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Friends.
Android V5 is near launch in a month or two. So then Android V4 will be old.
Same samsung will launch new S4 with few more months waiting.
Update for s3 then will take even more time to come.
This procedure is going on & on with many bloatwares given by Samsung & also by other companies.
I love samsung phones & Use their phone, But support or poor support is biggest hurdel in buying s3 this time.
I am in serious confusion seeing future of S3.
It will get the update.
SGS got its update, SGS2 got its update, SGS3 will get its update.
Updates DO matter but the update plan for android 4 has been a disaster for ALL manufacturers except LG which we shouldn't even talk about as LG is the biggest joke on the android front. Even the nexus line is a failure. I almost got the nexus S a year ago just because of the whole dedicated concept but now I'm glad I didn't. I don't even think the nexus S will get android 5.
Samsung and HTC are those that I feel is the least slow with updates but still none of them will update their first flagships (SGS1 and DHD) even if they without a doubt can run vanilla ICS great. I thought Sony Ericsson learnt their lesson but apparently not as their flagship this year runs GB and that is laughable.
The only "comfort" in all this is that it's the same for all brands.
mertzi said:
Updates DO matter but the update plan for android 4 has been a disaster for ALL manufacturers except LG which we shouldn't even talk about as LG is the biggest joke on the android front. Even the nexus line is a failure. I almost got the nexus S a year ago just because of the whole dedicated concept but now I'm glad I didn't. I don't even think the nexus S will get android 5.
Samsung and HTC are those that I feel is the least slow with updates but still none of them will update their first flagships (SGS1 and DHD) even if they without a doubt can run vanilla ICS great. I thought Sony Ericsson learnt their lesson but apparently not as their flagship this year runs GB and that is laughable.
The only "comfort" in all this is that it's the same for all brands.
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DHD will get ICS as promised by HTC.
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DHD will get ICS as promised by HTC.
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Get galaxy nexus.
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TheBlazingIndian said:
Friends.
Android V5 is near launch in a month or two. So then Android V4 will be old.
Same samsung will launch new S4 with few more months waiting.
Update for s3 then will take even more time to come.
This procedure is going on & on with many bloatwares given by Samsung & also by other companies.
I love samsung phones & Use their phone, But support or poor support is biggest hurdel in buying s3 this time.
I am in serious confusion seeing future of S3.
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This cycle will repeat every year. If you want fast updates get nexus or you can flash roms on the sgs3 to get latest software. If you want latest hardware keep changing phones.
Also what support you are referring to? Why do you need support from useless samsung or any other manufacturer in that matter? XDA is your best support forum and you need manufacturer support only in case of hardware defect and need a warranty replacement or repair
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This cycle will repeat every year. If you want fast updates get nexus or you can flash roms on the sgs3 to get latest software. If you want latest hardware keep changing phones.
Also what support you are referring to? Why do you need support from useless samsung or any other manufacturer in that matter? XDA is your best support forum and you need manufacturer support only in case of hardware defect and need a warranty replacement or repair
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Exactly. If you are confused, then get a nexus so you won't be. Also, who says we are going to Android 5, what about 4.1? Lets not overhype please.
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Rumor has it Samsung, HTC, etc have early access to Jellybean in order to make their Nexii. Previously everyone besides Samsung only had access when it was released.
Whether or not this affects the update schedule remains to be seen. If it doesn't, you can either expect early-mid 2013 for the update, or flash it yourself (no company, not even some ideal hypothetical, can compete with homebrew speed).
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Friends.
Android V5 is near launch in a month or two. So then Android V4 will be old.
Same samsung will launch new S4 with few more months waiting.
Update for s3 then will take even more time to come.
This procedure is going on & on with many bloatwares given by Samsung & also by other companies.
I love samsung phones & Use their phone, But support or poor support is biggest hurdel in buying s3 this time.
I am in serious confusion seeing future of S3.
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What are you basing any of this on? I highly doubt we will see Android 5 this soon (unless it is purely a tablet OS, which I doubt).
Based on your logic, there is no point in buying an Android phone.
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Exactly. If you are confused, then get a nexus so you won't be. Also, who says we are going to Android 5, what about 4.1? Lets not overhype please.
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This.
Android 5 or 4.1 will more then likely come in December just like ics and gingerbread before that. If this is true, this gives you 5 to 6 more months with ics and I doubt the s3 will be as old as you are thinking; sure better devices can come to the market in the next 6 months but let's be real, the s3 will be able to do everything for the next year to a year and a half just fine. I've been with the HTC inspire and this thing is 2 years old yet I rarely have any lag considering I use this for everything including gaming.
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Have perfect solution for u, don't by the SGS 3 and keep waiting for the perfect one, I have a Gnex and very much doubt that it will have Jelly Bean in a month or two or three , maybe more like 5 months and in the smartphone age that is like a year. Or go get a phone named after a fruit. See no one will get Jelly Bean before it makes it's debut on the next Gnex and thats just the way the cookie crumbles. Thank the fruity company for making the latest version the "best " one, at least with Samsung you get more from the next version then just S voice as they did with the 4S and a bit more power.
If you rooted, you won't bother whether Samsung update on time or not because you have everything the best XDA can offer you. If you are not rooted, obviously you are not software geek, why bother whether your GS3 running ICS, Jellybean, Gingerbread or any other version? Everything is a big problem to human if he or she want to think that way.
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DHD will get ICS as promised by HTC.
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yeah sorry you're right, I was certain I read the other day that they cancelled the plan but now I see it will get it july or august, still very late. And considering that, why wont sgs1 get it officially?
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having a nexus phone doesn't guarantee you getting updates in the future. look at N1. and NS got it's first update pulled fast and then it took several months before a new ICS update came. That's why I don't care about the nexus line. And I think that the SGS3 will be a phone that feels fresh longer than any phone before, even with android 4.
ye, even i was thinking about that problem but then i just thought that if android 5 comes out then i will use the customised rom
Custom rom/buy new phone.
Ive had enough of waiting for retarded companies to update things.
Motorola milestone - 6 months late, not fully functional (GB)
LG optimus 3d - not available till september 2012 (at the earliest), sold with the promise of prompt ics update, instead waiting more than a whole year.
Never waiting for an update again. Just gonna buy the new phones.
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having a nexus phone doesn't guarantee you getting updates in the future. look at N1. and NS got it's first update pulled fast and then it took several months before a new ICS update came. That's why I don't care about the nexus line. And I think that the SGS3 will be a phone that feels fresh longer than any phone before, even with android 4.
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They messed up on the Dec update and probably had to redo. Unfortunately, company bureaucracy works much more slowly than we do, and a new update cycle can take 3-5 months. This is true for any company that offers warranties - they have to break as little as they can.
Had they not messed it up, however, NS could have had its upgrade hella quickly.
Don't want to deal with company bureaucracy? Flash homebrew (NS certainly had them much, much more quickly). Otherwise there's still no better option.
s3 will get official JB update and may be cm11 or cm12 for the other version of androids
Hopefully this is an ok location for this topic. I know previously there were rumors about the possibility of multiple nexus smartphones. Following the 10/29 announcement of the 5, 7, and 10, is this all we should expect? Or is a HTC Nexus 5 based on the Butterfly still something that coudl happen
No. If there was going to be a Nexus 5, it would have been announced with the other devices.
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Hopefully this is an ok location for this topic. I know previously there were rumors about the possibility of multiple nexus smartphones. Following the 10/29 announcement of the 5, 7, and 10, is this all we should expect? Or is a HTC Nexus 5 based on the Butterfly still something that coudl happen
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I think you are dreaming mate!
I think we will have the 4, 7 & 10 until next October when they announce the next Nexus?
I wouldn't bet on it
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I think you are dreaming mate!
I think we will have the 4, 7 & 10 until next October when they announce the next Nexus?
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Thanks, I guess it was wishful thinking on my part. Nexus 4 here we go!
I'd put all my money on there not being multiple Nexii. Rumors are rumors.
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I'd put all my money on there not being multiple Nexii. Rumors are rumors.
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Actually there were "multiple Nexus devices" this year made by many different manufacturers. It was never assumed that they would all be phones.
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Actually there were "multiple Nexus devices" this year made by many different manufacturers. It was never assumed that they would all be phones.
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I guess that got cleared out. Samsung, LG, Asus: 3 new Nexus devices.
I wouldn't expect any new nexus devices until android 5.0....Google never releases a new device without a new software release to power it.
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Actually there were "multiple Nexus devices" this year made by many different manufacturers. It was never assumed that they would all be phones.
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D'oh, you're right.
I herped a derp there. Disregard, I have two cats.
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I guess that got cleared out. Samsung, LG, Asus: 3 new Nexus devices.
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Dont forget the ever popular Nexus Q.
Somehow.. launching Android 5 with a Nexus 5.. kinda makes sense
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Somehow.. launching Android 5 with a Nexus 5.. kinda makes sense
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with a 5" display
Red Wolf said:
with a 5" display
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Most definitely. Google's official Phablet
Red Wolf said:
with a 5" display
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And an 5 Core Processor + 5G RAM + 5MPx Cam ( fail?) and iPhone 5 Killer
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They typically release a new Nexus phone every 9-12 months.
10" tablet by samsung
7" tablet by asus
4.7" smartphone by LG
apparently there are supposed to be 5 nexus devices this year.. one of them being HTC based on the butterfly a 5-5.5inch 'phablet' ... and another device by motorola i think
i doubt the last 2 are gonna make an appearance this year
In that Verge video, they did say other manufacturers also tried out to be the company making the Nexus 4, so maybe those prototypes that other companies sent in might have been considered potentially released along with the LG one, but Google decided to only go with one of them.
My gut says if you want a 5" phone, you'll have to snag a Note II and put a custom ROM on it.
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IIRC the rumors of 5 Nexii or so came before IO 2012. So:
1. Nexus 7
2. Nexus 4
3 Nexus 10
4. Nexus Q (even though it wasn't released for long, the rumors said 5 before it didn't do well I believe)
5. 3G Nexus 7? Who knows-- maybe a fifth was cut or the rumors were just rumors.
Hello, I know that this is pretty random question, but my son has a birthday on 21'st next month(he will become sixteen years old) and he is a huge fan of the Nexus 7 tablet and I want to buy him one. The thing is that I have read that Google will make an upgrade to Nexus 7 around these months(it is only a rumor) so the question is should I buy him the Nexus 7 tablet or should I wait for the upgraded version(though it will take a lot of time till it get released in my country.)
Thanks,
Best regards,
Ripton.
Yes.
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Nexus 7 is awesome device even today, so, for the sixteen year old boy is good enough.
i am 16 too and happy with my n7,
but i would suggest just to wait a little
otherwise current n7 is great
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If you can snatch a 32gb one for ~$200 even, I'd say go for it.
If not, I'd say give ur kid a raincheck or give $200-250 and see he wants to do with it. Buy today (Nexus 7) or wait for 2.0 to come out.
Personally I'd like to get my hands on a next gen because of the retina-like display + way faster Quad Core.
While the current Nexus 7 isn't bad, it's still 1 year old technology. It's adequate, but just make sure you aren't paying full price for it.
I guess I will wait till 10th or 15th of July if no new news pop up about the next gen I will get him the normal nexus 7.
Also, do you think that the "old" nexus 7 will be able to be upgraded to the newer version of android (4.3 or whatever it will be called)?
Thanks,
Best regards,
Ripton.
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I guess I will wait till 10th or 15th of July if no new news pop up about the next gen I will get him the normal nexus 7.
Also, do you think that the "old" nexus 7 will be able to be upgraded to the newer version of android (4.3 or whatever it will be called)?
Thanks,
Best regards,
Ripton.
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yes, it will get support at least till android 5.0.
It's a nexus
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Thank you guys for your support. I will wait around an month, if nothing new comes I will get the current gen Nexus 7.
Thanks,
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Ripton
Hi,
How long Google will provide updates for Nexus 4 after Nexus 5 is out ???
Thanks.
well, let's put it this way: galaxy nexus is technically a 2011 device (q4 2011) and it still gets updates. nexus s is a 2010 device (q4 2010) and it does not. the last update for nexus s was 4.1.2 late last year. I would expect about another year to a year and a half of updates....give or take a few months. Depending on the update schedule in that time period, there's a chance we would see 6.x or a very late 5.x build as our final update.
I'm obviously just speculating, but this is all based on past history with nexii, so please don't start a battle over this, anyone and scream for proof or anything lol
probably untill the end of next year...
It is MUCH more powerfull than Galaxy Nexus, so it may go even further...
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well, let's put it this way: galaxy nexus is technically a 2011 device (q4 2011) and it still gets updates. nexus s is a 2010 device (q4 2010) and it does not. the last update for nexus s was 4.1.2 late last year. I would expect about another year to a year and a half of updates....give or take a few months. Depending on the update schedule in that time period, there's a chance we would see 6.x or a very late 5.x build as our final update.
I'm obviously just speculating, but this is all based on past history with nexii, so please don't start a battle over this, anyone and scream for proof or anything lol
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Hi,
Thanks for the info.
18 months is the promised duration. any more than that is a blessing..
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As mentioned above, we would mostly see updates till the latest 5.x build or maybe even the 6.x build. What's interesting though is that starting from 5.0 Google is supposedly focusing on making android a smooth experience even on low power single core 512 MB RAM devices (did the nexus one have similar specs?). So maybe we might even see updates for 2 years or so. Just speculating. Even if we don't, we've always got these amazing devs, hats off to them.
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As mentioned above, we would mostly see updates till the latest 5.x build or maybe even the 6.x build. What's interesting though is that starting from 5.0 Google is supposedly focusing on making android a smooth experience even on low power single core 512 MB RAM devices (did the nexus one have similar specs?). So maybe we might even see updates for 2 years or so. Just speculating. Even if we don't, we've always got these amazing devs, hats off to them.
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if they build for 512mb ram all legacy nexus devices are covered
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/co...-S,Samsung-GALAXY-Nexus/phones/4512,4990,5595
While the Nexus 4 Hardware can handle it.
4.1.2 for the Nexus S made it a little less snappy, that's why it was the latest update for the Nexus S.
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While the Nexus 4 Hardware can handle it.
4.1.2 for the Nexus S made it a little less snappy, that's why it was the latest update for the Nexus S.
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yeah, but if the rumors are true, 5.0 will be better optimized for devices like nexus s with low ram. ram consumption is the biggest issue with running jelly bean on older devices right now.
kikloo said:
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How long Google will provide updates for Nexus 4 after Nexus 5 is out ???
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Until 2015
Since the specs on current gen phones are so good now, the N4 could probably be supported for many years.
Most Android updates need/recommend 1GB of RAM and a basic dual core processor.
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/7...xus-7-is-reportedly-not-getting-android-m.htm
Just saw this, not sure if this news is reliable but that would kind of suck..
Far from credible. Honestly if it doesn't come from Google or Android Police don't beleve it. Actually don't even trust Google just AP.
Someone sent us a tip saying “goodbye Nexus 7, no Android M for you”, and they also said they are close to the Android M development...
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Thats the source lol.
I can see maybe the 2012 nexus 7 being dropped from M update.
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Would be bad if Google dropped support for a 1 1/2 yr old device (not looking at release date) . More fragmentation and might give Apple fanboys more to brag about .
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The nexus 7 2012 is fine but if google stops updating the 2013 version I'm gonna bust their asses my Xperia Z1 from 2013 even has a chance of getting M...
atm android 5.1.1 still sucks on my N7 so I hoped that M would fix my issues!
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vkk178 said:
Would be bad if Google dropped support for a 1 1/2 yr old device (not looking at release date) . More fragmentation and might give Apple fanboys more to brag about .
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They promised at least 18 months of updates after they stopped selling a device in the play store, iirc
Edit: here's the ap article, it looks like we might not get M
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...e-with-an-update-guarantee-for-nexus-devices/
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They promised at least 18 months of updates after they stopped selling a device in the play store, iirc
Edit: here's the ap article, it looks like we might not get M
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...e-with-an-update-guarantee-for-nexus-devices/
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Hmm ... Not sure if Andoid M classifes as a update or as patch . IMHO its both ,since 5.1 is sluggish and tad buggy .
No updates would be bad and it sucks . One might think why invest in a expensive Nexus device when updates are so short lived . Apple fanboys might have some thing to brag about .
I'm not very concerned. Even if Google doesn't give us the update, it probably won't be very long before CyanogenMod comes out with it. I'm willing to bet that this tablet continues to get community support for another couple of years.
Without a CM Flo or deb device maintainer I doubt CM based on Android M would appear officially for us. Maybe other ROMs that have flo maintainers/devs will bring Android M to our devices after making 5.1.1 Lollipop binaries and stuff compatible with M
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Hmm ... Not sure if Andoid M classifes as a update or as patch . IMHO its both ,since 5.1 is sluggish and tad buggy .
No updates would be bad and it sucks . One might think why invest in a expensive Nexus device when updates are so short lived . Apple fanboys might have some thing to brag about .
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The only thing keeping me on Android is the ability to root, secure my devices, and retain full control of the file system - you know, administer the device. This is slowly being taken away, and when it does, I will probably jump ship. Apple makes quality hardware, and iOS isn't awful. It just doesn't give you any easy methods to truly administer the device without jumping through hoops.
In a world where you are a guest on your own device regardless of OS, Apple will come out the winner.
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The only thing keeping me on Android is the ability to root, secure my devices, and retain full control of the file system - you know, administer the device. This is slowly being taken away, and when it does, I will probably jump ship. Apple makes quality hardware, and iOS isn't awful. It just doesn't give you any easy methods to truly administer the device without jumping through hoops.
In a world where you are a guest on your own device regardless of OS, Apple will come out the winner.
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Besides the point you mentioned , Android does have other benefits ... But I was talking more in terms of Nexus devices . If high end devices & Nexus devices (from the google stable) dont get updates for longer , it would be crappy .No point investing in an expensive Nexus device..
If they stopped selling the N7 2013 in October 2014, 18 months of updates would end April 2016 I think.
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2 years after release date
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Despite rumors circulating about the chance of official M for flo, I doubt that it will be left out. After all, Google recently announced monthly updates for a list of nexus devices that includes flo. Even if those updates came only in the form of patches for L, I'm sure unofficial support will be there. Even my old galaxy nexus has unofficially made it to the latest revision of lollipop...
I believe we will get it. It just turned 2 and its only like 3 month's older than the nexus 5. It'll be the last major update but it'll still get it. The 2 year guarantee is just that, a guarantee it doesn't mean they'll necessarily cut off devices at that point
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Cor-master said:
I believe we will get it. It just turned 2 and its only like 3 month's older than the nexus 5. It'll be the last major update but it'll still get it. The 2 year guarantee is just that, a guarantee it doesn't mean they'll necessarily cut off devices at that point
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Totally agree, 5.1.1 runs smooth on my N7 so I see no reason from a hardware perspective that the N7 shouldn't get M. I think it will be last release so lets hope its a good one.
When I bought my wife's 2013 Nexus 7, it was mid-2014 and I thought for sure it was my only chance of owning a Nexus device, living in the US. I bought it for me, but then I discovered I don't like tablets very much. Fortunately, my wife loves it, so I wiped it and made it hers.
From 4.2 to 4.3, 4.4, 5.0, and now 5.1, it's had four major updates. That's more than any Android phone I've owned has gotten. First got one, second got none, third one got three, fourth one got one so far. Samsung, Motorola, and Samsung again on US Cellular, and HTC on Verizon. All flagships but the first one. It seems to me that I really care about updates on my phones, but on the tablet, it doesn't matter. The tablet doesn't feel like a mission-critical device. It feels like a media device. Had the price gap not been so wide, I wonder if I shouldn't have just gotten an iPad. Not that the Nexus 7 is bad. I just found that a tablet didn't do anything for me. It's just a bigger screen.
If Google is going to cut Nexus updates off after just two years, that's better than a lot of OEM phones get. Though, I do wonder, why did the Nexus 4, released in 2012, get the M preview, but not flo, released in 2013? Or am I mistaken? Was the Nexus 4 abandoned as well?
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When I bought my wife's 2013 Nexus 7, it was mid-2014 and I thought for sure it was my only chance of owning a Nexus device, living in the US. I bought it for me, but then I discovered I don't like tablets very much. Fortunately, my wife loves it, so I wiped it and made it hers.
From 4.2 to 4.3, 4.4, 5.0, and now 5.1, it's had four major updates. That's more than any Android phone I've owned has gotten. First got one, second got none, third one got three, fourth one got one so far. Samsung, Motorola, and Samsung again on US Cellular, and HTC on Verizon. All flagships but the first one. It seems to me that I really care about updates on my phones, but on the tablet, it doesn't matter. The tablet doesn't feel like a mission-critical device. It feels like a media device. Had the price gap not been so wide, I wonder if I shouldn't have just gotten an iPad. Not that the Nexus 7 is bad. I just found that a tablet didn't do anything for me. It's just a bigger screen.
If Google is going to cut Nexus updates off after just two years, that's better than a lot of OEM phones get. Though, I do wonder, why did the Nexus 4, released in 2012, get the M preview, but not flo, released in 2013? Or am I mistaken? Was the Nexus 4 abandoned as well?
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M developer preview was available for the nexus 5,6 and 9, unfortunately the nexus 4 didn't make the cut, as you quite rightly said, it was released in 2012, which is a bit more than the two year update garuntee
I want marshmallow, any custom rom for flo?
djlah said:
I want marshmallow, any custom rom for flo?
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Marshmallow hasn't been released so there is no AOSP Source made public from Google. ROMs will appear once Android 6.0 and it's Source Code is released (rumored by the end of this month)
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