[Q] A few questions - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin

I recently installed and played with Task650's AOKP ROM, and loved the stock jelly bean apps like phone, contacts, and messages. However, I have some circumstances that made me flash the stock firmware back. I would really like to have the stock Google apps instead of the stock Samsung ones, is it possible to install them on stock firmware? I tried to restore via Titanium Backup, but to no avail.
Also, I really enjoy the IR blaster feature, and noticed it was not functional on the AOKP ROM, will it be supported on any future ROMS. Or are the device drivers kept under Samsung lock and key or something? Will the Google version coming out have a firmware that supports the hardware? Pending its ability to do so, will that firmware be available to install on ATT devices?
I am a first time Android user as of a few weeks ago, and am not looking back. I realized that all of the features I had to jailbreak and tweak on the iPhone are available easily! I've been scouring the forums and soaking up as much as possible.
Thanks

when you install aosp-based firmware, you then have to immediately follow that up with flashing gapps (usually posted in the dev's thread) to have the stock google applications.
some of the touchwiz features, including IR, are not available on aosp.

xBeerdroiDx said:
when you install aosp-based firmware, you then have to immediately follow that up with flashing gapps (usually posted in the dev's thread) to have the stock google applications.
some of the touchwiz features, including IR, are not available on aosp.
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I guess I should have worded my first question a little better. Is there any way to flash the gapps to a device running touchwiz?

Dankchild said:
I guess I should have worded my first question a little better. Is there any way to flash the gapps to a device running touchwiz?
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my bad. gapps packages are for aosp roms. google apps are generally included in touchwiz roms. if there are specific ones that are not included, you can find them on the google play store

Dankchild said:
I guess I should have worded my first question a little better. Is there any way to flash the gapps to a device running touchwiz?
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You're not looking for the gapps. You confused "Google apps" with "AOSP system apps made by Google". There's a thread in Themes and Apps for running CM10.1's mms.apk on TW. Minor bugs introduced. I'm not sure that I've ever seen AOSP dialer/contacts running on TW, but search around. If people have gotten it working on other devices, then there's hope.
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Check the t-mobile thread. I remember seeing some stock based roms themed to resemble aosp. They used the mms and dialer apk from aosp.
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Awesome, thanks a lot.

Dankchild said:
I guess I should have worded my first question a little better. Is there any way to flash the gapps to a device running touchwiz?
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no need for gapps with TW.

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[Q] [REQ] Smart Dialer mod

Is there a way we can get smart dialing on this phone? i know theres tons of apps out there but i like the stock look and feel of the vanilla android dialer. any help would be greatly appreciated:laugh::good::cyclops:
Would really like this feature as well.
kd78 said:
Would really like this feature as well.
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hopefully someone answers our prayers lol
Same!
When y'all are asking for a "[MOD]", does that mean you're looking for something you can flash with a recovery mod?
If yes, I know CyanogenMod adds this feature to the stock dialer. However, I don't know if that's something you can just extract the phone .apk and upload. However, if you're able to flash would you consider flashing a new ROM anyway? Most nightlies of the big roms (CM10.1, AOKP) are usually really stable on Nexus devices because they have all of the proper drivers & source for everything. Nightlies aren't as stable on other phones because they're missing device-specific drivers and such.
If no, then nevermind. I don't know of an option to add this ability to the stock dialer. Sorry.
exDialer
Been using this since I got the phone. Skinable, no ads, and quick
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.modoohut.dialer&hl=en
A couple of the custom ROMs have this feature (Paranoid Android being one of them). You can either flash one of the ROMs that include it, or try to extract the dialer apk from it and try installing it.
I would prefer a new modded apk over a new rom. Anyone have the apk from cm10?
http://www.mediafire.com/?vyezzb40e01m1eh
For deodexed ROMs
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Reinstall Gaaps after each ROM update ?

I used to update ROMs on my Motorola Defy, but I never had to reinstall Gaaps.
When you update PA, you have to reinstall Gaaps (if I have understand well), is it the same for ofther Nexus 4 ROMs ?
I'm really confused, thanks
PS: Do you still have to update ROMs using recovery (flash .zip) ? Or is there apps which do that ? I heard CyanogenMod have now an OTA update function, is it the same for PA ?
on most roms you do have to reflash the gapps after flashing the rom, unless the rom includes a script that saves them. but, it takes a few seconds to reflash the gapps anyways.
simms22 said:
on most roms you do have to reflash the gapps after flashing the rom, unless the rom includes a script that saves them. but, it takes a few seconds to reflash the gapps anyways.
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Thanks, Do you have an idea why it's not included in PA ?
RaphaelH1427 said:
Thanks, Do you have an idea why it's not included in PA ?
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most dont include it, since its just a matter of a few extra seconds of flashing.
RaphaelH1427 said:
Thanks, Do you have an idea why it's not included in PA ?
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You could make your own script to save them if you wanted. It's not difficult. However, I think occasionally the PA devs modify the gapps with their own changes so that is why they don't setup a script to save them since you would need the new custom versions.
btw, you're better off flashing in recovery. apps that flash occasionally mess up. goo manager can be used to download and flash roms/gapps/kernels.
Ok thanks guys !
RaphaelH1427 said:
Thanks, Do you have an idea why it's not included in PA ?
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Hi,
It's like on all custom roms (CM, AOSP, AOKP). If I remember right Google requested that the Gapps should not be included in the roms. It was at the time of my Gnex if I'm not wrong.
At a moment LiquidSmooth rom included the Gapps and they remove them due to Google policy.
Maybe a dev can reply... Need to confirm but there was an history about the request from Google to not include the Gapps but as a separate package.
EDIT: more information here: http://wiki.rootzwiki.com/Google_Apps
viking37 said:
Hi,
It's like on all custom roms (CM, AOSP, AOKP). If I remember right Google requested that the Gapps should not be included in the roms. It was at the time of my Gnex if I'm not wrong.
At a moment LiquidSmooth rom included the Gapps and they remove them due to Google policy.
Maybe a dev can reply... Need to confirm but there was an history about the request from Google to not include the Gapps but as a separate package.
EDIT: more information here: http://wiki.rootzwiki.com/Google_Apps
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Thanks you rocks !
aLeda said:
I used to update ROMs on my Motorola Defy, but I never had to reinstall Gaaps.
When you update PA, you have to reinstall Gaaps (if I have understand well), is it the same for ofther Nexus 4 ROMs ?
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As the guys above said, it's mostly a license issue. You cannot include Gapps in a product you launch as your own because unlike other apps like Messaging and Camera, Gapps are not exactly a part of AOSP; they are made by Google. The thing is, developers like the one for your Motorola Defy get away with adding gapps in their ROMs because they are unofficial builds of CM and Google cannot keep a check on all the ROMs out there. The same way the case for my Samsung Galaxy Ace.
For official builds, however, you always require Gapps package to be flashed separately because Google has an eye on the official ones.
rhoadster91 said:
As the guys above said, it's mostly a license issue. You cannot include Gapps in a product you launch as your own because unlike other apps like Messaging and Camera, Gapps are not exactly a part of AOSP; they are made by Google. The thing is, developers like the one for your Motorola Defy get away with adding gapps in their ROMs because they are unofficial builds of CM and Google cannot keep a check on all the ROMs out there. The same way the case for my Samsung Galaxy Ace.
For official builds, however, you always require Gapps package to be flashed separately because Google has an eye on the official ones.
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Ok I understand better now thanks

[Req.] Galaxy S4 Camera apk

Can anyone please upload the TW camera apk?
I am also looking for the gs4 camera apk. Please let me know when you find a link.
Stock Samsung GS4 camera app.
Having trouble with XDA so can't upload. Snag it from my Dropbox: **Link active for 3 days....no thanks=no extended host. **
CCallahan said:
Stock Samsung GS4 camera app.
Having trouble with XDA so can't upload. Snag it from my Dropbox: Samsung_Camera 2.zip (Not a flashable file)
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If I am running slim bean how to I make this my camera?
Floppy454 said:
If I am running slim bean how to I make this my camera?
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Not specific to slim bean, but there are a few things you have to check:
1. Is your ROM odex or deodex. The camera here is the odex version.
2. I think you will have a lot of FC trying some of the features unless you also grab seccamera.jar from the framework.
3. Many times the camera is also tied to the gallery, so you may also need that apk (and all associated files)
If you still want to try to install this and see what happens, you need to open the zip and use a root explorer app to put the two files in the system/app folder. You may also need to fix the permissions after copying. After that, restart the phone and see if it works.
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Even with all the extra files I can't get it to work, there are probably other modifications that need to happen before it would work on a different system.
There are quite a few libraries needed (18 libarc*.so and at least 10 others), so it's not an easy port.
tsachi said:
Not specific to slim bean, but there are a few things you have to check:
1. Is your ROM odex or deodex. The camera here is the odex version.
2. I think you will have a lot of FC trying some of the features unless you also grab seccamera.jar from the framework.
3. Many times the camera is also tied to the gallery, so you may also need that apk (and all associated files)
If you still want to try to install this and see what happens, you need to open the zip and use a root explorer app to put the two files in the system/app folder. You may also need to fix the permissions after copying. After that, restart the phone and see if it works.
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Even with all the extra files I can't get it to work, there are probably other modifications that need to happen before it would work on a different system.
There are quite a few libraries needed (18 libarc*.so and at least 10 others), so it's not an easy port.
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any chance someone can upload this zip as i too seem to have misplaced my camera
CCallahan said:
Stock Samsung GS4 camera app.
Having trouble with XDA so can't upload. Snag it from my Dropbox: **Link active for 3 days....no thanks=no extended host. **
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I'd really appreciate a repost of the link!!
So, no one who has the apk for s4 camera yet? I'm on a aosp based rom, but the only "Sammy - feature" I miss is the camera.
Also I have the i9505. Anyone who knows if I can use camera apk. from other s4 models?
Thanks in advance.
http://db.tt/QVthAzLO
Link just to the galaxy s4 camera.apk on i9505.
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benbird7 said:
http://db.tt/QVthAzLO
Link just to the galaxy s4 camera apk? on i9505.
Sent from my GT-I9505 using xda app-developers app
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Thanks for the link!
Can't get it to work though, maybe it has to be a Sammy based rom?
Was kinda hoping I could port it to aosp.
Rydder said:
Thanks for the link!
Can't get it to work though, maybe it has to be a Sammy based rom?
Was kinda hoping I could port it to aosp.
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The camera (as well as a number of other features such as IR Blaster, temp/humid sensors, etc.) require the touchwiz framework in order to work. This means that they will not work on ANY AOSP roms. This includes, AOKP, CM, Slimbean, etc. They will only work on roms that run a touchwiz framework.
As far as porting goes, it would require a ton of modifications require access to drivers and libraries which samsung has not made available in order to complete a port. Nothing is impossible so I won't go as far as saying it won't be done, but it will be extremely difficult and time consuming so many developers have been discouraged from even attempting this. Only time will tell if we'll ever get these things ported.
Thanks for sharing the your info on this, I won't be sitting around waiting for a port sometime soon then!
bacon_n_icecream said:
The camera (as well as a number of other features such as IR Blaster, temp/humid sensors, etc.) require the touchwiz framework in order to work. This means that they will not work on ANY AOSP roms. This includes, AOKP, CM, Slimbean, etc. They will only work on roms that run a touchwiz framework.
As far as porting goes, it would require a ton of modifications require access to drivers and libraries which samsung has not made available in order to complete a port. Nothing is impossible so I won't go as far as saying it won't be done, but it will be extremely difficult and time consuming so many developers have been discouraged from even attempting this. Only time will tell if we'll ever get these things ported.
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hello , so this apk file have the same features like the s4 camera on a touchwiz framwork??
bacon_n_icecream said:
The camera (as well as a number of other features such as IR Blaster, temp/humid sensors, etc.) require the touchwiz framework in order to work. This means that they will not work on ANY AOSP roms. This includes, AOKP, CM, Slimbean, etc. They will only work on roms that run a touchwiz framework.
As far as porting goes, it would require a ton of modifications require access to drivers and libraries which samsung has not made available in order to complete a port. Nothing is impossible so I won't go as far as saying it won't be done, but it will be extremely difficult and time consuming so many developers have been discouraged from even attempting this. Only time will tell if we'll ever get these things ported.
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I was hoping the Google Edition would have the Samsung features built in, but I guess not.
PwnCloud said:
I was hoping the Google Edition would have the Samsung features built in, but I guess not.
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I wonder if anyone tried the camera yet on a Google Edition rom? I might give it an attempt later and see what happens.
CatFood said:
I wonder if anyone tried the camera yet on a Google Edition rom? I might give it an attempt later and see what happens.
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It is ok, but the Samsung Camera app is way better.
A massive pity really... I may dump Google Edition, or perhaps find a 3rd party camera that can do the Picture-In-Picture feature.... which I love.
bacon_n_icecream said:
The camera (as well as a number of other features such as IR Blaster, temp/humid sensors, etc.) require the touchwiz framework in order to work. This means that they will not work on ANY AOSP roms. This includes, AOKP, CM, Slimbean, etc. They will only work on roms that run a touchwiz framework.
As far as porting goes, it would require a ton of modifications require access to drivers and libraries which samsung has not made available in order to complete a port. Nothing is impossible so I won't go as far as saying it won't be done, but it will be extremely difficult and time consuming so many developers have been discouraged from even attempting this. Only time will tell if we'll ever get these things ported.
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Hey guys. You are not right. The temp and humid sensor will also work on AOSP Roms. Search for WeatherStation.apk It worked all fine by me
Oh and I use CM10.1^^
help
Is it possible to install on PAC 23.0.0 rom?
Galaxy s4 stock android edition 4.2.2
Nop it docent work the camera apk so sad :/// i have another problem i connect my phone to my laptop windows 8 it fines the device buy i can see anywhere the sd or internal memmorie any solution out their ?
when im on stock Samsung rom i have no problem of the above ty in advance!
CCallahan said:
Stock Samsung GS4 camera app.
Having trouble with XDA so can't upload. Snag it from my Dropbox: **Link active for 3 days....no thanks=no extended host. **
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Hiii can i grt the app i searched alot for it really alot i have s4 i9500 but i flash it with slimkat rom and i miss the stock app

help me root/rom

I have broken my htc one I got from my brother so I am back to using the sgs4 I have, never planed to use the htc one for so long it just happens that way because of the speakers I used it to play music at work anyways I am going to use the sgs4 and root/rom it
I have rooted/romed in the past with my sgs1 using cm9 and used odin so I understand most thigns
not sure what info is useless here since I have been out of this for a while now, I actually posted about this same topic a while ago but then I got a htc one and with my ADD I forgot about this
Code:
Android 4.3
Software L720VPUEMK2
Hardware: L720.08
Baseband L720VPUEMK2
Kernel 3.4.0-1927016 [email protected]#1 Sat Nov 16 11:05:09 KST 2013
Build JSS15J.L720VPUEMK2
SELinux Status: Enforcing SEPF_SPH-L720_4.3_0012
I assume I have to root first and then go from there - or can I just odin and have everything I need? I hate using odin so I want to use that as little as I can
do I have to odin since I have everything updated stock?
basically I am asking what do I have to do now, I have been reading for a few hours now and I have been out of this scene for a while now and its hard to get the answers by reading everything since there is lots of stuff not related to what I want and people have been doing this for a while and the phone has been out for a while now so its hard not being in this from the beginning
thanks for your help
leftkidney said:
I have broken my htc one I got from my brother so I am back to using the sgs4 I have, never planed to use the htc one for so long it just happens that way because of the speakers I used it to play music at work anyways I am going to use the sgs4 and root/rom it
I have rooted/romed in the past with my sgs1 using cm9 and used odin so I understand most thigns
not sure what info is useless here since I have been out of this for a while now, I actually posted about this same topic a while ago but then I got a htc one and with my ADD I forgot about this
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Android 4.3
Software L720VPUEMK2
Hardware: L720.08
Baseband L720VPUEMK2
Kernel 3.4.0-1927016 [email protected]#1 Sat Nov 16 11:05:09 KST 2013
Build JSS15J.L720VPUEMK2
SELinux Status: Enforcing SEPF_SPH-L720_4.3_0012
I assume I have to root first and then go from there - or can I just odin and have everything I need? I hate using odin so I want to use that as little as I can
do I have to odin since I have everything updated stock?
basically I am asking what do I have to do now, I have been reading for a few hours now and I have been out of this scene for a while now and its hard to get the answers by reading everything since there is lots of stuff not related to what I want and people have been doing this for a while and the phone has been out for a while now so its hard not being in this from the beginning
thanks for your help
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Start here.... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291827
Safe Root works great for our phone. Here is the link: http://www.droidviews.com/root-verizon-galaxy-s4-sch-i545-on-android-4-3-vruemk2/ . I know, it takes you off of xda, but you can root your phone with out using odin. It is quick and easy. You can then install a twrp through goo manager. No need to use odin for that. Good luck.
I used CF Auto root. Its awesome.
Then I used ROM manager from the market to flash in CWM.
In my reading I saw most.the recoveries being used were Philz and TWRP.
So after I let ROM manager flash CWM I DL.the latest Philz zip and flashed it from recovery.
Made many a nandroid and jump from TW to AOSP every day. *****The one thing you need to know is....have SE Linux checked under misc nandroid settings****otherwise it's no fun.
If you say "Please" be sure to "Hit Thanks!!!"
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I used CF Auto root. Its awesome.
Then I used ROM manager from the market to flash in CWM.
In my reading I saw most.the recoveries being used were Philz and TWRP.
So after I let ROM manager flash CWM I DL.the latest Philz zip and flashed it from recovery.
Made many a nandroid and jump from TW to AOSP every day. *****The one thing you need to know is....have SE Linux checked under misc nandroid settings****otherwise it's no fun.
If you say "Please" be sure to "Hit Thanks!!!"
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so I have used cf auto root and installed cwm the rommanager that worked pretty well
I will assume that installing roms is the same as before after this
I am glad to see that things have been simplified here I will post back if I have problems again
I am wondering what is the best rom for me, I dont really care much if I have the touchwiz I used midnightrom and CM9 on my sgs1 epic before and loved it the lack of touchwiz wasnt a problem for me - I dont like any of the samsung apps at all and never want to use the sprint apps, I would not like it if the widgets go away I use those for my btc prices and my mining rig hashrate
I could use a stock rom for this phone if all the crappy sprint apps have been removed
like I said I have been out of this game for a while and at the time CM9 was just about the best rom out so I used that, all the others were good just didnt have as many features
leftkidney said:
I am wondering what is the best rom for me
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Everyone has their own preferences, so you just need to look at what's available. The great thing about Android is that there are so many options, but that creates a fair amount of work too. With root you can delete whatever app you want, so bloatware isn't much of an issue. To see what apps are safe to remove, most ROM developers post what they remove. You can also freeze the apps using things like Titanium Backup, so that you can easily restore them if you decide you want something back.
nobody291 said:
Everyone has their own preferences, so you just need to look at what's available. The great thing about Android is that there are so many options, but that creates a fair amount of work too. With root you can delete whatever app you want, so bloatware isn't much of an issue. To see what apps are safe to remove, most ROM developers post what they remove. You can also freeze the apps using things like Titanium Backup, so that you can easily restore them if you decide you want something back.
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yea I know there are lots of roms, what are some of the most stable roms out - I can see that the cyanogenmod is only nightly builds nothing stable is that a problem, I havent seen CM in this forums on the first few pages so is it not one of the better ones anymore?
what are a few of the most stable roms that have most of the features that would be needed - nothing that has strange glitches like in the past there were problems with GPS working and a few other things
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yea I know there are lots of roms, what are some of the most stable roms out - I can see that the cyanogenmod is only nightly builds nothing stable is that a problem, I havent seen CM in this forums on the first few pages so is it not one of the better ones anymore?
what are a few of the most stable roms that have most of the features that would be needed - nothing that has strange glitches like in the past there were problems with GPS working and a few other things
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What you are asking for is HERE in these forums. PLEASE do your own searching and research for these answers This particular question "..Best ROM" is one of the biggest no no's across all XDA.
Search, READ, experiment and you will find what suites you.
Good luck.
I am going to skirt the "best rom" issue and just drop a list of what has been good for me... If you try all of these you'll certainly find one that works for you. I have intentionally mixed up the order here to avoid hurting anyone's feelings.. LOL
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2521870
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2588745
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2512983
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2312063
Take a weekend and try them all. Make backups of each as you go through them and your all set!
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What you are asking for is HERE in these forums. PLEASE do your own searching and research for these answers This particular question "..Best ROM" is one of the biggest no no's across all XDA.
Search, READ, experiment and you will find what suites you.
Good luck.
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you are absolutely right I dont know why I even asked that "best rom" it was stupid I admit it I feel stupid about that one I dont want to say I mistyped but I wasnt thinking I totally understand the reason why its a bad question to ask and why there isnt a real answer so I am sorry and I do know its one of those things you dont ask I have read that in the past but I forgot or something
what I ment to say was mainly what roms are the most complete in the sense that they have all the things working that should be like gps/wifi/4g/lte things like that, in the past a few roms were missing things like that
are there any that certain apps wont work for? I use and rely on "no led" app I just love the way it shows the colored icons on screen
leftkidney said:
what I ment to say was mainly what roms are the most complete in the sense that they have all the things working
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The big split in ROMs is between touchwiz and AOSP. Touchwiz is Samsung's layer on top of the core Android Google produces. Some features like multi-window, the standard Samsung keyboard, air gesture, etc. rely on touchwiz to work. I'm sure you can find a complete list of what relies on touchwiz to see if any of it is important to you. I think most ROMs will have all radios working, but like others have said, just make sure to have backups of your current setup to go back to and experiment, and since you already have the MK2 modem, make sure whatever ROM you choose is compatible with MK2. It doesn't take all that long to flash different ROMs and see what you think.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but custom ROMs just take existing modules and combine them to save you work. But, you can start with the stock rooted ROM and build your own experience from there too. Check out the hotspot mod, custom kernels, Xposed modules, various themes, and build something that works for you.
nobody291 said:
The big split in ROMs is between touchwiz and AOSP. Touchwiz is Samsung's layer on top of the core Android Google produces. Some features like multi-window, the standard Samsung keyboard, air gesture, etc. rely on touchwiz to work. I'm sure you can find a complete list of what relies on touchwiz to see if any of it is important to you. I think most ROMs will have all radios working, but like others have said, just make sure to have backups of your current setup to go back to and experiment, and since you already have the MK2 modem, make sure whatever ROM you choose is compatible with MK2. It doesn't take all that long to flash different ROMs and see what you think.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but custom ROMs just take existing modules and combine them to save you work. But, you can start with the stock rooted ROM and build your own experience from there too. Check out the hotspot mod, custom kernels, Xposed modules, various themes, and build something that works for you.
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so yea I dont really like the touchwiz interface I liked using the stock android theme my last phone had using CM9 so touchwiz isnt really needed
I do need to be able to use widgets though like the ones for apps that show me the prices of gold/silver my bitcoins/litecoins and the mining speed from my miners using the api I have - dont some of the widgets need touchwiz to work, not the touchwiz widgets but the ones that apps create
I have installed roms before so I know its not hard but once you get into this things can get out of control and after a while you find your self having to use odin and then things get scary cuz lets face it who really likes using odin unless something has changed from last year odin is just about the only thing that could really brick your phone if something goes wrong
thanks for your help I will give it a go and hope nothing bad happens
If you don't like touchwiz, but want the full functionality of you phone features. Why not use a different launcher? There are a lot to choose from.
leftkidney said:
dont some of the widgets need touchwiz to work
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In my experience, there are Samsung widgets that not only require touchwiz, but also require Samsung's launcher. I use several widgets designed for multiple Android devices, and I don't think they care about touchwiz.
cruise350 said:
If you don't like touchwiz, but want the full functionality of you phone features. Why not use a different launcher? There are a lot to choose from.
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you mean just install a different launcher?
I dont want any of the sprint crap on the phone either no need for sprint news and all that crap
wouldnt just installing a different launcher just be a skin you cant remove touchwiz from what I remember so I need a rom that doesent have touchwiz in it
leftkidney said:
you mean just install a different launcher?
I dont want any of the sprint crap on the phone either no need for sprint news and all that crap
wouldnt just installing a different launcher just be a skin you cant remove touchwiz from what I remember so I need a rom that doesent have touchwiz in it
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Yes, you had stressed earlier that you wanted all things working. If you want any of the S features to work on your phone than you need to keep touchwiz as your base rom. Installing a different launcher can give you that. If you like the look of AOSP, there is a new google now launcher that can provide more of an AOSP look. You can remove a lot of the bloat and sprint stuff fairly easily with TiBu or a root file explorer. Just be cautious, removing some of the Sprint stuff will screw up your phone and cause the ability to update PRL or Profile to fail.
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Yes, you had stressed earlier that you wanted all things working. If you want any of the S features to work on your phone than you need to keep touchwiz as your base rom. Installing a different launcher can give you that. If you like the look of AOSP, there is a new google now launcher that can provide more of an AOSP look. You can remove a lot of the bloat and sprint stuff fairly easily with TiBu or a root file explorer. Just be cautious, removing some of the Sprint stuff will screw up your phone and cause the ability to update PRL or Profile to fail.
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yea wanted all things working but I guess after looking at it I dont use much of the "S" features if at all so I will just have to try some out and see whats up
one thing I was wondering about is the "gapps" in the past I had to make sure it was the exact right one for the exact rom I was using but now I dont see much about saying a specific version of gapps for the roms rather just to install gapps and get the latest one - so the gapps that would be for the sprint phone should work for the roms?
I do however like the feature where you wave your hand over the screen when its off and it lights up to show you the time and info, it would suck if that went away but I can deal with it
I would like to know if there are any problems with using the samsung tec tiles, those NFC sticker tags with other roms that wouldnt have any touchwiz stuff
I assume that they are just NFC so they should work but I want to be sure
I havent installed a rom yet been busy - but I did get root
I noticed I have an OTA update waiting, I assume its 4.4 so if I update will I have problems rooting or remove root and make installing roms hard?

New Firmware - Old ROM

N910c user here with the latest 5.1.1 Firmware from SamMobile (N910CXXS2CPK1_N910COLB2COJ5_N910CXXU1COJ5).
Is it good/bad to flash an older ROM? A Custom ROM that based on an older firmware?
The device is currently on stock and rooted.
Mods: Please do delete/move this thread if there is a similar thread or wrong thread section.
Thanks!
Anyone?
Your questions are not easy to answer. It's all personal preference.
Some like ROMS that are as close to stock as possible, some like ROMs that are slim as possible, and don't have all the stock apps and want to install something else. Like a different messenger or launcher or email app.
Some like to have the latest and greatest on the phones or a Custom ROM that is based on another firmware. The problem there is most don't understand that the firmware was never built for their model of phone, so it won't always work right.
dicksteele said:
Your questions are not easy to answer. It's all personal preference.
Some like ROMS that are as close to stock as possible, some like ROMs that are slim as possible, and don't have all the stock apps and want to install something else. Like a different messenger or launcher or email app.
Some like to have the latest and greatest on the phones or a Custom ROM that is based on another firmware. The problem there is most don't understand that the firmware was never built for their model of phone, so it won't always work right.
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Oh... I see your point
Thanks for the answer!
By all means, I just want to debloat my stock n910c using a custom rom like SimplROM but it seems that I am out of the current release.
Laicure said:
Oh... I see your point
Thanks for the answer!
By all means, I just want to debloat my stock n910c using a custom rom like SimplROM but it seems that I am out of the current release.
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Just root, download titanium backup and remove all the bloat you dont want. No need to flash custom rom
callumbr1 said:
Just root, download titanium backup and remove all the bloat you dont want. No need to flash custom rom
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oh yes I just did that. I just don't have a concrete list of freezable apps for Note 4 so I am leaning on pre-made ROM if possible. I think I'll just do it on my own. Thanks, by the way
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oh yes I just did that. I just don't have a concrete list of freezable apps for Note 4 so I am leaning on pre-made ROM if possible. I think I'll just do it on my own. Thanks, by the way
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SimplROM Lite is about as slim as you can get. SimplROM is pretty good. There's a lot more dependencies then there used to be.
Take is slow and keep doing backups. If something breaks you can go back and bypass what you removed and move on.
Laicure said:
oh yes I just did that. I just don't have a concrete list of freezable apps for Note 4 so I am leaning on pre-made ROM if possible. I think I'll just do it on my own. Thanks, by the way
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If you have a good look on here somebody has posted a list of all bloatware removed from stock rom just be very careful when freezing or removing any apps highlighted in red as they are all the system apps
Great replies! Thanks!
I'll be listing my Titanium Back-up freezed apps here on weekend
Then I'll iterate it for updates as I freeze apps and go on my usual usage

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