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OverClocking Aria

Would love to see some ROM's with SetCPU or Overclocking options. I heard the Droid could be overclocked. Wonder if Aria has a "Stable happy medium" that is around 800-1000mhz?

I don't think that It could be clocked at 1Ghz, more like 700Mhz. That just seems more likely.
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larry996 said:
Would love to see some ROM's with SetCPU or Overclocking options. I heard the Droid could be overclocked. Wonder if Aria has a "Stable happy medium" that is around 800-1000mhz?
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I would definitely enjoy 1Ghz on my little buddy. Sort of a mini Nexus

Has anyone even tried to overclock?

jznomoney said:
Has anyone even tried to overclock?
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Never saw a stock kernel you could overclock. You could download setcpu and play with it. Maybe once we get some custom kernels it will work.
Not sure where the problem is with speed though - this thing is pretty zippy as it is.

Yea, it's pretty fast to me. I think the 600Mhz processor must be a different design than the old 528Mhz processor, because it seems to be much faster. I'm pretty satisfied as it is. Is there a certain app that is running too slow on your phone?

Yeah I agree that the processor Is great as is. I havent noticed any lag at all. even 3d games are running without lag for the most part. If it were overclocked the only difference I think that could be needed is performance with the gpu. Set cpu cant overclock the stock kernel but if we do get a custom kernel im sure we'd be able to overclock it.
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You can never have too much performance. I would love to be able to overclock.
Gpu wise we're fine as we have the same one as the Incredible and Evo, but our cpu is a bit weak. The Incredible and Evo, while they may not be any faster through the menus, are able to do things like loading web pages faster than us because of their faster cpu.

gtg465x said:
You can never have too much performance. I would love to be able to overclock.
Gpu wise we're fine as we have the same one as the Incredible and Evo, but our cpu is a bit weak. The Incredible and Evo, while they may not be any faster through the menus, are able to do things like loading web pages faster than us because of their faster cpu.
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What makes you say the CPU is weak? I'm don't buy for a second that the CPU is a gating web page refresh speeds.
The CPU is not the same architecture as the old 528 mhz HTCs. The Aria does not need a 1 ghz Snapdragon to perform very well given the graphics requirement of the screen which has far less resolution to manage and requires far less from the both CPU and GPU, and given that this is a small smartphone, and not a game deck. You can't underestimate the difference in power required to drive a 480x800 compared to a 320x480 display. It's enormous for devices like these.
I am sure in time this device will be overclocked by some just because it can be, but the vast majority of us aren't worried about playing Warcraft on the Aria. People who want to do that aren't looking at the Aria is the first place, with it's 3.2" screen, which fits nicely wherever a portable phone might, but isn't going to make anyone go "oh wow, is that a flatscreen tv in your pocket or are you happy to see me?"
If you want to overclock yours, you are perfectly free to do so - once we get another kernel choice that supports it.

I think when you consider running Flash on your phone, there is NO such thing as too much performance.

When you consider full screen flash at 320x480 vs 480x800, the Aria can hold it's own against the larger Snapdragons. If the Aria has trouble with full screen flash, it's not because of the Aria, and it's not because the processor is weak.

attn1 said:
When you consider full screen flash at 320x480 vs 480x800, the Aria can hold it's own against the larger Snapdragons. If the Aria has trouble with full screen flash, it's not because of the Aria, and it's not because the processor is weak.
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I concede that you have a point.

we might need a kernal that support over 600mhz .

How did they overclock the driod? Is that kernel or setcpu?
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Using the kernel eljefe27 links and overclockwidget I was able to overclock to 806mhz and get a higher quadrant score. I'm running ATTN1's fr006 rom(froyo+sense.) All apps stable as far as I can tell and network functional. Under advanced settings the app can define its own possible overclock values for the CPU. I'm wondering if its missing higher clocks, as there is the option to set them manually. Im just scared to, lol.
Because I can't post outside links, the kernel can be found hya:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821933&highlight=overclock
Edit: unstable, nevermind

light24bulbs said:
Using the kernel eljefe27 links and overclockwidget I was able to overclock to 806mhz and get a higher quadrant score. I'm running ATTN1's fr006 rom(froyo+sense.) All apps stable as far as I can tell and network functional. Under advanced settings the app can define its own possible overclock values for the CPU. I'm wondering if its missing higher clocks, as there is the option to set them manually. Im just scared to, lol.
Because I can't post outside links, the kernel can be found hya:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821933&highlight=overclock
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Untrue. It may be unstable for you but not everyone. I'm currently running at 825mhz, was running at 844mhz.
Your mileage may vary.

I heard overclocking 33% over stock is a good benchmark for performance.

A tip for a faster transformer

I just wanted to let everyone know I found that if I installed cpu master free version and set it to 608 / 1000 set to boot on and performance selected, my tab runs a whole lot smoother. My wife is able to play bejewelled blitz on facebook with it now so she is happy.
Seems the stock kernels are very Conservative on the scaling and never really run at 1000mhz till you really nail them.
If the battery life sucks a little more, which to me wasn't a biggie cause I get 3 days out of it you can buy CPU Master full version for 1.99 and it will allow you to run a screen off setting too.
Setcpu has done nothing but bogged my transformer down and my nexus S so I tried this one and it doesn't so I am passing on the info.
I am not associated with Cpu Master in any way.
If I helped you click on my THANKS button!

I assume you need to be rooted for this ?

Sounds very interesting ...I may have to try this out.
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blankers said:
I assume you need to be rooted for this ?
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yes root is required

thanks for the tip...it does seem snappier....

Share your overclocking speeds here!

Share your overclocking speeds here,
mine is fixed at 1.4GHz

Mine fixed at 1.5, governor InteractiveX
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1.3ghz, won't go any higher, don't plan on getting a new phone for another year so I don't want the cpu to **** up right now.

Can someone tell me the differences between the different governors and I/O scheduler? I am running 1.4ghz with ondemand nowadays
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eugenechiuu said:
Can someone tell me the differences between the different governors and I/O scheduler? I am running 1.4ghz with ondemand nowadays
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CPU scaling governors controls the CPU clock speed according to CPU load, based on the governor you are using. In setCPU there is a site that explains the various governors.
I/o schedulers controls the resources given to processes. Don't know too much about that.
Correct me if I'm wrong

Mines at 1ghz at all times until i play a snes/genesis emu then i put it to 1.9ghz, it's the only 100mhz step that stops the crackling sounds, and it can go to 2ghz stable but no point in stressing it past 1.9ghz

Mine is running at original 1Ghz and I don't feel the need to overclock at all. When playing FPse and Snes9x the games run very well anyway. I don't get any crackling sound unless I play in an area with bad reception so it searches network all the time.

ff7fan4eva said:
Mines at 1ghz at all times until i play a snes/genesis emu then i put it to 1.9ghz, it's the only 100mhz step that stops the crackling sounds, and it can go to 2ghz stable but no point in stressing it past 1.9ghz
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doesn't anyone else get crackling sound in SNESDroid, GENPlusDroid?
there the only two old snes/gen emu's that give 100% graphical/sound reproduction but need a lot of cpu/gpu
All the other emu's give me crappy sound/glitches in secret of evermore, and the water in chemical plant in sonic 2 is missing sooo..

ff7fan4eva said:
doesn't anyone else get crackling sound in SNESDroid, GENPlusDroid?
there the only two old snes/gen emu's that give 100% graphical/sound reproduction but need a lot of cpu/gpu
All the other emu's give me crappy sound/glitches in secret of evermore, and the water in chemical plant in sonic 2 is missing sooo..
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Have you tried Snes9x? SNESdroid is based on Snes9x and is a bad rippoff. Snes9x is like the true Snes9x that is available for PC and has better sound/emulation than SNESdroid. Besides, you paid for SNESdroid right? The author of that app illegally took money for that emulator as its based on open-source. That's a reason why it was pulled of the market.
You can find Snes9x on explusalpha.com

dannejanne said:
Have you tried Snes9x? SNESdroid is based on Snes9x and is a bad rippoff. Snes9x is like the true Snes9x that is available for PC and has better sound/emulation than SNESdroid. Besides, you paid for SNESdroid right? The author of that app illegally took money for that emulator as its based on open-source. That's a reason why it was pulled of the market.
You can find Snes9x on explusalpha.com
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DL Secret of evermore and go to the menu/enter name and listen to how bad that sounds, now play it with SNESDroid
Hear the difference?

The droid emulators are slower because they have more accurate emulation not because its a worse emulator, it even has things like shader support. Plus most of that devs emus are open source which is awesome! If you want them for free just compile them yourself.

ff7fan4eva said:
DL Secret of evermore and go to the menu/enter name and listen to how bad that sounds, now play it with SNESDroid
Hear the difference?
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Never played that game. I'm sure this can be applied between other games vice versa. In my experience though all games I play runs as well or better in Snes9x. Never stumbled upon a game so far that for me sounds bad or bugs in graphics.
Another thing with that emulator that I love is that you can turn off linear filtering for the graphics so the pixels are intact without blurring the heck out of them. Only that feature alone is worth a lot for me.
But personal taste is like the ass. It's divided =)

dannejanne said:
Never played that game. I'm sure this can be applied between other games vice versa. In my experience though all games I play runs as well or better in Snes9x. Never stumbled upon a game so far that for me sounds bad or bugs in graphics.
Another thing with that emulator that I love is that you can turn off linear filtering for the graphics so the pixels are intact without blurring the heck out of them. Only that feature alone is worth a lot for me.
But personal taste is like the ass. It's divided =)
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lol, but there are other games, so yeah use whatever emulators you want, let make this thread focus on OC Speeds

ff7fan4eva said:
lol, but there are other games, so yeah use whatever emulators you want, let make this thread focus on OC Speeds
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Yeah. I apologize.
I'm curious. Our phones go as high as 2Ghz? Sounds insane. Doesn't it kill the battery?
My Play at 1Ghz feels a lot faster than my HTC Z did when it was clocked to 1.2Ghz.
Quadrant score on my Z was 2500. On my Play it is around 1300 unclocked. Which leads me to believe the Quadrant scores are pretty much useless for comparison as my Z needed over 1Ghz for games to run smooth while they run perfectly smooth on my Play at 1Ghz.

dannejanne said:
Yeah. I apologize.
I'm curious. Our phones go as high as 2Ghz? Sounds insane. Doesn't it kill the battery?
My Play at 1Ghz feels a lot faster than my HTC Z did when it was clocked to 1.2Ghz.
Quadrant score on my Z was 2500. On my Play it is around 1300 unclocked. Which leads me to believe the Quadrant scores are pretty much useless for comparison as my Z needed over 1Ghz for games to run smooth while they run perfectly smooth on my Play at 1Ghz.
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I suppose it's different architectures of arm cpu's and different instruction sets that makes a game/program run faster on one but not the other.
And i wouldnt trust quadrant to save my life, i get 1600 to 1800 underclocked and 2500 to 2900 overclocked to 1.9GHz then 2500 below for 2GHz so i dont know.
Also battery life is quite bad at 1.9ghz but runs out significantly slower on 1.7ghz

Hi,
fast and stable at 1.6Ghz using performance governor on default use. 122Mhz powersave on idle, and original 1.0Ghz ondemand for calls

1.2ghz on demand here but I can go to 2ghz.

Sitting solid at 1.4 ghz smartass v2 governor 122 mhz idle
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Permanent Brick through OC ?

I would love to know how many people have hardware bricked their xplay through extreme Overclocking. You will hear many warnings about bricking your phone through OCing on the forums but I don't know of one person who has actually done it. I always feel a little uncomfortable when I OC my devicedue to the fear of hardware failure.

Ive been running mine overclocked to 1.5Ghz for about 24hrs now with no issue
Between 1.2 and 1.5 are the safe operating parameters for the Xperia Play. It differs from handset to handset though. Yours might be unstable at a lower overclock than mine for example.
Best thing to do if you plan on OCing is to try it in increments to find the limit for your Play. If it starts acting unstable at say, 1.5Ghz, then set it to the setting below that (1.4)

1,6 is save for me at 2,0 GhZ it stocked and i have to restart my phone^^

OC
It's like PC CPU overclocking. When you give it too high frequency, it may reboot. Here is potential hazard. If the phone don't turn off, it can burn your phone CPU. But there also (like on PC) many things, that may prevent crash.

You can always use the app Stability Test from Android Market to see which OC speed is best for your phone.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.into.stability&hl=en

1.9ghz with all governors and I/O settings work for me.
Once I select 2.0ghz the phone shuts off. I never changed voltage values. Perhaps a bump in voltage would get me to 2.0ghz?
I'm not so keen on taking such a risk anyway.
I do think not all Xperia Plays are created equally and consider myself lucky to reach 1.9ghz. The only time I overclock it that high is when I'm using N64oid or GTA3 to prevent occasional lag.
I think 1.6ghz is the sweetspot for most phones.

1.6 ghz smartass v2 all day everyday!
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It's interesting that not a single person has replied saying it has actually caused hardware failure, just instability and a reboot

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1.6 ghz smartass v2 all day everyday!
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Same here
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same here to runs sweet as a nut

mulllen666 said:
It's interesting that not a single person has replied saying it has actually caused hardware failure, just instability and a reboot
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Must be some kind of safety shutoff built in
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CTU_Loscombe said:
Must be some kind of safety shutoff built in
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One time that I overclocked mine at 1.9 GHz and let it run a stress test it froze after a while and didn't reboot until I removed the battery, but it didn't get damaged even though it got pretty hot. Weird...
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I've burnt out a CPU in my laptop before, so I don't and won't over clock.
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KeiranFTW said:
I've burnt out a CPU in my laptop before, so I don't and won't over clock.
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I find it funny that you make kernels that allow overclocking but don't overclock your phone
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leots said:
I find it funny that you make kernels that allow overclocking but don't overclock your phone
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Not really?
That's like saying its funny how people go to war but don't shoot themselves
No, I put OC in the kernels as I understand people use over locking. However, I don't offer any higher that 1.6GHz as higher than that dramatically reduces the lifespan of the device.
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leots said:
Same here
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I have cooked a few graphics cards in my time so never push my play more than 1.6 ghz I dont want this badboy to break in any way

I have to use 1.6 using doomkernal with smartass. If I go any higher then that, Dolphin Mini won't load properly :/

So who has run their phone at 1.4ghz or above for say a year or more?
My PC has been running an OC of about 30% for about 2 years. I know it will shorten the lifespan of my hardware, but who will keep a PC for 10 years anyway. It will be a dinosaur by then.
If I get 2 years from my phone that is enough

I don't see the point of overclocking all the time... for battery saving if nothing else...(?) Maybe the preinstalled R800i UK stock ROM is better and less bloated than what some people get, but 1GHz with the Snapdragon is fine for general use... web browsing, Shadowgun, Asphalt 6, FIFA, Riptide ... all ran well when I wasn't even rooted. Those games are sold for our phones anyway...
But 1.7GHz is definitely over the limit for me as well. Freeze / reboot after a few minutes.

Since Im using DoomKernel my phone is allways overclocked and i have no problems
For daily usage im using MAX 1,3 / MIN 1,0 and GOUV: Smartassv2 or Powersave.
Only for Quadrant tests sometimes i really set it to 1,8 GHZ

Got the play to 2.1GHz

Title says it all
Edit and a 15MHz GPU overclock and should I go higher maybe 2.2GHz

extremetempz said:
Title says it all
Edit and a 15MHz GPU overclock
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Wow I'm surprised your play didn't explode lol
OT: are you still going to make that cm7 ROM you mentioned a while back because I'm sure lots of people are interested
Edit: can you tell what kernel/ROM you used and how you did it. Thanks
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abdel12345 said:
Wow I'm surprised your play didn't explode lol
OT: are you still going to make that cm7 ROM you mentioned a while back because I'm sure lots of people are interested
Edit: can you tell what kernel/ROM you used and how you did it. Thanks
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I need to fix lots of errors with the GB and I modified lupus v10 GB kernel

extremetempz said:
Title says it all
Edit and a 15MHz GPU overclock
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Water cooling?

SmokeyTheAggie said:
Water cooling?
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Water cooled would be soo awesome !

there is a theory by turgot, that increasing a faktor wont increase the outcome at a specific point anymore. therefore i would be really interested how your play handles games at that oc. not only a benchmark, something like a video where its possible to see occouring errors, if there are any
this is great work you did, and it may allows some modification to the play.yes im thinking about cooling..even if it wont be that portable anymore. thanks for your help

2.3GHz
I'm currently going where no developer would go before my customized kernel has 26 CPU frequinces all up and a max of 2.3GHz
But without the GPU overclock and a 8mb GPU memory vs Lupus and dooms 4mb

i cant go even more than 1.6ghz

Needed an extra cooler solution and an powerful battery, like Mugen 3600mAh, to maintain this level of OC for diary use. Would be amazing!

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But without the GPU overclock and a 8mb GPU memory vs Lupus and dooms 4mb
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Wait, what? Lupus Kernel offers increased amount of VRAM?

IMHO this is perfectly fine if you don't care so much about the device, otherwise you would be crazy. OC'ng so high will eventually cause in-reversable damage. I know what your doing so no need for me to ask questions But even if its stable for you it wont be for others all depends on the chip and as we know each is different. Also even if people don't use 2.x ghz frequencies tend to jump to the highest for a mili second if even on boot, causing problems with the device actually booting.
Well just my 2 cents on OC'ing...

wedgess said:
IMHO this is perfectly fine if you don't care so much about the device, otherwise you would be crazy. OC'ng so high will eventually cause in-reversable damage. I know what your doing so no need for me to ask questions But even if its stable for you it wont be for others all depends on the chip and as we know each is different. Also even if people don't use 2.x ghz frequencies tend to jump to the highest for a mili second if even on boot, causing problems with the device actually booting.
Well just my 2 cents on OC'ing...
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What about 2 cents on this VRAM apparently being doubled?
At the end of the day its not GMEM which is essentially like a processors cache. Our chip has 256kb of it. But the allocated VMEM, would upping it to 8MB provide any sort of performance increase?
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Spizzy01 said:
What about 2 cents on this VRAM apparently being doubled?
At the end of the day its not GMEM which is essentially like a processors cache. Our chip has 256kb of it. But the allocated VMEM, would upping it to 8MB provide any sort of performance increase?
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So it's true then? How can it be possible?
Wow. Just wow.

Extremetempz, your username fits so well with this thread.

extremetempz said:
Title says it all
Edit and a 15MHz GPU overclock and should I go higher maybe 2.2GHz
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Can you get a stable 2.0ghz if so how do you do it?
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psxpetey said:
Can you get a stable 2.0ghz if so how do you do it?
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I don't know it just works up to 2.2GHz and then crash but my brothers play can only reach 1.6GHz every device is diferent

extremetempz said:
I don't know it just works up to 2.2GHz and then crash but my brothers play can only reach 1.6GHz every device is diferent
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Can you post some benchmarks for the CPU? And also tell us more about the VRAM... Did it make any difference?

I believe that the Xplay has good chances of reach 2.0GHZ, running fine, provided has an good thermal solution. In my test, the games run fine for some minutes, before start overheat. Needed of somebody to build an custom cooler, then, make some tests. In my opinion, the safe clock, for sure, is not only 1.6GHZ. Only for default cooler.

leots said:
Can you post some benchmarks for the CPU? And also tell us more about the VRAM... Did it make any difference?
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I CBF screen shooting but CPU at 2.1 is around 20% faster then 1.6 and the GPU is around 25% faster with a 2600 3d score in antutu without adrenobooster

I know it's kind of not allowed to redistribute this but can u upload the kernel and send it ti me (PM) cus I will take some screens ans my play can handle 2GHz fine but bootloops when gaming after about 30-50 minutwa (depends on intensity of game!)
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