Possable hack or glitch, that is why I am posting here.
According to a few sites, a glitch has been discovered by setting a proxy, you can make your non-nokia phone be able install apps from Nokia's apps.
Sites for info...
http://www.microsofttranslator.com/...n&a=http://www.wpdang.com/archives/98835.html
http://www.wpdang.com/archives/98835.html
http://www.wpcentral.com/glitch-spotted-windows-phone-store-lumia-apps
Does anyone have clear directions on this so everyone knows how to do it?
Also, I am hoping this would allow us to get to the point of a Marketplace Changer like we used to have for WP7 devices.. I personally would like some HTC apps on my Nokia...and a LG app too.
Figured this would be a great place to start a discussion on this.
The basic "hack" is dead simple, actually. In a way, this is easier than the old Marketplace Switching apps; those worked by changing some configuration files on the phone; this works by editing the communication between the phone and the Marketplace servers *as if* those files had been changed.
It's probably worth the time to write up a small utility to do this yourself, rather than relying on a third party proxy (never a good plan if you don't have to do it). It might even be possible to make the proxy run as an app on the phone itself (it would need to be sideloaded, since there's no way MS would permit such a thing, and you'd probably still need to be on WiFi, but it might be possible).
DavidinCT said:
Possable hack or glitch, that is why I am posting here.
According to a few sites, a glitch has been discovered by setting a proxy, you can make your non-nokia phone be able install apps from Nokia's apps.
Sites for info...
http://www.microsofttranslator.com/...n&a=http://www.wpdang.com/archives/98835.html
http://www.wpdang.com/archives/98835.html
http://www.wpcentral.com/glitch-spotted-windows-phone-store-lumia-apps
Does anyone have clear directions on this so everyone knows how to do it?
Also, I am hoping this would allow us to get to the point of a Marketplace Changer like we used to have for WP7 devices.. I personally would like some HTC apps on my Nokia...and a LG app too.
Figured this would be a great place to start a discussion on this.
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Guyz, I've tried this on my Huawei W1 but its says, cannot connect,,,,,,,,,, ive also tried changing the region but nothing happens, does anyone tried this already, and successfully installed those nokia exclusive apps?
Thank you,
jakelq said:
Guyz, I've tried this on my Huawei W1 but its says, cannot connect,,,,,,,,,, ive also tried changing the region but nothing happens, does anyone tried this already, and successfully installed those nokia exclusive apps?
Thank you,
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it is time based. I mean, sometimes it happens. sometime it doesnt. keep trying is all I can say.
GH0ST DR0NE said:
it is time based. I mean, sometimes it happens. sometime it doesnt. keep trying is all I can say.
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yup, i tried this at home and it worked..
It runs smooth with huawei w1 and i dont experience any missed swipes.
Why does it wasnt released for 512 mb ram?
tnx.
GoodDayToDie said:
The basic "hack" is dead simple, actually. In a way, this is easier than the old Marketplace Switching apps; those worked by changing some configuration files on the phone; this works by editing the communication between the phone and the Marketplace servers *as if* those files had been changed.
It's probably worth the time to write up a small utility to do this yourself, rather than relying on a third party proxy (never a good plan if you don't have to do it). It might even be possible to make the proxy run as an app on the phone itself (it would need to be sideloaded, since there's no way MS would permit such a thing, and you'd probably still need to be on WiFi, but it might be possible).
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I would gladly test (I am dev unlocked) anything you can come up with here.
Anything that could help progress towards a hack on WP8, even if it's a marketplace changer of some type
aclegg2011 said:
Man, we really need to find a way to dev unlock our phones. :/
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The same process (dreamspark EDU account, etc) that worked for WP7 works on WP8 but, the limits of 3 apps are still there... So I can sideload 3 apps..
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The same process (dreamspark EDU account, etc) that worked for WP7 works on WP8 but, the limits of 3 apps are still there... So I can sideload 3 apps..
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I have an edu account activated since december 2011. I had on my Omnia W (WP 7.5) only the possibility to sideload 3 apps, but now on my lumia 820 i DONT have this limit of 3 apps..
gipfelgoas said:
I have an edu account activated since december 2011. I had on my Omnia W (WP 7.5) only the possibility to sideload 3 apps, but now on my lumia 820 i dont have this limit of 3 apps..
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I have a Lumia 928, and I dev unlocked it(got one of those free EDU accounts that was going around, I log in 2 times a year), I put on 3 apps and it gives me an error if I try to add more.
I would like to add more but, No biggie because there is not 3rd party tools or hacks for WP8....YET.
DavidinCT said:
I have a Lumia 928, and I dev unlocked it(got one of those free EDU accounts that was going around, I log in 2 times a year), I put on 3 apps and it gives me an error if I try to add more.
I would like to add more but, No biggie because there is not 3rd party tools or hacks for WP8....YET.
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I dont mind but it seems that my account has a bug..?!?
GoodDayToDie said:
The basic "hack" is dead simple, actually. In a way, this is easier than the old Marketplace Switching apps; those worked by changing some configuration files on the phone; this works by editing the communication between the phone and the Marketplace servers *as if* those files had been changed.
It's probably worth the time to write up a small utility to do this yourself, rather than relying on a third party proxy (never a good plan if you don't have to do it). It might even be possible to make the proxy run as an app on the phone itself (it would need to be sideloaded, since there's no way MS would permit such a thing, and you'd probably still need to be on WiFi, but it might be possible).
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Here is a question on this. Is there a list of "proxies" for different carriers/OEMS ? I could not find anything besides this one. Do you know how I can access HTC, Samsung, LG, etc list ?
How does one access the marketplace of another OEM than Nokia ? (I have a Nokia so that is not an issue for me)
It's just a matter of changing the ID string for the phone when it's talking to the Marketplace servers. I'll look into writing a tool to do it.
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It's just a matter of changing the ID string for the phone when it's talking to the Marketplace servers. I'll look into writing a tool to do it.
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Awsome, I look forward to something ! Thanks !
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It's just a matter of changing the ID string for the phone when it's talking to the Marketplace servers. I'll look into writing a tool to do it.
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Hi ,GoodDayToDie
Try fiddler2 to modify the request send by the phone when talking to the Marketplace servers.
I have made some research and it's intresting.....
@Mattemoller90: Yes, but I can't promise that the app will install correctly afterward. Apps identify, in their manifests, the resolutions they support. If the app requires resolution that the phone doesn't have, the phone will most likely simply refuse to install it.
@GoodDayToDie
How can I cheat the Marketplace with Fiddler2 (for change the resolution) I want try
You are the best
Eh, I'm not going to write a full tutorial right now. Short version is install Fiddler, set it to proxy external connections (will need to be let through your firewall), set your phone to use your PC's IP address and Fiddler's listening port as the proxy, set Fiddler to intercept requests, and then open the Marketplace. You'll see an HTTP GET request from the phone to Microsoft's servers, and the URL will contain a bunch of details about your phone (manufacturer, model, version info, region, etc.) including resolution. Replace the resolution string with the one you want to pretend to have, then have Fiddler "Run to completion".
Note: You'll probably have to do this multiple times. It's OK to not do it for things like partial searches, but you'll of course need to do it for the final search query. It can be scripted, but that's outside the scope of what I'm going to tell you to do here. Look at how @xdevilium does it in his app: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2362165
Can fiddler be used for other things? Like seeing where server updates are coming from, and how are phones interacts with developer registration?
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In theory, yes it can (or any other HTTP/HTTPS proxy; there are several of them available). However, the functions you describe use HTTPS. To intercept SSL traffic, the proxy needs to forge certificates for the sites you connect to (unless it somehow got ahold of the site's private key). To have your phone trust the forged certificates, the proxy (including Fiddler, if you choose to enable it) can sign the forged certificates using its own private key; if the corresponding public key is trusted by the phone (which can be done just by sending the public key to the phone using email or bluetooth or something, and installing it) then the forged signatures will be trusted.
However, that's only true for the general case. For specific OS functionality, Microsoft (and all the other big mobile vendors) use a technique called "certificate pinning" where the SSL certificate must either exactly match a known certifiacte, or must be signed by an exact match. In this case, it doesn't work to install your proxy's certificate and have it be trusted; a feature using cert pinning doesn't even check the OS's trust store. Therefore, we can't intercept those specific communications.
It's frustrating.
I've never scripted Fiddler, I just re-wrote the requests by hand. It's easy enough; there aren't very many. I could tell you how to do it in a couple other proxy programs.
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I could tell you how to do it in a couple other proxy programs.
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I Really Appreciate That
Related
Hey Everyone,
Wanted to tell all of you about a neat app we're developing, called Flexilis.
It's a mobile security suite for Windows Mobile devices, that keeps your device and data safe from loss, theft, hackers, viruses, malware, spam, and more.
We've currently opened signups for our private beta testing, if you're interested in checking it out, just hit up http://beta.flexilis.com and sign up, and feel free to chat about the product here
If anyone has questions or runs into trouble, just shoot us an email at [email protected] and we'll help you out!
-Chris
Community Director,
Flexilis Inc.
[email protected]
Also, if any of you request an invite and it hasnt gotten granted within a day or so, let me know and I'll take care of it.
If you weren't asking for so much personal information, you might actually get people to try your app...
we're actually working on revising that, the reason we ask for the phone number is because it's used to sms you your download link for the software later on in the process, we're in the process of moving that to later on in the process, as well as an explanation of why we ask for it.
Thanks for the feedback!
-Chris
NRGZ28 said:
If you weren't asking for so much personal information, you might actually get people to try your app...
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Hey man,
nice thing with this soft, that we give the phone number is not so a big problem i think. could you post a little bit infos about the program? Cause on your side there a not many informations.
But i ithink i'll give it a try...
I just have one little question, on you privacy page you write:
When you use the Flexilis Services, our servers automatically record certain information about your usage. These logs may include information such as the IP address, mobile device identification number, phone number, operating system, version information, wireless carrier, web requests, browser type, browser language, referring pages, landing pages, pages viewed, or other usage information.
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Why do record the pages we visit?
we're still working on a little bit of a tour/walkthrough area of the software on the front page, as we get closer to public beta, but for now there's nothing there yet. My first post in this thread gives a brief summary of it though. Feel free to shoot me an email at [email protected] with any questions!
-Chris
There's nothing in the software that tracks the pages you view or anything, what that refers to is on our end we track what pages users use on the flexilis website the most, much the same way other websites do, to track what pages and content on our site our most popular, etc.
JeckyllHavok said:
I just have one little question, on you privacy page you write:
Why do record the pages we visit?
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I'm still not sure what your program do, but it certainly doesn't behave the way I expect.
1) Why to require authorization so often?
2) Contrary to the stated phone number is not accepted for authorization. Only email.
3) I don't really know what you mean by "a few minutes", but currently Flexilis is authorizing my phone already for more than two hours. I see no progress bar and I don't understan what's going.
4) I can't stop authorization process.
5) Why the authorization process continues even when I close all connections? Did you invent new method of communication?
6) The program is hidden from task managers and process viewers. What for?
I didn't sniff the traffic but currently behavior of your program reminds more of malware rather than security software.
My conclusion: As I don't understand what your program is doing, I'm not going to test it anymore until additional guidance is provided.
Sorry, if I'm sounding harsh. It's just writing style (tough work, you know )
No worries
1] once it's authorized the first time, it shouldnt have to authorize again, what kind of phone are you authorizing it on? we're making some fixes to the authorization process to make it even simpler that should roll out in the next release.
2] if you're outside of the US, you might need to add your country code and such if that's the case, let me know, or send me an email to [email protected] so we can look into it.
3] per all authorization questions, it'll try til its authorized, again we're fixing this.
4] per the it being hidden from task managers, we've given this some discussion, for right now it's a security feature to try to prevent theives from disabling the software, though we might fix that in the future to have the app visible in there somehow.
As far as being more indepth on all of the features, we are working on a tour of sorts to explain it all before the beta goes public.
Thanks for the feedback!
-Chris
mrcaze said:
I'm still not sure what your program do, but it certainly doesn't behave the way I expect.
1) Why to require authorization so often?
2) Contrary to the stated phone number is not accepted for authorization. Only email.
3) I don't really know what you mean by "a few minutes", but currently Flexilis is authorizing my phone already for more than two hours. I see no progress bar and I don't understan what's going.
4) I can't stop authorization process.
5) Why the authorization process continues even when I close all connections? Did you invent new method of communication?
6) The program is hidden from task managers and process viewers. What for?
I didn't sniff the traffic but currently behavior of your program reminds more of malware rather than security software.
My conclusion: As I don't understand what your program is doing, I'm not going to test it anymore until additional guidance is provided.
Sorry, if I'm sounding harsh. It's just writing style (tough work, you know )
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Authorizing a device ... what a hassle. I finally gave up since I couldn't tell if it was doing anything. No more testing for or feedback from me.
fredcatsmommy: sorry it didnt work out for you. hopefully in the future when that's fixed (should be less than a week), we can lure you back, it does some amazing stuff, but we do run into bugs from time to time due to the vast number of windows mobile devices out there, and only having a small test bed of them to work with. Keep your eyes peeled, and we'll have that fixed soon!
fredcatsmommy said:
Authorizing a device ... what a hassle. I finally gave up since I couldn't tell if it was doing anything. No more testing for or feedback from me.
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I think you need to tell us what the app actually does?
I have read this and your site and still don't know what it does?
Will hold off on trying it till I know.
How long is the initializing and activating supposed to take?
seriously, the authorizing bugs should have been worked out before releasing a beta here. we cant even tell if its running, authorizing, stealing information from our devices, etc.. I surely hope this is a legit app youre pushing, if so, FIX IT, so we can at least see what it does.
thx
I installed and authorized with no issues what-so-ever... contrary to what everyone else is saying everything seems to work just fine. works great and doesn't seem to take much memory... not a single complaint here!
Advertising your application for beta purposes is usually not a problem. But, it seems you are here more for "recruiting" testers than anything else. Looks like you joined for this purpose only.
My suggestion to you, is to give a little more description on your develpoment. Seems there are too many questions going unanswered here.
jhw549 said:
I installed and authorized with no issues what-so-ever... contrary to what everyone else is saying everything seems to work just fine. works great and doesn't seem to take much memory... not a single complaint here!
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what device do you have? did you do anything special to get it working?
I have a sprint vogue and installed to main mem and the data conn. is constantly active.
Polargoat said:
what device do you have? did you do anything special to get it working?
I have a sprint vogue and installed to main mem and the data conn. is constantly active.
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I have an HTC Mobul/Titan using default Rom/Radio with WinMo 6.1
To install it I just did what I would any other and installed it onto internal memory...
Correction: The application works just fine if you don't have push e-mail (aren't connected to a remote exchange server), I have been having problems all day with my push e-mail from mail2web which I use to forward my work e-mail to my phone. I have therefore decided to remove it as I can't afford to have it interfere with work.
has anyone tried this yet...
http://www.chevronwp7.com/post/1679668269/windows-phone-7-unlocker-released#disqus_thread
i did it to mine but now need some 3rd party apps to try.. the hello world app is the only one ive found...
kawgirlval69 said:
has anyone tried this yet...
http://www.chevronwp7.com/post/1679668269/windows-phone-7-unlocker-released#disqus_thread
i did it to mine but now need some 3rd party apps to try.. the hello world app is the only one ive found...
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More importantly, anyone else getting a virus hit on the file by the name of WS.Reputation.1?
I posted on this subject in the development thread.
I wasn't sure if this subject belongs here or there.
Now comes an article raising the possibility of the phone being blacklisted on the marketplace when MS detects the unlock has taken place:
http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2010/11/25/windows-phone-7-unlocker-released/
Worse than a virus hit. I actually got it. It changed my host file by adding a couple localhost redirects... Every time I clicked on a Google seach result, it would redirect me to some crappy excuse of a search engine. Relatively easy to fix though.
no virus hit and havent encountered the redirect problem... am wondering the same with the blacklist issue but i guess it will be a wait and see as with most unlock/jailbreak issues...
n8huntsman said:
Worse than a virus hit. I actually got it. It changed my host file by adding a couple localhost redirects... Every time I clicked on a Google seach result, it would redirect me to some crappy excuse of a search engine. Relatively easy to fix though.
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LOL...man, is this typical or what? I can see this Windows Phone business is going to be an uphill struggle every step of every way. Swell.
wildbilll said:
I posted on this subject in the development thread.
I wasn't sure if this subject belongs here or there.
Now comes an article raising the possibility of the phone being blacklisted on the marketplace when MS detects the unlock has taken place:
http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2010/11/25/windows-phone-7-unlocker-released/
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While MS might know if you unlock your phone to sideload apps I don't think they'll take the step of banning a user completely from the marketplace. Doing so would backfire because there is no way this user is ever going to pay for an app; he'll be forced to look for cracked ones, not something MS would want.
Also from this message, it doesn't seem they are taking this sideloading business too seriously, which is good. Now XDA, please bring on some goodies. I need a File Explorer and a Media Player like free version of old Core Player
rexian said:
While MS might know if you unlock your phone to sideload apps I don't think they'll take the step of banning a user completely from the marketplace. Doing so would backfire because there is no way this user is ever going to pay for an app; he'll be forced to look for cracked ones, not something MS would want.
Also from this message, it doesn't seem they are taking this sideloading business too seriously, which is good. Now XDA, please bring on some goodies. I need a File Explorer and a Media Player like free version of old Core Player
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i THINK THAT WOULD DEPEND ON JUST HOW MANY PEOPLE UNLOCK THEIR PHONES... KILLING A FEW THOUSAND TO SEND A MESSAGE MIGHT JUST BE WHAT MS DOES..
Windows Phone 8 technically only allows apps to be installed from the marketplace.
However, Microsoft pretty much has left us with an avenue that would allow us to easily create our own custom 3rd party marketplaces.
With Windows Phone 8, Microsoft has introduced the "company app store" concept. This is originally intended to allow companies to easily distribute LOB applications to its employees.
http://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/business/custom-hub?wa=wsignin1.0
Note how the whole system pretty much relies on a certificate. Anyone with the certificate can sideload applications signed with said certificate.
Now this gives me the idea, why can't the homebrew community purchase their own certificate, and use it to create a 3rd party homebrew marketplace?
the_tyrant said:
Windows Phone 8 technically only allows apps to be installed from the marketplace.
However, Microsoft pretty much has left us with an avenue that would allow us to easily create our own custom 3rd party marketplaces.
With Windows Phone 8, Microsoft has introduced the "company app store" concept. This is originally intended to allow companies to easily distribute LOB applications to its employees.
http://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/business/custom-hub?wa=wsignin1.0
Note how the whole system pretty much relies on a certificate. Anyone with the certificate can sideload applications signed with said certificate.
Now this gives me the idea, why can't the homebrew community purchase their own certificate, and use it to create a 3rd party homebrew marketplace?
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Let's bump this up, shall we? (Since I'm not going to bother making my own thread, if nobody is going to reply to it)
Here's what I've learned through my evaluation of the company app system. The requirements are simple:
-Company Dev Center account
--Requires that you have a legally registered company (e.g. an LLC), which is verified by Symantec
--$99 plus whatever fees are associated with the LLC
-Symantec Signing certificate
--Requires the company dev center account
--$299
This is actually much less than I thought, as I was expecting this to be limited to the enterprise. Rather, anyone with chump change and some legal papers can get a certificate that allows anyone to sideload apps.
The legal papers is where it gets complicated, unfortunately. If it were just the money, I'd honestly consider a fundraiser to start a homebrew store. The certificate simply needs to be used to sign the enrollment tokens (which are just provxml documents with the cert in them), the enrollment token needs to be distributed to the masses, and then the cert is used to sign all the 'brew. It could be setup pretty easily with an online system for registering devs, uploading xaps, and having them signed, for example.
But the requirement that I have an actual company makes things really complicated; I'm not sure how much verification Symantec does, but I'm under the impression a security firm like expects legal registration, which is not something I personally have, nor something I particularly want (LLC taxes are pretty steep these days)
So, here's the question. Does anyone out there have a "company" dev center account, or has played with "company apps", and is willing to experiment to see if this system would be at all useful for homebrew?
Curious to see if there's any interest. In theory, a WP8 Cydia-like app could be developed very easily
this sounds very interesting, though I do not have a company...yet. Does it have to be an LLC? I am thinking of starting an IT/computer repair company here in my town as a side business, not 100% sure yet, but considering it.
Jaxbot, you sly fox .
That's a great idea.
A couple issues to consider...
Might want to read through the WP Store T&C carefully. While those may very well be the only requirements to get a company account, I wouldn't be surprised if there are much more in the terms to keep one. In other words, distributing your app to non-employees could get your company account banned/disabled/revoked. I haven't done the leg work on this so not sure.
The VeriSign cert you get will likely have requirements to be maintained by a single person or group. Publishing the private key would almost certainly (and quickly) get this revoked. So you would either need to someone to manually sign/publish all the apps or figure out an automated process. That should be possible but would likely take a good bit of work to get going.
My $.02.
Jaxbot, did you get a WP8 device and if so, what model did you get ? I know you were trying to get one.
What would be interesting is to see what type of apps you can deploy with this. Could something like this open a full unlock or Interop unlock becase the corporate account could get those type of pemissions to their devices ?
Is this tyed to the Active Directory in anyway, knowing Microsoft each user might need an account in the Active Directory to be able to use the "Company Dev center"? There could be a lot of limits depending how you can connect to the server that runs it.
Do they have a test version ? Maybe that can be used in this case, just to see if it works and could use a deeper investment to get this working. If you could get me a full unlock from this, I surely would pay up a little for it.
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What would be interesting is to see what type of apps you can deploy with this. Could something like this open a full unlock or Interop unlock becase the corporate account could get those type of pemissions to their devices ?
Is this tyed to the Active Directory in anyway, knowing Microsoft each user might need an account in the Active Directory to be able to use the "Company Dev center"? There could be a lot of limits depending how you can connect to the server that runs it.
Do they have a test version ? Maybe that can be used in this case, just to see if it works and could use a deeper investment to get this working. If you could get me a full unlock from this, I surely would pay up a little for it.
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I believe there are a few things you can do with corp apps that can't be done with regular ones but there's not much. Definitely not full interop unlock (at least not directly).
No. It's not tied to AD at all.
I don't think there's a "test" version. The $400 it would cost is chump change for any legit company. Microsoft could waive the $99 fee for someone they're working with but you'll still need the $299 cert and Symantec/VeriSign isn't gonna give that to you for free.
I'm just an end-user, but YEAH! Dev-unlock: $99. Full unlock: priceless. Definitely would pay a bit.
piaqt said:
I'm just an end-user, but YEAH! Dev-unlock: $99. Full unlock: priceless. Definitely would pay a bit.
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This wouldn't be a full unlock. It would just allow devs to publish apps to an alternate marketplace and users that are not dev unlocked could easily download them.
RustyGrom said:
A couple issues to consider...
Might want to read through the WP Store T&C carefully. While those may very well be the only requirements to get a company account, I wouldn't be surprised if there are much more in the terms to keep one. In other words, distributing your app to non-employees could get your company account banned/disabled/revoked. I haven't done the leg work on this so not sure.
The VeriSign cert you get will likely have requirements to be maintained by a single person or group. Publishing the private key would almost certainly (and quickly) get this revoked. So you would either need to someone to manually sign/publish all the apps or figure out an automated process. That should be possible but would likely take a good bit of work to get going.
My $.02.
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Correct. The ToS needs to be really well understood. Some people seem to imply that users outside the company are okay to enroll, but I'm not sure. However, I'm not really sure if the enrollment even touches MSFT's servers at all, and if T&C violations would cause a problem. Something that needs to be looked into. If it's a definite breach of T&C, I say it's not worth it. My $0.02
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Jaxbot, did you get a WP8 device and if so, what model did you get ? I know you were trying to get one.
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Unfortunately no, all my research has been on the emulator. All my attempts to get my hands on a WP8 have proven fruitless so far.
What would be interesting is to see what type of apps you can deploy with this. Could something like this open a full unlock or Interop unlock becase the corporate account could get those type of pemissions to their devices ?
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No, definitely not full unlock. Interop, I'm not sure. The apps are signed and installed, so I have no idea if ID_CAPs are limited. An app like Folders could definitely be deployed, though, with the new WP8 apis.
Is this tyed to the Active Directory in anyway, knowing Microsoft each user might need an account in the Active Directory to be able to use the "Company Dev center"? There could be a lot of limits depending how you can connect to the server that runs it.
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No, you can enroll within active directory, it says that in the instructions.
Do they have a test version ? Maybe that can be used in this case, just to see if it works and could use a deeper investment to get this working. If you could get me a full unlock from this, I surely would pay up a little for it.
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RustyGrom said:
This wouldn't be a full unlock. It would just allow devs to publish apps to an alternate marketplace and users that are not dev unlocked could easily download them.
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What he said. Basically, it would give us homebrew apps that fit into the limitations of the SDK, but not necessarily the limitations of the certification requirements. Folders, Themes, etc. could likely be built. Apps such as CacheClearer and Tweaks, probably not, but again, I have no experimental research on this yet.
This presentation from BUILD (http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-014) should answer most of your questions. The phone does 'phone home' to Microsoft to check the publishers and apps installed. Also, capabilities are limited to "same as standard marketplace apps" however the 'company store' app can install apps and manage apps that have been published through it.
RustyGrom said:
This presentation from BUILD (http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-014) should answer most of your questions. The phone does 'phone home' to Microsoft to check the publishers and apps installed. Also, capabilities are limited to "same as standard marketplace apps" however the 'company store' app can install apps and manage apps that have been published through it.
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55 minutes, exciting Thanks for that, though, clarifies a lot. In that case, then, it sounds like the company store app won't really have much useful information for us, as it sounds almost more restricted than I had originally hoped. In that case, then, "company apps" is probably not a worthwhile route to peruse. My 2 cents.
Terms and conditions for a company account
a. Internal Distribution. Subject to the terms of this Addendum and the Application Provider Agreement,
you may make Enterprise Applications internally available to your Employees. Enterprise Applications
may not be made available to consumers, other companies or the general public, except for vendors or
companies that are under contract with you to develop or test any Enterprise Applications. You are
responsible for any unauthorized distribution of the Certificate Software and Enterprise Applications
outside of the terms and conditions of this Addendum.
b. No Alternative Marketplace. You will not use the Certificate Software to: (i) make paid Applications that
are offered in the general Windows Phone Store available to your Employees; and (ii) make available
Enterprise Applications in a manner that harms the Windows Phone Store as determined by Microsoft
Yeah, MSFT thought about that idea WAY ahead already.
Termination. If you breach the terms of this Addendum and/or the Application Provider Agreement, Microsoft
may (a) revoke the certificates provided by Certificate Software; and/or (b) terminate your Enterprise Account immediately.
If that happens, every app installed will fail to work a day later.
Well it was a good thought guys. A damn good thought..
Since WP8 supports MMC, can we side load any temporary OS to read or execute from anything from it!?
nitin88g said:
Since WP8 supports MMC, can we side load any temporary OS to read or execute from anything from it!?
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MMC? And seriously, go start another thread! Do NOT thread hijack! I can't stand it, seriously
MMC - Multimedia Card.
I am a MCSE, I wounder if there is a verson to learn how use it. Maybe they have a traning version so I could learn how to get it working on domain. This would be nice if I can try this and get a interop unlock by setting it up on my own domain..
DavidinCT said:
I am a MCSE, I wounder if there is a verson to learn how use it. Maybe they have a traning version so I could learn how to get it working on domain. This would be nice if I can try this and get a interop unlock by setting it up on my own domain..
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Not possible. The apps you deploy will not get interop privileges.
I've been using their service for a while now.
This is a service offered free to people who have Nokia accounts who sign up a developer account (which is also free.)
It's purpose is to let developers use a Windows Phone that might not have access to one. It allows you to deploy xaps directly to the phone and offers a number Nokia devices. Not all of them are Windows Phones, and some are in other languages besides English. Some of the Windows Phone devices have SIMs in them and some of them actually have phone numbers where you can call it. A new feature that's available is the onboard cameras have been enabled on the Lumia 820, 920, 925 and the 1020. I'll take screenshots when I can.
The Phone is sideways for photos, so here's the screenshot of the about page.
View attachment 2268581
Also, some of the Windows Phones have a manually installed OEM dev app, On-Device Diagnostics Tool.
http://developer.nokia.com/Devices/Remote_device_access/
RDA for Lumias
RDA's Twitter News Account for new features and Devices
NOTE: I've noticed with the 928, the device lags really behind. SO FAR BEHIND, the frames you might be seeing are from minutes ago.
EDIT 1: Simply exiting the program and starting it up again possibly remedies the video lag issue. Doesn't always work, but it worked well enough to make a video finally.
EDIT 2: There isn't much info about on the ODDT from Nokia. I've uploaded and embedded the videos demonstrating the oem diagnostic tool and some other stuff I did in the session.
Sorry about the first video. Its mostly in monochrome due to the settings I had at the start of the video. After some time into the diagnostics portion I had bumped the quality to 3 or so where it displays color and animation at a decent rate.
The SIM applications are standard STK apps from the operator, they have been there since the early GSM phones. I used to read the joke of the day from my operator's SIM apps on my Nokia 3310 ?
Edited a bit. Forget what I wrote before ?
I was really hoping someone could give some info about the SIM apps that were included, I can't read the text and I don't recognize the carrier either.
I didn't know much about SIM apps previously. Verizon has never used SIMs until they started using LTE.
Apparently these devices are pre-production. This is evident when browsing the directory of the remote devices. Also, note that the diagnostic tool there supports different usb modes too, so thats good news. Now, how to export the app remotely...........
There were some files that were generated during the videos made.
thals1992 said:
Apparently these devices are pre-production. This is evident when browsing the directory of the remote devices. Also, note that the diagnostic tool there supports different usb modes too, so thats good news. Now, how to export the app remotely...........
There were some files that were generated during the videos made.
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I have taken a look at the app, it's not much interesting anyway as we can't deploy it to non-interop devices.
thals1992 said:
I was really hoping someone could give some info about the SIM apps that were included, I can't read the text and I don't recognize the carrier either.
I didn't know much about SIM apps previously. Verizon has never used SIMs until they started using LTE.
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There are just things like Weather. Joke of the Day, Customer service etc. Nothing too interesting, just leftovers from pre-smartphone era
jessenic said:
I have taken a look at the app, it's not much interesting anyway as we can't deploy it to non-interop devices.
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Eh, I just want to get a look at the permissions inside. More specifically, I'm very interested to see the pre-prod/developer 928.
thals1992 said:
Eh, I just want to get a look at the permissions inside. More specifically, I'm very interested to see the pre-prod/developer 928.
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Well ok, here is the XAP and the license file.
Where did you get this? I can't say I've been frequenting here enough to know some of the dev stuff thats been occurring in the past few weeks.
thals1992 said:
Where did you get this? I can't say I've been frequenting here enough to know some of the dev stuff thats been occurring in the past few weeks.
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I don't want to name my source But it's from an engineering lumia.
That's understandable ?
You cant sideload The App...the App requires the interop-service...maybe its possible to download the ROM of the developer device and flash it to other lumias...
Habib.Mouissat said:
You cant sideload The App...the App requires the interop-service...maybe its possible to download the ROM of the developer device and flash it to other lumias...
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You can't flash unsigned ROMs on retail devices.
Thats bad
jessenic said:
You can't flash unsigned ROMs on retail devices.
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Well, apparently you can append a customization package along with the regular ROM, but I only know that from Data Package Manager always marking the ROM with an exclamation mark in the field.
Hi folks, I have a problem. I wanted to set up a parental control for my brother, and when I go to App restriction to restrict apps, it pop-up a C++ Library error. I don't know why this happen. Pictures bellow.
First is the Error, second is the Installed Visual C++ (they are installed from games)
Kir3 said:
Hi folks, I have a problem. I wanted to set up a parental control for my brother, and when I go to App restriction to restrict apps, it pop-up a C++ Library error. I don't know why this happen. Pictures bellow.
First is the Error, second is the Installed Visual C++ (they are installed from games)
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You either need to reinstall the C++ runtimes (see on microsoft's website)
or windows is FUBAR and needs reinstall.
mcosmin222 said:
You either need to reinstall the C++ runtimes (see on microsoft's website)
or windows is FUBAR and needs reinstall.
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OK, I'll try, but what the hack is FUBAR
I'd suggest using this Internet thingy you're on to look up what is obviously an acronym (a well-known one in this case) but your parental controls are probably blocking you... I can't for the life of me understand why anybody would "use" such things (they are almost entirely useless; kids at my school bypassed them whenever they felt like it).
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I'd suggest using this Internet thingy you're on to look up what is obviously an acronym (a well-known one in this case) but your parental controls are probably blocking you... I can't for the life of me understand why anybody would "use" such things (they are almost entirely useless; kids at my school bypassed them whenever they felt like it).
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Aye.
Setting up a different user count is a cleaner and more elegant solution.
mcosmin222 said:
Aye.
Setting up a different user count is a cleaner and more elegant solution.
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EEhh, I have a different user account for that. I created a Standard account for my brother and set it up the Parental Control for it.
Kir3 said:
EEhh, I have a different user account for that. I created a Standard account for my brother and set it up the Parental Control for it.
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Ummm....then what you use the parental control for? This is like trying to do the same thing twice. A properly set up account should be enough. Or are you trying to restrict his access to video games/internet? In my experience, limiting never works, unless you make him understand why it there should be a limit. And he will probably find a way to bypass it sooner or latter.
As GoodDayToDie mentioned, your parental settings are probably messing up with windows up to the point where windows goes FUBAR. So if you can't get this to work, deleting his account and recreating it should help fix the issue.
Well, removing the Visual C++ Redistributables and creating a new account didn't work, I reinstalled them, still no luck
Kir3 said:
Well, removing the Visual C++ Redistributables and creating a new account didn't work, I reinstalled them, still no luck
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There's always the posibility to repair/reinstall windows.
try running this in the command prompt (with admin rights)
sfc/scannow
you should preferably have an internet connection active while this is happening.
mcosmin222 said:
There's always the posibility to repair/reinstall windows.
try running this in the command prompt (with admin rights)
sfc/scannow
you should preferably have an internet connection active while this is happening.
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Code:
C:\Windows\system32>sfc /scannow
Beginning system scan. This process will take some time.
Beginning verification phase of system scan.
Verification 100% complete.
Windows Resource Protection found corrupt files but was unable to fix some
of them. Details are included in the CBS.Log windir\Logs\CBS\CBS.log. For
example C:\Windows\Logs\CBS\CBS.log. Note that logging is currently not
supported in offline servicing scenarios.
I cannot post the log becuase it has logs since I installed Windows.
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Code:
C:\Windows\system32>sfc /scannow
Beginning system scan. This process will take some time.
Beginning verification phase of system scan.
Verification 100% complete.
Windows Resource Protection found corrupt files but was unable to fix some
of them. Details are included in the CBS.Log windir\Logs\CBS\CBS.log. For
example C:\Windows\Logs\CBS\CBS.log. Note that logging is currently not
supported in offline servicing scenarios.
I cannot post the log becuase it has logs since I installed Windows.
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Then you are left with repair/reinstall windows.
Well, it seems that it was corrupted Windows. I upgrade it to 8.1 and now is working, no errors Thanks again.