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Google Music Deauthorization Limit

Not sure how many of you have seen this on XDA today, but Google has started limiting you to four device deathorizations per year for Google Music. Normally, not such a big deal, but when you flash a ROM twice a week and have to authorize your phone that often, you will be unable to activate Google music on new ROMs until next year.
Here's the main thread in the Gnex forums: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...php?p=26145534
And here's a petition they started about halfway through the thread: http://www.change.org/petitions/goog...rization-limit
I posted this in the Rezound forums, too. Just trying to get everyone aware of this. I don't want to switch to Amazon MP3.

Just signed the petition.
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FYI those links are not working due to the ellipses in the middle of them.
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Can you explain this deauthorization? I flash quite a bit but I don't think I've ever run into that.
As a sidenote, even though I'm still not sure what this limitation is, I wouldn't be too surprised if they'd reset it for you if you ask... kinda like how if you activate a Windows license too many times you have to call them up and say "Yes, it's always been on the same computer" and they'll let you activate. It may just require contacting Google every so often to get a reset (now that Google's Play services actually have customer service)

Each new rom you flash and install/run google music will count as a different DEVICE on your authorized device list.
Aka 10 rom flashes and google music installs = 10 different devices on your account.
They add up rather quickly when you're a flashaholic like me lol
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Google temporarily suspends its deactivation practice in search of a better solution:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/16/3025274/google-music-device-deauthorization-limit-suspended

Div033 said:
Each new rom you flash and install/run google music will count as a different DEVICE on your authorized device list.
Aka 10 rom flashes and google music installs = 10 different devices on your account.
They add up rather quickly when you're a flashaholic like me lol
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Hmmmm. I'm sure you flash more than I do but I know I've flashed much more than 10 times and I've never seen that. Perhaps Titanium Backup plays a part?
Either way, it seems the point is moot now according to slimsnoop's new link... Isn't it great when a company listens to the consumer

Div033 said:
FYI those links are not working due to the ellipses in the middle of them.
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Sorry about that. Google did remove the limit, though, so not much use in fixing it now.

Nfc uses?

I ordered a nexus, but I wanna know, what I can use nfc for?
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This is exactly what I was wondering but was afraid to ask in order not to look like a noob
I mean, I know the basics of the technology, but any good use? I mean, I don't care about NFC tags that I have to glue to my desk, because I already have a better way to turn on wifi automatically or do different stuff (i.e. Setting Profiles uses GPS or GSM location to do these things).
I mean - I have Nexus 7 and Note 2, which both have NFC. I saw some demonstrations concerning file trenasfer between phones and what not... But when I put my Note 2 onto N7, I only hear a beep and that's it... what has to be done i.e. to use NFC to transfer something between these 2 devices? Does this work in combo with Wifi direct?
D.

In am not sure if the note 2 uses the normal beam app built into android or not but I know if I put my nexus s or nexus 4 back to back next to my nexus 7 (nexus s to nexus 4) with say the gallery app opened up it will allow me to beam the image selected to the other device...you can also use it for webpages, contacts and other such shareable items.
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Check out this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp5il7yhM4Y&feature=youtube_gdata_player

lol number 1 use of nfc
when your looking at ....anything, and wanna show a friend put your devices back to back till you hear the beep, then touch the screen on the device you wanna send from,
i can send pics, youtube video urls, webpage urls, mp3's,videos, etc from nfc connection:good:

krobinso2295 said:
Check out this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp5il7yhM4Y&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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You beat me to it

I like that dude's YouTube channel, so thanks for introducing me to it... Ah, Hackintosh, there's a scene I haven't been to involved with since the early leaks of the developer preview of 10.4.3 way back when... (I'm pretty certain I was amongst the first to get it booted on anything other than the developer platform, lol) NFC though, I've not really had much use for it. Got a few devices which support it, my partner's S2 as well, although trying to get the I9100P's party piece working in an I9100 CM10.1 ROM has been hit and miss. I should grab some tags to use for profile switching and app launching on my Nexuses (Nexii?), it seems like the only thing I'm likely to use it for in the short term, at least.

Nfc is a gimmick. I tried to send a pic to my cousin once using nfc. It wouldn't even send it... It said file was too large... Wtf its like a 25kb pic file... Seriously?
Gimmicks gonna gimmick
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Try this thread, or this thread. The Galaxy Nexus forum has a few similar threads that might give you some ideas, too.

Check out this vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN1GFa1DO3k
I like his channel.

Touchless Control?

This feature of the Moto X is one I really want. Any chance we can get this working on on N4?

No
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It's about some kind a chip. Not software.

Kaanu74 said:
It's about some kind a chip. Not software.
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Hmm, I have heard that one before. Remember when Google Now first came out? There will all sorts of rumors that it could only run on certain phones and so forth. Do we have any evidence to point otherwise in this case?

webmaster said:
Hmm, I have heard that one before. Remember when Google Now first came out? There will all sorts of rumors that it could only run on certain phones and so forth. Do we have any evidence to point otherwise in this case?
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I found this one
http://m.androidauthority.com/moto-x-language-processing-chip-238522/
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I'm not a developer but i know enough that its not impossible. It would kill the battery though!
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Given that the MotoX is stock Android with the exception of this feature, I might just get one. I have had the N4 since October (November?) when it first came out.....

Can some1 post it for Nexus 4 ?!
Motorola has made the app available for droids and moto x on Play store ::
See " Touchless Control " on play store ..
or here is the link ... https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.motorola.audiomonitor
Can some1 port it for our lovely nexus 4 ?!?!

Yes please. That would be epic. The only thing I like about Moto X

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.RSen.OpenMic
This is probably the closest we have to Touchless Controls as of now.

As a proud Nexus 4 owner, running the Nexus 5's Google Experience Launcher, and unrooted, I can categorically declare that the Nexus 5's touchless control with the always on "ok google" hotword detection works flawlessly on the Nexus 4.
You need to make sure you have the GEL apk file installed, and the latest play store update of Google Search.
You need to make sure your voice search settings are set to US English (just like on the N5).
Admittedly, if you, like me, installed the packages from the N5 system dump, you would have found that the hotword worked, but the search would crash.
However that seems to be fixed and working perfectly in the latest Play Store Google Search update, which incorporates the GEL in its code.
So you just need those three requirements I've listed above, and the touchless control ought to work perfectly on the Nexus 4.
Well, it is on mine... I've just started using it today, and it has not crashed on me yet! Although, it remains to be seen what a drain on battery it may be...

JC1988AD said:
As a proud Nexus 4 owner, running the Nexus 5's Google Experience Launcher, and unrooted, I can categorically declare that the Nexus 5's touchless control with the always on "ok google" hotword detection works flawlessly on the Nexus 4.
You need to make sure you have the GEL apk file installed, and the latest play store update of Google Search.
You need to make sure your voice search settings are set to US English (just like on the N5).
Admittedly, if you, like me, installed the packages from the N5 system dump, you would have found that the hotword worked, but the search would crash.
However that seems to be fixed and working perfectly in the latest Play Store Google Search update, which incorporates the GEL in its code.
So you just need those three requirements I've listed above, and the touchless control ought to work perfectly on the Nexus 4.
Well, it is on mine... I've just started using it today, and it has not crashed on me yet! Although, it remains to be seen what a drain on battery it may be...
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What they meant is even when the screen is off or using a different app.

eksasol said:
What they meant is even when the screen is off or using a different app.
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I see, my bad, I've seen similar things posted about the N5 as well... People saying the N5's version of touchless control being hardware dependent, and not available on the N4.
Just got over excited about getting it to work on my N4, hah!

JC1988AD said:
I see, my bad, I've seen similar things posted about the N5 as well... People saying the N5's version of touchless control being hardware dependent, and not available on the N4.
Just got over excited about getting it to work on my N4, hah!
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Some MotoX feature is still possible. If you used the latest AOKP nightly (for 4.3) they developed their own ActiveDisplay feature.

ok google

not sure if this has been discussed yet (could not find much in net either) but some say that the ok google voice commands is not available on the htc one m8. i got mine yesterday through telstra (australia) and have everything stock. today by pure accident i discovered that if you hold the home button down an option to swipe up to google appears. also when in lock screen there is a arrow below the lock symbol that does the same thing. it doesnt seem to be always active like other phones but at least it is there and it works.
ps. absolutely love this phone. upgraded from htc one xl (australian 4g one x) and have to say what a massively huge improvement.

You need to say "ok google" from within Google Search/Now then it works, but that also depends on your local language.
The chipset is very capable of running in a low power mode and waking to voice commands "alright m8" would be awesome, but HTC have chosen not to add it or not add it yet.
There doesn't seem to be stock way of customising the swipe up to get to Google now as there was with the One but HTC are very open to feature suggestions!

Electronic Punk said:
You need to say "ok google" from within Google Search/Now then it works, but that also depends on your local language.
The chipset is very capable of running in a low power mode and waking to voice commands "alright m8" would be awesome, but HTC have chosen not to add it or not add it yet.
There doesn't seem to be stock way of customising the swipe up to get to Google now as there was with the One but HTC are very open to feature suggestions!
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So I take it the search widget doesn't work like the Nexus 5 homescreen? The S5 does...

Maybe, I did see someone demonstrate it very quickly but its not a widget I use and did feel inconsistant!
It won't wake up the device as we see on the Moto X at least.

Theres an app called open mic in the app store that lets you wake up pretty much any phone on jb+ via voice command to google search ill text people by talking to my pocket if i put the sensitivity to max but it wakes up to alot no matter what your wakeup phrase is "you can change it.".

You'll be able to activate it from your homescreen if you were to install the GEL launcher. If, however, you wish to keep Sense then you'll either need to do without it or use one of the apps like Open Mic (mentioned above) to do so
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Electronic Punk said:
There doesn't seem to be stock way of customising the swipe up to get to Google now as there was with the One but HTC are very open to feature suggestions!
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Swipe up gives me Google Now on my bone stock M8?
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
Swipe up gives me Google Now on my bone stock M8?
Regards,
Dave
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Correct, but the M7 with its less buttons used to have a few options, this time around you get what you are given

boofhead said:
not sure if this has been discussed yet (could not find much in net either) but some say that the ok google voice commands is not available on the htc one m8. i got mine yesterday through telstra (australia) and have everything stock. today by pure accident i discovered that if you hold the home button down an option to swipe up to google appears. also when in lock screen there is a arrow below the lock symbol that does the same thing. it doesnt seem to be always active like other phones but at least it is there and it works.
ps. absolutely love this phone. upgraded from htc one xl (australian 4g one x) and have to say what a massively huge improvement.
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Can'you add the Google now widget to the home screen? I like that feature. I don't have the m8 (yet)... Just curious.
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stevedebi said:
Can'you add the Google now widget to the home screen? I like that feature. I don't have the m8 (yet)... Just curious.
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Widgets are still avaliable.
What is different is with the M7 with physical buttons, you could swipe up from the home button, or long press depending on your settings.
With the M8 with virtual buttons you just swipe up from the home button just like you do on the nexus devices.
Basically the buttons and google now behave like they do on a nexus.

It's works great haha, I was wondering what can google now do, now it's useful:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

I found this by accident too. I was happy about it.

You can also install the google now launcher if you want it to always be active. The search widget doesn't listen unless yo tap the mike icon.

So how can the S5 have hotword detection active on the touchwiz launcher ? Can that functionality be brought to Sense?

thefoss said:
So how can the S5 have hotword detection active on the touchwiz launcher ? Can that functionality be brought to Sense?
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It's up to the OEM to include that. Samsung decided to make that part of the SOC active for listening while HTC did not, probably out of battery concerns.

bobruels44 said:
It's up to the OEM to include that. Samsung decided to make that part of the SOC active for listening while HTC did not, probably out of battery concerns.
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But it works with the GEL launcher. In the M8. I wonder if it's something a Dev could implement

HTC one Google edition has this if u want that feature buy the Google edition ppl ***** about everything
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daorderdillon said:
THE HTC One Google edition has this, if YOU want that feature buy the Google edition, PEOPLE ***** about everything.
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Not everyone can afford to do that, we're not all rich like you. Can we get a donation from you to help us do that so you won't have to listen to us peasants?

I want to say OK google.

californiarailroader said:
Not everyone can afford to do that, we're not all rich like you. Can we get a donation from you to help us do that so you won't have to listen to us peasants?
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Everyone know it was only $50 more at the time and also everyone know only the Google edition will have that feature if they were reading correctly
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[In Progress] Enabling "OK Google" While Screen if Off [help wanted!]

Friends--
If you're like me, you've found the native 'ok google' prompt to be a much faster / more elegant solution on lollipop than the moto middleman.
We can disable the moto software and enable the google implementation, however we are never given the option for it to work while the screen is off (and unplugged). We know that the hardware is there, so I am assuming that there is a flag somewhere that we need to change.
I'm going to start exploring on my own, but anyone else who can help look / has ideas on where to look, i figured this thread could be a group development project on this.
Looking forward to this!

Anyone have a thought on where to start looking?
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After disabling Moto Voice, go to the Google Settings app -> Search & Now -> Voice -> "Ok Google" Detection.
There you can set "Ok Google" to respond then the device is locked.

tobeannouncd said:
After disabling Moto Voice, go to the Google Settings app -> Search & Now -> Voice -> "Ok Google" Detection.
There you can set "Ok Google" to respond then the device is locked.
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Thanks this works better then the Native Moto App

I still believe it won't work with the screen off and unplugged!!!!

Its possible.
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Selected that and still doesn't work with screen off
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tjarvis said:
Selected that and still doesn't work with screen off
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Sorry, you have to hit the power button first and then it'll work. I forgot about that and couldn't test at the time I posted.
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Yes. So this is exactly my point, and exactly what I'm trying to figure out
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It's terrible and unfair! Motorola says they are giving the "Pure" Android Experience, no bloatware, just adding "Value Added" Software. Thank you Motorola, but give me a CHOICE! If you are FORCING your software on me, you are no better than Verizon!
This phone HAS the Instant On Hardware, and Lollipop Fully supports it. Again, thank you Motorola for your enhancements to Google Now (for those that like them). BUT for those of us that that don't, crippling Android Functionality is NOT the answer!!!
Give it back!!!

Cyber-Anna said:
It's terrible and unfair! Motorola says they are giving the "Pure" Android Experience, no bloatware, just adding "Value Added" Software. Thank you Motorola, but give me a CHOICE! If you are FORCING your software on me, you are no better than Verizon!
This phone HAS the Instant On Hardware, and Lollipop Fully supports it. Again, thank you Motorola for your enhancements to Google Now (for those that like them). BUT for those of us that that don't, crippling Android Functionality is NOT the answer!!!
Give it back!!!
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Then get a different phone that has the hardware....stop your crying.

bongostl said:
Friends--
If you're like me, you've found the native 'ok google' prompt to be a much faster / more elegant solution on lollipop than the moto middleman.
We can disable the moto software and enable the google implementation, however we are never given the option for it to work while the screen is off (and unplugged). We know that the hardware is there, so I am assuming that there is a flag somewhere that we need to change.
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I look forward to your findings. Being able to use Ok Google from the screen off state -while- unplugged would be nice to have. I'd bet dollar to doughnuts that moto disabled the necessary flag in order to allow their Voice middleware to function properly - without giving it the ability to set it back when Voice is disabled.
I think I've read something somewhere about flag 199? It's likely I'm mistaken though.
Good luck!

matt99017d said:
Then get a different phone that has the hardware....stop your crying.
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If you were as smart as your uncalled for, snide comment, you would KNOW it DOES have the hardware!

Cyber-Anna said:
If you were as smart as your uncalled for, snide comment, you would KNOW it DOES have the hardware!
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I realize that it does have the hardware....that is proprietary to Motorola. I was suggesting that you find a different phone that suits your needs.
Your right, it was uncalled for. Just as much as your baby rant.
So, back to being helpful. Have you tried tasker at all? I know there is a way with xposed and tasker, but we don't have xposed as of yet...

Cyber-Anna said:
It's terrible and unfair! Motorola says they are giving the "Pure" Android Experience, no bloatware, just adding "Value Added" Software. Thank you Motorola, but give me a CHOICE! If you are FORCING your software on me, you are no better than Verizon!
This phone HAS the Instant On Hardware, and Lollipop Fully supports it. Again, thank you Motorola for your enhancements to Google Now (for those that like them). BUT for those of us that that don't, crippling Android Functionality is NOT the answer!!!
Give it back!!!
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The hardware in the Moto X 2014 was designed to work with Motorola's implementation of screen-off voice recognition. Unfortunately the phone came out just a little too early to have the "standard" Google implementation since phones supporting that did not start coming out until ~1 month later.

It's not that easy
The X8 processing core in this device comes with a Natural Language Computing Processor NLCP core built in, which is a proprietary low power implementation. Therefore, the software portion that handles the output from the core is custom made by Motorola, and is not something that you find in the Android source tree, because a low power LCP core like the X8 never existed before. Similarly, the 'Ok Google' implementation is Google's proprietary implementation, part of the Google Suite of Applications, only to be installed as add-ons on devices that are compatible with 'Android Compatibility Definition Document'. The apps provided by Google usually do not undergo any OEM customizations.
To conclude, it's not as easy as enabling/ disabling a flag in the Android source to link to proprietary implementations from different vendors together.
P.S - Google's 'Ok Google' may work from from all the screens including a secure lock screen, but it cannot leverage the low power LCP core. This will impact your battery life !!!

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Its possible.
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Yeah got it to work yesterday (with the screen off) for about 2 hours. Then it started not to work at all. Went back to Moto native app and its hit and miss with the app. hopefully it get fix cause its pretty annoying that the reason why i got this phone is because of this feature.

Not only the response is slower and unstable but it is limited to a single person..
Native ok google never fails... Its quicker.. And allows my girlfriend to give commands to the phone on the car along with me...

This thread has a simple tasker profile to do this. http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1rfqsj/psa_note_3_has_always_listening_out_of_the_box/
That doesn't help me, since I would like the option to use both at the same time. What chip is the nexus 6 using, I thought they were close. Both TI dsps right? Would it be possible to trick now into thinking it is on a Nexus 6?

ajanu said:
This thread has a simple tasker profile to do this. http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1rfqsj/psa_note_3_has_always_listening_out_of_the_box/
That doesn't help me, since I would like the option to use both at the same time. What chip is the nexus 6 using, I thought they were close. Both TI dsps right? Would it be possible to trick now into thinking it is on a Nexus 6?
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Its the exact same chip. We should be able to have that feature working on ours as well. We'd have a better chance if we reach out to Motorola to make it possible. Just like switching on the ambient display, they should let us chose between google now or moto voice!