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We have yet another possible remedy for those of us experiencing wakelock/battery drain issues still. Read about it from someone on the bugtracker.
Try leaving your GPS set to on, rather than toggling it. I switched mine on this morning (yesterday, now) and now for the first time in over a month I have now had my Evo unplugged for 13 hours and still have 31% battery remaining after moderate usage today.
It seems that CM may be managing it better or something (someone will have to look into it if this proves successful for more people)
Give it a try and post your results here!
I have never turned off my GPS once since I had the phone in like 6 months. GPS is not the issue for me.
I've always found that about 2 weeks after flashing a new ROM, I start getting wake lock issues which I can never track down. They always resolved themselves after I flash a new ROM, but reappear about 2 weeks later again.
Rinse and Repeat.
The GPS-on fix makes it look like there's an issue with the network location. This would tie in to earlier reports. In this case, it would be best to turn off "Use wireless networks" from Settings > Locations and Security until this bug is fixed.
The two most common causes mentioned so far are network location issues and SMD_RPCCALL wakelock issues.
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What PRI are you guys running? This is likely unrelated, but PRI 1.90 seems to cause wake lock (100% wake) for some.
Edit: BTW, for every post I read, reverting to 1.77 PRI solves the 100% wake issue.
Not sure, haven't flashed a sense ROM in awhile... I'll try to check when I get a chance
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We have yet another possible remedy for those of us experiencing wakelock/battery drain issues still. Read about it from someone on the bugtracker.
Try leaving your GPS set to on, rather than toggling it. I switched mine on this morning (yesterday, now) and now for the first time in over a month I have now had my Evo unplugged for 13 hours and still have 31% battery remaining after moderate usage today.
It seems that CM may be managing it better or something (someone will have to look into it if this proves successful for more people)
Give it a try and post your results here!
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You do realize that this makes no sense, don't you?
Not if something keeps trying to call on the GPS when it's off causing some sort of wakelock while it loops trying to get a GPS fix. Leaving it on allows CM6 to manage it or something. But it does seem to help.
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You do realize that this makes no sense, don't you?
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You know there's a well-known bug with Sense ROMs and the HTC 4G widget that forces 4g into a scan loop when you try to toggle 4G off that absolutely _kills_ the battery in a few hours...
I've not tested his suggestion, but the community has found stranger things before.
Side note: before two days ago I _never_ ran wifi on ... but also never ran into a wakelock ... I've left my wifi on just over the weekend as I was playing with something completely unrelated ... maybe with your suggestion Ill just continue to leave it up and see if i run into this wake-lock issue.
I've never turned gps off, it's been on since I got the phone this summer. I think it's funny that one of the settings we see for gps says something about "may cause excessive use of batter" or whatever and fact is - gps on 100% of the time doesn't do ANYthing until an app needs it. It's not used at all. No gps icon, no nothing.
The 4g problem is a PITA but it doesn't drain the battery within a few hours. It draws a little ut unless someone had shown me and proven it to me.....I wouldn't have known. And even now that I do know and I know to reboot my phone after I use 4g, I haven't noticed a big gain in battery life. Leaving 4g ON after you leave a 4g area or no longer need it WILL drain your battery within a few hours. fact
My Evo battery is draining at a rate that is all together too fast. I took it off the charger about 3.5 hours ago and it has drained about 30-40%. I have not made a call nor used the net at all save for the receipt of 3-4 emails. I had a rooted phone but I reset the phone back to complete unrooted stock. I have not even so much as installed an app. What can I do about this?
turn off your mobile data when not in use. This will save tremendous amounts of battery.
if you search the forums you should find countless threads on battery and how to find out what is draining your battery and to extend life.
not sure why you would unroot unless you were exchanging it at sprint store but it greatly limits what you can do to help prevent battery drain. If you dont want to mess with much jsut use a rooted stock rom and it is pretty much the same thing as being unrooted but you keep the extra rooted benefits.
your best bet on non rooted device make sure mobile data, 4g, auto orientation, bluetooth etc are turned off. do the HTC battery condition/charge trick. and turn off background sync.
my suggestion is to re root and look into undervolted kernels and many other battery saving tricks found using search!
hopefully it helps some.
I had the same problem OP.
Turns out my radios weren't update.
Head over to the developer section and download the newest radios and stuff.
I've seen significant improvement of my battery life by using Collin_ph Battery Tweak 1 that was offered by Myn's when I flashed his/her's rom. I had my BF take his Evo to work after he come home complaining that the charge would only last about an hour or two and behold, he got through the whole day without having to charge his battery. This is after listening to music at work for 8 hours also. I HIGHLY recommend this tweak for ROOTED PHONES as I and everyone else I've recommended loves their Evo now and have no complaints...I'm at work right now and I'm at 79% and when I usually get home the battery is either still green (full) or orange (med) charge. I'm not sure if this tweak can be used with other mods but I'm very happy with this tweak as it has made my phone perfect now~~
Could be a Rogue app running killing your battery or radios not updated like stated above.
I recently started having the same issue. Advice such as turning of data and the GPS aren't helpful since the device functioned fine with GPS and data on before. Also if the battery was draining at a slower rate on the current radio before, you shouldn't need to update it, should you?
Seems that either something is making the Evo use more juice than it was before or that the battery is not holding the same capacity it used to. For some reason Phone Idle and Cell Standby have been using quite a bit more juice than they used to.
I don't like some of the software mentioned to try and locate anything that could be using more juice since those programs seem to use quite a bit themselves. Either way, what could be doing it that would come up as Phone Idle or Cell Standby in the included battery monitor? Wouldn't anything else come up under Android System?
The battery draining that quickly is not normal even with background sync, GPS (idle), 4g, data, or anything else on. There is another issue which must be solved. To troubleshoot so far I've tried another battery (same thing happens) and now I'm trying with everything turned off. If I can isolate what was causing my sudden rapid battery drain, I'll update everyone. This just started a couple nights ago for me. I think I'm on the latest radio, but I'll check.
Last post sums up my problem perfectly. I have an extended battery that lasts half the time it has over the last 4 months. Started with the radio updates. running myk
Use the battery usage functions of 'spareparts' to determine what's consuming cpu or preventing the phone from sleeping.
Can't fix the problem until you've isolated what's at fault.
Turning off mobile data will indeed fix a problem of some app trying to access the network, but it won't solve the actual cause.
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turn off your mobile data when not in use. This will save tremendous amounts of battery.
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I think juice defender does this automatically when the screen is off.
In the case of my phone, and I believe the OP's, we don't have any rogue apps or things running in the background. I know this phone like the back of my hand. I have completely uninstalled unnecessary apps like facebook, twitter, all things like news and weather are on manual update, i don't keep 4g or gps on, and I use wifi at home. I turn off 3g in terrible reception areas. I'm not a new user who doesn't understand the basic ways to save a little battery. I'm pretty sure the OP isn't either by his post. I use my phone the same every day. My chinese extended battery would last me easily from morning to bedtime with 20 to 30 percent to spare. Now I can't get near that after the radio updates. Since it's been well known that something is weird with these current updates, I've downgraded to 1.77 to see if that helps. My phone was sleeping fine though, so I don't know how much it will help. Always some BS with this phone.
Log out of gtalk and latitude. Those two seem to kill battery.
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Log out of gtalk and latitude. Those two seem to kill battery.
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I appreciate it. I really do. But that is exactly the things I'm saying are already off. GTalk is turned off immediately on my phone from the jump and latitude has never been opened. It's got to be radios. I guess I'm not really asking a question, I'm just telling the OP he isn't alone.
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I appreciate it. I really do. But that is exactly the things I'm saying are already off. GTalk is turned off immediately on my phone from the jump and latitude has never been opened. It's got to be radios. I guess I'm not really asking a question, I'm just telling the OP he isn't alone.
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this is the thread with flashable .zips of alllll the radio updates ever out for the EVO.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715485&highlight=radio
if you are having trouble after a radio update, just try some of these other radios and see if that helps
Your best bet would be to root your phone again and give one of the SBC kernels a shot. I'm running CM 6.1.2 along with Zendroid 1.1.0 BFS AVS SBC and I can easily get 16+ hours with HEAVY use. And when I say heavy use, I mean hundreds of sms, dozens of calls and lots of websurfing. You will love the SBC kernels. Give it a try.
PS. My name is HondaCop and I approve this message.
We can offer suggestions until we're blue in the face.
First off, the OP needs to provide specifics of what's installed on the device, including rom, kernel, radio, etc, not to mention the hardware version itself.
Assuming it's not the known pri /rom conflict, then determination needs to be made as to what's actually consuming cpu - see first sentence above.
Need to use a systematic approach to troubleshoot this, otherwise it's a waste of time.
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My Evo battery is draining at a rate that is all together too fast. I took it off the charger about 3.5 hours ago and it has drained about 30-40%. I have not made a call nor used the net at all save for the receipt of 3-4 emails. I had a rooted phone but I reset the phone back to complete unrooted stock. I have not even so much as installed an app. What can I do about this?
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That sounds like a very weak cellular signal is forcing the radio to keep searching for it, draining the battery very quickly.
One way to somewhat alleviate this problem is to force roaming, to connect to a provider with a better signal.
"Roam Control" app does this (Market).
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We can offer suggestions until we're blue in the face.
First off, the OP needs to provide specifics of what's installed on the device, including rom, kernel, radio, etc, not to mention the hardware version itself.
Assuming it's not the known pri /rom conflict, then determination needs to be made as to what's actually consuming cpu - see first sentence above.
Need to use a systematic approach to troubleshoot this, otherwise it's a waste of time.
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Dude....This is the best post in this thread...
Sometimes I wonder how far android users went in school....is scientific method lost these days? By no means am I qualified to help here..so my flamesuit is on for the post but damn.."my ****z broke...halp" won't cut it in a developer forum...
"it works on my machine"....words to die by.
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....is scientific method lost these days?
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What's that??????
d3x502 said:
Dude....This is the best post in this thread...
Sometimes I wonder how far android users went in school....is scientific method lost these days? By no means am I qualified to help here..so my flamesuit is on for the post but damn.."my ****z broke...halp" won't cut it in a developer forum...
"it works on my machine"....words to die by.
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Actually,
some android users looked at the posting date, saw that the op hasn't updated in over 24 hours, wanted to complain about it, decided against it, posted quickly the most useful idea they had.
All that while doing real science.
Before the update everything was fine. Now if I turn on the screen or listen to music the phone would awake (it would show that it was asleep in jellybean). When I turn off the screen and I am not listening to music then my phone falls asleep. Android system used to be awake under 20 mins over a 15-30 hr span now it can be well over an hour in 4-9 hr span. I did a factory reset yesterday already, uninstalled all of my apps and reinstalled them when I seen that the problem still exist. I googled the problem, but can't find a solution. Is anyone else getting a Android System battery drain like me.
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Before the update everything was fine. Now if I turn on the screen or listen to music the phone would awake (it would show that it was asleep in jellybean). When I turn off the screen and I am not listening to music then my phone falls asleep. Android system used to be awake under 20 mins over a 15-30 hr span now it can be well over an hour in 4-9 hr span. I did a factory reset yesterday already, uninstalled all of my apps and reinstalled them when I seen that the problem still exist. I googled the problem, but can't find a solution. Is anyone else getting a Android System battery drain like me.
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Yes, I am having the same problem. I was told to do a factory reset but I cant even back up my phone with kies because it the MTP driver keeps failing to install and Kies says I have to use Kies 3 even though the Samsung Site says 3 is for the Galaxy Note..
Did you sideload your update or was it OTA?
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Yes, I am having the same problem. I was told to do a factory reset but I cant even back up my phone with kies because it the MTP driver keeps failing to install and Kies says I have to use Kies 3 even though the Samsung Site says 3 is for the Galaxy Note..
Did you sideload your update or was it OTA?
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It was a OTA. I did a factory reset already, but that didn't fix the problem unfortunately.
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It was a OTA. I did a factory reset already, but that didn't fix the problem unfortunately.
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yeah I side loaded the update and I am on 100% stock no rooting or anything. My phone gets really hot all of a sudden and the battery starts dropping like crazy. I have none of the apps running so I don't know what the problem is..
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yeah I side loaded the update and I am on 100% stock no rooting or anything. My phone gets really hot all of a sudden and the battery starts dropping like crazy. I have none of the apps running so I don't know what the problem is..
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that is odd. I was reading the forums on the sprint galaxy note 3 update, and people have posted pix of their battery stats. Their stats looks similar to mine. The people there was saying that maybe the problem would fix itself over a week. Im hopping it do, because I am really loving kitkat...minus this issue of course.
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that is odd. I was reading the forums on the sprint galaxy note 3 update, and people have posted pix of their battery stats. Their stats looks similar to mine. The people there was saying that maybe the problem would fix itself over a week. Im hopping it do, because I am really loving kitkat...minus this issue of course.
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I hope so, here is my battery screen shot. It was fine until all of a sudden it starting dropping
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I hope so, here is my battery screen shot. It was fine until all of a sudden it starting dropping
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I attached another screen shot which shows it better
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I attached another screen shot which shows it better
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oh wow. You definitely have an app that is not liking kitkat. Your phone does not fall asleep when you turn your screen off. Im really trying to figure out why your phone is doing that. Im going to assume that "lookout" and "Malwarebytes Anti-Malware" are the problem. My opinion is that you don't need those as much as you think you do. they are most likely the cause of your drainage. My phone falls asleep as soon as i turn off the screen. Now i have 90% battery life with almost an hr of SOT left, and thats on 4g LTE the entire time.
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I attached another screen shot which shows it better
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Heres my stats new stats
I had alot of problems when on wifi, don't use it anymore and sticking with 4g. I'm at 30% left with just over 4 hours screen on. I'm guessing it's something either Google or Samsung have syncing more often on wifi, on wifi I'd be dead at 3 or 4 hours screen on time
Sent from my Sprint Galaxy S4
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I had alot of problems when on wifi, don't use it anymore and sticking with 4g. I'm at 30% left with just over 4 hours screen on. I'm guessing it's something either Google or Samsung have syncing more often on wifi, on wifi I'd be dead at 3 or 4 hours screen on time
Sent from my Sprint Galaxy S4
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Thats interesting. I haven't used my phone on wifi yet, because its a little inconsistent right now. If your phone is acting up while connected to wifi then it got to be something on samsung's end. You can end up with just over 5 and a half hrs of SOT if you stick to 4g and don't want any problems. I would keep testing how things go on both wifi and 4g over the next couple of days if i were you to see if the problems continues though. What problems are you getting while connected to wifi?
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Thats interesting. I haven't used my phone on wifi yet, because its a little inconsistent right now. If your phone is acting up while connected to wifi then it got to be something on samsung's end. You can end up with just over 5 and a half hrs of SOT if you stick to 4g and don't want any problems. I would keep testing how things go on both wifi and 4g over the next couple of days if i were you to see if the problems continues though. What problems are you getting while connected to wifi?
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Another one of the major problems I am having is that sometimes my apps don't work. When i clicked on the camera it did not show up the app opens but the camera does not turn on. This leads to a major lag and when I try to press the home button it does not work. Then my phone's screen just shuts off and I cant turn it back on via the home button or the power button.
This also leads to the phone getting hot and losing the battery very quickly..
oh and btw the S5 does not seem to impressive to me..
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Another one of the major problems I am having is that sometimes my apps don't work. When i clicked on the camera it did not show up the app opens but the camera does not turn on. This leads to a major lag and when I try to press the home button it does not work. Then my phone's screen just shuts off and I cant turn it back on via the home button or the power button.
This also leads to the phone getting hot and losing the battery very quickly..
oh and btw the S5 does not seem to impressive to me..
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thats very odd man my phone doesn't do that at all.
The S5 didn't wow me either...lets see what HTC will do
had the same problem.
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Before the update everything was fine. Now if I turn on the screen or listen to music the phone would awake (it would show that it was asleep in jellybean). When I turn off the screen and I am not listening to music then my phone falls asleep. Android system used to be awake under 20 mins over a 15-30 hr span now it can be well over an hour in 4-9 hr span. I did a factory reset yesterday already, uninstalled all of my apps and reinstalled them when I seen that the problem still exist. I googled the problem, but can't find a solution. Is anyone else getting a Android System battery drain like me.
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I had the same problem at first. Waited a few days and it still drained badly. Then I went into startups and turned off a few of the apps I never use. Working fine now.
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I had the same problem at first. Waited a few days and it still drained badly. Then I went into startups and turned off a few of the apps I never use. Working fine now.
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What apps did you disabled, and could you include a screen shot of your battery activity if you don't mind.
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Thats interesting. I haven't used my phone on wifi yet, because its a little inconsistent right now. If your phone is acting up while connected to wifi then it got to be something on samsung's end. You can end up with just over 5 and a half hrs of SOT if you stick to 4g and don't want any problems. I would keep testing how things go on both wifi and 4g over the next couple of days if i were you to see if the problems continues though. What problems are you getting while connected to wifi?
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Same problem as the op. Android system would take alot and phone wouldn't sleep. But on 4g it sleeps. Could be an app I have I dunno. 4g is fast here so it's not a problem for me
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Same problem as the op. Android system would take alot and phone wouldn't sleep. But on 4g it sleeps. Could be an app I have I dunno. 4g is fast here so it's not a problem for me
Sent from my Sprint Galaxy S4
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i reset the phone and didn't install any apps and come to find out that its something that is already on the phone. I had no apps on my phone and android system and android os were in the top three that was taking up a lot of battery.
I recently had an issue with Android OS draining a lot of battery. I read somewhere that disabling stuff from Google sync that you don't use can help, so I disabled sync for all Google services except the ones I use, such as contacts, calendar, app data, people details, and play books. I rebooted and watched my battery for the next couple of days. And it worked. My battery life is a lot better, and Android OS is not using nearly as much battery as it did before. Perhaps this will help you guys?
***UPDATE on HOW TO FIX***
I HAD terrible batt drain with nae.. so bad that i left the device on the charger overnight qnd woke up to 35% batt... i got mad and reflashed stockish v6.. but.. batt drain was the same...
so.. here is what i did... i ended up flashing negalite r6 and the batt was so bad my phone would be dead within 1hr.. SO, FOR KICKS, i reflashed the MK2 modem and HOLY COW!, problem solved!!
im currently on negalite r6 ( a nae rom ) but using the mk2 modem and my batt drain problems are gone. in fact im getting great batt life. i didnt change the kernal or anything. i have flashed ktoonsez kernal over it, and it has not effected batt life at all...
in conclusion, if ur batt life sux, try reflashing mk2 modem.. it worked for me.. and yes 4g, mms, calls, and wifi work without any problem...
hope this helps
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I recently had an issue with Android OS draining a lot of battery. I read somewhere that disabling stuff from Google sync that you don't use can help, so I disabled sync for all Google services except the ones I use, such as contacts, calendar, app data, people details, and play books. I rebooted and watched my battery for the next couple of days. And it worked. My battery life is a lot better, and Android OS is not using nearly as much battery as it did before. Perhaps this will help you guys?
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I don't even have sync on to help with battery life. Then again i never have it on unless i need to have something pushed to me.
Are you guys disabling this using Package Disabler? Just curious if it can improve battery in any way?
I disabled it and got almost 7 hours of sot my first day.
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Mu5ic92 said:
Are you guys disabling this using Package Disabler? Just curious if it can improve battery in any way?
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You can disable it, but certain core functions may not work. Samsung Pay for example.
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You can disable it, but certain core functions may not work. Samsung Pay for example.
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I can confirm that Samsung pay works with it disabled. From what I understand, this has something to do with push notifications for Samsung apps. I'm not sure exactly which apps, or what functions break if this is disabled (I don't use many Samsung apps), but pay does work. Push Services was a known battery killer on the s6, so I disabled it on my s7 as well. No ill effects yet.
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I can confirm that Samsung pay works with it disabled. From what I understand, this has something to do with push notifications for Samsung apps. I'm not sure exactly which apps, or what functions break if this is disabled (I don't use many Samsung apps), but pay does work. Push Services was a known battery killer on the s6, so I disabled it on my s7 as well. No ill effects yet.
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Would you mind sharing what you disabled in total? I've shut down a nice long list of apps, but only got a marginal bump in battery. Of course it doesn't help that the radio shipping with the S7 Edge is worse than the recent Note 5 updates. Back to relying on WiFi Calling at the office again. Plus WiFi doesn't automatically reconnect if I walk out of range and back in, it waits for me to turn the screen on.
I left mine on and still get 7-7hr 30 mins of SOT
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Would you mind sharing what you disabled in total? I've shut down a nice long list of apps, but only got a marginal bump in battery. Of course it doesn't help that the radio shipping with the S7 Edge is worse than the recent Note 5 updates. Back to relying on WiFi Calling at the office again. Plus WiFi doesn't automatically reconnect if I walk out of range and back in, it waits for me to turn the screen on.
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This is my list, which did not give me the bump in battery life I was hoping for either. I'm also seeing the same wifi and radio issues as well
Is this a separate app to disable them all?
NVM I bought and took out some annoying apps its a nice sweet app!
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This is my list, which did not give me the bump in battery life I was hoping for either. I'm also seeing the same wifi and radio issues as well
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Thanks for the list.
I'm hoping the other issues get ironed out with the March or April updates that should be coming within 4-6 weeks. On the up side however, WiFi Calling connects instantly on this phone and I've yet to get double/triple/quadruple messages arriving.
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Thanks for the list.
I'm hoping the other issues get ironed out with the March or April updates that should be coming within 4-6 weeks. On the up side however, WiFi Calling connects instantly on this phone and I've yet to get double/triple/quadruple messages arriving.
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Well that's good. Silver linings and all that.
I found out that disabling the Wifi Scanning and Bluetooth Scanning options did help a bit with battery, but the issue I have with turning them off is finding another trigger for some of my Tasker profiles. Using GPS-Based location is more battery hungry than the Wifi near state, and Net-Based location and Cell Near State aren't reliable enough due to poor signal at work, so I'm stuck using the Wifi near, which requires Wifi scanning to be on.
At this point I'm waiting for an update or root to be able to squash this issue. Still happy with the phone though. I know that early software is often buggy, and this phone still has the best hardware in the game, so once the OS is updated/rooted, all will be well.
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Well that's good. Silver linings and all that.
I found out that disabling the Wifi Scanning and Bluetooth Scanning options did help a bit with battery, but the issue I have with turning them off is finding another trigger for some of my Tasker profiles. Using GPS-Based location is more battery hungry than the Wifi near state, and Net-Based location and Cell Near State aren't reliable enough due to poor signal at work, so I'm stuck using the Wifi near, which requires Wifi scanning to be on.
At this point I'm waiting for an update or root to be able to squash this issue. Still happy with the phone though. I know that early software is often buggy, and this phone still has the best hardware in the game, so once the OS is updated/rooted, all will be well.
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Absolutely! Samsung caught a lot of crap over the years (their own fault with early TouchWiz), but a complete 180 has occurred and I'm more than content to use their phones for a long time coming.
Akw6190 said:
Well that's good. Silver linings and all that.
I found out that disabling the Wifi Scanning and Bluetooth Scanning options did help a bit with battery, but the issue I have with turning them off is finding another trigger for some of my Tasker profiles. Using GPS-Based location is more battery hungry than the Wifi near state, and Net-Based location and Cell Near State aren't reliable enough due to poor signal at work, so I'm stuck using the Wifi near, which requires Wifi scanning to be on.
At this point I'm waiting for an update or root to be able to squash this issue. Still happy with the phone though. I know that early software is often buggy, and this phone still has the best hardware in the game, so once the OS is updated/rooted, all will be well.
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How did you disable bluetooth and wifi scanning? Dont see any option for that.
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Absolutely! Samsung caught a lot of crap over the years (their own fault with early TouchWiz), but a complete 180 has occurred and I'm more than content to use their phones for a long time coming.
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Agreed. I find that Samsung phones generally have the best hardware available, even if the software is slightly lacking, which I find is the case much less nowadays. But since the hardware is boss, the phone is worth a buy since most software issues can be addressed and fixed with custom ROMs. Best of both worlds IMO.
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How did you disable bluetooth and wifi scanning? Dont see any option for that.
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They're in the settings under Privacy and Safety>Location>Improve Accuracy
Now that I've got the Moto X Pure Edition activated, I've been able to work out some of the kinks inherent using it as a daily driver. One noteworthy issue that remains is an odd bug where the device will completely lose connection to the Internet on both a WiFi and cellular data connection, usually after transitioning between types of connections. When this happens, an exclamation point is displayed next to the icon representing whichever connection is currently active and nothing is able to transmit data to or from the Internet or even my local network.
Rebooting the device always fixes the problem, but this issue is materializing a bit too often for my liking, which is usually once every time that I return to a WiFi network after being disconnected from one for some time (more testing may have to be done to confirm exactly what triggers it).
The device is running the stock rom (rooted) and the stock kernel along with the usual tweaks (ad-blocking, Xposed framework, audio fixes, etc.). Anybody seen this before or know what might be causing it?
UPDATE (3/1/2017)
Figured it out! The problem appears to have been caused by my failure to whitelist certain applications in PowerNap. After following the instructions found in the Moto X Pure Edition power optimization thread, the problem appears to have vanished. I don't know if it was the Google Services Framework, JavaTcmdHelper, Android System, or some combination of those that needed to be whitelisted, but the problem has vanished. At least one of those must be responsible for verifying the validity of an Internet connection in sleep mode, which would cause the device to become confused when it would wake up with a different connection that it hadn't verified (that's my theory at least).
At any rate, it is no longer an issue.
Update (Later on 3/1/2017)
Well, it looks like it might not be fixed so well after all. A couple hours after arriving home today, I went to use the device and saw the dreaded "!" next to the network indicator. Still, two days is longer than it's ever lasted before. I've cleared the cache and dalvik/ART cache to see if something in there might be gumming it up and will add another post to this thread if the problem returns.
Still an issue
Looks like it might not be fixed after all. I lost connection again the other day in a parking lot and once more today after getting home. Any ideas as to what could be causing this?
I just recently got my x pure. I've seen this issue on mine too.
Another one!
inkdaddy66 said:
I just recently got my x pure. I've seen this issue on mine too.
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Interesting. Are you running the stock Rom? Rooted? Amplify/Greenify/PowerNap?
Bill720 said:
Interesting. Are you running the stock Rom? Rooted? Amplify/Greenify/PowerNap?
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I'm unlocked and rooted. Running validus 7.1.1 ROM.
does your configuration look anything like this?
inkdaddy66 said:
I'm unlocked and rooted. Running validus 7.1.1 ROM.
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That too is interesting. I'm running the stock Rom, (rooted) so we can probably eliminate that as a potential cause. Given how little reference there is to this on the web at large, the problem is probably caused by a common app or setting (or some kind of unfortunate combination) running on both of our phones.
All we need to do is figure out what kind of "unusual" stuff our devices have in common. I'll rattle off a list of software and settings that might be out of the ordinary or network-related; you tell me if you're running anything like it on your phone.
AdFree
A.R.I.S.E. audio
FolderSync
Ice Box (Motorola Update Service is the only frozen app)
TOTAL Wireless My Account App
Pebble, MyTracks, and Pebble MyTracks
SlingPlayer (this one sometimes wakelocks)
Titanium backup (I tried restoring some WiFi access points once, but it didn't work)
Xposed Framework with Amplify, Greenify, and Power Nap installed and configured as instructed in the Moto X Pure Edition battery life guide thread OP. I've also got MinMinGuard and YouTube AdAway.
As far as settings go, I've not got much in the way of unusual configurations. I enabled the system UI tuner to get the battery percentage and the extended developer options to try out multi-window, (and to change the animation scales to .5X) but everything in there is still pretty much stock.
Does your configuration have anything in common with mine?
Close, but no cigar
It got almost 8 days this time before it happened again. I thought that maybe switching to the legacy DHCP client had done the trick, but that was apparently not the case. Any ideas as to what could be causing the issue or how to fix it?
Or, if you're having the same problem, can you look at my list in the previous post and tell me if any of the software or settings are similar so that we can narrow down the cause?
I have had this problem appear about three times over my 13 months of ownership and all three times was when my bootloader was still locked (obviously running stock not rooted). Never found a solution except to reboot.i only unlocked and rooted my device about a month ago.
Anything familiar?
aybarrap1 said:
I have had this problem appear about three times over my 13 months of ownership and all three times was when my bootloader was still locked (obviously running stock not rooted). Never found a solution except to reboot.i only unlocked and rooted my device about a month ago.
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Interesting. Between that, my findings, and the fact that @inkdaddy66 was having the problem on a non-Motorola Rom, I want to think that we can eliminate the Rom software as a cause. Did you see any familiar software on my "potential troublemakers" list up in post 6? I'm thinking that if we can find a common program or workflow, then we'll be able to narrow down the cause of the problem.
In the meantime, I'll try posting in the general Android troubleshooting forum here on XDA and see if anybody there has seen the problem or has any troubleshooting tips.
Bill720 said:
Interesting. Between that, my findings, and the fact that @inkdaddy66 was having the problem on a non-Motorola Rom, I want to think that we can eliminate the Rom software as a cause. Did you see any familiar software on my "potential troublemakers" list up in post 6? I'm thinking that if we can find a common program or workflow, then we'll be able to narrow down the cause of the problem.
In the meantime, I'll try posting in the general Android troubleshooting forum here on XDA and see if anybody there has seen the problem or has any troubleshooting tips.
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Nothing used from your list except system UI tuner when I experienced the problems. That would leave either a ROM and/or hardware issue IMO.
Cause and effect differential diagnosis
aybarrap1 said:
Nothing used from your list except system UI tuner when I experienced the problems. That would leave either a ROM and/or hardware issue IMO.
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Hmmm... That's also interesting, but I just don't see how system UI tuner could be harming anything. Do you have any other apps or settings at all that you think could be causing the issue?
If this were anything other than my primary, I'd hard reset and troubleshoot that way, but I don't exactly have the time to pull the rug out of an otherwise-working setup right now, so this is going to have to be done the hard way (or, in the case of hardware glitch, lived with).
At any rate, I discovered a new symptom earlier in the week. This time, Internet connection was lost, but only for WiFi, so the connection would actually fall back to Cellular and still continue to work. As before, toggling the connection had no effect, but rebooting the device "fixed" it. I thought maybe it was a fluke, since we'd had an AP hiccup over the weekend, (I refuse to reboot that thing because I'm going for an uptime record) but it happened again on Wednesday, so I'm not sure what to make of it.
Side-issue aside, I'm beginning to wonder if it's some kind of combination of network behavior and usage pattern that brings the issue about. It seems like if I stay within range of the WiFi network, no issue develops, but if I move out of its coverage and don't touch the phone for a while, that allows for ideal conditions under which to replicate the problem (sometimes). I haven't nailed down a consistent pattern yet, but the problem does emerge more often when I'm returning home than at other times. Any thoughts?
Update (3/24/2017; 12:32PM)
Scratch that last part about the issue only being triggered upon "arriving home." The problem happened again this morning, in the same general area. First, no WiFI, then, after resetting the connections, no cellular either. I captured a LogCat before rebooting this time though. Anyone want to take a crack at sifting through that to see if it offers any clues?
I lose cellular data, from time to time, I don't kow if I'm losing WiFi capability also, because I'm on the road when this happens.
It takes a reboot or switching in and out of airplane mode to regain data.
I have had this happen on TruPureXMM ROM and stock-rooted Marshmallow.
I have not spent much time on stock-unrooted, so i don't know if it would happen then, also.
Possible fix
Just to follow up on this again, I have finally reached the eighth day of uptime without the problem materializing, which is the longest that I was able to go before without it happening. This time, I went in to the developer options and disabled "Cellular data always active." I'd give it another couple days to know for sure, but if this sticks, then I think we might've found the fix!
pizza_pablo said:
I lose cellular data, from time to time, I don't kow if I'm losing WiFi capability also, because I'm on the road when this happens.
It takes a reboot or switching in and out of airplane mode to regain data.
I have had this happen on TruPureXMM ROM and stock-rooted Marshmallow.
I have not spent much time on stock-unrooted, so i don't know if it would happen then, also.
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If your trouble is isolated to just one connection and/or cycling the connection brings it back, then the issue you are experiencing is unrelated to the one described in this thread.
Bill720 said:
Just to follow up on this again, I have finally reached the eighth day of uptime without the problem materializing, which is the longest that I was able to go before without it happening. This time, I went in to the developer options and disabled "Cellular data always active." I'd give it another couple days to know for sure, but if this sticks, then I think we might've found the fix!
If your trouble is isolated to just one connection and/or cycling the connection brings it back, then the issue you are experiencing is unrelated to the one described in this thread.
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Cellular data always active should never be on (it's disabled in stock rom), except if you have VoLTE only with no fallback to 3G or 2G (Jio is the only provider that comes to mind, but this phone doesn't support their service anyway) or otherwise unusual scenarios I can't really think of.
Huh, and CELLULAR DATA ALWAYS ACTIVE (for faster network switching) sounds like such a good thing.
Mine was selected on.
My loss of data happens in the same spot, usually, but is not leaving wifi. Perhaps it is a tower to tower handoff spot.
I turned it off. Time will tell.
Thanks, fellas!
pizza_pablo said:
Huh, and CELLULAR DATA ALWAYS ACTIVE (for faster network switching) sounds like such a good thing.
Mine was selected on.
My loss of data happens in the same spot, usually, but is not leaving wifi. Perhaps it is a tower to tower handoff spot.
I turned it off. Time will tell.
Thanks, fellas!
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Always on is not necessarily a good thing. Reality is that when you lose or turn off WiFi, mobile data should only be delayed only by a second or two. There is no real benefit to having it on except for maybe VOLTE.
pizza_pablo said:
Huh, and CELLULAR DATA ALWAYS ACTIVE (for faster network switching) sounds like such a good thing.
Mine was selected on.
My loss of data happens in the same spot, usually, but is not leaving wifi. Perhaps it is a tower to tower handoff spot.
I turned it off. Time will tell.
Thanks, fellas!
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Actually, it's a battery killer more than anything else... It keeps cellular data active even when on WiFi.
It is possible it's a tower thing though. I have noticed at this one hotel I stay at frequently people tell me they call and it rings or just goes to voicemail even though I have good signal. After investigating it a bit, I'm in a spot that has nearly identical signal strength from 3 towers and it's a metro area so there are 4+ bands accessible... I've seen times watching LTE Discovery where it keeps switching bands and towers for 30 to 120 seconds or so, like it can't make up it's mind what to talk to because it's confused, then it locks on for a while before it starts it's cycle again. During those cycles I think is when people can't call me, can't really say if it affects internet or not since I tend not to use my phone too much in the evenings when I'm on the road (usually on laptop).
Uptime record, but... it's back
acejavelin said:
Cellular data always active should never be on (it's disabled in stock rom), except if you have VoLTE only with no fallback to 3G or 2G (Jio is the only provider that comes to mind, but this phone doesn't support their service anyway) or otherwise unusual scenarios I can't really think of.
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Interesting. I thought for sure that I had the default settings checked in there, but maybe I did change it early on and just forgot. Either way, waiting an extra five seconds to establish a data connection isn't that huge of a deal for me, so I'll leave it off anyway in exchange for battery life when the signal's poor.
At any rate, however, the problem has returned. I was just a few hours short of 9 days of uptime and really thought that I was out of the woods with this problem, but it has returned once again upon returning into range of the home access point. Looks like we're back to the drawing board on this one.
pizza_pablo said:
Huh, and CELLULAR DATA ALWAYS ACTIVE (for faster network switching) sounds like such a good thing.
Mine was selected on.
My loss of data happens in the same spot, usually, but is not leaving wifi. Perhaps it is a tower to tower handoff spot.
I turned it off. Time will tell.
Thanks, fellas!
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So you're having the same problem too? That makes at least four of us now. Do you mind sharing what Rom and flashed tweaks (Xposed Framework, A.R.I.S.E. audio, root, etc.) you're using as well as any unusual software or settings? Anything in common with my list on page 1?
Bill720 said:
So you're having the same problem too? That makes at least four of us now. Do you mind sharing what Rom and flashed tweaks (Xposed Framework, A.R.I.S.E. audio, root, etc.) you're using as well as any unusual software or settings? Anything in common with my list on page 1?
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I think we've established that my issue is different, but it has occurred on TruPureXMM and stock but rooted Marshmallow, both with Substratum, Xposed (Gravity Box only) and Viper Atmos.
Same as you =Titanium Backup
*another* new strategy (sigh)
For this week's shot in the dark, I'm going to try manually switching WiFi off before I leave anyplace covered by an access point. Since the problem seems to occur most often when connected to WiFi or when connecting to it, maybe this will make some kind of a difference.
pizza_pablo said:
I think we've established that my issue is different, but it has occurred on TruPureXMM and stock but rooted Marshmallow, both with Substratum, Xposed (Gravity Box only) and Viper Atmos.
Same as you =Titanium Backup
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I see now; my mistake.