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The upcoming release of the Microsoft Surface will offer a digitized pen. Both the RT and Pro versions can use the pen; however, Microsoft warns that only the Pro version has palm rejection and highly accurate pen input (similar in quality to our s-pen). I am guessing that the RT version will work with the pen just not very well. For those who have tried writing without palm rejection you know what a frustating experience it can be.
It is estimated that the Pro version will price around $900+ or competitive with ultrabooks.
So if pen input is high on your list of must-haves, the Surface will offer it but it will cost you if you seek an experience on par with the SGN10.1.
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Additionally it looks as is the Surface RT will have a comparable resolution to our SGN10.1. NO full HD. Also the Surface will be significantly heavier than our device.
There seems to be quite a debate about the price of the RT. As low as $200 (which I doubt) up to the $400 to $500 range.
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One advantage Surface has is that every app made for RT will be a tablet app....unlike android where most apps are phone apps.
Who knows, by the time Surface comes out it'll probably have more tablet apps compared to android.
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One advantage Surface has is that every app made for RT will be a tablet app....unlike android where most apps are phone apps.
Who knows, by the time Surface comes out it'll probably have more tablet apps compared to android.
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Seriously doubt it. Android has more tablet apps than you think. It will take a while for them to build up the numbers android has.even then, more and more will be created for android.
I do want a MS Surface also though
Looks like the Pro is the only one worth having and it will be heavy (over 2 lbs) and expensive. The Pro is basically a touch screen ultrabook with a really small screen.
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One advantage Surface has is that every app made for RT will be a tablet app...
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And there in lies the problem with RT. It won't be able to run native Windows apps so the only content will be what app developers adapt for ARM. With the jury still out on the ARM version of Surface's success, I wouldn't expect to see a slew of adapted and original apps for it when it releases. If you think about it, WebOS on the HP TP was really cool, easy to use, and very intuitive for the non-technical. It failed because of lack of content. MS can (and I expect will) port their apps over to work on RT but does anyone want to rely on Windows Media Player and WMA and WMV files (again)?
This is from a MS SEC filing. There's a great deal of risk in both the launch of Surface and competing with their h/w partners at the same time.
We also offer vertically-integrated hardware and software products and services; however, our competitors have been in the market longer and in some cases have established significantly large user bases. Efforts to compete with the vertically integrated model will increase our cost of revenue and reduce our operating margins.
We derive substantial revenue from licenses of Windows operating systems on personal computers. The proliferation of alternative devices and form factors, in particular mobile devices such as smartphones and tablet computers, creates challenges from competing software platforms. These devices compete on multiple bases including price and the perceived utility of the device and its platform.
Even if many users view these devices as complementary to a personal computer, the prevalence of these devices may make it more difficult to attract applications developers to our platforms. In addition, our Surface devices will compete with products made by our OEM partners, which may affect their commitment to our platform.
To me it seems like RT will be too little and Pro will be too much. I mean why drop $1000 on a 10 inch screen with a crappy keyboard when you can buy a nice laptop for that? I dunno but can you imagine trying to use MS ACCESS on a 10 inch HD screen? You would go blind.
Right now im feeling pretty good about my SGN10.1
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To me it seems like RT will be too little and Pro will be too much. I mean why drop $1000 on a 10 inch screen with a crappy keyboard when you can buy a nice laptop for that? I dunno but can you imagine trying to use MS ACCESS on a 10 inch HD screen? You would go blind.
Right now im feeling pretty good about my SGN10.1
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I would think MS Access on a 10 inch screen would make my head spin. I also think the 10" form factor is best suited to light to moderate productivity tasks along with consumption of media, communications, and presentation. Tasks like note-taking, email, basic document manipulation and that sort of thing seem to be the most well-suited for conversion from a full PC to something like a tablet -- information management stuff, really. For $1000, I'd buy an ultrabook and use my regular wacom drawing tablet with it if needed, rather than the Surface and it's almost-full-windows OS.
I just don't envision doing a lot of real work on a 10" tablet, no matter who makes it. I'm a web developer (and designer) among other things, and while I certainly have the tools at my disposal to write source code on my tablet, I think I'd go insane with a project of any real size. Screen real estate is the major factor, IMO: my PC is a dual monitor setup and I use every bit of both monitors when I work. The Note has gone a long way in the short time I've owned it to changing how much and what tasks I use my tablet for. I find myself reaching for it far more often than I ever reached for my OG Transformer (and the TF had a keyboard dock!)
The Note 10.1 lets me sketch out ideas, create rough designs, and take notes on a decent size screen (the Note 5.3 is just too small for my liking for this) -- basically every bit of the prep work that I do (and sometimes just notes to myself while I'm mid-project). It's part of my tool set now, but definitely not the end-all for productivity. I have absolutely zero interest in a windows tablet, even with a true MS Office on it. Windows tablets have long been (and sounds like they still will be, even with the surface) too expensive for what they do (or, in the case of the lower priced Surface tablet, doesn't do enough for the $$). $500 was perfect for me -- I get my media consumption device (I already have enough $$ invested in android apps and content) plus a work tool all rolled into one and for a price I'm completely happy with.
My only hesitation when buying my Note 10.1 was knowing the MS was coming out with pen enabled tablet in two months. I have always felt tablets from the start should have built in support for inking abilities, after all, what is the tablet replacing first and foremost - a note pad. I have been frustrated up until now about the options - using a large, hot running, full of vents for cooling, expensive windows tablet with short battery life (but very good inking with active digitized layer on the screen) or skip the inking altogether and use keyboard (Transformer Tablet). I decided to go the Transformer route with a purchase of a TF101 when they first came out, loved it (still do) but still wanted to be able to write on the tablet like a pad of paper (capactive stylus never have worked like a real wacom one). Now the Note is out and I did wind up buying it, love it a lot but just wish I could have the best of both worlds on this tablet - long battery life, light, real inking ability is all there but its missing some type of real MS office type of app including OneNote that takes advantage of inking.
If I knew MS Windows 8 RT would have the same capabilities as my Note 10.1 (Speed, batt life, real inking) along with fully implements MS office then I could see me wanting to get one. A bonus is also the keyboard, I know some scoff at their keyboard but I'm wishing we had something like that on our Note!
But thats just the point. Pen performance on the RT will be sketchy at best. No palm rejection? Fogetaboutit. You want pen with an HD screen on Surface? Youll pay ultrabook prices for a tiny 10 inch screen.
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Out of curiosity, where have you read that RT will have pen support? Every thing I've read so far is that it won't.
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Out of curiosity, where have you read that RT will have pen support? Every thing I've read so far is that it won't.
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I read in a review that it will but that it will basically suck. No palm rejection and not very accurate input. Probably no better than a rubber tipped stylus. But people can start to see why the SGN10.1 doesn't have an HD screen. It wouldn't work with the pen without a much more powerful CPU.
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I read in a review that it will but that it will basically suck. No palm rejection and not very accurate input. Probably no better than a rubber tipped stylus. But people can start to see why the SGN10.1 doesn't have an HD screen. It wouldn't work with the pen without a much more powerful CPU.
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Most likely if it has a pen at all it'll be passive, not active. It wouldn't make sense to build in a digitizer and then not bundle a pen. Which means it won't be any better than using your finger really.
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I Will wait until the Samsung Series 5 Hybrid Pc comes out. HD screen with keyboard and Wacom Pen input, and it also works as an Ultrabook... So much!
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iZan23 said:
I Will wait until the Samsung Series 5 Hybrid Pc comes out. HD screen with keyboard and Wacom Pen input, and it also works as an Ultrabook... So much!
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This would be my choice - the best of all types of inputs, you decide how you want to use it, keyboard, touch or digital ink. I did notice in this article http://www.zdnet.com/samsung-to-introduce-hybrid-windows-8-tablet-at-ifa-2012-7000003235/
They say the full version of windows 8 tablets will sell for "several hundred dollars" I was under the impression only the RT ARM version was "rumored" to be starting at $200 and the full on X86 tablets were start at over $500 - $600 at least, with higher end tablets expected to be much higher. Is this still the case?
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This would be my choice - the best of all types of inputs, you decide how you want to use it, keyboard, touch or digital ink. I did notice in this article http://www.zdnet.com/samsung-to-introduce-hybrid-windows-8-tablet-at-ifa-2012-7000003235/
They say the full version of windows 8 tablets will sell for "several hundred dollars" I was under the impression only the RT ARM version was "rumored" to be starting at $200 and the full on X86 tablets were start at over $500 - $600 at least, with higher end tablets expected to be much higher. Is this still the case?
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I have read that the Surface Pro will price comparable to an ultrabook since that is basically what it is with touch and a very small screen. My guess is around $900.
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I Will wait until the Samsung Series 5 Hybrid Pc comes out. HD screen with keyboard and Wacom Pen input, and it also works as an Ultrabook... So much!
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I am pretty upset that this will be shown right after they release the Note 10.1. Hopefully it will be a while away, or not run as smooth. increased price shouldnt really be a problem, though the 11 inch does seem a bit wide...
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I am pretty upset that this will be shown right after they release the Note 10.1. Hopefully it will be a while away, or not run as smooth. increased price shouldnt really be a problem, though the 11 inch does seem a bit wide...
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It will be heavy and probably twice the price.
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But thats just the point. Pen performance on the RT will be sketchy at best. No palm rejection? Fogetaboutit. You want pen with an HD screen on Surface? Youll pay ultrabook prices for a tiny 10 inch screen.
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The RT does not have a digitizer. Pen performance will be just like any other tablet with no digitizer (e.g. iPad, Transformer, etc..)
And a "tiny 10 inch screen"?? It will still be 1/2 inch BIGGER than the Galaxy Note 10.1 screen... (same for both RT and Pro).
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Looks like the Pro is the only one worth having and it will be heavy (over 2 lbs) and expensive. The Pro is basically a touch screen ultrabook with a really small screen.
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Got a link to support your claim about the weight? And is that weight with the keyboard attached? Okay, and how much does the Note 10.1 weigh with a keyboard?
If you want to compare weights, please keep the comparison apples to apples. The Surface Pro does not require a keyboard. It's a tablet with a digitizing stylus - just like the Note 10.1.
As a matter of fact, MS specs for the Surface Pro are 903g. The GN 10.1 is 594g. Or 1.99 pounds for the SP and 1.31 for the GN 10.1. So the SP is 0.68 pounds or 309g heavier.
http://www.microsoft.com/global/surface/en/us/renderingassets/surfacespecsheet.pdf
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab/GT-N8013EAVXAR-specs
And how do you figure that a 10.6" tablet with a digitizing stylus is "a touch screen ultrabook with a really small screen".
What do you have against the Surface Pro anyway? You seem to be going out of your way to trash it based on stuff you "heard" and stuff you "read" (but haven't provided links to).
If the Pro does come in at $900, you'll still be getting 64GB storage (which you can't even get on a GN 10.1, and with the option for 128GB), full 1080p resolution, and a 1/2 inch bigger screen. Just the bigger screen has to add some to the weight. And you can run ANY Windows app. That means WAY MORE apps than you can run on the GN 10.1. And all that hoopla about "multi-tasking" on the Note? Well, you can actually do that FOR REAL on the Pro - with any app, not just the 6 that Samsung gave you.
$900 doesn't sound that bad compared to $550, when you're talking about double the onboard storage, way higher resolution graphics and, according to you, a much more powerful processor. And the option to add on a really thin keyboard cover that attaches magnetically, turns the screen off when you close it, and looks like it works pretty darn well when you're using it. Heck, how much are you going to spend just to have something to prop your Note up for watching movies? The Surfaces have something for that built in. Oh, and did I forget to mention the Pro has USB 3.0, built-in DisplayPort output, and a 2x2 MIMO WiFi antenna?
The Surface Pro is (slightly) bigger, better, faster, and more capable. For a small amount of extra weight and a bit of extra money.
At the end of the day, if you have a legitimate need for what the Galaxy Note 10.1 offers - i.e. it's more to you than just a neat thing to play around with and let you feel superior to your friends with Transformers and iPads - then I suspect the Surface Pro will more than justify its extra cost to you for all the extras that it will provide.
I really, really like my GN 10.1. I think it is the best tablet on the market right now and I have a legitimate business use for the note-taking capabilities. But, I don't have delusions of grandeur about it. It is what it is and I expect the SPro to be Note++.
Again, what do you have against the Surface tablets?
Stuart calm down.
I have nothing against the Surface Pro. My point is that if you can afford the Surface Pro you should get it but do not feel bad that your $500 SGN10.0 doesn't have an HD screen like a device costing almost twice as much.
What makes you such a Surface evangelist?
P.S. How do you figure almost twice the price is a "bit more money". That hyperbole my friend. It will be the Note ++ and the Price ++.
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Hi, I know someone might have made this thread before but I'm thinking of buying a tablet for school mostly because I bought most of my books as ebooks and some as PDFs. However, I don't really like the idea of lugging my laptop around and figure that it would make more sense to use a tablet instead. I'm looking at the Nexus 7 mostly because of the small form factor. The 10 inchers (Galaxy, Transformer etc) seem like they would be heavy and uncomfortable to hold after long periods of time.
I've read tons of reviews, watched videos and all that. I know these tablets very well but I'm just looking to hear from people. Any of you use the Nexus 7 for school? Would you recommend it for school? If not, which would you recommend? Any other thing I should be aware of? Thanks in advance.
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Hi, I know someone might have made this thread before but I'm thinking of buying a tablet for school mostly because I bought most of my books as ebooks and some as PDFs. However, I don't really like the idea of lugging my laptop around and figure that it would make more sense to use a tablet instead. I'm looking at the Nexus 7 mostly because of the small form factor. The 10 inchers (Galaxy, Transformer etc) seem like they would be heavy and uncomfortable to hold after long periods of time.
I've read tons of reviews, watched videos and all that. I know these tablets very well but I'm just looking to hear from people. Any of you use the Nexus 7 for school? Would you recommend it for school? If not, which would you recommend? Any other thing I should be aware of? Thanks in advance.
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I use the N7 at school and it works well for ebooks, PDFs, web surfing and gaming. I would recommend it. I can't say how it is for note taking, but I've heard good things.
Although, you are posting this in a Nexus 7 thread so you're probably going to hear mostly positive opinions of the Nexus 7.
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Having owned several different Android tablets now, I can safely say that the Nexus 7 is on another level compared to everything else. It's way faster than my Transformer TF300 and much easier to take places and hold. I read with mine a lot and my arms never seem to get tired from holding the Nexus 7. Unless you plan on also writing all your papers on a tablet, the Nexus 7 is the best choice.
I have tried the original iPad, iPad 2nd gen, and the Asus Transformer TF101 for reading, and like you said, over time it back comes uncomfortable to hold the bigger tablets.
Now that I have the Nexus 7, I find myself reading on it long periods of time without fatigue.
But it still comes down to your preference. Are you going to be doing anything else besides using your ebooks on the tablet? You may look into an Asus or Samsung since they have specialized keyboards to make them feel like netbooks.
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N7 if you don't need to type a lot, Asus transformer prime w/ keyboard if you are typing a lot.
if you are worried about carrying your tablet around, use this
Simple.
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I use the N7 at school and it works well for ebooks, PDFs, web surfing and gaming. I would recommend it. I can't say how it is for note taking, but I've heard good things.
Although, you are posting this in a Nexus 7 thread so you're probably going to hear mostly positive opinions of the Nexus 7.
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Agree with this. Its not the best for note taking but you could get the job done with it. I personally use my Infinity for typing though, the keyboard dock is great.
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Thanks, guys. I went ahead and ordered one just a few minutes ago. There's really not much else that I plan on using it for. I'm buying it mostly for my ebooks. Would a stylus make it better for notetaking?
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Thanks, guys. I went ahead and ordered one just a few minutes ago. There's really not much else that I plan on using it for. I'm buying it mostly for my ebooks. Would a stylus make it better for notetaking?
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Honestly I learned my first semester with a tablet, it's MUCH easier to type notes on my tablet with a bluetooth keyboard than it was to write with the stylus. I think a small portable keyboard that's COMFORTABLE and not too small to be functional where you're hunting and pecking, and a case that has a flap for a stand is the way to go when you're going to be taking notes for lectures. For me, using a nice note taking app and having it record audio where I can start audio at the spot I'm studying (it knows where in the recording it was when I wrote the note) has dramatically increased my note taking ability.
I think the Nexus 7 was a great choice. I have a transformer prime, but I took most of my college notes on an ipad with a third party keyboard and will be using the N7 for the same purpose. I just use a stylus for accents and special sketch type notes.
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Honestly I learned my first semester with a tablet, it's MUCH easier to type notes on my tablet with a bluetooth keyboard than it was to write with the stylus. I think a small portable keyboard that's COMFORTABLE and not too small to be functional where you're hunting and pecking, and a case that has a flap for a stand is the way to go when you're going to be taking notes for lectures. For me, using a nice note taking app and having it record audio where I can start audio at the spot I'm studying (it knows where in the recording it was when I wrote the note) has dramatically increased my note taking ability.
I think the Nexus 7 was a great choice. I have a transformer prime, but I took most of my college notes on an ipad with a third party keyboard and will be using the N7 for the same purpose. I just use a stylus for accents and special sketch type notes.
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I don't mean to be a bother but if you can, can you post a shopping link to your keyboard? Also, what apps would you recommend for note taking or voice recording.
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Thanks, guys. I went ahead and ordered one just a few minutes ago. There's really not much else that I plan on using it for. I'm buying it mostly for my ebooks. Would a stylus make it better for notetaking?
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Correct me if i'm wrong, doesn't most touch screens use the heat of the finger?
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Correct me if i'm wrong, doesn't most touch screens use the heat of the finger?
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Most touchscreens on mobile devices are capacitive. This means that there is a layer of capacitive material in the screen that holds a charge. When you touch the screen it changes the amount of charge at a specific point of contact.
There are styluses (styli?) that mimic or replicate the electrical conductivity of the human finger. This means they work on capacitive touch screens.
Here's an article on capacitive touchscreens for more info.
http://engineering.mit.edu/live/news/1439-how-do-touchsensitive-screens-work
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Hi there I'm thinking of getting a galaxy note 10.1 to maybe enhance my digital art, can't afford to buy a critiq as it's way more than I can afford and when I saw this tablet I just knew I wanted one.
I'm used to using a Wacom tablet but it has to be connected to my laptop and a tablet seems like a great way to do paintings outside without the hassle of bringing an extra laptop.
How would you compare it to a Wacom and is it as easy to use and is the pressure sensitive pen as good as the pens that come with Wacom tablets.
I've seen reviews about the galaxy 10.1 but they were by phone and tablet reviewers that didn't really do any art and just talked about the specifications and benchmarks and the hardware.
I was either thinking of getting this tablet and having to save more to buy it or buy a cheaper tablet and get a dagi stylus.
What are your views?
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I guess nobody wants to help.
Very helpful in here I can see.
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This is a tech forum, not artistic and there is information in the forum if youlook...
The wacom pens work on the note 10.1 and it has a wacom digitiser. I have had no problems and find the pen quite good with different levels of pressure sensitivity, but I'm no artist...
There have been mixed reviews and threads about problems with the s-pen but I can't say I have had any. The best bet would be to go to a store and try it out... Just remember that the store demo's are used and abused by the public so allow for that...
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This is a tech forum, not artistic and there is information in the forum if youlook...
The wacom pens work on the note 10.1 and it has a wacom digitiser. I have had no problems and find the pen quite good with different levels of pressure sensitivity, but I'm no artist...
There have been mixed reviews and threads about problems with the s-pen but I can't say I have had any. The best bet would be to go to a store and try it out... Just remember that the store demo's are used and abused by the public so allow for that...
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Thanks thought this was a general forum for everything related to galaxy note 10.1 I'll use this forum when I get one for rooting and stuff.
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It is the general forum and you can ask talk about anything you want but that doesn't mean people will answer... As I said, I'm no artist, I have a 2 year old nephew that can draw stick figures better than me :silly:, but people don't always have the time or inclination to answer all the time....
As I'm an artist, but don't have a Note, I would like you to report your findings here when you have tried the note
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Post Your Note 10.1 Designs/Sketches
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1861201
Your best bet would be to ask in here
Theres a fair amount of drawings in there, progresively gets better some very good artists showcasing their drawings......you might get a better idea just perusing that thread
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As I'm an artist, but don't have a Note, I would like you to report your findings here when you have tried the note
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I will when I get one, got some art I did on my Wacom tablet on my profile, hopefully it will be an easy transition to the galaxy note 10.1
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Post Your Note 10.1 Designs/Sketches
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1861201
Your best bet would be to ask in here
Theres a fair amount of drawings in there, progresively gets better some very good artists showcasing their drawings......you might get a better idea just perusing that thread
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Thanks I'll take a look
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I will when I get one, got some art I did on my Wacom tablet on my profile, hopefully it will be an easy transition to the galaxy note 10.1
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I did the same thing, transitioned from a wacom tablet/desktop set up to the note 10.1 it's really amazing and has got me drawing all the time again!!!! It's easy to sketch even in broad daylight and the battery lasts about 10 hours. This also was a compromise for the cintiq...which I also can't afford, I'm glad I did it.
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aletheus said:
I did the same thing, transitioned from a wacom tablet/desktop set up to the note 10.1 it's really amazing and has got me drawing all the time again!!!! It's easy to sketch even in broad daylight and the battery lasts about 10 hours. This also was a compromise for the cintiq...which I also can't afford, I'm glad I did it.
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Thank you, it makes my decision of buying the 10.1 easier now
Now to do some saving up
Any chance of a screen shot of your work?
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Thank you, it makes my decision of buying the 10.1 easier now
Now to do some saving up
Any chance of a screen shot of your work?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1861201
Here's a thread where people are posting their work. So you can see more than just mine. ;-P
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aletheus said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1861201
Here's a thread where people are posting their work. So you can see more than just mine. ;-P
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Wow cool I like your work, very original.
Hopefully when I get the 10.1 it will inspire me and motivate me to do more and maybe one day make some money from it as there are sites where people buy original digital art.
It will also give me the freedom to take it anywhere and just sketch if I want to and maybe post a few of my paintings there
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I have an Intuos 3 on my PC at home. I haven't used it extensively (my dad passed it on to me), but I have used it here and there.
Having just gotten my Note 10.1, I can say it's basically the exact same feel and functionality. The difference being that (like the Cintiq) you're drawing right on the screen - which I find much easier.
Cool can't wait to get mine as I've been wanting a good tablet, I've only got the Wacom cth-460 bamboo pen and touch.
It's okay but want to do more
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I've been waffling over getting a tablet for a while now. But when I read about the functionality of the Note 10.1 I was sold. Part of the reason I don't use my Intuos very often is because I have a hard time with the disconnect between looking at the screen on my desk while drawing on the tablet on my lap (or keyboard tray). Even with the cursor displaying where my stylus is, I find it hard to draw.
Interestingly I've never had issues with using a mouse, nor keyboard, and I'm an avid PC gamer. Just something about drawing with a stylus that doesn't work for me on a typical PC setup.
On the Note 10.1, it's like drawing on paper (as far as the brain-to-hand connection goes).
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I've been waffling over getting a tablet for a while now. But when I read about the functionality of the Note 10.1 I was sold. Part of the reason I don't use my Intuos very often is because I have a hard time with the disconnect between looking at the screen on my desk while drawing on the tablet on my lap (or keyboard tray). Even with the cursor displaying where my stylus is, I find it hard to draw.
Interestingly I've never had issues with using a mouse, nor keyboard, and I'm an avid PC gamer. Just something about drawing with a stylus that doesn't work for me on a typical PC setup.
On the Note 10.1, it's like drawing on paper (as far as the brain-to-hand connection goes).
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Same here, you have to have pretty good hand to eye coordinating to even produce anything on a wacom tablet and it takes some getting used to.
I like the idea of the 10.1 as it's like painting without the hassle of buying paints and canvas plus the resson I love digital art the most is I'm colour blind and found tablets easier to paint with.
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I've been waffling over getting a tablet for a while now. But when I read about the functionality of the Note 10.1 I was sold. Part of the reason I don't use my Intuos very often is because I have a hard time with the disconnect between looking at the screen on my desk while drawing on the tablet on my lap (or keyboard tray). Even with the cursor displaying where my stylus is, I find it hard to draw.
Interestingly I've never had issues with using a mouse, nor keyboard, and I'm an avid PC gamer. Just something about drawing with a stylus that doesn't work for me on a typical PC setup.
On the Note 10.1, it's like drawing on paper (as far as the brain-to-hand connection goes).
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Strange, my drawing and painting studio core made us learn to divorce the hand from the eye... "If you're not looking at your model, then you're making it up." was what I always learned... I figured that's why wacom went ahead with screen-less tablets, they figured artists could handle it. =D
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Strange, my drawing and painting studio core made us learn to divorce the hand from the eye... "If you're not looking at your model, then you're making it up." was what I always learned... I figured that's why wacom went ahead with screen-less tablets, they figured artists could handle it. =D
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LOL. Makes sense. I just never took an art class (beyond grade 10). Kind of funny now that I think about it, having worked as a graphic designer for 9 years.
I think the main compromise going between my Intuos and Note 10.1 is not hardware related, but software. There isn't any software that I know of in Android that can easily handle a large PSD file along with my various adjustment layers. But, for those projects, I shrink or flatten a copy before I work on it on the tablet. Aside from that, the only thing it seems to be missing is tilt sensitivity, which I'm not quite good enough to perceive anyway.
The Galaxy Note series gave me the opportunity to start creating digital art. I do traditional pen, pencil and watercolors, and had no time to sit to do stuff with a tablet at home or carry a laptop and sit. I actually wanted a Wacom Cintique that is an extra touch screen, nearing some $2000.
So, when I got the first Galaxy Note came, I started to learn to do digital drawing. I managed to work well with the Sketchbook Express app. I then got the Note II last January, these were some of my more serious drawings using the Sketchbook Pro with process:
Anne Hathaway
http://flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157632896900046/
Arya Stark
http://flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157632932865305/
And my winning entry for winning this Note 8 from SamMobile Netherlands
http://flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157632969056494/
I've recently bought the Sketchbook Ink, only available for tablets and here are some of my work on caricatures:
http://flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157633514570241/
I'm hooked on digital drawing. The Note 8.0 is a perfect size factor for convenience with ample screen area.
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Wow that's amazing! I'm trying to figure the settings to recreate a water color look on the same app. Any advice?
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I'm trying to figure the settings to recreate a water color look on the same app. Any advice
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Not the same app, but apparently your best choice for watercolor at this time:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.auryn.apps.ink&hl=en
Haven't tried it myself yet, but I intend to.
To the OP: Nice work!
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Not the same app, but apparently your best choice for watercolor at this time:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.auryn.apps.ink&hl=en
Haven't tried it myself yet, but I intend to.
To the OP: Nice work!
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I am a very serious watercolorist and I teach it in architecture school. The rating for the Auryn app is only 3 out of 5. Reports from some Note 10.1 users say it doesn't work. That's bad. And the samples shown aren't that impressive. I intend to see some better results and I wish there was a free to try version.
Thanks. The skills and discipline from traditional medium onto digital medium is quite easy enough. The Arya Stark portrait is airbrush method using the Adobe Photoshop Touch for phones on the Note 2.
I love the Sketchbook Ink app. It's good to note that you can save/export up to 8000 by 12800 pixel images! More art as I make them.
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Wow. Beautiful work, so impressive. Amazing what real artists can do. Thank you for sharing your work with us. I find it mind boggling that people can create such beauty with a tablet.
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What I can just say is "wow"!
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Very nice work. It is cool how you used a framework of lines and proportions to do the face. Did you also do something like that for the profile? Would like to see more note 8 art!
This is the exact reason I want a Note 8.0. I'm a digital media major right now and I lack drawing ability, but love working with digital imagery. I figured this would be a good push to mesh both and learn to properly draw! How difficult was the transition from paper to digital, especially on a Note?
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This is the exact reason I want a Note 8.0. I'm a digital media major right now and I lack drawing ability, but love working with digital imagery. I figured this would be a good push to mesh both and learn to properly draw! How difficult was the transition from paper to digital, especially on a Note?
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Drawing/sketching is an acquired universal skill, just like reading or driving. I've struggled with drawing for the party 20 years. It's a never-ending endeavor. I learn new techniques and styles from every time I see new handmade images I see from books, colleagues, galleries, Internet and students. Each drawing you do, is a lesson. I have disciplined myself that spontaneity and welcoming accidents on paper and learning from mistakes rather than erasing them are the best way is been learning. Each drawing is practice, and the moving visual record and mind process that went along well be collected in your mind.
I still carry my sketchbooks and portable watercolor set. Any self-respecting visual artist should use sketchbooks. I do a lot of drawing from observation. I also do large pieces of 36" by 48" finely penciled and watercolored architectural pieces. I think we should not be slaves on one particular medium. I believe the basics of observing and applying line values, line angle direction, shape, proportions, contrast, composition, shades and shadows will always be there, even if you are going digital.
It's easier coming from traditional mediums to a digital device like the Note 8. But some aren't keen on going digital at all.
I do suggest you do join an art group like Urban Sketchers (we're 4000+ strong worldwide) to be encouraged in doing more sketches through live observation.
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Drawing/sketching is an acquired universal skill, just like reading or driving. I've struggled with drawing for the party 20 years. It's a never-ending endeavor. I learn new techniques and styles from every time I see new handmade images I see from books, colleagues, galleries, Internet and students. Each drawing you do, is a lesson. I have disciplined myself that spontaneity and welcoming accidents on paper and learning from mistakes rather than erasing them are the best way is been learning. Each drawing is practice, and the moving visual record and mind process that went along well be collected in your mind.
I still carry my sketchbooks and portable watercolor set. Any self-respecting visual artist should use sketchbooks. I do a lot of drawing from observation. I also do large pieces of 36" by 48" finely penciled and watercolored architectural pieces. I think we should not be slaves on one particular medium. I believe the basics of observing and applying line values, line angle direction, shape, proportions, contrast, composition, shades and shadows will always be there, even if you are going digital.
It's easier coming from traditional mediums to a digital device like the Note 8. But some aren't keen on going digital at all.
I do suggest you do join an art group like Urban Sketchers (we're 4000+ strong worldwide) to be encouraged in doing more sketches through live observation.
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I figured as much. I still used my sketchbook from time to time, but most of the time it's abstract, and maybe observation drawing is what I really need. I figured I would get used to digital drawing, however as well, because honestly from my Bamboo Capture I've loved it.
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I figured as much. I still used my sketchbook from time to time, but most of the time it's abstract, and maybe observation drawing is what I really need. I figured I would get used to digital drawing, however as well, because honestly from my Bamboo Capture I've loved it.
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The Note 8 is light and gives ample power for live drawings from observatons. It's good training for building up a visual vocabulary, and nothing is richer than directly sketching subjects on-the-spot. No pictures. No videos. No poses. Just direct creative drawing. It doesn't even matter if it's "correct". Sketching is experiencing the eye-mind-hand process. The more you do it, the better you be in tune with your own unique style.
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very impressive. #thumbsup
Those are incredible! Wish I could do that with my note!
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I've tried to draw with my Note 8. In my opinion is it the best choice for digital sketch and draw.
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Wow, simply amazing you're really making it hard for me to choose which tablet to get. After getting a chance to play the note mainly concentrating on the media side I found I really liked it. I then decided not to get it because I heard of the bad battery life. I had no idea the pen was capable of starting like this.
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Wow, simply amazing you're really making it hard for me to choose which tablet to get. After getting a chance to play the note mainly concentrating on the media side I found I really liked it. I then decided not to get it because I heard of the bad battery life. I had no idea the pen was capable of starting like this.
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With the Adobe Photoshop Touch, you can do this from scratch, to how realistic you can do:
This was done on my Galaxy Note II with the PS Touch for Phones. I will do something with the Note 8 when I find the time.
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Jadefalkon said:
Wow, simply amazing you're really making it hard for me to choose which tablet to get. After getting a chance to play the note mainly concentrating on the media side I found I really liked it. I then decided not to get it because I heard of the bad battery life. I had no idea the pen was capable of starting like this.
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The Note 8.0's battery is just satisfactory. I can drain it in 4 hours of heavy usage like games or downloading continuous torrents. For stock browsing with minimal brightness, it could drain 7 to 8 of continuous usage. I stopped wakeups with Greenify to have apps like Facebook, Whatsapp, or anything that does updates to sleep when the screen is off.
I still would get this over other tablets because the Note 8.0 is powerful and is the only one with a Wacom digitizer.
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Just did a quick 5 minute sketch of my girlfriend while britains got tallent was on to test out the tablet and get used to sketchbook pro. Its nothing special, but I havent done any serious drawing for a good few years now and am hoping that this tablet will be my way back in to it.
Going to try LayerPaint today and see how I get on with that
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Just did a quick 5 minute sketch of my girlfriend while britains got tallent was on to test out the tablet and get used to sketchbook pro. Its nothing special, but I havent done any serious drawing for a good few years now and am hoping that this tablet will be my way back in to it.
Going to try LayerPaint today and see how I get on with that
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Nice. Not bad for 5 minutes. I find Sketchbook Pro to be most versatile than most sketching apps. I'm using it to produce architectural illustrations for a design competition due in 45v days. It will be a testament to skill. It can't however (yet) replicate watercolors or the textures of oils.
You can make magic if you really commit a few hours.
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Nice. Not bad for 5 minutes. I find Sketchbook Pro to be most versatile than most sketching apps. I'm using it to produce architectural illustrations for a design competition due in 45v days. It will be a testament to skill. It can't however (yet) replicate watercolors or the textures of oils.
You can make magic if you really commit a few hours.
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Thanks for the encouragement. I'm just learning how to use the different brush settings etc at the moment in Sketchbook and wont start to do anything serious until I am more comfortable with the tool. My background is pencils and watercolours (in collage 8 years ago), so its those mediums I'm most looking to replicate. I'm finding I'm quickly addapting to the "feel" of the screen rather than pencil and paper though.
note: my main intention is to develop a comic book style hence the big eyes in the sketch I attached, but i like the sound of the urban sketchers movement and may try and get more involved in it once I get more comfortable
I owe a nexus 4 and also owe laptop and desktop pc. Is the nexus 10 gonna help me?
First of all I want it since in august I'll start university so it will help for books on pdf, taking notes and since I'll enter to computer sciences I expect to use it for others things that I'll reach on school.
But I don't really know what is having a tablet, maybe I can do it all with a laptop but sometimes I think watching movies, comics, books, gaming and surfing Web is enough + utilities on school for getting it.
Any advice?
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I owe a nexus 4 and also owe laptop and desktop pc. Is the nexus 10 gonna help me?
First of all I want it since in august I'll start university so it will help for books on pdf, taking notes and since I'll enter to computer sciences I expect to use it for others things that I'll reach on school.
But I don't really know what is having a tablet, maybe I can do it all with a laptop but sometimes I think watching movies, comics, books, gaming and surfing Web is enough + utilities on school for getting it.
Any advice?
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I've got a beastly desktop, laptop, and a decent phone. The tablet goes with me to stores and such so I can look things up on the go, or to work (I'm a teacher) so that I can take attendance on it. Its much more mobile than a laptop while providing, with the right apps. most of the functionality.
I would wait to see what the next galaxy note tablet is going to be. You could use a bluetooth keyboard if you'd rather type your notes and use the spen if you need to jot down formulas or charts.
If you have a newer laptop, I wouldn't recommend getting a regular tablet like the nexus 10 if you want it for school.
Me personally, I have a powerful desktop with two monitors for my main bulk of school work at home. I bring a netbook to class for notes (I download the PowerPoint's and convert them to PDF. Using acrobat pro, I can type notes just like if I were writing on the print out). The netbook is a bit old and weak but gets the job done for now.
With something like the galaxy note, you can have everything consolidated on your tablet(PDFs, PowerPoint's,hand written notes, types notes, ebooks ect) all in a compact device. Then use your desktop for more productive things and you could probably sell your laptop.
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I owe a nexus 4 and also owe laptop and desktop pc. Is the nexus 10 gonna help me?
First of all I want it since in august I'll start university so it will help for books on pdf, taking notes and since I'll enter to computer sciences I expect to use it for others things that I'll reach on school.
But I don't really know what is having a tablet, maybe I can do it all with a laptop but sometimes I think watching movies, comics, books, gaming and surfing Web is enough + utilities on school for getting it.
Any advice?
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Personally, I don't find tablets with (solely) capacitive touch screens to be useful for notetaking. They aren't accurate enough to take down diagrams and formulas much better than pen and paper. In fact, the best solution I've found has been using a LiveScribe pen to import those kinds of information into OneNote. On the other hand, if you've got any professors who are enamored of open-source formats like PDF, tablets are a great way to read on the go, and for that purpose I highly recommend them.
They're also great for most of what you named, but importantly tablets can go into "tighter" places. Your dorm room bed, a couch, or some other random place on campus are good candidates. If you've got a small bag, they're also one of those things you can toss in as a "just in case" if you need to do something your phone is unsuitable for, but don't want to bring your laptop for.
I'd recommend honestly looking into a Windows convertible, or, if you don't like the big M, go for an active-digitizer tablet. That basically means the Note at this point, unless you go hunting for one of Lenovo's offerings.
The Nexus 10 is a great tablet though, so buy with confidence if you feel a tablet is for you.
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I owe a nexus 4 and also owe laptop and desktop pc. Is the nexus 10 gonna help me?
First of all I want it since in august I'll start university so it will help for books on pdf, taking notes and since I'll enter to computer sciences I expect to use it for others things that I'll reach on school.
But I don't really know what is having a tablet, maybe I can do it all with a laptop but sometimes I think watching movies, comics, books, gaming and surfing Web is enough + utilities on school for getting it.
Any advice?
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This hits it on the head:
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They're also great for most of what you named, but importantly tablets can go into "tighter" places. Your dorm room bed, a couch, or some other random place on campus are good candidates. If you've got a small bag, they're also one of those things you can toss in as a "just in case" if you need to do something your phone is unsuitable for, but don't want to bring your laptop for.
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I only use my tablet around the house and it's perfect for the living room or the bed, when I don't want to carry my ultrabook with its superfluous keyboard with me. The ultrabook is pretty light, a little less than 3 lbs, but the Nexus 10 is less than half that at 1.33 lbs. I can have a nice big, high-res screen with me at all times, one that isn't as heavy as lugging my ultrabook around.
With a tablet, you too can have a computer at your fingertips at all times! :victory:
That said, I agree with Sher and Rirere that the Nexus 10 may not be the best for writing with a stylus, though I haven't tried it. I'd guess the Note 10 would be better for that, since it has a digitizer built in. I always suggest that you try these devices out in a store before buying. I don't think an Android tablet will help you in computer science classes either, as they probably don't do anything with Android, plus you'll need a stand to keep the tablet up and a bluetooth keyboard to get any serious typing done. All the other content consumption stuff you mentioned is perfect on a tablet though.
The fundamental question is whether you value having a high-res computer with you in more places, because it is more portable than a laptop but with a bigger screen than a smartphone, albeit a computer that isn't that easy to type on unless you get a bluetooth keyboard also.
I have a Nexus 10, a Kindle, a S4 and a good/average laptop, I can tell you that for what you want the Nexus is amazing, if you want to watch a movie on it you'll see how amazing the screen is, surfing the Web is great too, and Android is with some top games, so you can enjoy it easily. If you most want to read comics and books I'd recommend you a Kindle (not the tablet), which is really the best option. Nexus 4 is already a good cellphone, but there are things that after you get hands on a tablet you see how easily they can be.
About school now. Formulas and such has no better companion than pen and paper, I already played a little with a Note 10 on a store, and it's great to handwrite, but I still think that for my math counts using a paper is the best option. However about the computer classes you can use it! Search on amazon for a case with keyboard and there is one which I really like (and have), which is so good that I typed my fanfictions on it, also I used to learn java on my Xoom with an app called "Droid Edit", which is a text editor with syntax highlight, then I installed Terminal IDE and had compiler and everything ready to learn. Guess what? It worked finely !"
And at least, you can install Linux distros on it, so you can get some more things to be done! And also it works greatly .
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I would try and wait till the end of summer to make your decision. Toshiba has just announced three tablets - one lower end tablet, a 2560x1600 Tegra 4 tablet and another identical one, but with a wacom digitizer. Asus has a new 2560x1600 Infinity Transformer also with a Tegra 4. HP has there x2 android tablet coming out which didn't look too bad. Most of these are due for release in Q3 of this year. And on top of it, Samsung is holding a "Galaxy and Ativ" event on the 20th. Ativ will be a Windows device and Galaxy is an android device. Besides the Galaxy camera 2, no one really knows what to expect. Hopefully a new note tablet with better resolution, cause the current resolution is a deal breaker for a lot of people.
The Nexus ten is now a good 7 months old, although will probably be better priced than all of the above. The Tegra 4 could be great, but also could be terrible. I enjoyed my Nexus 10 when I had it earlier this year, but I think there are much better options for a school tablet coming out.
Also, I believe Intel is releasing there updated Atom processor (what Netbooks and lower range windows tabs use) towards the end of the year and is supposed to have greatly improved graphics, power, and battery life. Some of the current lower end Windows tablets run full windows 8 (like the Ativ 500T and also has a wacom digitizer for about $550) and they aren't terrible, though can be a bit sluggish. There battery life is also comparable to an android tablet.
Lastly, for school, a windows tablet may be a better choice since you won't have any compatibility issues like with android browsers. If your teacher uses online problems, demos, or chat rooms, you could run into issues running these things. I'm leaning slightly more towards Windows at the moment just for those reasons, but it all depends on how these products compare. If the android tablet is much smoother and has better battery life for 2/3 of the price, I'll just wait to get home to do something not compatible.
I've been in the same boat looking for something for school and my netbook is holding me off till the new products are released. I would recommend doing the same with your laptop, unless you can't afford more than the $400 for the Nexus 10.
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Here's another long response:
I would try and wait till the end of summer to make your decision. Toshiba has just announced three tablets - one lower end tablet, a 2560x1600 Tegra 4 tablet and another identical one, but with a wacom digitizer. Asus has a new 2560x1600 Infinity Transformer also with a Tegra 4. HP has there x2 android tablet coming out which didn't look too bad. Most of these are due for release in Q3 of this year. And on top of it, Samsung is holding a "Galaxy and Ativ" event on the 20th. Ativ will be a Windows device and Galaxy is an android device. Besides the Galaxy camera 2, no one really knows what to expect. Hopefully a new note tablet with better resolution, cause the current resolution is a deal breaker for a lot of people.
The Nexus ten is now a good 7 months old, although will probably be better priced than all of the above. The Tegra 4 could be great, but also could be terrible. I enjoyed my Nexus 10 when I had it earlier this year, but I think there are much better options for a school tablet coming out.
Also, I believe Intel is releasing there updated Atom processor (what Netbooks and lower range windows tabs use) towards the end of the year and is supposed to have greatly improved graphics, power, and battery life. Some of the current lower end Windows tablets run full windows 8 (like the Ativ 500T and also has a wacom digitizer for about $550) and they aren't terrible, though can be a bit sluggish. There battery life is also comparable to an android tablet.
Lastly, for school, a windows tablet may be a better choice since you won't have any compatibility issues like with android browsers. If your teacher uses online problems, demos, or chat rooms, you could run into issues running these things. I'm leaning slightly more towards Windows at the moment just for those reasons, but it all depends on how these products compare. If the android tablet is much smoother and has better battery life for 2/3 of the price, I'll just wait to get home to do something not compatible.
I've been in the same boat looking for something for school and my netbook is holding me off till the new products are released. I would recommend doing the same with your laptop, unless you can't afford more than the $400 for the Nexus 10.
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I honestl yplan to hold on to the N10 until December 2014 and THEN upgrade, since I dropped the $500 on the 32GB model.
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I honestl yplan to hold on to the N10 until December 2014 and THEN upgrade, since I dropped the $500 on the 32GB model.
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How does the Nexus 10 compare to a Nook HD+?
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How does the Nexus 10 compare to a Nook HD+?
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Way above it in every way, so far as I know, as well as more expensive.
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Way above it in every way, so far as I know, as well as more expensive.
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If you don't mind hacking it up though, the Nook HD+ looks like a fun little investment to slap somewhere (like a wall or something as a control panel). It may not make the best tablet but the hardware is good.
+1 for the people recommending paper/pencil. I can't do formulas another way. OP however might want to look into the LiveScribe Sky and a tablet (or use their PC); I believe I saw an ad somewhere showing off live, instant syncing from paper to tablet, which I'll have to look into myself (got a LiveScribe Echo as a work bonus, so I'm sticking with that for the moment).
It's not just a question of having an active digitizer; while the Note pen will wow in stores, writing with a stylus for any duration of time can quickly become, well, annoying. Glass just doesn't have the same tactile feel that a good pen on paper will, you'll get the "clicking" sounds from contact, and you could generally be doing something a lot more useful with your electronic device (like typing bullet points) than scrawling into it with a digitizer.
Unless, of course, by tablet, we're talking about a Wacom drawing pad.
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If you don't mind hacking it up though, the Nook HD+ looks like a fun little investment to slap somewhere (like a wall or something as a control panel). It may not make the best tablet but the hardware is good.
+1 for the people recommending paper/pencil. I can't do formulas another way. OP however might want to look into the LiveScribe Sky and a tablet (or use their PC); I believe I saw an ad somewhere showing off live, instant syncing from paper to tablet, which I'll have to look into myself (got a LiveScribe Echo as a work bonus, so I'm sticking with that for the moment).
It's not just a question of having an active digitizer; while the Note pen will wow in stores, writing with a stylus for any duration of time can quickly become, well, annoying. Glass just doesn't have the same tactile feel that a good pen on paper will, you'll get the "clicking" sounds from contact, and you could generally be doing something a lot more useful with your electronic device (like typing bullet points) than scrawling into it with a digitizer.
Unless, of course, by tablet, we're talking about a Wacom drawing pad.
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Everyone will of course have their preferences, so I'm not trying to argue right or wrong. However, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ATo3ohdwok has certainly influenced me to getting something with a wacom digitizer. She has some other videos showing note taking as well. I hate having a lot of printouts with notes on them. I also don't like typing notes on a computer but then having to draw out charts and math examples on a separate piece of paper. I'd rather have a device I can carry around almost anywhere with great battery life where everything in consolidated. It's also possible to sync to dropbox so you can get the notes on your phone(in PDF, not SNOTE format). Imagine staying on campus for whatever reason and wanting to do work for a class that you didn't bring your notes or text for. You could have everything in your Note tablet to include general handwritten notes.
Also, the note tablet comes with two different tips. One plastic that will feel like super smooth writing on glass and one rubber that has some drag to it that doesn't make "clicking" noises. I would prefer real pen and paper as well mostly because its what I'm used to, but I really like the idea of consolidating everything into one device backed up to the cloud that I can get anywhere. I'm currently doing it with powerpoint notes in dropbox and typed notes in Evernote, but unless I scan or take pictures, I can't get anything I hand write somewhere else.
Edit: I just looked up the Livescribe pen. That is pretty neat. I feel like I'd lose it though. I will continue looking into that as another option.