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[Q] coming from a prime, have a question on an acer.

I currently have the Asus prime and love the tablet, but it doesn't work for my needs as a multimedia device on the go. With the blue tooth and streaming video/audio issue, my main purpose of it is no longer functional. I could careless about the gps.
I was looking at the Acer 500 tablet. I know it would be a tegra2 compared to the tegera3 and there is the 510 model just released. After the mess that is happening with the prime I'm hesitant to try another brand spanking new model right out of the gates. I don't mind yesterdays technology if it's proven to work and tweaked already. Plus it should be a bit cheaper.
So my question is, how do you owners of the Acer brand of tablets like your devices? Particularly the media abilities of it. I use youtube, stream tv shows, stream cartoons, and internet radio. Being able to use my blue tooth headset is my sore spot and is what I'm looking to rectify with a different tablet.
I do some gaming but not much on the android platform has really taken me yet. If these Acer models play Order and Chaos then it would be a boon.
Thanks for any suggestions or advice.

THere are video limitations with 1080p . mosy 720 will play fine. Streaming for me works well,of course some of the roms are better then others.I will not make comments on any of them. I would say read the forums of those roms.Order and Chaos does actually run very well on my A500. as with most other android games. I can also say my Bluetooth motorola hd 9 headset works flawless.
Good Luck .

Its OK
I have an a500, video and audio streamig works fine, same goes for bluetooth, I hate how the browser auto closes when it runs out of memory specially when watching heavy loaded web sites (I mean heavy Flash content).
I am on stock 3.2.1 rom, no root.
I love the big usb port as I can connect almost anything, I have a USB hub and can connect 4 things at the same time (memory, keyboard, mouse and gamepad).
Sound is good, not top best but is ok.
No good 1080p playback as Erica already said.
No GPS issues unless you go for custom roms.
Planned to update to ICS by the end of the month.

I like my A500 but I would never go from a Prime to an A500.
I don't have any issues with my device per say. I run netflix, crunchyroll, etc. on there and I use plex as well as tversity so 1080p videos and anything out of the scope of compatibility for my tablet from my library aren't an issue for me. Like you, I use it for multimedia purposes and I am satisfied.
My unwanted 2c is you just wait for a patch that makes you LOVE your Prime. It took several software revisions before Acer got it right with Honeycomb on the A500 and Tegra3 as well as ICS is brand spanking new so I'd give it a bit more time. I stuck with the A500 because I liked it and I found the USB port useful but as I said, I would not go from a Prime to an A500 for the mere fact that the Prime is technically speaking, a newer device with better/faster hardware and a better screen....even if you THINK you don't care about Tegra3 vs. Tegra2, once Asus gets the software refined, overall it will be better than the A500. If it's a case where you have some disposable dollars and are thinking of getting the A500 in the interim, go ahead; but if you're going to swap/exchange the Prime and then buy an A500 I would heartily advise against it.
Good Luck to you, whatever you decide.

As for me, here is what I can say about the A500 :
- for the videos, I'm used to ripping my DVDs and blu-rays so I can read them on the tablet. My favorite format is MP4. Nothing special to say about DVDs, but as for the Blu-rays 720p main profile works fine (high profile does not), just as 1080p low profile (both main and high profile won't be readable with a comforable frame rate). It's also a matter of bit rate : for 720p main profile, 3500 Kbps is almost perfect, 4000 Kbps is fine 90% of the time but it can get really laggy for some minutes at times. For 1080p low profile, 5500 Kbps was fine, haven't tested anything else yet because anyway good 1080p compressed movies weighs like 8GB and with FAT32 you're supposed to be limited to 4GB. No noticeable quality differences with the tablet screen anyway, and very little on a large TV screen given the compression, so to me 720p main profile remains the best choice.
- Sound is surprisingly good but mic really (and I mean really) sucks. Barely usable.
- Screen isn't as accurate as on other tablets. It makes no differences at all for a normal use but if you intend to handwrite it is still possible but not perfect.
- Battery life is fine for me, but it lasts less than others. Like 6 to 8 hours in video, the same for a standard use (internet, reading,...).
- The screen is good, but again not as good as the Asus's screens or iPads and Galaxy tabs ones.
- The USB port is a huge feature for me, it works just fine with my NTFS external hard disk, with all my USB keys, with all my USB PC controllers (that are already set the right way !), with my keyboard, my mouse, and my USB hub so I can use my keyboard and mouse at the same time on the tablet !
- With Honeycomb, internet browsing is a little bit too slow and lacks smoothness for me with the default browser (I'm used to great smoothness and speed with my SGS 2), so I chose to use Dolphin Mini, which is fine. Hope the ICS update will fix that though.
In conclusion it's a good device but for 2011, you're likely to be disappointed coming from a Transformer Prime. Better wait for the A510 or the A700 to my mind.

Thanks for the replies everyone. I'm going to hold on to the prime for another 2 weeks or so and see how the 510 is holding up. It's always the customers that find the little quirks which are not noticed by the manufactures in their testing phases.
Thanks again!

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fsured said:
I currently have the Asus prime and love the tablet, but it doesn't work for my needs as a multimedia device on the go. With the blue tooth and streaming video/audio issue, my main purpose of it is no longer functional. I could careless about the gps.
I was looking at the Acer 500 tablet. I know it would be a tegra2 compared to the tegera3 and there is the 510 model just released. After the mess that is happening with the prime I'm hesitant to try another brand spanking new model right out of the gates. I don't mind yesterdays technology if it's proven to work and tweaked already. Plus it should be a bit cheaper.
So my question is, how do you owners of the Acer brand of tablets like your devices? Particularly the media abilities of it. I use youtube, stream tv shows, stream cartoons, and internet radio. Being able to use my blue tooth headset is my sore spot and is what I'm looking to rectify with a different tablet.
I do some gaming but not much on the android platform has really taken me yet. If these Acer models play Order and Chaos then it would be a boon.
Thanks for any suggestions or advice.
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i really love my tab
it supports all my needs
but on a500 you have to use external 3g modem (i dont use 3g on my tab)
if 3g is important i would rather a501
but the other things about it is really good
i use it for media too. i even dont use my pc since ive got it
and about the 1080p video playback
hardware codecs are kinda laggy but i use software decoders and its ok

Making Streamer Out of Nexus 10 (Via HDMI Cable), Will it be Worth it?

Hello to all people,
I've been reading quite a lot lately about (android) tablets because I want to buy one at last.
I managed to shrink my options to 2: Nexus 10 and Asus Transformer Pad Infinity.
After hard digging about the Infinity in the forums I decided to drop it and go with Nexus 10.
One of the reasons I want a tablet is to make a streamer on the go from it...
I want to connect it to my TV with a HDMI cable to stream some movies.
But from tons of the reviews I read, I only noticed one review mentioning the quality and stability of the streaming. And It wasn't positive.
So I am asking you guys (and girls), what's your experiences on using the tablet this way?
Sorry for my poor English, its not my native language.
Thank you in advance for your answers,
Leon.

HDMI streaming works good. The picture quality is great; however, I do not get any audio through HDMI. This might be a cable issue. Not a big deal since you can output audio through the audio jack.
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Just tried it. Works great hooked up to my surround set. I get audio as well so everything works
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Thanks for the answer you 2.
Although there is many threads on some issue when streaming via HDMI, like no sound and black stripes on the sides and flickering I was reading....
makes me kinda worry...

Can you make full-screen the tv with no black spaces in the sides? i hate that
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Works great on the N10. Don't buy an Asus tablet though. Their software is laggy and buggy as hell, and they don't support their devices. I had a TF201 and it was absolutely nothing but headaches. Stay away from Asus. You've been warned.
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nyijedi said:
Works great on the N10. Don't buy an Asus tablet though. Their software is laggy and buggy as hell, and they don't support their devices. I had a TF201 and it was absolutely nothing but headaches. Stay away from Asus. You've been warned.
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Well that's why I said I am choosing Nexus 10 over the Asus one... You are not the only one who suffered, and I read most of the complains people wrote.
I have other question though.
Since I lack the experience on the issue:
How does optical audio cable can be used with an HDMI cable to stream audio from the first and video from the second?
Asking because I have a receiver connected to my 5.1 audio set.

Does work, but mine struggles with higher bitrate 1080p movies over wifi.
There are bars but these may be able to be removed if you get rid of the 3 quick buttons at the bottom, not sure if this is possible with custom software.
Not quite sure what you mean by this comment:
"How does optical audio cable can be used with an HDMI cable to stream audio from the first and video from the second?"

re: stay away from Asus
nyijedi said:
Works great on the N10. Don't buy an Asus tablet though. Their software is laggy and buggy as hell, and they don't support their devices. I had a TF201 and it was absolutely nothing but headaches. Stay away from Asus. You've been warned.
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Couldn't agree more. I tried out a TF700 from Amazon for a month, and during that period I had to exchange once from Amazon for a defect in the screen, then send the replacement in for warranty repair because of the same problem. Got it back from warranty 'repair' and it had the same problem in a different location of the screen. Returned them both to Amazon and bought a Nexus 10 from the Play store on launch day.
Couldn't be happier.
I was also amused that the rep claimed they had no prior reports of the screen/bezel problem, when the TF700 threads on here are filled with posts about it. And of course, if you've unlocked your bootloader (using the tool they provide) you have absolved them of any responsibility to repair manufacturing defects that passed through 'quality control' at their factory.

MPJ88 said:
Does work, but mine struggles with higher bitrate 1080p movies over wifi.
There are bars but these may be able to be removed if you get rid of the 3 quick buttons at the bottom, not sure if this is possible with custom software.
Not quite sure what you mean by this comment:
"How does optical audio cable can be used with an HDMI cable to stream audio from the first and video from the second?"
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What I meant to ask is this:
I know that Nexus 10 does not posses optical audio port (TOSLINK), so I was wondering what people that want to use this sort of audio output do? Withought forgetting that the HDMI cable is beeing used for the picture and not the sound...
bachamn said:
Couldn't agree more. I tried out a TF700 from Amazon for a month, and during that period I had to exchange once from Amazon for a defect in the screen, then send the replacement in for warranty repair because of the same problem. Got it back from warranty 'repair' and it had the same problem in a different location of the screen. Returned them both to Amazon and bought a Nexus 10 from the Play store on launch day.
Couldn't be happier.
I was also amused that the rep claimed they had no prior reports of the screen/bezel problem, when the TF700 threads on here are filled with posts about it. And of course, if you've unlocked your bootloader (using the tool they provide) you have absolved them of any responsibility to repair manufacturing defects that passed through 'quality control' at their factory.
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That's quite the horror story :cyclops:

TheBigL said:
Hello to all people,
I've been reading quite a lot lately about (android) tablets because I want to buy one at last.
I managed to shrink my options to 2: Nexus 10 and Asus Transformer Pad Infinity.
After hard digging about the Infinity in the forums I decided to drop it and go with Nexus 10.
One of the reasons I want a tablet is to make a streamer on the go from it...
I want to connect it to my TV with a HDMI cable to stream some movies.
But from tons of the reviews I read, I only noticed one review mentioning the quality and stability of the streaming. And It wasn't positive.
So I am asking you guys (and girls), what's your experiences on using the tablet this way?
Sorry for my poor English, its not my native language.
Thank you in advance for your answers,
Leon.
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Streaming works great here. I can tell you as a former infinity owner that the nexus 10 blows it out of the water...
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TheBigL said:
What I meant to ask is this:
I know that Nexus 10 does not posses optical audio port (TOSLINK), so I was wondering what people that want to use this sort of audio output do? Withought forgetting that the HDMI cable is beeing used for the picture and not the sound...
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so you want something like this?:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=1011002&p_id=5557&seq=1&format=2#description

MPJ88 said:
so you want something like this?:
-- "Link you gave me" -- (I cant repost it because I am a new posting user)
Yes, Thank you very much. :good:
I now know the direction I am heading to.
But I would like to keep it more cleaner and simpler.... Isn't it any other way to just split the HDMI cable into an HDMI and optical audio cable?
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Speaking of HDMI out, is it possible to disable the tablet screen while outputting to a TV? Kinda like how a laptop works?

zero383 said:
Speaking of HDMI out, is it possible to disable the tablet screen while outputting to a TV? Kinda like how a laptop works?
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Yes, I'd like to know that also. My previous tablet was a BB PlayBook and it had controls for when you were connected to HDMI that let you control the output resolution, whether audio was passed through etc.. Is there anything like this in Android?

zero383 said:
Speaking of HDMI out, is it possible to disable the tablet screen while outputting to a TV? Kinda like how a laptop works?
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tofo17 said:
Yes, I'd like to know that also. My previous tablet was a BB PlayBook and it had controls for when you were connected to HDMI that let you control the output resolution, whether audio was passed through etc.. Is there anything like this in Android?
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Try an app called Screen Standby. Works great for me on my Galaxy Nexus.
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TMFGO45 said:
Try an app called Screen Standby. Works great for me on my Galaxy Nexus.
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Thanks for that unfortunately it needs root and I don't want to go there (yet).
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TMFGO45 said:
Try an app called Screen Standby. Works great for me on my Galaxy Nexus.
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Tried it but doesn't work with my rooted Nexus 10. The screen flashes and stays on instead of turning off.

I connected the Nexus 10 to my TV:
- stereo audio is ok
- bad picture quality (its resizing)
- big black borders at the left and right side
- wrong frame rate on TV - movies look very bad
for me its a no go. Its absolutely not worth it.

I think it certainly must be possible as toslink is digital audio and hdmi outputs digital audio as well. I don't think any conversion would be needed so all you need is someone who makes the cables and takes the audio pinouts from the hdmi and routes them to a toslink cable as well. Unfortunately there isn't exactly a massive demand for such a cable so either find someone who makes the cables or maybe trawl the hi-fi websites to see if anywhere would sell them.
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HDMI and VGA

Hi again,
Seems the thread I started on this disappeared. In short I want to use the note in class and make presentations. I finally got the hdmi adapter and then the hdmi to vga. However the resolution is very low to the projector (e.g., 640x480). I can not find how to change or an app to do so. I am out of luck?
thanks
dave

dtl said:
Hi again,
Seems the thread I started on this disappeared. In short I want to use the note in class and make presentations. I finally got the hdmi adapter and then the hdmi to vga. However the resolution is very low to the projector (e.g., 640x480). I can not find how to change or an app to do so. I am out of luck?
thanks
dave
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Poor quality HDMI to VGA? I don't recommend going tablet-> HDMI-> VGA, do you have the option for dvi? That's be better
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ECOTOX said:
Poor quality HDMI to VGA? I don't recommend going tablet-> HDMI-> VGA, do you have the option for dvi? That's be better
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There in lies the problem. Nope the only to link to the universities projection system is vga. At this time universal among universities.

dtl said:
There in lies the problem. Nope the only to link to the universities projection system is vga. At this time universal among universities.
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Well only thing I cab day then it's more than likely a poor quality adapter. Now is it an actual converter box or just a cable?
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I just recently purchased a wips1000 from teqavit. You can Google search it. It connects to VGA or HDMI, then connects wirelessly to your note. I use it while teaching classses on less lethal munitions. I can walk around the room and wirelessly broadcast my screen to the projector. Thus the students are able to see my tablets screen exactly as I move thru the presentation.
And if you broadcast from a laptop(still learning how to do this part from the tablet) if the student have their own ipad/ android tablets... it will broadcast right to their tablets in front of them.
I think it is really going to bring the quality of my classes up to a whole new level. Not sure if this is what you were talking about but I thought I would throw it out there.

lawdawg45238 said:
I just recently purchased a wips1000 from teqavit. You can Google search it. It connects to VGA or HDMI, then connects wirelessly to your note. I use it while teaching classses on less lethal munitions. I can walk around the room and wirelessly broadcast my screen to the projector. Thus the students are able to see my tablets screen exactly as I move thru the presentation.
And if you broadcast from a laptop(still learning how to do this part from the tablet) if the student have their own ipad/ android tablets... it will broadcast right to their tablets in front of them.
I think it is really going to bring the quality of my classes up to a whole new level. Not sure if this is what you were talking about but I thought I would throw it out there.
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Thanks for this info. If I've understood well Teqavit Wips 1000 could work as an alternative to Sansung's Allshare Cast Dongle.
I've Googled it and found out the producer page, but I didn't find info about:
What's its price range compared to Samsung Dongle?
What app should be run in the Note to broadcast its screen to the receiver?
EDIT: Possible answers to Q2 WiFi-Doc? MobiShow?

lawdawg45238 said:
I just recently purchased a wips1000 from teqavit. You can Google search it. It connects to VGA or HDMI, then connects wirelessly to your note. I use it while teaching classses on less lethal munitions. I can walk around the room and wirelessly broadcast my screen to the projector. Thus the students are able to see my tablets screen exactly as I move thru the presentation.
And if you broadcast from a laptop(still learning how to do this part from the tablet) if the student have their own ipad/ android tablets... it will broadcast right to their tablets in front of them.
I think it is really going to bring the quality of my classes up to a whole new level. Not sure if this is what you were talking about but I thought I would throw it out there.
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interesting. I have the samsung system coming in today and will try that. But I will look into this one. How is the quality? Are you doing any powerpoints? .

ECOTOX said:
Well only thing I cab day then it's more than likely a poor quality adapter. Now is it an actual converter box or just a cable?
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It is the samsung hdmi adapter. and the samsung hdmi to vga adapter. I am thinking that it is detecting the adapter and lowering the quality of the resolution. That is the only think I can of happening. I have the allshare dongle coming in today and maybe this will work but it will still have to go through the adapter so I am not confident.

dtl said:
It is the samsung hdmi adapter. and the samsung hdmi to vga adapter. I am thinking that it is detecting the adapter and lowering the quality of the resolution. That is the only think I can of happening. I have the allshare dongle coming in today and maybe this will work but it will still have to go through the adapter so I am not confident.
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Yea I'm thinking it's an adapter issue, I'm looking the idea of using the broadcaster, seems like it would be a real boon to any presentation c:
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I have just started to use the GNote to give lectures. I use the Allshare Cast Dongle to make the wireless connection to the GNote. As all my lecture theatres are still using old tech data projectors I had to source a digital to analog converter. This takes the HDMI signal from the Allshare cast dongle and converts it to analog. The converter has a female Dsub connector which the vga type cable form the data projector can be plugged into. I was worried it might not work that well but it has exceeded my expectations. The quality is great and the being wirless has much potential. You can get get the converters on Ebay. I suspect this is quite critical so I got a decent one from Startech.com.

dtl said:
It is the samsung hdmi adapter. and the samsung hdmi to vga adapter. I am thinking that it is detecting the adapter and lowering the quality of the resolution. That is the only think I can of happening. I have the allshare dongle coming in today and maybe this will work but it will still have to go through the adapter so I am not confident.
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opps it is not a Samsung hdmi to vga adapter

sphere314 said:
Thanks for this info. If I've understood well Teqavit Wips 1000 could work as an alternative to Sansung's Allshare Cast Dongle.
I've Googled it and found out the producer page, but I didn't find info about:
What's its price range compared to Samsung Dongle?
What app should be run in the Note to broadcast its screen to the receiver?
EDIT: Possible answers to Q2 WiFi-Doc? MobiShow?
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I checked. Price range 300ish to 500ish . I called the company and they said there are two types one that broadcasts 7209 and the other 1020 p which is the 1000. He said because of the higher resolution the refresh rate is low on the 1000 and best on the 340 or the new 510. Price is too steep for me for out of pocket especially if image is low quality for ppts. It may be an adapter issue for me I am exploring what might be best. Seems prices are all over 18 to 50$$. I would hate to have the ipad one up us on this!

dtl said:
I checked. Price range 300ish to 500ish...
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Before I got the Allshare Cast Dongle I evaluated MobiShow and Wifidoc. They work OK over wifi but they are far more limited compared to the Allshare Cast Dongle. The Allshare Cast Dongle mirrors the GNote screen which is its massive advantage IMO. Just wish it had a snappier name...

I just used it again today to demonstrate to the Chief for a court room project we are working on. I streamed a movie to the HD TV using a HDMI cable from the wips1000 to the TV. The picture was great and there was never a hang up. I also went through three power point presentations and had absolutely no problems with resolution or lag or anything. And if you use Polaris office to do the ppt presentation or office suite hey both have the ability to use the S pen to underline or highlight things on the presentation slides during the presentation.
Cost is steep 440 for the wips1000. But it is very small and portable and if you will be traveling it's worth it.
The app for mirroring the tablets screen to the TV or projector is mirrorop ...
And the wips1000 will also interface with SmartBoard if you are presented with one of those when your teaching.
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Another plus and part of the cost and why I chose the wips1000 over other options is that it broadcasts its own access point. With the other dongles you have to connect to an existing wifi network. The wips1000 and the 350 and 450 all create their own wifi network access point.
Many times when I go train another agency their wifi is locked down and the IT guys has to enter my laptops Mac address in to their network to give it connection permissions. A real pain in the butt ... but the wips series devices create their own wifi network, no internet mind you, but that's how you connect wirelessly. So you aren't dependant on access to an existing wifi network.
Somebody above mwntioned uaing existing wifi with a dongle witj mediocre results. I suspect thay even if you did have access to an existing wifi network and were using a dongle, your performance could be hampered by other traffic flow on that network.
Just food for thought.

jeremyr62 said:
I have just started to use the GNote to give lectures. I use the Allshare Cast Dongle to make the wireless connection to the GNote. As all my lecture theatres are still using old tech data projectors I had to source a digital to analog converter. This takes the HDMI signal from the Allshare cast dongle and converts it to analog. The converter has a female Dsub connector which the vga type cable form the data projector can be plugged into. I was worried it might not work that well but it has exceeded my expectations. The quality is great and the being wirless has much potential. You can get get the converters on Ebay. I suspect this is quite critical so I got a decent one from Startech.com.
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Great do you have a name for this. This is cool because the one I have does not work well

dtl said:
Great do you have a name for this. This is cool because the one I have does not work well
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The one I purchased is the HD2VGAE from Startech.com.
http://eu.startech.com/AV/Converter...Desktop-PC-Laptop-Ultrabook-1920x1080~HD2VGAE

Wireless Display TV's (UK)

We are thinking of buying a TV around a 40" and wanted to know if there are wireless display TV's that are compatible with the Nexus 4. My bro has a 32" LG TV that works but its smaller than what we want.
Any recommendations are appreciated. (UK only)

ermacwins said:
We are thinking of buying a TV around a 40" and wanted to know if there are wireless display TV's that are compatible with the Nexus 4. My bro has a 32" LG TV that works but its smaller than what we want.
Any recommendations are appreciated. (UK only)
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Stick with the LGs for wireless display & Miricast with the N4. Argos and Currys were both doing decent deals recently.
The 42ln575v @ Argos/Currys for 370 or the 42ln578v for 399 at Currys are decently priced
The LG remote app in the play store is pretty good and some models come with nfc tags to launch the remote etc.
I picked up a similar one, a little better panel than the above one and am really pleased so far and the NowTV passes for Sky movies and sports will come in handy too. I'd recommend it, but the price has gone back up on it....

jmcgraw said:
Stick with the LGs for wireless display & Miricast with the N4. Argos and Currys were both doing decent deals recently.
The 42ln575v @ Argos/Currys for 370 or the 42ln578v for 399 at Currys are decently priced
The LG remote app in the play store is pretty good and some models come with nfc tags to launch the remote etc.
I picked up a similar one, a little better panel than the above one and am really pleased so far and the NowTV passes for Sky movies and sports will come in handy too. I'd recommend it, but the price has gone back up on it....
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Thanks for the info, I take it there is noting smaller than 42"?

ermacwins said:
Thanks for the info, I take it there is noting smaller than 42"?
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Currys has the 39ln575v for 30 quid more (£399) than the 42"!
For the price, I didn't think there was much better value to be found than these particular 42" models.

jmcgraw said:
Currys has the 39ln575v for 30 quid more (£399) than the 42"!
For the price, I didn't think there was much better value to be found than these particular 42" models.
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So any TV that says built in wifi, will that do the job or is it LG technology?
edit: This it? http://www.richersounds.com/product/tv---all/lg/39ln575v/lg-39ln575v £40 cheaper

To be honest, I don't know.
Some other TVs may play nicely with Miracast on the N4. Some may not have used the standard to the letter or may have done a custom implementation of wireless display and may not work properly.
If you find a model you prefer I'd either test it in the shop or google "nexus 4 +TVmodel wireless display" at least.
Let me say that it was one of my considerations in getting an LG but even if it didn't work I still would have gotten the TV I did. The LG is a nice tv.

I have never had a problem with LG t.v,s and personally recommend them also , have used both mirror cast via wifi and slimport both without any problems.
That also goes for Toshiba.
One company I have read a lot of problems with is Samsung , all be it I bet the sg3 /sg4 work fine with them.
So I guess you known were I am coming from LG nexus 4 = LG T.V. Samsung t.v = s4 / s3. Just my thoughts and not exact science.
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@jmcgraw those LG's are pretty much sold out and prices gone up where available. I tried a Sony tv and noticed there is a like a 1 second lag. Is there any lag with your LG?

ermacwins said:
@jmcgraw those LG's are pretty much sold out and prices gone up where available. I tried a Sony tv and noticed there is a like a 1 second lag. Is there any lag with your LG?
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Yeah, it seems up to a second occasionally as well.
I think it's fine most of the time, but if I was playing a lot of games I'd probably want to use a slimport adapter instead.

jmcgraw said:
Yeah, it seems up to a second occasionally as well.
I think it's fine most of the time, but if I was playing a lot of games I'd probably want to use a slimport adapter instead.
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Do you think its worth getting a ptv3000 instead? That way I can get a cheaper tv?

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Do you think its worth getting a ptv3000 instead? That way I can get a cheaper tv?
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I don't know. If you already had a tv you were happy with otherwise then sure, the ptv is a reasonable addition.
If you find a great deal on a cheaper/nonsmart tv then it would be a good alternative as well, but if you're only going to be saving £20 to £30 I'm not sure it would be worth it.
Have you considered a slimport adaper or a chromecast?

jmcgraw said:
I don't know. If you already had a tv you were happy with otherwise then sure, the ptv is a reasonable addition.
If you find a great deal on a cheaper/nonsmart tv then it would be a good alternative as well, but if you're only going to be saving £20 to £30 I'm not sure it would be worth it.
Have you considered a slimport adaper or a chromecast?
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Slimport is wired right? And the chromecast can't mirror everything can it like all apps, games and videos

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Slimport is wired right? And the chromecast can't mirror everything can it like all apps, games and videos
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Sadly not. Its very very limited. Before I was able to play my offline music on tv but Google decided to block that feature with an update . Only plays music purchased from Google music.
The YouTube updates made it worst. I connect it to my Tv; play one video. All going well. But if my Nexus 4 screen goes to sleep it stops working. If I want play next video; I have to reconnect it to my TV.
Oh and after switching my router security to wpa2; chromecast cannot be detected anymore. I searched online and it's not only me. Now, It's just sitting on my computer table collecting dust.
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Slimport is wired yes and plays/shows everything on the screen as long as the screen is on.
Mirrorcast and chromecast both rely on wifi.
Tried both and personally prefer slimport its dam cooool.
Games are hard to play thought as you need sometimes to look at the phone to hit the buttons e.t.c which means you're not concentrating on the T.V.
If you get one of them game controllers you should be o.k.
It would need to be a Bluetooth one or one that doesn't connect to the micro USB out socket as you need that for the slimport.
Sorry I no nothing about controllers as I have never used one.
Phone : Nexus 4 /Rom : cataclysm / Kernel : Stock.

bladebuddy said:
Slimport is wired yes and plays/shows everything on the screen as long as the screen is on.
Mirrorcast and chromecast both rely on wifi.
Tried both and personally prefer slimport its dam cooool.
Games are hard to play thought as you need sometimes to look at the phone to hit the buttons e.t.c which means you're not concentrating on the T.V.
If you get one of them game controllers you should be o.k.
It would need to be a Bluetooth one or one that doesn't connect to the micro USB out socket as you need that for the slimport.
Sorry I no nothing about controllers as I have never used one.
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I actually have my PS3 working with my phone via the sixaxis app and works perfectly.

No HDMI passthru - Is anyone else rumored to make hardware?

I was really disappointed to learn that this doesn't have HDMI passthru. I was hoping that the whole user experience would be an overlay on the video signal like what they are doing with the new Xbox. Are there any rumors of other manufacturers that will be making hardware for this platform that might be doing HDMI passthru or does Android TV just not support that at this time?

What? DAMNIT!! Was hoping that it would be able to replace my Logitech Revue, which I would then move to the den! UGH!!! Nevermind, may not buy this then, or just get it for the den. This sucks!!

I don't understand why you guys expected hdmi passthrough. There was no mention of it at IO and I think they even came out and said they were not going that route anymore. AndroidTV is about the future which means all streaming, all in one box, one input. Use a HTPC and an XBMC front end to watch live and recorded tv on the nexus players and there is no longer a need for any STB so no need for HDMI passthrough. This is what I do already with my firetvs [emoji106]
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I don't understand why you guys expected hdmi passthrough. There was no mention of it at IO and I think they even came out and said they were not going that route anymore. AndroidTV is about the future which means all streaming, all in one box, one input. Use a HTPC and an XBMC front end to watch live and recorded tv on the nexus players and there is no longer a need for any STB so no need for HDMI passthrough. This is what I do already with my firetvs [emoji106]
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Because I was hoping that it would be able to replace my Logitech Revue in the living room....alas, it looks like it will not. I will probably still buy it though, but for the Den, where much TV is not watched.

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I don't understand why you guys expected hdmi passthrough. There was no mention of it at IO and I think they even came out and said they were not going that route anymore. AndroidTV is about the future which means all streaming, all in one box, one input. Use a HTPC and an XBMC front end to watch live and recorded tv on the nexus players and there is no longer a need for any STB so no need for HDMI passthrough. This is what I do already with my firetvs [emoji106]
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Whether or not that is the future or not remains to be seen. Regardless it is far from being a mainstream viewing approach for the life of this product. The vast majority of consumers will continue to have a cable or satellite service for the forseeable future.

sublimnl said:
I don't understand why you guys expected hdmi passthrough. There was no mention of it at IO and I think they even came out and said they were not going that route anymore. AndroidTV is about the future which means all streaming, all in one box, one input. Use a HTPC and an XBMC front end to watch live and recorded tv on the nexus players and there is no longer a need for any STB so no need for HDMI passthrough. This is what I do already with my firetvs [emoji106]
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did you even watch the keynote?
android TV is about software - not hardware. it has a tv input framework built right in so manufacturers can take advantage of lots of different tv input options, be it integrated dvb, hdmi input, sat>ip etc.
the nexus player is the first of a long line of android tv devices., no, it does not have hdmi in - but that does not mean that other boxes in the future from different manufacturers wont.
they are actively working with STB manufacturers so that one day - you might not even need to use hdmi input and it will all be done over IP.
all this talk of using xbmc as a frontend is a bit stupid when android tv has it built right in. you just need to be patient for more hardware to come on the market.
https://developer.android.com/training/tv/tif/index.html

Have there been any other vendors that have definitely announced products coming or is everything a rumor this point?

blackic3 said:
did you even watch the keynote?
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I did but apparently your memory is better than mine. I stand corrected.
Using xbmc as a front end isn't stupid though as that works today while nothing else I am aware of does. Of course if a better method of getting live tv and DVR functionality on android tv comes along I will be more than willing to switch to whatever is the BEST method for my purposes.
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yes their is
http://www.zte-enterprise.com/blog/zxv10-b800s2/
you can be the first