capacitive button in S Memo, the button will work as intended. But if you place your entire palm on the right-lower part of the screen (including the capacitive button), the button doesn't respond. I just tried writing a long note with my palm resting on the screen and the capacitive button, and the app was working fine.)
I don't know if it makes a difference, but in the S Memo settings, I had set the screen to only respond to S Pen edits. Just FYI.
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Setting the screen to respond to just the pen helps a lot actually, but as you slide down while writing, the palm becomes less of a palm surface and touches the back button and the note gets saved. So it would greatly help of someone can disable the capacitive buttons altogether until some action is taken to wake them up.
The script suggested in the post above seems like an option but a simpler solution would be great.
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incisivekeith said:
I am not sure how others take notes and avoid this issue, but when I attempt to take notes on the Note, almost always my palm touches the "Menu" or the "Back" capacitive button and the note in progress either gets saved or cancelled.
I was looking forward to writing on the note extensively for note-taking, but it seems impossible with the palm touching the capacitive buttons. Would a developer with know-how on this subject look into disabling the capacitive buttons while taking notes with the S Pen and the palm placed on the screen, or devise another solution? Thanks for exploring this issue in advance.
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It will be nice if someone can help to disable this annoying button.

There's no way to detect the palm everywhere - it would require quite a few painful changes in AOSP.
There is obviously a way to disable capacitive buttons totally, but you'd need to reboot to toggle.

As I said before since the later releases of GB rom , when using s memo , there is an auto detect feature which rejects palm and also disables the capacitive buttons.
Try pressing the capacitive button with the s pen close to the screen.
@Galaxy Note™…

aalupatti said:
As I said before since the later releases of GB rom , when using s memo , there is an auto detect feature which rejects palm and also disables the capacitive buttons.
Try pressing the capacitive button with the s pen close to the screen.
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I confirm. I'm on official ics and the capacitive buttons are disabled when the pen is too close to the screen (and it's anywhere not only in smemo)

Now, I got the trick. Usually I put my palm before the pen reaches the screen.
User should put the pen then they can put his palm wherever he wants, nothing will happen both buttons are disabled.
TEST in ICS official LPY.
Thanks a lot.

Damn ... This was what i trying to say from the begining...

yyl said:
I think this issue has been addressed in the new ICS stock ROM. For example, if you use your finger to press the capacitive button in S Memo, the button will work as intended. But if you place your entire palm on the right-lower part of the screen (including the capacitive button), the button doesn't respond. I just tried writing a long note with my palm resting on the screen and the capacitive button, and the app was working fine.)
I don't know if it makes a difference, but in the S Memo settings, I had set the screen to only respond to S Pen edits. Just FYI.
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Thanks buddy. Now I can take notes with my palm resting.
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iT iS Me said:
Now, I got the trick. Usually I put my palm before the pen reaches the screen.
User should put the pen then they can put his palm wherever he wants, nothing will happen both buttons are disabled.
TEST in ICS official LPY.
Thanks a lot.
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I understand what you and alupatti are saying but when I am writing on the screen, the palm will slide down and it's not always you can focus on placing your pen first on the screen.
Thanks xplodwild for your input, too, as a developer. It just seems like a case of poor design which we are stuck with, unfortunately, until there is a real solution.
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incisivekeith said:
I understand what you and alupatti are saying but when I am writing on the screen, the palm will slide down and it's not always you can focus on placing your pen first on the screen.
Thanks xplodwild for your input, too, as a developer. It just seems like a case of poor design which we are stuck with, unfortunately, until there is a real solution.
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The pen need not be on the screen. It activates when the pen is a few mm away from the screen

It might look silly but consider taking notes with your phone upside down. That way the evil capacitive buttons won't get in the way

Disable buttons
Check my sig....flashable zip to disable and re-enable the back and menu button.
Doesn't affect the lights, just the functionality of the buttons.

@tremeron. Do you think your disable buttons flash zip can be adapted like a on/off switch on toggle bar or somehing like that?

pen only mode please!!

If anyone is using the device as a drawing tablet, this would be very helpful. Let me explain why.
I downloaded the autodesk sketchbook, the application works great, but better if there is an option to completely shut off the touch input because in real life while drawing we do not want hand accidentally touch the canvas and leave any unwanted marks on the work. I know the tablet automatically disable touch input while the pen is within a certain distance, but the distance is only about 1.5 cm (too short !!). My hand always touches the screen and leaves unwanted marks while painting. Someone already suggested that wearing a glove while working, well, that's only a temporary solution. I would assume most artists would not want to paint with gloves on because it just does not feel right.
To sum it up, I would suggest an option to activate "pen only mode" while the pen is not in the pen slot would be perfect!

zoomincn said:
To sum it up, I would suggest an option to activate "pen only mode" while the pen is not in the pen slot would be perfect!
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When the pen icon (blue, in the upper right corner) is selected it serves the same function in S-Note.

Thank you for mentioning this, but this function seems to be S-note only. It does not work in other application while it's turned on in S-note...

I think he's asking for a pen-only mode on a system level.

I think it probably has to be implemented within different programs by the developers. I did notice how effective it was within S-note, though.
otherwise my finger was randomly creating Marks and lines as I was zooming in and out.
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It's something that could be implemented at the OS level if for example CyanogenMod wanted to make it a feature. That's a pretty clever idea actually and wouldn't be too hard to implement. I don't know if mainline CM would accept it but it could always be in an unofficial build.
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On my N8000, the screen does not accept finger input when and as long as the S-Pen is in range of the screen (point marker enabled, point marker visible on screen)

The Lenovo Thinkpad Tablet got it implemented with an update to ICS.
Maybe Samsung can do that to ?

Someone should suggest this to Samsung some how. Maybe having a toggle in the notification bar would be handy.
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crystalstylez said:
Someone should suggest this to Samsung some how. Maybe having a toggle in the notification bar would be handy.
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That would be perfect.
I found the pen works much better when "Battery Saving" is checked in the Pen options. Before that I was having issues with it getting confused between my fingers and the pen even when the pen was docked.

Lecture notes has this feature as well. It's pretty cool! You can use your fingers for scrolling and zooming and it won't leave any marks on the paper. The pen writes and draws, and your fingers zoom and navigate. It works amazingly well. Hopefully in the future more apps will have this feature enabled.

I wish S-Note had Locked Zoom.

they are times when I don't want note to zoom in because my palm registered before my s-pen did. It's only and I can't believe this wasn't a default option on ALL S-PEN. The s-pen gives unparalled accuracy so I like to use it non-zoom and write small.

There's an option to enable 'palm check.' At least on my Note 2, which I assume is similar. Waiting on my N8000.
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Yeah, I agree. I think I will just buy a glove though that covers my palm. I still want the ability to zoom, but I Just don't want it happening when I'm trying to lay down lines for art.

DammitCubs said:
they are times when I don't want note to zoom in because my palm registered before my s-pen did. It's only and I can't believe this wasn't a default option on ALL S-PEN. The s-pen gives unparalled accuracy so I like to use it non-zoom and write small.
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Spot on. I I have the same complaint. Along with lack of toolbar hiding. Snote seemed to go a little backward...
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gordonzhao said:
There's an option to enable 'palm check.' At least on my Note 2, which I assume is similar. Waiting on my N8000.
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I'm not quite sure what you're meaning by palm check, there is a function for "SPen only" but that one only disables the one finger touch that is for drawing etc. Disable the multitouch for zooming and pan however, isn't possible in SNote at this point.
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Spot on. I I have the same complaint. Along with lack of toolbar hiding. Snote seemed to go a little backward...
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It really has! Even the math and shape recognizer function isn't working properly anymore and to remove the so useful function "hide action bar", what the f... iretruck where they thinking?
Anyone having problem with SNote, please contact Samsung and tell them about it and demand a solution. Hopefully with enough people complaining, Samsung will realize that the new SNote isn't any good and change it. Preferably allow us to downgrade SNote to the precious, working version.
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Axel_ said:
Anyone having problem with SNote, please contact Samsung and tell them about it and demand a solution. Hopefully with enough people complaining, Samsung will realize that the new SNote isn't any good and change it. Preferably allow us to downgrade SNote to the precious, working version.
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I agree. Samsung keep developing the device and they have not look into their most important application. Are they even serious with their consumer? Sigh..

agree! I found it really annoying everytime I use it to take notes. There should be a lock zoom mode in the s note setting.

I agree that S-note could have a few features like locked zoom and hide toolbar... those would be great. I like the new snote though. I dont think you guys should call Samsung to complain, just suggest. Maybe someone on xda can release a downgrade apk?
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Sv: I wish S-Note had Locked Zoom.
younix258 said:
I agree that S-note could have a few features like locked zoom and hide toolbar... those would be great. I like the new snote though. I dont think you guys should call Samsung to complain, just suggest. Maybe someone on xda can release a downgrade apk?
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Or just a two finger zoom that actually worked and not recognized the hand, just like the old version. Just of curiosity, what do you like better with the new one? Do you maybe have a different version of the new SNote that actually works?
That's what I'm hoping as well but there are a couple of different threads around an so far nothing has really come out of them.
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Axel_ said:
Or just a two finger zoom that actually worked and not recognized the hand, just like the old version. Just of curiosity, what do you like better with the new one? Do you maybe have a different version of the new SNote that actually works?
That's what I'm hoping as well but there are a couple of different threads around an so far nothing has really come out of them.
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I have the snote that came with jb 4.1.2 US n8013. The UI feels alot faster, the spen button to switch to eraser is an awesome feature. It also switches from formula match to eraser and then Back to formula match which is very good since id always make the mistake of going to pen and losing my formula. I cant think of anythinf else atm but i can tell you that apart from the zoom, i havent had major issues with it.
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Sv: I wish S-Note had Locked Zoom.
younix258 said:
I have the snote that came with jb 4.1.2 US n8013. The UI feels alot faster, the spen button to switch to eraser is an awesome feature. It also switches from formula match to eraser and then Back to formula match which is very good since id always make the mistake of going to pen and losing my formula. I cant think of anythinf else atm but i can tell you that apart from the zoom, i havent had major issues with it.
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Well that explains it, I run the 4.1.1 version of Android and that comes with a different version of SNote than yours and the 4.1.1 version just doesn't work properly. I really hope that we get the 4.1.2 version of SNote as well since it seems to work much better than our.
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Simple trick to Lock the zoom
Hi,
When I'm writing using S Note, I lock the zoom by using my other hand's 3 fingers to touch the screen.
when you write the usual way, you will notice that it will not have any annoying zoom anymore.
hope it works for everyone too.

sanoy said:
Hi,
When I'm writing using S Note, I lock the zoom by using my other hand's 3 fingers to touch the screen.
when you write the usual way, you will notice that it will not have any annoying zoom anymore.
hope it works for everyone too.
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So if you're right handed. You use your left hand's 3 fingers and hold the screen while write with your right hand? That sounds like a pain. When I take notes I just make sure the spen is sensed before I put my palm down and no zoom. Takes some getting use to or make it a habit.
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I discover how to dont zoom with hand on display
When you want to write with hand on display, you must first do this: put your thumb to the corner and THEN you must start write and put your palm on display in one time! since that your moves of hand display doesnt recognize and doesnt zoom, you can go to another list but you must have your thumb on display all the time or do it again (put hand and write in one time). Its not 100% but usually works and have thumb in corner isnt so annoying. . .

It requires root, but I added 'Disable finger input' action to my spen control app. It disables all finger touch (and capacitive buttons on Note 1 and 2) until you execute this action again or turn screen off. I implemented this after I got tired of accidental zooming on Note 10 and hitting capacitive back or menu on Note 1. My drawing experience is completely different now. Needless to say, S Pen is fully working in this mode and it disable finger input in all apps, not just S Note.
Do you think its worth making a separate application just for this? It would still require root .

StupidIdea said:
It requires root, but I added 'Disable finger input' action to my spen control app. It disables all finger touch (and capacitive buttons on Note 1 and 2) until you execute this action again or turn screen off. I implemented this after I got tired of accidental zooming on Note 10 and hitting capacitive back or menu on Note 1. My drawing experience is completely different now. Needless to say, S Pen is fully working in this mode and it disable finger input in all apps, not just S Note.
Do you think its worth making a separate application just for this? It would still require root .
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That would be a blessing. I purchased your Gesture Control app and is really helpfull to hide the Nav bar and prevent the annoying Notification bar from showing every time I'm writting within SNote. Maybe you could make a setting within your app to block any hand touch within the S Note app. The only issue I have is that I have to add S Note to blacklist to prevent gesture control from executing accidentaly within S Note. I haven't got the Spen app yet. Do you think the S Pen gesture app would add a convenient way to go back to home screen without having to turn the screen on and off, in order get the Nav bar back?
I really recommend Gesture Control and S Pen Control. Those are one the top 5 five apps we must have for our Galaxy Note 10.1
Samsung screwed up big time with S Note hand detection.
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younix258 said:
I have the snote that came with jb 4.1.2 US n8013. The UI feels alot faster, the spen button to switch to eraser is an awesome feature. It also switches from formula match to eraser and then Back to formula match which is very good since id always make the mistake of going to pen and losing my formula. I cant think of anythinf else atm but i can tell you that apart from the zoom, i havent had major issues with it.
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I have the US version of the N8013 too. I had mine just rooted before the update, i did the 4.1.2 update and haven't found a way to configure the S Pen button to work as an eraser within the S Note app. I even spent $40 to buy the S Pen with eraser so I wouldn't have to click back and forth between eraser and writting mode from the top bar. Pardon me if I've being a Dumb Ass!!! If a press twice the button it goes into brush mode, if press it once thereafter, it goes to marker mode, and after that if I press the button once, it switches back and forth between brush and Marker mode, but never goes back to regular pencil mode unless I reach the top bar and change it back that way. I checked for pen settings under S Note settings and general settings, and I just can't find anything to configure the S Pen button to perform a particular action.
I didn't do a factory reset after the update. Do you think this could be the reason, and maybe I'm just having bugs due to it?
Maybe I have do a complete factory restore, any suggestion on Stock base rom with full S Note functionality?

sgndroid1 said:
That would be a blessing. I purchased your Gesture Control app and is really helpfull to hide the Nav bar and prevent the annoying Notification bar from showing every time I'm writting within SNote. Maybe you could make a setting within your app to block any hand touch within the S Note app. The only issue I have is that I have to add S Note to blacklist to prevent gesture control from executing accidentaly within S Note. I haven't got the Spen app yet. Do you think the S Pen gesture app would add a convenient way to go back to home screen without having to turn the screen on and off, in order get the Nav bar back?
I really recommend Gesture Control and S Pen Control. Those are one the top 5 five apps we must have for our Galaxy Note 10.1
Samsung screwed up big time with S Note hand detection.
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You can download spen control (trial) from thread in my signature and it has 'disable finger input' action. I don't want to expand on other features as this is not the right thread, but spen app allows you to execute all actions similar way to gesture control, just gestures are executed with spen. I'm just wondering if it is worth making root app that just does this one action - disable/enable finger input.

sgndroid1 said:
That would be a blessing. I purchased your Gesture Control app and is really helpfull to hide the Nav bar and prevent the annoying Notification bar from showing every time I'm writting within SNote. Maybe you could make a setting within your app to block any hand touch within the S Note app. The only issue I have is that I have to add S Note to blacklist to prevent gesture control from executing accidentaly within S Note. I haven't got the Spen app yet. Do you think the S Pen gesture app would add a convenient way to go back to home screen without having to turn the screen on and off, in order get the Nav bar back?
I really recommend Gesture Control and S Pen Control. Those are one the top 5 five apps we must have for our Galaxy Note 10.1
Samsung screwed up big time with S Note hand detection.
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I have the US version of the N8013 too. I had mine just rooted before the update, i did the 4.1.2 update and haven't found a way to configure the S Pen button to work as an eraser within the S Note app. I even spent $40 to buy the S Pen with eraser so I wouldn't have to click back and forth between eraser and writting mode from the top bar. Pardon me if I've being a Dumb Ass!!! If a press twice the button it goes into brush mode, if press it once thereafter, it goes to marker mode, and after that if I press the button once, it switches back and forth between brush and Marker mode, but never goes back to regular pencil mode unless I reach the top bar and change it back that way. I checked for pen settings under S Note settings and general settings, and I just can't find anything to configure the S Pen button to perform a particular action.
I didn't do a factory reset after the update. Do you think this could be the reason, and maybe I'm just having bugs due to it?
Maybe I have do a complete factory restore, any suggestion on Stock base rom with full S Note functionality?
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I'm having the same issue (same version tablet) too.... quite annoying that you cannot find configuration for the S pen in it's most used app. It would be great if I could create a toggle between eraser and pencil/pen mode but nothing seems to do that.

Get the lecturenotes app from market and no more S note annoyance !!!
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[WHINE] – Why a hardkey instead of softkey for “home” button

I don't like the hardkey. It feels different to press than a softkey. It takes longer to press and takes me out of my rythm. Therefore I tend not to use it as much (have built some alternate shortcut gestures into my launcher and my Notification Toggle setup).
Also from what I have seen softkeys last longer than hardkeys... the softkeys have no mechanical parts to wear out.
The whole thing bugs me, but I think I'd feel better if I understood WHY this design decision was made...
So can anyone explain the ADVANTAGES of having a hardkey home button?

electricpete1 said:
I don't like the hardkey. It feels different to press than a softkey. It takes longer to press and takes me out of my rythm. Therefore I tend not to use it as much (have built some alternate shortcut gestures into my launcher and my Notification Toggle setup).
Also from what I have seen softkeys last longer than hardkeys... the softkeys have no mechanical parts to wear out.
The whole thing bugs me, but I think I'd feel better if I understood WHY this design decision was made...
So can anyone explain the ADVANTAGES of having a hardkey home button?
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I prefer a hard key for the exact opposite of what you said.
BTW, why do you own a S4 ???
The day I cant buy an Android phone with a real home button will be the day Ill switch to something else.

Switching from the straight talk galaxy S2 to the S4 took me a bit to get use to as the S2 didn't have a hard key.... but I like the hard key better.... I think its more of a personal preference than anything
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I miss the HTC Amaze.. Power, camera, and volume were the only buttons on the phone.
I miss the smooth glass home button at the bottom of the screen between the menu and back buttons
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Softkey takes screen real estate, but, will relocate landscape to portrait. When a major crash occurs softkey will not work. Softkey is more suscptable to accidental presses.
Hardkey has a completely different tactile feel.
This is one of many reasons why I prefer Samsung to Nexus. Each to their own.
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I love being able to wake the screen with the menu button. This is much easier when using a case.
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First of all, welcome to the late party.
Second, I hated the hard key also.
Now though, I love the fact that I can "feel" the key without looking for it.
Guess I'd rather have a capacitive key still, but it would need to be a raised button that I can "feel".
Didn't we do this thread like nine months ago?
About fourteen times, back to back threads?

I like the hard key as well. I can turn on the phone using it
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I like the hard key as well. I can turn on the phone using it
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It's amazing how there is no one feature that can please everyone.
I actually have that option disabled on my phone.
Drives me nuts because everytime I pick up my phone, I'd accidentally press that button and the phone would turn on. Or when I wipe down my screen, I'd hit that button and with the next wipe, I'd unlock my phone and inadvertently open an app or something. hahah

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Didn't we do this thread like nine months ago?
About fourteen times, back to back threads?
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Unfortunately, that's about 90% of the threads in this particular forum now.

My bad. I'm new to S4. I didn't search but got the whim to express some frustration in what I thought would be a light-hearted conversational thread. Not the best decision in retrospect. Next time I'll do that on the Off-topic Cafe thread when I get that urge.

I think a big plus of using both a hard key and the touch sensitive keys (I really dislike the soft keys taking screen real estate, if they disappeared for full screen applications, I'd be more supportive – but I digress) is just being able to feel where the touch sensitive keys are without having to look at the phone. Long live the hard key

S-Pen screenshot got more annoying

So I realized with the Note4 taking a screenshot with the Note 4 got a little more annoying.
On the Note3, I can pull out the S-Pen, hold the S-Pen button and press and hold on the screen to screenshot.
This no longer works on the Note4. You need go select from the s-pen functions and it will take the screenshot and make go through a few steps before saving.

I just tried it on my note 3 and it did a screen write, where it took a screen shot and went into a screen edit mode where I can write on the image. So its the same as pressing the button on the stylus and selecting "Screen write". Which is the same on both note 3 and note 4. The only thing that they seem to have taken out is being able to do a screen write by the method you mentioned. Which was redundant anyway. Also that function is now for multi-select like a mouse function. So if you hold the button in email, or gallery, then you can drag the stylus up or diagonally across the screen to select mulitple email or images at one time.
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I like it. Works great
NOTE 4

I understand you wanting to use the spen function but why not just swipe your hand across the screen to take a screenshot, a lot faster imo; just my 2¢...

Or disable option for editing when you take screen shot

My fingers are crossed that gmd or some of the other devs that had previously made tools relative to the spen will get cracking on the newest code. That way we can customize it to whatever we like best. I was thinking the same thing with the screenshot stuff.

Home+power does the trick, no pen required.
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