Considering stock roms are getting better, does anyone see rooting a phone an option - Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshoot

What I mean is that, at least with myself, and a few other users, that stock is good enough to not warrant a custom ROM. Many just want root to customize their experience a little farther than stock. For myself, it's just enabling unlocked wireless tether, adblocking and getting rid of bloatware. I seriously don't think companies would make the process easier. But I thought I'd throw the question out there. I know that the completely stock experience is made to best protect the average consumer from malware and mucking up their phone. I realize that locking down a lot of things keeps the average technically uninformed user from breaking their phone. What are your thoughts on this subject?

I agree with your observation that stock ROMs are getting better and better and it'll most likely be more than good enough or perfectly adequate for the non-techy average user.
However, based on the industry practice of carriers still loading up phones with their own apps, customizations, and other bloatware, I think root will be desirable and necessary still for a long time to come.
After getting my S4, I immediately rooted it to uninstall many Sprint and Samsung apps that I couldn't otherwise. Root was also necessary to add adblocking software, a firewall, and to customize what I didn't like about TW through the Xposed framework.

I agree that custom ROMs may not be as necessary as they used to be but they are still a relatively easy way for people to get a different look with little effort.
I had mine rooted within 30 minutes of getting home with it. Still need root for Titanium Backup. Custom Recovery for Nandroids and flashing Mods and a Custom kernel just because. Using Xposed and Notach and Viper4Android and of course the Tether unlock.

Hey total noob question. If I root my S4 and leave the stock rom on the phone, will I still get all the firmware updates?

mr_mojorisen said:
Hey total noob question. If I root my S4 and leave the stock rom on the phone, will I still get all the firmware updates?
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Yes.

mr_mojorisen said:
Hey total noob question. If I root my S4 and leave the stock rom on the phone, will I still get all the firmware updates?
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I believe so as long as you have the stock recovery.
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optimummind said:
I agree with your observation that stock ROMs are getting better and better and it'll most likely be more than good enough or perfectly adequate for the non-techy average user.
However, based on the industry practice of carriers still loading up phones with their own apps, customizations, and other bloatware, I think root will be desirable and necessary still for a long time to come.
After getting my S4, I immediately rooted it to uninstall many Sprint and Samsung apps that I couldn't otherwise. Root was also necessary to add adblocking software, a firewall, and to customize what I didn't like about TW through the Xposed framework.
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Whats the best way to remove the bloatware? I'm rooted already.

A way that would would still get updates, disable programs in the application manager. You will still lose root though.

ashton4life said:
Whats the best way to remove the bloatware? I'm rooted already.
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I like Root App Delete, which is here:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=zsj.android.uninstall
and also Titanium Backup.

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Root or not to root

I'm no computer whiz so what are the advantages of rooting this phone as it seems plenty fast as is.
Well, with rooting, it's pretty much like being the Admin of your computer. So for starters, you have control over many more phone functions, especially when it comes to something like tethering. There are more apps and themes and ROMs available for you to use, which will cut down on battery usage, give you a better looking set of themes, and allow you to overclock not only your processor but also your GPU.
It's definitely something that isn't terribly essential, but it does make the phone more.....yours, so to speak.
Looks like I'm rooting and is there a way to unroot in case you need to send it back to Sprint so restoring to factory settings.
Yea you can flash back to stock and they'll never even know you had it rooted or had a custom rom
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Yup, unrooting is easy. Here's one such app that allows you to temporarily unroot or unroot completely: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper&hl=en
There's several other apps like this and a lot of guides on how to do it.
3 main reasons why I root all my devices:
1. Add app data backup (mainly games) to my new device
2. Tether
3. Flash custom roms
Root.
As previously stated, more performance, battery gains, and free tethering are only a few of the advantages....
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Curious about the bootloader and S-OFF unlocking possibilities on each carrier... Anyone know any info?
it is necessary
you can be the admin of your phone. you control it , not the phone control you.
Besides all the reasons some folks have mentioned, I also root to use ad-blockers..
So I do not have to put up with ads is some apps.
Hoggles said:
Curious about the bootloader and S-OFF unlocking possibilities on each carrier... Anyone know any info?
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Samsung devices doesn't have "S OFF". It's only htc devices. Bootloader maybe locked, depending on your carrier
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Well I want root asap on mine, going to have to uninstall all those S-lag apps Samsung added. Ones no one really needs and jsut slow the phone down. S heath and S Apps etc
The main reasons I'm going to root ASAP are because I want to enable an ad-blocker, wifi tether, restore some apps and disable some of the bloatware on the AT&T model. I'm going to try and stick with the stock ROM at least for a couple months. I've been using AOKP for a good 6 months on the GS3, it will be a nice change to go back to Touchwiz for a bit. (hopefully)
I will also be rooting mine as soon as I get it, so that I can restore everything from my s3 to it. I won't worry about custom roms for this phone for a while, although I'm sure that thread will explode in a few weeks.
I think I am leaving this one stocks for once. At least for a little while
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root because there will be massive amounts of mods available. i know because i'll be working on quite a few
cheers!
I'm starting to think I'll get my 9500 this week and there won't be root for it. If I can't restore with Ti then it will sit in the box for a bit.
Sarcron said:
Yup, unrooting is easy. Here's one such app that allows you to temporarily unroot or unroot completely: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper&hl=en
There's several other apps like this and a lot of guides on how to do it.
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Must be rooted in order to use OTA RootKeeper from Play!
This application makes a backup or a protected backup of your device's root.
This device must already be rooted: OTA RootKeeper doesn't have the ability to root devices.
Link to thread from Chainfire about getting i9505 root
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AmesCell said:
I'm starting to think I'll get my 9500 this week and there won't be root for it. If I can't restore with Ti then it will sit in the box for a bit.
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"sit in the box for a bit" ... like 2-3 minutes :laugh:
Mine may as well be shipped prerooted. I'm going to make sure my 'life companion' will really be my life companion lol.
I have decided to root if nothing else so I can tether. I also like to change the boot animation and shutdown animation. Looks like I'll be doing a lot of learning from you XDA guys.

The benefits of rooting?

I know some people will wonder why I'm asking but this would be the first time I'm thinking of rooting and I wouldn't mind getting an idea of what it allows me to do with the phone. Thanks!
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This is the development thread ask it in q & a thread.
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Pros:
"Free" Wifi Tethering (Allows you to use phone as a Hotspot for internet)
Delete Carrier Bloatware
Eliminate Banner Ads
Backup Everything on Your Phone
Make Your Phone Run Faster (By overclocking CPU etc)
Increase Your Battery Life (By installing custom and/or underclocking CPU)
Run Any App You Like
Move/Run Apps for SD-Card (with apps like Foldermount)
Cons:
Voids Your Warranty
Overclocking Can Cause Damage
Some apps wont work with root (EG: Banking apps, Sky Go etc)
Easy to Brick your Phone (If not done correctly)
Will Make Your Phone Less Stable (If not done correctly)
Rooting Could Become Illegal
May Prevent You from Getting Updates
There all loads more reason but these are the main ones.
Titanium Pro backup All the reason I need to root
crimptool said:
Titanium Pro backup All the reason I need to root
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+1
Zultrax-UK said:
Pros:
"Free" Wifi Tethering (Allows you to use phone as a Hotspot for internet)
Delete Carrier Bloatware
Eliminate Banner Ads
Backup Everything on Your Phone
Make Your Phone Run Faster (By overclocking CPU etc)
Increase Your Battery Life (By installing custom and/or underclocking CPU)
Run Any App You Like
Move/Run Apps for SD-Card (with apps like Foldermount)
Cons:
Voids Your Warranty
Overclocking Can Cause Damage
Some apps wont work with root (EG: Banking apps, Sky Go etc)
Easy to Brick your Phone (If not done correctly)
Will Make Your Phone Less Stable (If not done correctly)
Rooting Could Become Illegal
May Prevent You from Getting Updates
There all loads more reason but these are the main ones.
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This is a very good list. I would just add one more PRO: rooting lets you buy a new phone more often (because you brick your old ones more often)
Seriously, one of the main reasons to root for me personally is to get rid of the banner ads for phones I prepare for older people who are prone to clicking on the banners and installing spam as the result.
Basically rooting is for people who like tinkering with their hardware.
OP, since you asked the question, I assume you have not rooted before, you should read up more about this, and maybe wait a few more days, to make sure rooting methods are stable, and you are fully familiar with the procedure. Believe me you do not want your phone accidentally bricked.
If you want some of the benefits of rooting such as the blocking banner ads you can unroot after changing the hosts file.
ill hold on rooting for now due to the cons. I dont want to break my first Droid :silly:
agree, and right now there is no full rooting toolkit for the s4 so I'll probably wait as well
Zymesh said:
ill hold on rooting for now due to the cons. I dont want to break my first Droid :silly:
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i personally plan to wait 4-6 months before rooting... i can download stuff straight to my phone now cause of my huge sd card whereas before i would need to tether to my pc... also 9 gigs is enough for all the apps i run... i tend to be more minimalistic when it comes to downloading games etc...
so, for now i'll be fine without rooting just in case something goes wrong with it & i need to use the manufacturers warranty.
kreoXDA said:
This is a very good list. I would just add one more PRO: rooting lets you buy a new phone more often (because you brick your old ones more often)
Seriously, one of the main reasons to root for me personally is to get rid of the banner ads for phones I prepare for older people who are prone to clicking on the banners and installing spam as the result.
Basically rooting is for people who like tinkering with their hardware.
OP, since you asked the question, I assume you have not rooted before, you should read up more about this, and maybe wait a few more days, to make sure rooting methods are stable, and you are fully familiar with the procedure. Believe me you do not want your phone accidentally bricked.
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haha...nice words.
AventEx said:
agree, and right now there is no full rooting toolkit for the s4 so I'll probably wait as well
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I an waiting for tool kit because I'm not confident enough to do it with the current methods
How long before we can expect tool kits?
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I feel as though unless your experienced the current root methods are not noob friendly at all
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crimptool said:
Titanium Pro backup All the reason I need to root
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Yeah me too. But as far as i can say, I have old Galaxy S rooted, my banking apps work fine. Dont know which banking app does that root check. Remind me not to open an account, apply for credit card, take loans from that bank! :silly:
Apps no longer able to enable/disable the cellular radio without root
Rooting S4 (and all others phones) with JB 4.2.x IMHO is absolutely necessary as Google has removed the possibility for profile-manager apps to control the ON/OFF state of the cellular radio.
Unfortunately many serious users relying on time or location based profile switch are now out of luck!
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=40497
It is not easy to brick your phone. You have to not pay attention, not follow directions, and use no common sense to get there. By that last I mean you should avoid unproven root methods unless you are willing to take the risks involved that such trail blazers face.
I'm not saying that rooting is right for anyone but those with a functional brain and the ability to read and follow simple directions should have a problem free experience. A couple basics, read the directions, all of them. Make absolutely sure that this procedure is the correct procedure for your specific handset. Do not be brave, it's no fun looking at a phone that won't boot when you lack the experience to deal with it so stick with what's proven. If you are not sure after reading up on the procedure, ask. No one wants to spoon feed the lazy but learning means asking questions sometimes so having read the material do not hesitate to ask if a part of the process is unclear.

Sell me on root

I haven't updated and I have plenty of devices that are rooted, but it's always usually a hassle, usually stuff breaks and not everything works. The main reason I like to root. Is to remove bloatware and change some main features. What for you guys is the selling point to root your phone?
I haven't done it yet, but I like to have it to increase battery life to the max and remove ads.
GigaSPX said:
I haven't done it yet, but I like to have it to increase battery life to the max and remove ads.
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it's root... If that doesn't sell you... then buy an iPhone.
RBThompsonV said:
it's root... If that doesn't sell you... then buy an iPhone.
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Are you referring to me or TC? I'm just telling him what I like root for and what its selling point for me is.
Even then, an iPhone still can't do as much as stock Android phones. I just haven't the time to do root on my S7 Edge because I'm still speculating on whether the bugs will be fixed and all (such as making Samsung Pay work).
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Are you referring to me or TC? I'm just telling him what I like root for and what its selling point for me is.
Even then, an iPhone still can't do as much as stock Android phones. I just haven't the time to do root on my S7 Edge because I'm still speculating on whether the bugs will be fixed and all (such as making Samsung Pay work).
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Sorry, I was just being a douche to the OP....
I'm on apd2 just got the phone today. Is that version rootable?
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alsgarage said:
I'm on apd2 just got the phone today. Is that version rootable?
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Yup and PE1 is also.
Doesn't look like anyone is selling this person on root. I'll try.
I have rooted my phones in the past but going to stay away from it for now on the S7 Edge because of Samsung Pay.
Best reasons to root from my perspective, off the top of my head:
Titanium backup! This is one of the things I miss the most.
Xposed Modules: GravityBox (love playing and tweaking the settings), YouTube Adaway (if you don't have a Red account, use this)
Viper4Android (best audio tweaking/enhancing mod for any phone)
Liveboot (changes boot animation, love this one)
There's this thing called Lucky Patcher but you can research that on your own
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Doesn't look like anyone is selling this person on root. I'll try.
I have rooted my phones in the past but going to stay away from it for now on the S7 Edge because of Samsung Pay.
Best reasons to root from my perspective, off the top of my head:
Titanium backup! This is one of the things I miss the most.
Xposed Modules: GravityBox (love playing and tweaking the settings), YouTube Adaway (if you don't have a Red account, use this)
Viper4Android (best audio tweaking/enhancing mod for any phone)
Liveboot (changes boot animation, love this one)
There's this thing called Lucky Patcher but you can research that on your own
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See, that's why I'm swaying my mind about root. Samsung Pay is extraordinarily versatile and it actually accepted one of my credit cards for use. I have NEVER used Samsung Pay in a real life situation yet since I haven't a need to, but I would like to keep my options opened in case I do forget my wallet and all.
Whyyyyyyy? >_<
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See, that's why I'm swaying my mind about root. Samsung Pay is extraordinarily versatile and it actually accepted one of my credit cards for use. I have NEVER used Samsung Pay in a real life situation yet since I haven't a need to, but I would like to keep my options opened in case I do forget my wallet and all.
Whyyyyyyy? >_<
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You should really try it out sooner rather than later. There are such great things with root and you currently have nothing keeping you from doing it. You can always go back to stock to use SPay, but at least decide if you would like it or not.
Actually, if you live in the US, make three small purchases between now and August 2nd to get a free $10 Amazon gift card. It's the current promo going on right now. Although you may want to waif for another "First use" Samsung Pay promo where you can sometimes get decent stuff. I got a $30 eBay gift card for my first SPay use back in April.
And Qualcomm S7 root is reversible so you can try it and, if you don't like it, restore the non-rooted state with Samsung Pay.
Other thoughts (on how I use root):
App settings: this allows you to set DPI (and other settings) per app. This way, I can run the phone at 400 dpi but have the camera and other apps run at their native DPI full screen
Amplify/Greenify can do wonders to your battery by controlling how often certain programs call home.
Anyone know if update that came out today kills root?
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Anyone know if update that came out today kills root?
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I'm pretty sure it does not as the idea behind this root method is that you are not rooting the kernel that this firmware update comes with, but the engineering one. Since you are only allowed to flash "official" firmwares, this update would not block it.
You're not exploiting the carrier's stuff, but an engineering kernel that is legal to flash tot he phone without rejection. If that makes sense.
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I'm pretty sure it does not as the idea behind this root method is that you are not rooting the kernel that this firmware update comes with, but the engineering one. Since you are only allowed to flash "official" firmwares, this update would not block it.
You're not exploiting the carrier's stuff, but an engineering kernel that is legal to flash tot he phone without rejection. If that makes sense.
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It does lol thank you
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i love having root but I actually use SamPay allot so unfortunately root doesn't give me anything i want more than SamPay. Hopefully something like rootcloak will allow SamPay to work soon??
Is Samsung Pay more useful than Android Pay, which I believe works with root? I don't really care about either app because my bank is always behind the times and still can't be used in Apple Pay or Android Pay (I just tried again and still not supported by my bank).
You guys pretty much hit all the reasons that I like root, especially all the Xposed modules to do things like keep YouTube playing with screen off and recording phone calls, and just having control over the operating system in general. I couldn't imagine if Windows was locked down like Android, yet 99% of people just accept being restricted on their mobile devices. I've always tinkered with computers though so having less than root or admin access to stuff is maddening. I'm glad that I'm a domain admin at work and not just another pleeb user, haha.
I wouldn't necessarily count on root helping your battery life a ton, though. I've done lots of crap to try and help, yet it still consumes 2 or 3% an hour in standby, just as it did when it was full of bloat with tons of wake locks. That's with AOD on and Bluetooth enabled and connected to my Gear S2 though, which are bigger battery hogs than the little tweaks that I've done with Greenify, Amplify, and Titanium app-freezing.
A couple other things I want root for are Tasker & FolderMount, though the latter has caused me to Odin my phone back to life twice in an attempt to make it work.
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Is Samsung Pay more useful than Android Pay, which I believe works with root? I don't really care about either app because my bank is always behind the times and still can't be used in Apple Pay or Android Pay (I just tried again and still not supported by my bank).
You guys pretty much hit all the reasons that I like root, especially all the Xposed modules to do things like keep YouTube playing with screen off and recording phone calls, and just having control over the operating system in general. I couldn't imagine if Windows was locked down like Android, yet 99% of people just accept being restricted on their mobile devices. I've always tinkered with computers though so having less than root or admin access to stuff is maddening. I'm glad that I'm a domain admin at work and not just another pleeb user, haha.
I wouldn't necessarily count on root helping your battery life a ton, though. I've done lots of crap to try and help, yet it still consumes 2 or 3% an hour in standby, just as it did when it was full of bloat with tons of wake locks. That's with AOD on and Bluetooth enabled and connected to my Gear S2 though, which are bigger battery hogs than the little tweaks that I've done with Greenify, Amplify, and Titanium app-freezing.
A couple other things I want root for are Tasker & FolderMount, though the latter has caused me to Odin my phone back to life twice in an attempt to make it work.
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Android Pay does not work with root iirc.
snake2332 said:
Is Samsung Pay more useful than Android Pay, which I believe works with root? I don't really care about either app because my bank is always behind the times and still can't be used in Apple Pay or Android Pay (I just tried again and still not supported by my bank).
You guys pretty much hit all the reasons that I like root, especially all the Xposed modules to do things like keep YouTube playing with screen off and recording phone calls, and just having control over the operating system in general. I couldn't imagine if Windows was locked down like Android, yet 99% of people just accept being restricted on their mobile devices. I've always tinkered with computers though so having less than root or admin access to stuff is maddening. I'm glad that I'm a domain admin at work and not just another pleeb user, haha.
I wouldn't necessarily count on root helping your battery life a ton, though. I've done lots of crap to try and help, yet it still consumes 2 or 3% an hour in standby, just as it did when it was full of bloat with tons of wake locks. That's with AOD on and Bluetooth enabled and connected to my Gear S2 though, which are bigger battery hogs than the little tweaks that I've done with Greenify, Amplify, and Titanium app-freezing.
A couple other things I want root for are Tasker & FolderMount, though the latter has caused me to Odin my phone back to life twice in an attempt to make it work.
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IMO, I feel like I have faster battery drainage with root than without, and I'm on the U firmware right now.
I would say that if you don't know if/why you want root, then you probably don't want it. Particularly in the case of the s7e for VZ. There really isn't anything in the way of custom ROMs or mods yet. I also don't think battery life and performance are any better with root, and in fact I believe it could be the opposite. One of the most common things I hear is people wanting to remove bloat, although the effect of that can mostly be accomplished through an app like package disabler.
Having said that I rooted simply because I wanted to. I like knowing that I can do whatever I'd like on my device. While I have yet to find any critical functionality that being rooted on the S7E gives me that I didn't have without it...I like playing around with things like tasker, and editing the build.prop file.
I've had Titanium backup for a long time, and I certainly like being able to use that again.
I'd like to see a native tethering mod, but since I have Foxfi that's simply a matter of convenience.
I used to be all about root until the Note 5. That phone was fast enough and good enough battery that I didn't need to break samsung pay forever to get root. Then I had a Nexus 6p, rooted immediately but no ROMS were as dependable as stock so I stayed stock and used Android Pay. Now I jump ship to VZW where we seem to get the lock down more often than not, and I really don't care.
Keep it stock, enjoy monthly security updates and Samsung Pay. Just use Samsung browser adaway for Internet ads, and Package Disabler Pro if you'd care to slim down any apps that aren't easily disabled without it. Root causes more headache than its worth for me.

Is ROOT G935T worth it? Advice needed

The question is simple enough... Is it worth ROOTING the T-mobile G935T Galaxy S7 Edge ?
I'm late to the game with the S7E - Quite literally just bought one... And this will be my first device with a locked bootloader. My Note 4 was fully rooted with tons of support and development.
I see there is not much (hardly any) rom development for the S7E G935T, and I see several threads mentioning root and guides, but then I see it bootloops several days later, or people going back stock and just not messing with it. So the question I ask is this: Is it worth rooting the S7E ? or is the root not worth the effort... Also since I'm used to a root with my Note 4 - will the Root for the G935T be the same? or a limited root?
Sorry if this is confusing, just wanted a more current answer since I'm sure there have been lots of changed from March-July 2016 where most of those other threads started.
No, it's not worth it in my opinion. I could never get rid of the heat and the lag. However, goodlock provides most of the the UI customizations I prefer, and the Samsung theme engine compliments that, along with Nova launcher. Adhell blocks ads, the Ufirmware gets rid of the annoying T-Mobile bootscreen and bloat, and you get to keep Samsung pay. I pay for google play music, so YouTube red takes care of YouTube ads. Honestly, this phone has enough going for it that (I can't believe I'm saying this!) root is not needed. In fact, as a long time rooter myself, aside from flashing a new custom ROM every week, the isn't any functionality that I miss that I can think of. If I didn't pay for YouTube red, youtube ads might annoy me I suppose
Thanks @dave812 I appreciate you taking the time to write that.
I have a couple questions, if you (or any one) has the time to answer...
I have Nova launcher prime. I've installed a couple Samsung themes but I can not see the themed icons in Nova? Only TouchWiz.
I'll for sure try ad hell, I tried ad clean and the battery usage was insane. Nearly 30% during a days use... That's too high.
Good lock I've never heard of. I'll check that out.
Any other advice would be appreciated. Thanks!
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Araltd said:
The question is simple enough... Is it worth ROOTING the T-mobile G935T Galaxy S7 Edge ?
I'm late to the game with the S7E - Quite literally just bought one... And this will be my first device with a locked bootloader. My Note 4 was fully rooted with tons of support and development.
I see there is not much (hardly any) rom development for the S7E G935T, and I see several threads mentioning root and guides, but then I see it bootloops several days later, or people going back stock and just not messing with it. So the question I ask is this: Is it worth rooting the S7E ? or is the root not worth the effort... Also since I'm used to a root with my Note 4 - will the Root for the G935T be the same? or a limited root?
Sorry if this is confusing, just wanted a more current answer since I'm sure there have been lots of changed from March-July 2016 where most of those other threads started.
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I have mine rooted running Echoes Rom 1.5 with Xposed using a custom Aod screen. It's not really worth root because of less than stellar battery life but I love to root so I did it anyway.
I was a long time Rooter as well and built themes for the Note 4. Samsung Themes are pretty good @Araltd but with Nova the Icon Packs will not carry over. The only launcher I have found to do this is Action Launcher, but it doesn't have the features of Nova IMO.
@PapaMag yeah I remember the themes! I ran a few of them on my note 4.
I'm shocked no one has come up with a way to get the Samsung theme icons to carry over to Nova? But since I have no clue, I'm assuming it's not easy to do.
When you say you were a long time rooter does that mean you do not root anymore?
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My opinion... no. Root isn't worth it. Not until an unlocked bootloader becomes available (IF).
No custom roms (well... slimmest that I've ever seen anyway.)
No Samsung Pay
Poor battery life
Lag (even after "fixes")
No OTA.
No Nouget (more than likely)
I believe at this point it might be easier to ask, "What's the benefit of having root?"
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Adhell blocks ads.
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I had never heard of Adhell before this post. I've been using Adguard but I *hate* having the VPN icon in the notification bar, plus it messes up battery stats. You're basically my favorite person right now, Adhell has totally made my day!
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I believe at this point it might be easier to ask, "What's the benefit of having root?"
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At this point, viper. I don't think superior audio quality is worth all those other drawbacks.
I'm in the same boat. Got an S7E on day one, rooted that one (but overheated and lagged like hell). Went through the whole Note 7 debacle and am now back with a S7E. The only thing I'm really hoping for is the Nougat update soon. It carries over a lot of the N7 features and UI. Would anyone suggest going with the Verizon Nougat Beta, or just suck it up and wait?
Well honestly I've found ez package disabler to disable most of the bloat. Gets themes too ??
I've got Adhell running and disconnect pro which are both administrative level ad blockers... I'm used to ad away, which is amazing... These other two in conjunction block about 90% I guess. I'm running TouchWiz with the theme's right now (I also own Nova prime) but Nova won't use the TouchWiz system icons so I'm playing around right now.
I've got super swiftkey with all its themed keyboards. I have not used samsung/Android pay yet, but since it's stock APK1, it (they) should work.
I do notice some heating up from time to time.. The only app I've got that lags badly right now is my security camera app (q-see view) which makes the phone crawl so bad, I can not always exit the app properly. Sometimes I have to press recent apps and close all to make it end... Didn't have that problem before on the note 4.
I looked at good lock, it seems like a fancy lock screen replacement. I personally don't see a need for that. Unless I didn't find the right app? It didn't seem to offer any UI tweaks, just lock screen functions...?
All I can say is, nougat can't get here fast enough for me.
Thanks for all the help and advice! Please keep it coming. If more of us post results with apps and tweaks, rooting won't be missed as much. Thanks again to everyone for participating here!
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S7E
By my the way, I'm giving thanks to everyone who posts here because I appreciate your opinions, suggestions and participation. Thanks again!
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S7E
What's that ufirmware? How can I disable t mobile bloat ware? Any free software? Also anyone facing signal issues?
Ez package disabler let's you disable a bunch of stuff without root.
Sent from my SM-G935T
Binary100100 said:
My opinion... no. Root isn't worth it. Not until an unlocked bootloader becomes available (IF).
No custom roms (well... slimmest that I've ever seen anyway.)
No Samsung Pay
Poor battery life
Lag (even after "fixes")
No OTA.
No Nouget (more than likely)
I believe at this point it might be easier to ask, "What's the benefit of having root?"
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I'm about to unroot today, it's been horrible ( the lag that is) even with the fixes it's like your'e using half a phone constant freezing lag
I rooted yesterday - and yes my phone was very hot. And it lagged, but I followed all the instructions in this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-s7-edge/how-to/guide-post-root-common-bugs-fixes-t3427600
My phone is now running fine. It is not hot and it does not lag. I'm really glad I rooted. I was able to install xposed and modules today.
k8108 said:
I rooted yesterday - and yes my phone was very hot. And it lagged, but I followed all the instructions in this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-s7-edge/how-to/guide-post-root-common-bugs-fixes-t3427600
My phone is now running fine. It is not hot and it does not lag. I'm really glad I rooted. I was able to install xposed and modules today.
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Except for SU needing to be updated huh?
Binary100100 said:
Except for SU needing to be updated huh?
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Haha, it's still worth it. I can live with the hashtag until I can find a way to get rid of it.
k8108 said:
Haha, it's still worth it. I can live with the hashtag until I can find a way to get rid of it.
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I have been rooted for a couple of months. I have no SU hashtag. Also no heat or lag. I am running U fimrware with T-Mobile modem.
My stance on rooting is no for s7 edge for the following reasons.
1. Samsung Pay ( Soooooooo convienient. My wallet only has my ID, a debit card and credit card thanks to it)
2. S Health ( There are other ones out there but I prefer S health that provides a lot of benefits without ads in my face every 10s)
3. Stock is very stable.
4. Samsung theme store ( enough customization options here )
5. Security in general ( not tripping knox, plus complete stock may get better resale value )
For the bloatware issues, I'm rocking stock ROM for 935u, the unlocked US version. I would suggest going this route if bloatware and performance is an issue for you. It isn't that hard to flash. It doesn't trip knox. You keep all the benefit of a stock phone and a very, very stable phone. There's a thread on XDA which I followed https://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-s7-edge/how-to/stock-official-sm-g935us-g935uueu4apl4-t3535408.
Binary100100 said:
Except for SU needing to be updated huh?
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I just flash new versions using flashfire. Auto updates are disabled of course.

[Open discussion] what to do with root?

So I just rooted my tmobile gs7 running 7.0 and I have no idea what to do. I've been looking and looking. searching and searching and I can't find anything useful as far as apps or mods or even roms. I'm just wondering if rooting was a waste of time or if there is actually stuff out there? What's everyone else woth American models doing with their rooted s7? Should I just unroot and go ahead and upgrade to the s8?
It depends of you, if you root and don't need root, then why root?
I personnaly rooted it to have full control over my phone, install some mods and do some theming over system apps.
Good luck
...it is really simple, one app will make a big difference now that you are root: AdAway (goodby ads)
And if you despice bloatware, go for Titanium Backup and get rid of all those stupid carrier and maker apps.
And if you need a little more performance and keep apps off your RAM, try Greenfy.
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This is why I root:
1. AdAway
2. Titanium Backup - uninstall and freeze any app, including system apps and bloatware.
3. Greenify - force close apps at any moment, might be useful for battery drainers like the facebook app or any other app that causes battery issues.
Thanks for the responses. I rooted simply for the fun of it. I remember back when I had my gs3 and rooted there was a bunch of roms and cool mods and apps to do pretty much anything u could think of. I thout it would be the same thing this time around but I ended up stumped when I couldn't find anything.
I rooted my phone so I could use an ad blocker, replace Samsung's emoji, and to properly install the Pixel Launcher. I was very disappointed that there's no TWRP or much in the way of custom ROMs.
Just out of curiousness. I am looking into rooting and now with this thread I have an idea of what I want to do. What method was the most efficient to root for you?
holmes901 said:
Just out of curiousness. I am looking into rooting and now with this thread I have an idea of what I want to do. What method was the most efficient to root for you?
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I used max lees method on YouTube. He has a site called high on android and another called galaxys7root.com (forgive me devs if him or his methods are banned) just make sure rooting is really what u wanna do. I say that because your phones performance will decrease. Even after tweaking the cpu and all that good stuff my phone still runs inefficiently compared to pre root. Best of luck
Root and download and install superman rom
vibealite said:
Root and download and install superman rom
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I'll look into that. Thanks
Ur welcome i havent rooted yet my self but i have been thinking about it just to install superman rom looks really good
Just not 100% on how to root yet
vibealite said:
Ur welcome i havent rooted yet my self but i have been thinking about it just to install superman rom looks really good
Just not 100% on how to root yet
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In my honest opinion it'd probably be better to wait. So far it's done more damage to my phone than it has helped and to make things worse I have yet to find a solid unroot method so now I'm stuck with a slow phone that force closes and lags all the time
Roni P. said:
In my honest opinion it'd probably be better to wait. So far it's done more damage to my phone than it has helped and to make things worse I have yet to find a solid unroot method so now I'm stuck with a slow phone that force closes and lags all the time
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If you'd like to unroot just simply flash a stock odin tar. If you don't want to wipe I'd uninstall any root applications and flash the csc_home.
Roni P. said:
I used max lees method on YouTube. He has a site called high on android and another called galaxys7root.com (forgive me devs if him or his methods are banned) just make sure rooting is really what u wanna do. I say that because your phones performance will decrease. Even after tweaking the cpu and all that good stuff my phone still runs inefficiently compared to pre root. Best of luck
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That's the method I was,looking at. If you rooted already how's it holding up?
I rooted today and installed superman rom only problem i have is with my vr is jittery when i move my head
Roni P. said:
So I just rooted my tmobile gs7 running 7.0 and I have no idea what to do. I've been looking and looking. searching and searching and I can't find anything useful as far as apps or mods or even roms. I'm just wondering if rooting was a waste of time or if there is actually stuff out there? What's everyone else woth American models doing with their rooted s7? Should I just unroot and go ahead and upgrade to the s8?
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After rooting my phone for a couple of weeks I came to the conclusion that it's not worth it. Here's why.. the biggest issue I had was my phone was constantly over heating and the battery was draining much faster than when on stock. Yes I tried things like greenify and other apps that are supposed to help battery life and several cooling apps for the over heating issues, but none really fixed the problem completely nor even that much at all. Rooting also made my phone lag and run very glitchy. I was very disappointed because I really like using Xposed to customize my phone, switching emojis to iPhone style, and getting rid of ads but all in all, those things just didn't outweigh the issues that came with rooting. I think the root for snapdragon models is just very sloppy and isn't as good as it can be and until then, I would not recommend.
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Roni P. said:
In my honest opinion it'd probably be better to wait. So far it's done more damage to my phone than it has helped and to make things worse I have yet to find a solid unroot method so now I'm stuck with a slow phone that force closes and lags all the time
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What carrier do you have for your s7? I've had to unroot several times and have not had any issues what so ever.
How about S-Health
Hi, everyone,
I have a question, I had a SM-G930F, I rooted it and after, I wasn't able to use S-Health anymore. So I sold it and buy a new SM-G930V.
Will I have the same problem if I root it? or there is a trick to make S-Health work with rooted S7(snapdragon of courses)?
Thank's for your reply.
rooting used to be a way to hide tethering from your carrier. i have 14 gigs of hotspot plus unlimited data on tmobile so i dont need to hide it.
my main reason for wanting root is to debloat the phone. i would also love to install vanilla android but i doubt that will happen.
arorakotoary said:
Hi, everyone,
I have a question, I had a SM-G930F, I rooted it and after, I wasn't able to use S-Health anymore. So I sold it and buy a new SM-G930V.
Will I have the same problem if I root it? or there is a trick to make S-Health work with rooted S7(snapdragon of courses)?
Thank's for your reply.
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edit build.prop
search ro.config.tima.
switch from 0 to1 or 1to0
done
thegreatkazoo said:
rooting used to be a way to hide tethering from your carrier. i have 14 gigs of hotspot plus unlimited data on tmobile so i dont need to hide it.
my main reason for wanting root is to debloat the phone. i would also love to install vanilla android but i doubt that will happen.
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you dont need root really to debloat it you can flash the unlocked s7 variant rom thru odin theres also an app called package disabler pro which really helps as well.

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