I purchased my N4 straight from google do i still need to select unlock since it's already unlocked?
Virus1x said:
I purchased my N4 straight from google do i still need to select unlock since it's already unlocked?
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Yes after rooting you have to unlock it using boot unlocker app.
Rohit02 said:
Yes after rooting you have to unlock it using boot unlocker app.
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You mean before right?
Virus1x said:
You mean before right?
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NO, I meant AFTER.
See actually I rooted my phone through framaroot and boot unlocker it took hardly 5mins.
Root through Framaroot and then I unlocked the boot as it was giving a message "Waiting for root access"
Don't know about Toolkits. Sorry.
Virus1x said:
I purchased my N4 straight from google do i still need to select unlock since it's already unlocked?
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its two different types of unlocked. the nexus 4 is carrier unlocked, no matter where you buy it. but if you are unlocking the bootloader, thats a completely different thing that you are unlocking.
simms22 said:
its two different types of unlocked. the nexus 4 is carrier unlocked, no matter where you buy it. but if you are unlocking the bootloader, thats a completely different thing that you are unlocking.
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One more question does rooting with tool-kit and giving the device superuser cause issues with updates from google?
I really don't wanna run a custom rom.
also if I check the button USE CUSTOM RECOVERY it will use CWM right?
If u want OTA, don't use custom recovery. Only unlocking and rooting don't mess with OTA.
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mike_24_11 said:
If u want OTA, don't use custom recovery. Only unlocking and rooting don't mess with OTA.
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This is wrong having a custom recovery will not prevent you from receiving or installing the ota update. Its actually better to use a custom recovery because when you update it breaks root and twrp will ask you if you want it restored
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Hello all,
Just a quick rooting question. Is there any reason to unlock the bootloader when rooting? According to some stickies, we can root without unlocking and I was able to root my friend's Captivate without unlocking anything. I am assuming we're unlocking the bootloader since it makes the rooting process easier as a hack isn't required? Thanks!
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It allows you to flash a custom recovery image to go ahead and flash a custom rom and radio
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Hi Dave,
Thanks for the info, but why didn't I need to unlock my friend's Captivate? We were able to get Clockworkmod Recovery on it without unlocking anything. Thanks!
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BlindWolf8 said:
Hi Dave,
Thanks for the info, but why didn't I need to unlock my friend's Captivate? We were able to get Clockworkmod Recovery on it without unlocking anything. Thanks!
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http://www.androidcentral.com/bootloaders-all-you-ever-wanted-know
The TL;DR of that article is that,
Every phone has a bootloader. The Nexus series (and now Sony Ericcson after filing out a form on their website) has a unlockable bootloader without the usage of any exploits. Phones such as the Galaxy S series (Vibrant, Captivate, Epic 4G, etc) -- mainly Samsung phones have weak bootloader protection.
HOWEVER, all of the other phones' bootloaders are unlocked due to a exploit. So yes, your friend did unlock the bootloader without actually knowing it.
The only phones that are unable to unlock the bootloader are Motorola phones because of the bootloader being signed.
But if you really want to know about bootloaders, read that article.
@dave: there is no such thing as a custom radio. The radio itself is not open sourced. But it allows you to flash a older version of the radio since results of radios vary between user. Some people may experience better connection with KB3 than KD1 and etc.
Thanks! It was as I thought.
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BlindWolf8 said:
I am assuming we're unlocking the bootloader since it makes the rooting process easier as a hack isn't required?
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Correct. Most other phones require an exploit to root, the Nexus S does not - if you unlock the bootloader. Conversely, you might still be able to root the Nexus using an exploit, even if you want to keep the bootloader locked.
fallenguru said:
Correct. Most other phones require an exploit to root, the Nexus S does not - if you unlock the bootloader. Conversely, you might still be able to root the Nexus using an exploit, even if you want to keep the bootloader locked.
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....? You just paraphrased what i said.
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I have a related question. I relocked my bootloader after rooting. What exactly can I not do with it locked?
Maximilian Mary said:
I have a related question. I relocked my bootloader after rooting. What exactly can I not do with it locked?
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It's kind of a PITA to flash an updated Clockworkmod Recovery. That's all I've found out.
BlindWolf8 said:
It's kind of a PITA to flash an updated Clockworkmod Recovery. That's all I've found out.
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^ but to be honest, not to many things get changed within the recovery. Sure the modified Clockwork recovery gets updated. But the original clockwork from ROM Manager doesn't.. it'll work, but I don't see a reason on keeping the bootloader locked. No security is ever compromised.
zephiK said:
....? You just paraphrased what i said.
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Funny, I actually paraphrased the OP. He was on the right track anyway, just needed some confirmation, not a whole paper Also there's a lot of stuff in there I don't really agree with all that much.
Maximilian Mary said:
I relocked my bootloader after rooting. What exactly can I not do with it locked?
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Flash (and probably boot) stuff via fastboot.
Have installed the 4.2 update via recovery and locked the bootloader. Will I now get future OTA updates from google?
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Retroglide08 said:
Have installed the 4.2 update via recovery and locked the bootloader. Will I now get future OTA updates from google?
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The bootloader being locked or unlocked makes no difference. We typically see people OTA update fails from people who have modified system apps/files or installed a different kernel.
Ah ok. I had previously rooted it. But decided to revert back now that I have installed 4.2
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Unlocking Bootloader
So, can you unlock the bootloader on 4.2? Or does it even matter on what Android version you are on?
Thanks and Cheers!
ErnestoV31 said:
So, can you unlock the bootloader on 4.2? Or does it even matter on what Android version you are on?
Thanks and Cheers!
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It's a Nexus. Of course you can unlock the bootloader.
veeman said:
It's a Nexus. Of course you can unlock the bootloader.
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Yeah, but is the method for unlocking it on 4.2 different from the method on 4.1.1?
Sorry Im asking all these questions, rooting is a bit different from jailbreaking lol
ErnestoV31 said:
Yeah, but is the method for unlocking it on 4.2 different from the method on 4.1.1?
Sorry Im asking all these questions, rooting is a bit different from jailbreaking lol
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Haha, no. The method is still the same. And I suspect it will be the same for a while to come.
Oh and welcome to the Android world
The bootloader is unrelated to the version of Android you are running.
It is a " boot loader" that runs before the operating system is loaded.
Unlock it once, when you first get the device - and it should stay unlocked forever.
Nothing to do with root either - except the bootloader has to be unlocked to root the device.
Root and unroot the device as you like - just never mess with the bootloader after you unlock it.
Unlocking purges all your files...
ErnestoV31 said:
Yeah, but is the method for unlocking it on 4.2 different from the method on 4.1.1?
Sorry Im asking all these questions, rooting is a bit different from jailbreaking lol
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fastboot oem unlock
It hasn't changed since the first Nexus device and won't be changing any time soon.
Welcome to an open platform
It appears that real soon we may have root for locked bootloader devices running Lollipop.
Read here for more info.
zoid_99 said:
It appears that real soon we may have root for locked bootloader devices running Lollipop.
Read here for more info.
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One thing has nothing to do with the other.
Lollipop requires some changes to have root access and that was only possible with a modified kernel.
Now Chainfire managed to root the Lollipop without a custom kernel.
But installing ZIP file of root need a custom recovery , so still need to have the device with unlocked bootloader .
I've done the root Lollipop using this new root method of Chainfire.
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One thing has nothing to do with the other.
Lollipop requires some changes to have root access and that was only possible with a modified kernel.
Now Chainfire managed to root the Lollipop without a custom kernel.
But installing ZIP file of root need a custom recovery , so still need to have the device with unlocked bootloader .
I've done the root Lollipop using this new root method of Chainfire.
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If you read the article it appears that there is no need to install a zip in a custom recovery to get root with this method.
" the need for ramdisk modifications was concerning for many users of bootloader-locked devices for which no unlock is available (yes, they do unfortunately exist). The answer to their prayers is now here"
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If you read the article it appears that there is no need to install a zip in a custom recovery to get root with this method.
" the need for ramdisk modifications was concerning for many users of bootloader-locked devices for which no unlock is available (yes, they do unfortunately exist). The answer to their prayers is now here"
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Hmmm interesting.
Then the process should be with CF-Auto-Root .
I used one of those before when I first root in Lollipop.
But thought the command "mfastboot boot cf-auto-root.img" only work with unlocked bootloader and not the locked too.
Amazing.
Me excite!
You can only flash signed zips, so this only makes it easier because you dont need a device specific package for rooting
godutch said:
You can only flash signed zips, so this only makes it easier because you dont need a device specific package for rooting
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Translated... Will it work on moto x vzw?
GatorsUF said:
Translated... Will it work on moto x vzw?
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No.
cam30era said:
No.
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OF course
This revelation means that Android 5.0 users*no longer need to run a modified kernel to gain root access via SuperSU (or other root solutions). While not a huge problem on Nexus devices with unlockable bootloaders, the need for ramdisk modifications was concerning for many users of bootloader-locked devices for which no unlock is available (yes, they do unfortunately exist). The answer to their prayers is now here, and we can present an exclusive explanation of the changes needed. At least for now (until/unless Google patch this), it is possible to gain root access and then install and use SuperSU on a stock Android 5.0 device, without any kernel ramdisk tweaking. The reason for this is the need for SuperSU to run a service as root, to allow for unconstrained root access on SELinux-protected devices.
Bump. We need root. Can't believe nobody seems to be working on a workaround. No safestrap? No kexec? No root? What happened to our glorious hackers?
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Bump. We need root. Can't believe nobody seems to be working on a workaround. No safestrap? No kexec? No root? What happened to our glorious hackers?
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The glorious hackers are/have tried. Security continues to be more and more difficult to break. Jump in the pool and get it done if you want it sooner. Otherwise, buy a pure edition so you can unlock the boot loader
neh4pres said:
Bump. We need root. Can't believe nobody seems to be working on a workaround. No safestrap? No kexec? No root? What happened to our glorious hackers?
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Thanks Motorola -_-
Buy a nexus 6. That's what I did. Still have the moto x for my wife so I can play with it
Can't afford it right now. If I knew programming, you bet I would be working on it. God I hate Verizon, but been here so long it's my cheapest option.
matt99017d said:
The glorious hackers are/have tried. Security continues to be more and more difficult to break. Jump in the pool and get it done if you want it sooner. Otherwise, buy a pure edition so you can unlock the boot loader
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Will the pure edition work on Verizon?
GrandMstrBud said:
Will the pure edition work on Verizon?
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From what I understand, if you pop an activated Verizon SIM card into it, it'll work. Read that it'll work on the unlocked Nexus 6 too.
GreenMunky said:
From what I understand, if you pop an activated Verizon SIM card into it, it'll work. Read that it'll work on the unlocked Nexus 6 too.
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LTE should work but what about CDMA side of it?
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From what I understand, if you pop an activated Verizon SIM card into it, it'll work. Read that it'll work on the unlocked Nexus 6 too.
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LTE should work but what about CDMA side of it?
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No, CDMA will not work, nor 3G. So you will be confined only to LTE service and Google Voice (or similar).
matt99017d said:
The glorious hackers are/have tried. Security continues to be more and more difficult to break. Jump in the pool and get it done if you want it sooner. Otherwise, buy a pure edition so you can unlock the boot loader
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Looks like your idea will not work and maybe that's the reason for this thread? Pure Edition won't work on VZW
The latest KingRoot now can root the ATT Moto X on 5.1 (for real this time). I had to factory reset my phone before KingRoot was successful.
First backup your stuff. Then download the latest KingRoot apk from their website and install the app. Open the app and click on root. It may take several tries but it will work. Once you have root download Sunshine and click through the prompts, allow root access, etc. Enter payment information and unlock the boot loader!
So many times have I been let down by this ... I don't know if I should try it and get my hopes up. I'll be devastated if it doesn't work. xD
Edit: Well, looks like I am going to have to find a magical unicorn to gift you for this information. Indeed it works! Thanks much!
Congrats guys! I'm really happy for you.
Finally you can unlock your bootloader either!
just rooted, unlocked bootloader and installed cm13, thanks so much!!
How did you unlock the bootloader? Did you use sunshine after rooting, or some other method?
ForTheSteel said:
How did you unlock the bootloader? Did you use sunshine after rooting, or some other method?
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I used sunshine after rooting with KingRoot.
theron1998 said:
I used sunshine after rooting with KingRoot.
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i did the same
Does Kingroot keep failing for anyone else? Tried factory reset, should I not be signing in after that reset? This is try 6 or 7 I think for me, failing each time.
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Does Kingroot keep failing for anyone else? Tried factory reset, should I not be signing in after that reset? This is try 6 or 7 I think for me, failing each time.
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I didn't sign in or set up my device other than WiFi to download KingRoot as I was just going to reset and install CyanogenMod right after unlock. KingRoot will probably take many tries before success, it took me about 10 tries.
awesome news for sure but unfortunately i cant afford the $25 price tag to get it unlock, hopefully i can get it unlock someway other
Is it only for AT&T? if so, VZW Moto X XT1060s will never be able to have BL unlocked or rooted..
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Is it only for AT&T? if so, VZW Moto X XT1060s will never be able to have BL unlocked or rooted..
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KingRoot might work. You could try it.
247streetdoctor said:
Is it only for AT&T? if so, VZW Moto X XT1060s will never be able to have BL unlocked or rooted..
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Verizon has notified Motorola that XT1096 bootloaders can now be unlocked via Motorola process. This has been discussed here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/general/motorola-unlocking-verizon-moto-x-2014-t3291104
I too can confirm that this works. I just unlocked the bootloader, installed TWRP Recovery, and I'm on my way to flashing a custom ROM. YAY!
Side note: Paying to unlock the Bootloader is Bologna!!!
iraqmilner said:
I too can confirm that this works. I just unlocked the bootloader, installed TWRP Recovery, and I'm on my way to flashing a custom ROM. YAY!
Side note: Paying to unlock the Bootloader is Bologna!!!
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What is mean Bologna ?
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Yann68 said:
What is mean Bologna ?
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You speak spanish right? Bologna tanslates to salchichón. It is an expression that basically means mierda.
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zeifers said:
just rooted, unlocked bootloader and installed cm13, thanks so much!!
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Did you have the stagefright update installed that AT&T pushed out a month or 2 ago?
Abacus060 said:
Did you have the stagefright update installed that AT&T pushed out a month or 2 ago?
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I have that and this all worked for me.
Holy sweet jesus my bootloader is unlocked!!!
I was about to go buy a new phone so $25 was the much more affordable option.
could i get marshmallow?
Could I flash the x1095 pure firmware to get marshmallow by ota??
I dont want to unlock bootloader yet. So i wanted to root the device safely without flashing anything.
You simply can't flash any zips unless on a custom recovery and for that you have to unlock bootloader.
BTW the first thing i did upon getting my op5 was to unlock the bootloader.
"Root without flashing anything."
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PrakashGD said:
I dont want to unlock bootloader yet. So i wanted to root the device safely without flashing anything.
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Why not?
0xTJ said:
Why not?
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If something goes wrong I may brick the phone
PrakashGD said:
If something goes wrong I may brick the phone
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You're more likely to brick your phone using a janky and sketchy no-unlocking method than using the documented and manufacturer-recommended method.
0xTJ said:
You're more likely to brick your phone using a janky and sketchy no-unlocking method than using the documented and manufacturer-recommended method.
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I want to keep my device untouched for some time. Thats why im looking for alternative method to root the device.
PrakashGD said:
I want to keep my device untouched for some time. Thats why im looking for alternative method to root the device.
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Rooting touches your device just as much. Unlocking the bootloader is like using the key to open a door to get into a building. Trying to do it without unlocking is like using a sledgehammer to break in through the door.
PrakashGD said:
I want to keep my device untouched for some time. Thats why im looking for alternative method to root the device.
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Impossible, its like wanting to make an omelet without breaking an egg
You can just lock the bootloader again and noone would know you'd unlocked it. One Plus isn't like Samsung!
gee2012 said:
Impossible, its like wanting to make an omelet without breaking an egg
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Dude ur reference is dope ??
gee2012 said:
Impossible, its like wanting to make an omelet without breaking an egg
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If there is a security flaw it's possible to root it. It's been happening with phones like sony for ages
B3501 said:
You can just lock the bootloader again and noone would know you'd unlocked it. One Plus isn't like Samsung!
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Yes but one-click root apps are very unreliable in general and most don`t even work nowadays (especialy system less root). Unlocking the bootloader and flashing Magisk or superSU with TWRP is the best and safest method atm.
gee2012 said:
Yes but one-click root apps are very unreliable in general and most don`t even work nowadays (especialy system less root). Unlocking the bootloader and flashing Magisk or superSU with TWRP is the best and safest method atm.
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What? I didn't say anything about one-click root apps?!
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What? I didn't say anything about one-click root apps?!
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Sorry, quoted the wrong user meant the post of @xabierd
Mate, if you don't want to replace your recovery with TWRP, go to fastboot, make sure you have your phone discoverable and use the command "fastboot boot recovery.zip" - recovery.zip being TWRP. This will just boot into TWRP where you can flash magisk or supersu. This won't replace your stock recovery.
You will still need to unlock your bootloader however...