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hello folks,
iam from germany so it'll be a long time before i get my hands on the evo or the droid x.
so today i read on engadget that android froyo and 2.1 are running stable on the hd2. what about the battery time, is it still an issue? is the android market working?
are there any benchmarks?
I am quit a "poweruser" so are these builds advanced enough for every day use?
thanks
Read this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719646
mooooo2 said:
hello folks,
iam from germany so it'll be a long time before i get my hands on the evo or the droid x.
so today i read on engadget that android froyo and 2.1 are running stable on the hd2. what about the battery time, is it still an issue? is the android market working?
are there any benchmarks?
I am quit a "poweruser" so are these builds advanced enough for every day use?
thanks
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If you want android, get a native android phone. It will be a very long time before it runs as well on the hd2, if ever. There are still several functions not working and it's not nearly as stable as an android phone. It's running stable for a port this early in it's development, but it's still a work in progress. If you want a working android for everyday use now, you will want an android phone.
its not quite there but its getting there if you want android though just get the nexus but i would rather have the big screen and awesome hardware and wait for android because it will get there maybe a month or so
No, I don't believe android will ever be stable on a non-native device. Even on devices that have been developing android to work on them for years have not reached a point of "stability." When they say it's running stable, they mean the OS, not the phone functions. Just get a droid phone if you want droid.
mooooo2 said:
hello folks,
iam from germany so it'll be a long time before i get my hands on the evo or the droid x.
so today i read on engadget that android froyo and 2.1 are running stable on the hd2. what about the battery time, is it still an issue? is the android market working?
are there any benchmarks?
I am quit a "poweruser" so are these builds advanced enough for every day use?
thanks
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Buy the hp for what it is, I bought this phone knowing that it's what it is.
I would buy an Android with 5mp and above, with dual led light, 4.3" screen(this is addictive!), thin design, qwerty keyboard, hdmi out, above 512mb ram, Above 1g processor and lots more beyond mentioning.
But I bought a HD2. Smiles for now.
I'm optimistic about android on the Hd2. I think many people on here will run it as their main OS before the year is over. Since when are factory shipped operating systems so infallible? The shipped WM roms stink compared to the custom roms. In the end its is pointless to speculate on what may or may not happen. My recommendation is to buy the HD2 because it is the best WM phone ever with an exciting android port to play with.
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I'm optimistic about android on the Hd2. I think many people on here will run it as their main OS before the year is over. Since when are factory shipped operating systems so infallible? The shipped WM roms stink compared to the custom roms. In the end its is pointless to speculate on what may or may not happen. My recommendation is to buy the HD2 because it is the best WM phone ever with an exciting android port to play with.
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But he's not looking for the best winmo phone with an android port to play with.... he states he's an android "power user" that needs a very stable version of android with everything working. I'm amazed at how quickly they have got android working on the HD2 and how functional and stable they've got it... but it will be a longtime before it's as stable and functional as a native android phone and has the same battery life as an android phone (android ports are all notorious for having terrible battery lifes... power management is one the last things that get's completely working and stable). I've been playing with android ports for other winmo devices since the kaiser.... not one is completely functional or as stable as a native android phone. If your goal is to use android full-time, there's no point in buying a winmo device hoping it will run android stabily one day... get an android phone. Personally, I love both winmo and android, so I love having a powerful winmo device with an android port in development... it's exciting watching and playing with it as it progresses. But if you don't like winmo, the HD2 is not for you.
Am I the only one excited by this phone? Looks pretty cool, and should be pretty nifty as a secondary device as well as for casual users.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/03/huawei-ideos-hands-on/
$100-200 off-contract price, capacitive screen, all the features of a "real" Android phone... all it needs now is a subforum here on XDA and a port of Cyanogenmod
What do you guys think?
+1, Xda section for that phone would be awesome.
Coz its damn cheap, http://www.techit.in/huawei-ideos-the-cheapest-android-froyo-device-will-hit-india-soon/
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I can hardly wait to see it in Europe.
It's a pity that there are no further information yet about possible providers, exact prices etc.
i'm also waiting for dev to make it rooted! hope xda would support it. it will be a cheap & fun toys to play with
This is the first phone that comes closest to bringing android to the power users who couldn't afford much more then the likes of e63 and e71 who come from countries where you buy the phone on full price..This has just been launched in my country and has been talked about a lot...the only thing stopping me to buy this phone right now is the community support I pray that xda developers understands the potential this phone holds and launch a community forum so I can be rest assured that I can find help.
Last time I frequented this forum was when I owned a pda2k and I held onto my pda2k not because it was so lovely but because I knew all my answers could be had at this forum.
I pray for the same enthusiasm this time around, please let me become a power user once again.
I have the Google / Huawei Ideos phone and loving Android. Would be great if we could get a howto about rooting this phone!
I just got this phone this weekend and upgraded from my (rooted, CM6.1-RC1) G1 that was giving me various kinds of grief and I gotta say, I'm not looking back. This thing is really responsive, has all the bells and whistles of 2.2 and is a really capable little device. My only problem has been the fact that some apps don't show up in the market because the device falls into the low-density small screen category of the market, and apps built against 1.5 or without a supports-screen in the manifest. I've been able to sideload apps that haven't worked without ill effect. I'd love to see root on this, just in case T-Mo decides to OTA remove the Froyo tethering love.
So the speed compares favorably to the G1 with Froyo?
Unless my G1 was acting really funky (which I can't discount, because it was being slow and crashy in recent weeks, even with a fairly fresh install of CM6.1) it's been much more responsive than my G1 was.
EDIT: I'm a fairly hardcore android user, though I don't use any really graphics or super cpu heavy apps, but it's ran everything that I used to have trouble with on my G1 without issue, for instance I couldn't leave an audio app running in the BG, it would end up either dying to getting killed off my the android system.
UPDATE! SuperOneClick works to root the stock ROM on this phone! Just need to add the appropriate string to the ADB Driver.
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UPDATE! SuperOneClick works to root the stock ROM on this phone! Just need to add the appropriate string to the ADB Driver.
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Being a complete noob, but loving the Ideos - what was the appropriate string you added?
I got huawei ideos with android froyo 2.1 from a friend. Is It possible to flash windows mobile rom in this device? If yes where can i get that rom? I do know how to flash windows mobile roms in htc pocket pcs, but not sure about huawei ideos whether it will support windows mobile os or not, and hows this device different from pocket pcs.
SRR.MD said:
I got huawei ideos with android froyo 2.1 from a friend. Is It possible to flash windows mobile rom in this device? If yes where can i get that rom? I do know how to flash windows mobile roms in htc pocket pcs, but not sure about huawei ideos whether it will support windows mobile os or not, and hows this device different from pocket pcs.
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No one will ever develop a custom Windows Mobile ROM for this device. This may only happen if Huawei will launch a Windows Mobile device based on the same (or on a very similar) platform, and that's highly unlikely.
Plus one for this lovely affordable one!
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+1
I like it.
good news for Indian users.......
spice is launching them in india
MI 300 & MI 410
I got the Ideos yesterday for 99 €. It's incredible how good it is with froyo, I'm astonished!
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+1 please.
I think this phone have much and much potential.
+1! Just 99 euro in Italy!
After using WP7 on an HD2 i decided that i kind of LOVE the simplicity of the OS. I love Android and tinkering with things and generally breaking them. But for a simple smartphone that just WORKS i wanted to get something like an HD7 or Titan. My contract isn't up for about 6 months yet!
Looking at the T-Mob website they only have Android, Blackberry and iOS. Oh yeah and Symbian
Anyone got any idea why they don't do WP7 handsets in the UK?
On a side note i'm never moving away from Android but i'll probably pick up a cheap tablet like an Andypad Pro for Android but a WP7 device would my simple smartphone.
Why not try Launcher 7 on your android phone and have the best of both?
I-S said:
Why not try Launcher 7 on your android phone and have the best of both?
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Yeah it's a nice idea and i have the purchased version but i want the full experience. The Twitter and Facebook apps are nice,contacts nice too. I have also looked at the "WP7 Android Project" which have some WP7 app clones but it's still not the same. It's just not as fluid.
Thanks for the suggestion though!
Fair enough - that fluidity is down to the old android 1.x and 2.x stumbling block - GPU acceleration. I do think that WP7 looks an impressive OS and think MS have done a good job with it, but the market results don't really reflect that.
As for answering your original question, presumably T-mob see little market for WP7 in the UK. Vodafone only carry one (LG Optimus 7). Orange seem to have the best lineup with 3 models. Maybe when Nokia get their WP phones out then European carriers will respond more.
Yeah my guess was they didn't see a market for it. And yeah i noticed Orange seem to have a good selection of them i just wanted to stick with T-Mobile. Maybe i will just get the best phone T-Mob offer me and then buy a sim free WP7 device.
Or maybe by the time i upgrade i will want to keep whatever sexy new Android is out
Hello everyone,
i really like the HD2, because you can flash every actual OS from Android to Ubuntu and Windows.
Does the HD2 have any special feature that it supports so many OS, or is it just that developers focused this device specially.
But now the Hardware of the HD2 is getting old. So will there be a new device which be able to be so flexible like the HD2?
+1 ... im interested too
+1 thanks!
Well,If we look back to the history of HD2 , it was born with winmo 6.5 which soon died out.For such a unique and powerful (expensive too) device to just been thrown to dustbin - it was hard for the users,so a lot of interest on how to make it survive - obviously by porting newer OSs.Once it made so , there was no look back ,even now it is one of the most interesting piece for developers.But will there be another HD2 , I don't think so.With so many smart phones in market - more powerful by day ,we will rather move on ...But HD2 development may last as long as its hardware is compatible enough...
win98 said:
Hello everyone,
i really like the HD2, because you can flash every actual OS from Android to Ubuntu and Windows.
Does the HD2 have any special feature that it supports so many OS, or is it just that developers focused this device specially.
But now the Hardware of the HD2 is getting old. So will there be a new device which be able to be so flexible like the HD2?
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hi!
i had an HD2 before, and i loved it. an i still do.
Most of us old HD2 users have upgraded to Sensation (some also to the Desire HD).
The thing is HD2 doesent have any special feature that makes it able to run different things - just a great community with the passion and drive to make all these different OS work. So what you need is a phone thats "popular", which will creat a great community as well.
Ive got the Sensation, and it got plenty of diffrent roms you can install... right now im on Android 4.0.3 with Sense 3.6 - and it runs AWESOMELY! soon we will port the new sense 4.0 also
i hope that Ubuntu would be ported to )
fulltank said:
Well,If we look back to the history of HD2 , it was born with winmo 6.5 which soon died out.For such a unique and powerful (expensive too) device to just been thrown to dustbin - it was hard for the users,so a lot of interest on how to make it survive - obviously by porting newer OSs.Once it made so , there was no look back ,even now it is one of the most interesting piece for developers.But will there be another HD2 , I don't think so.With so many smart phones in market - more powerful by day ,we will rather move on ...But HD2 development may last as long as its hardware is compatible enough...
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i think the hardware will be compatible long time. The matter is, that you cant develop a rom which will have dual core, super amoled display, better resolution, nfc, 4g and so on.
Respect for the HD2 that it could mess up so many years with any new smartphone, but i think in future this will be hard.
So, what i am going to say is, that xda, or (nearly) all developers should focus a new phone for porting rom and that stuff.
For example to wait for a new wp apollo phone, which will support multicore and higher resolution.
If it is just the focus of the developers which made the HD2 so popular, it would be great, to name a newer device as "the next HD2"
(sounds like the next uri geller^^)
I'd like to see the first WP7 dual phone become the next HD2. Most of the current WP7 phones are still single core, and while that's might be good for now, I'd rather have a dual core in my next phone, since I'd probably be using it for a good two years or so. A dual core WP7 phone+Android ports+Ubuntu ports = perfect? I think yes.
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I'd like to see the first WP7 dual phone become the next HD2. Most of the current WP7 phones are still single core, and while that's might be good for now, I'd rather have a dual core in my next phone, since I'd probably be using it for a good two years or so. A dual core WP7 phone+Android ports+Ubuntu ports = perfect? I think yes.
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yeah i want the same.
there are rumours about an hd8 with apollo.
apollo will have new res, nfc and multicore support.
i hope this phone will replace the hd2 with dignity
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Windows-Phone-Powered-HTC-HD8-Emerges-244543.shtml
I don't get it: Why would I need a dual/quadcore? My HD2 works without any lags, I can't find any difference regarding the overall userexperience compared to a SGSII etc. Are the games a main reason for the more powerful hardware?
x911 said:
I don't get it: Why would I need a dual/quadcore? My HD2 works without any lags, I can't find any difference regarding the overall userexperience compared to a SGSII etc. Are the games a main reason for the more powerful hardware?
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Well mine does as well, I'm on ICS and underclocked actually, to 768 Mhz and it's smooth. However, I want to be able to play some more intensive games [ like GTAIII] and whatnot without having to used a dumbed down data for it. Also, while it's not that big a deal for me, it would be kinda nice to be able to play back 1080p video. But for now, my HD2 is still awesome; I have a friend with a Droid X 2 and one with a Droid 3, and there's nothing they can do with their 2011 phone I can't do on my 2009 phone!
win98 said:
yeah i want the same.
there are rumours about an hd8 with apollo.
apollo will have new res, nfc and multicore support.
i hope this phone will replace the hd2 with dignity
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Windows-Phone-Powered-HTC-HD8-Emerges-244543.shtml
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I'm starting my reading up on the skills needed for Android developing, I really wanna take part in making the 'next HD2' as awesome as the current one!
HTC Edge/Endeavour will surely be the next developers phone, no?
I doubt there will ever be such a phone again. The industry is consolidating around two OSs (Android and iOS). Windows Phone has an outside chance of becoming relevant again next year.
I say keep your HD2 going until the Edge/Endeavor comes along. I've got the new Galaxy Nexus and, I must say, the experience of Ice Cream Sandwich on my HD2 is not much different to the Galaxy Nexus with its dual cores. Wait just a little bit longer.
Dont what ever any of you do sell your HD2's I sold mine about a year ago and have been through copious Windows phones, Android Phones even Iphones...nothing comes close to the diversity of this phone, I miss the ability to switch from Android to WP...
The community and development is second to none.
I currently us a Galaxy s2, OK the development is very good for Android Roms, OK its got an amazing screen and very powerful, but really never feels like I am in control of what it can do, I would love to try the WP7.5 but would hate to be restricted to just one operating system, they are all boring after a while, the HD2 allows you so much more
+ 1 from me. HD2 is unique. I love it as it is a member of my family...
THUDUK said:
Dont what ever any of you do sell your HD2's I sold mine about a year ago and have been through copious Windows phones, Android Phones even Iphones...nothing comes close to the diversity of this phone, I miss the ability to switch from Android to WP...
The community and development is second to none.
I currently us a Galaxy s2, OK the development is very good for Android Roms, OK its got an amazing screen and very powerful, but really never feels like I am in control of what it can do, I would love to try the WP7.5 but would hate to be restricted to just one operating system, they are all boring after a while, the HD2 allows you so much more
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ive moved to the galaxy note and have kept the hd2 but wouldnt even entertain using it now, unless something happens to the note
main purpose is that it works, unlike on the hd2 where something dont work or are slow to work due to non native driver support, the devs are fantastic in what they have done for the device, but im actually glad im not swapping/updating roms every week
I wonder to know if the forthcoming android GO, a stripped down version of android for less capable devices, will be (officially or not) ported to my loved TF101g.
I understand that 10 years is a lot of time, but that nifty device, with a wonderful keyboard and pocked with a lot of features, deserve not to be thrown away in the dust bin.
A revival using android go would be awesome, what do you think about ?
marantz777 said:
I wonder to know if the forthcoming android GO, a stripped down version of android for less capable devices, will be (officially or not) ported to my loved TF101g.
I understand that 10 years is a lot of time, but that nifty device, with a wonderful keyboard and pocked with a lot of features, deserve not to be thrown away in the dust bin.
A revival using android go would be awesome, what do you think about ?
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i am interested too and tried ... but no success