[Q] Any reason to go with 32gb unit over 16gb - Nook HD, HD+ General

Besides the obvious of more storage. There any reason a 32gb would be prefered over a 16gb HD+ ???
Any of the rom or other distros/bootloaders make use of this space for scratch disk or loading other OSes ?

vm5150 said:
Besides the obvious of more storage. There any reason a 32gb would be prefered over a 16gb HD+ ???
Any of the rom or other distros/bootloaders make use of this space for scratch disk or loading other OSes ?
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I've been pondering the same thing. My guess is the cost probably doesn't justify it, seeing as you can store stuff on SD.

I originally thought the same thing about the issue, so I bought the 16GB. It was a mistake.
The reason is because of the way stock and the emmc version of CM10.1 use the internal memory instead of the SD. It treats the internal memory as primary and all downloads and app media files get put there. The SD is treated as secondary storage and only gets used if you specifically copy files there.
However, if you are going to run CM10.1 off SD, the opposite is true, where SD is primary. But I still recommend getting the largest size device available.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.

I had the same question in mind. I actually picked up a 16 and 32GB at the same time as I wasn't sure. So it seems the 32 GB is the best bet.
I have Nook Color running CM10.1 - the downloads go to the SD card. Would this device not do the same ?

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[Q] New SD Card

I'm putting anew 16gb card into my nook to replace the 2gb that is currently in. What do I need to do to make sure everything works correctly? This nook running CM7 is only 2 days old so I really don't have installed yet.
If you plan to use the card for running CM7 or phiremod you need a sandisk class 2 or 4 card. If not, there are no card issues that I'm aware of. If you're asking about moving your apps I'd just reinstall. Titanium Backup is the preferred app for backing up and restoring apps if you want to try it. There are threads about moving CM7 card installs to larger cards. I think you just image the old card, put the image on the new card and expand the partition to fill the new card.
I found a Sandisk microsdhc 32GB class 4 on amazon for $59.
Would it work?
"Would it work?"
Dunno.
This thread is the clearinghouse for all info about which sd cards work for booting. There's not enough information about 32GB cards yet to know how it would work. That's a decent price though so it might be fun to get one and try.

Nook Color Noob Questions

Hello, I new to the Nook Color. I just ordered a couple for the kids for X-Mas. I'm no stranger to rooting etc. As I understand it CM7 will be running off the Micro SD card correct? Does it matter what type of card I use? Does anything get saved to the NC internal memory such as downloads etc? My big question is, Does the Micro SD card's class have any effect on performance? Would getting a class 10 vs class 2 make a difference? Thanks.
The higher the class the faster the performance it will be if ur running the rom from the sd card which you plan to do.
I am running from internal memory but all my stuff is saved on the memory card naturally, I don't have to guide it there it just does it.
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The higher the class the faster the performance it will be if ur running the rom from the sd card which you plan to do.
I am running from internal memory but all my stuff is saved on the memory card naturally, I don't have to guide it there it just does it.
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Will it perform better from internal memory than class 10 micro sd? If so is there a guide to do this and would it still require an external card for other stuff? I plan on using CM7 stable and the guides I've seen are for booting from external.
Check this post it might help you decide on what sd card to use and wether to run from internal memory or external: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18430544
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jgaf said:
Check this post it might help you decide on what sd card to use and wether to run from internal memory or external: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18430544
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Thanks... I must have missed this in my search(es).
It has been extensively discussed here. The class is less important than getting a Sandisk card. Class 2 or 4 are fine. They will perform about as well as internal memory. Any others brand, even those with a higher class will suffer more FC's and not perform as well. My class 6 PNY WAS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO A CLASS 4 Sandisk.
I don't know the thread, but it is well documented and should be able to find via search.
My recommendation would be to run CM7 off the internal eMMC and use a blank SD card for backup and storage. In that case it doesn't really matter what card you use but since they are all fairly cheap these days I would get an 8GB card class 6 or higher. One for each Nook. Also get a 3rd card that you will use as a bootable card for the installation. Keep that card handy in case you ever need to reinstall CM7 or if you need to restore to stock for a warranty claim. I kept mine and keep a copy of my currently nightly (201) as well as a full stock ROM (1.3). I already had to make use of it once when I needed to have my Nook replaced under warranty.
Thanks everyone for helping me get pointed in the right direction. I plan on installing CM7 to internal memory and have everything I need to get started.
I don't know if you care, but I would do a first run on the Nook Color and register the device with B&N prior to wiping it and installing CM7 in case you run into warranty issues (such as replacing the USB cord) which you will need to have registered for.
Otherwise +1 on the Sandisk micro SD cards, class # across manufacturers varies wildly. My Sandisk class 4 16GB card outperforms both my class 6 PNY and Transcend 8GB cards in small writes/reads. I had random force closes on the Transcend when I first installed CM7 before I switched to the Sandisk.
EMMC > SD install if you like to tinker with your installs --- the agnostic sd card image here has a barebones recovery and you will not be able, afaik, to manually wipe partitions etc if you so desire or flash non-signed roms and themes (please correct me if I'm wrong, which I very well may be).
I used to dual boot (stock EMMC, CM7 SD card) but as things have progressed this year there's no reason for me to stick to even nootered stock --- the performance difference between stock and CM7.x is massive, and the big bugs have been fixed (SOD, battery drain). Even if you like the default reader app, there's great generic ereaders out there (and now with Overdrive app from Google Market, the ability to borrow DRMed epubs like you could with the native Nook reader client).
Just one note I would add to the above. When deciding between an internal install and dual boot, note that some have reported issues with the latch for the sd card breaking with frequent removals of the sd cards. This latch repair requires factory return. I, personally, would recommend internal install with an sd card for storage. This will prevent frequent removal of the sd card and will extend the life of the card latch.
Just my two cents.....
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You don't have to remove the sd card to boot stock.. just power up while holding the N button and you will be given a choice of which system to boot.. this is true if using the Size Agnostic procedure documented here on XDA.
Moshe5368 said:
Just one note I would add to the above. When deciding between an internal install and dual boot, note that some have reported issues with the latch for the sd card breaking with frequent removals of the sd cards. This latch repair requires factory return. I, personally, would recommend internal install with an sd card for storage. This will prevent frequent removal of the sd card and will extend the life of the card latch.
Just my two cents.....
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The point is well-taken because every time you update your rom, you'll have to take out the card, BUT you have to do that even with the internal memory (emmc) install. But as the previous post indicated, you don't need to take out the card just to boot to stock. I would strongly recommend that you not install the rom to the emmc until after your warranty expires. That way, if you have any problem with the NC, you can simply take out the card, and you're back to stock, i.e. none of the "restore to stock" stuff you'd need to do if you put CM7 on the emmc.

[Q] SD card space

Under storage settings.
Shows me SD Card total space 116MB Available space 12.52MB. My SD card was a 32 gig class 10.
Internal storage 4.9GB
Available space 4.33GB
Also C7 will boot without memory card in it. My cousin helped me root it and we used the SD card to root it. According to him I should be able to take the SD card out and boot into the normal NOOK settings. This correct?
I am getting errors when I try to install things to SD. Tells me there is not enough room.
Sorry if this doesn't make much sense still very new to this.
Thanks for the help.
First, go to Settings>CyanogenMod settings>Application> and make sure Use internal storage is unchecked.
Then go to Setting>Storage and let us know about SD card, Internal and Additional storage values.
K9Shep said:
Under storage settings.
Shows me SD Card total space 116MB Available space 12.52MB. My SD card was a 32 gig class 10.
Internal storage 4.9GB
Available space 4.33GB
Also C7 will boot without memory card in it. My cousin helped me root it and we used the SD card to root it. According to him I should be able to take the SD card out and boot into the normal NOOK settings. This correct?
I am getting errors when I try to install things to SD. Tells me there is not enough room.
Sorry if this doesn't make much sense still very new to this.
Thanks for the help.
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Sounds like you installed CM7 to the internal memory, not to an external SD card. that's probably why you are seeing the space available on internal memory, but not the SD card. There is Verygreens's method to install CM7 and CM9 to the external card, leaving the stock Nook ROM in place, but it doesn't sound like you used it. To get answers to most of your questions, go to Leapinlar's great information page here:
Leapinlar's Tips
Specifics relating to installing CyanogenMod on an SD card are in the second post.
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Sounds like you installed CM7 to the internal memory, not to an external SD card. that's probably why you are seeing the space available on internal memory, but not the SD card.
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Yes, I agree. It sounds like his friend set it up to install to SD by burning the image to the card, but somehow flashed the rom to internal memory instead. That would explain the 5GB internal space and 116Mb SD card space.
He needs to reformat the SD card to get the full size of the card available.
leapinlar said:
Yes, I agree. It sounds like his friend set it up to install to SD by burning the image to the card, but somehow flashed the rom to internal memory instead. That would explain the 5GB internal space and 116Mb SD card space.
He needs to reformat the SD card to get the full size of the card available.
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Well sounds like the stock nook interface is gone then. No big deal. Do I just reformat the SD card through the settings in android? The option states Erase SD Card. Would that be what I want to do?
Also not sure if this is related. But sometimes C7 wont boot when I have the SD card in. Take the SD card out and it boots just fine.
Well I grew a pair and did the Erase SD Card. Now it is showing 29.66GB.
K9Shep said:
Well I grew a pair and did the Erase SD Card. Now it is showing 29.66GB.
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LOL. Good job. Yes, stock Nook is gone. I can help you get it back if you want it, but most never miss it. The only reason people want it is for warranty or if they want to have kids books work.
Random side question but figured since I have ya here.
Any idea on a good note taking app for android? As in for school notes like during class?
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Random side question but figured since I have ya here.
Any idea on a good note taking app for android? As in for school notes like during class?
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Don't use it much for that, but Googling yields this:
Best note-taking apps for Android

[Q] Confused about internal storage and SD Card usage

Android newbie here. I just inherited a Nook Color, and was able to successfully flash over CM10.1 RC1 on it with the latest Google Apps, and everything seems to be working nicely. Being new to Android, and I guess in particular to the Nook Color, the internal storage partitions are a bit confusion. I flashed this Nook Color to have the "newer" partition configuration, 5GB data and 1GB media storage when the previous owner was starting to run low on app space. Now that I have it, the configuration seems to be the same (I guess CM10.1 doesn't touch partition configurations)...
That said, my problem lays with how storage is used. In the storage menu I see three types of storage, two internal and one sd card.
Internal Storage = Total space 5.09 GB (no option to unmount)
SD Card = Total Space 898 MB (option to unmount available)
Internal Storage = 791 MB (option to unmount available)
From what I understand, is that, the first Internal storage is where the OS sits and is allocated for apps and what not. The SD Card, is obviously my 1GB SD Card I used to flash CM10.1 RC1. The third item, the second internal storage listed, I believe is supposedly the media storage, for mp3s, documents, etc.
What confuses me is when I want to save photos from the browser or download files using either the web browser or accessing my Skydrive, they all require I have my SD Card inserted, even though I have that Internal Storage free? Removing my SD card will prompt apps to say "SD Card Required." Any way to use the internal memory instead of having to perpetually have an SD card in my Nook Color? Thanks!
Not with CM10.1. CM7 had an option to swap internal and external SDs, but it is missing in CM10.1. Best to just get a second SD to keep there all the time. That 791MB will disappear quickly anyway when you start downloading things. SDs are cheap and roomy. Many apps won't work without one.
Btw, you were right on your assumptions for everything.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
leapinlar said:
Not with CM10.1. CM7 had an option to swap internal and external SDs, but it is missing in CM10.1. Best to just get a second SD to keep there all the time. That 791MB will disappear quickly anyway when you start downloading things. SDs are cheap and roomy. Many apps won't work without one.
Btw, you were right on your assumptions for everything.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
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Thanks for the info. So since the media storage is pretty much being wasted space, I should just repartition the entire thing for OS and App installs (seems like by default Apps install to that partition and not the SD card)? I hope CM10.1 later on rectifies this. Things go nuts when I plug in the Nook Color and the SD card gets mounted and unmounted, forcing me to have to restart. I see things like multiple 2GiB files on the SD card even though the card is really only 1 GiB? Really weird.
SDreamer said:
Thanks for the info. So since the media storage is pretty much being wasted space, I should just repartition the entire thing for OS and App installs (seems like by default Apps install to that partition and not the SD card)? I hope CM10.1 later on rectifies this. Things go nuts when I plug in the Nook Color and the SD card gets mounted and unmounted, forcing me to have to restart. I see things like multiple 2GiB files on the SD card even though the card is really only 1 GiB? Really weird.
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It is not wasted, you can store things there if you want. And no, there is no reason to repartition farther than you already have. 5GB is huge for storing installed apps and their settings.
And you should get a relatively large SD (certainly 8GB or above) and leave it in the slot all the time. That is the way it is intended to be used. Then you will have no issues with removing the SD. That smaller SD should be burned as a bootable CWM SD and saved for future use. You WILL need it later.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
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It is not wasted, you can store things there if you want.
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Leapinlar is, of course, right. Some apps can be told to use it, some can't. I use /emmc (now really /storage/sdcard0) for my music and podcasts.
If you stay one step behind the biggest SD cards, they're dirt cheap.
I ended up repartitioning mine to use the newer NC style 5GB for apps and 1GB for sdcard0... had some issues with my physical SD card not working on CM10.1 even though it works fine in the same NC on CM7 where it would show many times more GBs of used space than the size of the card, and eventually the files would go all corrupted, so I ended up having to get a nicer SD card. CM10.1 is picky about brand/speed of microSD you use.

lagging MicroSD xc 64GB

Hello,
I have a problem when i play music from my external sd card,
When i hit play , it faltering music what i hear.
I reflash it whit stock rom, same result.
I use Samsung music player and Google play music
Can someone give me advice?
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Hello,
I have a problem when i play music from my external sd card,
When i hit play , it faltering music what i hear.
I reflash it whit stock rom, same result.
I use Samsung music player and Google play music
Can someone give me advice?
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this tablet doesnt support 64 gb sd cards
only 32 gb or lower
That's wrong. Just trying to clarify. I am running a 64g card in my tab 2 10.1" I have it formatted as fat32. It is a Sandisk. I would say to move everything over to your computer and reformat it. Then use the test disk program and make sure it passes. I don't have any lag with songs or data. I use Foldermount with several large data files programs and they run fine.
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That's wrong. Just trying to clarify. I am running a 64g card in my tab 2 10.1" I have it formatted as fat32. It is a Sandisk. I would say to move everything over to your computer and reformat it. Then use the test disk program and make sure it passes. I don't have any lag with songs or data. I use Foldermount with several large data files programs and they run fine.
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It's actually half wrong. Because originally our device was released running ICS, which only supports up to 32GB external storage, this is what the spec states. HOWEVER, now it has a Jellybean update it can run 64GB external storage (since Jellybean can support up to 64GB cards).
So to clear this up, if you're still on ICS, you can only have up to 32GB cards. I suggest updating to Jellybean if you want to run 64GB cards. If you are running Jellybean already you need to format the SDXC 64GB card on your PC using the Fat32 format before using on your device.
It's also worth noting that if you are storing files over 4GB or around 4GB on the card it WILL run very, very slow.
Ics also supports 64gb
Worked on Sony Ericsson Xperia arc and Asus tf300
You need to format it in the actual device and as said above file size limit of 4gb and fat 32
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It's actually half wrong. Because originally our device was released running ICS, which only supports up to 32GB external storage, this is what the spec states. HOWEVER, now it has a Jellybean update it can run 64GB external storage (since Jellybean can support up to 64GB cards).
So to clear this up, if you're still on ICS, you can only have up to 32GB cards. I suggest updating to Jellybean if you want to run 64GB cards. If you are running Jellybean already you need to format the SDXC 64GB card on your PC using the Fat32 format before using on your device.
It's also worth noting that if you are storing files over 4GB or around 4GB on the card it WILL run very, very slow.
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Wrong again, well half wrong, 64GB do indeed work on ICS just they have to be formatted to fat32, JB adds support for the native format of 64GB cards.
as for the OP's issue, I use Poweramp and when I first got this tablet I had the occasional skip so what I did was go into its setting and increase the Audio Buffer size.
Screenshot and happened :thumbup:
Stock no root
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Working
Ok, formated on pc as fat32.
now it play much better.
thx
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It's actually half wrong. Because originally our device was released running ICS, which only supports up to 32GB external storage, this is what the spec states. HOWEVER, now it has a Jellybean update it can run 64GB external storage (since Jellybean can support up to 64GB cards).
So to clear this up, if you're still on ICS, you can only have up to 32GB cards. I suggest updating to Jellybean if you want to run 64GB cards. If you are running Jellybean already you need to format the SDXC 64GB card on your PC using the Fat32 format before using on your device.
It's also worth noting that if you are storing files over 4GB or around 4GB on the card it WILL run very, very slow.
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and what about a Samsung Galaxy gio wich runs Android 2.3.6? 64gb works on that phone to
If you actually all read what I wrote properly, I said ICS doesn't SUPPORT 64GB cards. NATIVELY. Yes, they may work. But OFFICIALLY, ICS does not support 64GB cards. Anybody who thinks otherwise needs to do their own research. :silly:
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If you actually all read what I wrote properly, I said ICS doesn't SUPPORT 64GB cards. NATIVELY. Yes, they may work. But OFFICIALLY, ICS does not support 64GB cards. Anybody who thinks otherwise needs to do their own research. :silly:
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That's wrong as well.
64 Gb cards are normally formatted using the Microsoft proprietary exFAT file system. Microsoft somehow managed to arm-twist media manufacturers into using exFAT, which only some versions of Linux support.
If you format your 64 Gb or larger card using the free, unencumbered FAT32 file system, it'll work just fine with Android.
exFAT does have some real advantages, as the overhead (wasted space used by filesystem bookeeping) is lower. And exFAT allows very large files (more than 4 Gb.)
So,there's nothing special about 64 Gb cards other than the default filesystem. Reformat using FAT32 and you'll be fine.
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That's wrong as well.
64 Gb cards are normally formatted using the Microsoft proprietary exFAT file system. Microsoft somehow managed to arm-twist media manufacturers into using exFAT, which only some versions of Linux support.
If you format your 64 Gb or larger card using the free, unencumbered FAT32 file system, it'll work just fine with Android.
exFAT does have some real advantages, as the overhead (wasted space used by filesystem bookeeping) is lower. And exFAT allows very large files (more than 4 Gb.)
So,there's nothing special about 64 Gb cards other than the default filesystem. Reformat using FAT32 and you'll be fine.
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Right but what I said was Android ICS only supports 32GB. If you disagree would you kindly find some official documentation stating otherwise? Thanks dear.
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Right but what I said was Android ICS only supports 32GB. If you disagree would you kindly find some official documentation stating otherwise? Thanks dear.
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Because ICS doesn't support exFAT. Can you kindly find some official documentation stating otherwise? Thanks.
In other words, you're right. And I'm right. You're telling people that they're officially unsupported (which is quite correct), and I'm telling them how to use them,
If we only discussed what was officially supported, xda-developers would be a pretty empty site.
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Because ICS doesn't support exFAT. Can you kindly find some official documentation stating otherwise? Thanks.
In other words, you're right. And I'm right. You're telling people that they're officially unsupported (which is quite correct), and I'm telling them how to use them,
If we only discussed what was officially supported, xda-developers would be a pretty empty site.
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You are right. :highfive:
Formatted my sdcard as fat32, copied 2 songs no problem
There are now 260 songs and have back lag issues.
Also with video.
Also the whole system blocks for a few seconds.
What i also have is a system freeze for a few minutes.
I used another sdcard of 2gb, have same result
Do you have a lot of apps installed on the internal memory?
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I use stock rom, about 28 downloaded apps, no games.
When i use another rom(full format internal storages), i still have same result.
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Tried running an app like SD Booster?
Set to 2048 or try the others. Might help.
Is your card a class 10? I have 2048 songs plus a bunch of big programs data using Foldermount on my sdhc micro class 10 sandisk and NO lag. I'm running PacMan of Nick's. Very smooth no lag. I do hope my Sandisk holds uphttp://forum.xda-developers.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif
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Is your card a class 10? I have 2048 songs plus a bunch of big programs data using Foldermount on my sdhc micro class 10 sandisk and NO lag. I'm running PacMan of Nick's. Very smooth no lag. I do hope my Sandisk holds up.
I'm using a 64GB MicroSD card inside my tablet as the internal memory and so far I don't notice any lag,even with only 23GB left on it. Maybe re-format the card?

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