Hello I just got a Samsung Galaxy S4 today and I've noticed it has a lot of bloatware it's not the samsung stuff that bothers me it's the others, is there anyway to remove this easily (preferably not rooting) The apps I want rid of are ChatOn, Help, Google, Google+, Messenger+, Talk, Chrome, Play Books, Play Magazines, Play Music, DropBox, Flipboard, Tripadvisor, Amazon MP3, Ebay, O2, O2 Space, Earth and google settings.
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Well you can flash a pre-rooted debloated ROM such as Wanam's ROM, or else you can root your phone and debloat it using Titanium Backup. There is no way to remove the apps without rooting your phone.
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Not sure what phone platform you're coming to Android from, but there's no problem keeping all these applications on your phone and simply not using them. The phone does not have limited space for apps, and these apps don't slow down your phone when you don't use them.
If you're really fussy, you can hide applications you don't use from appearing on your application menu. In your app menu press the menu button and go to "Hide Applications...".
Many of the applications you've mentioned are system apps, which mean they're in the system partition - in other words they are part of the actual firmware. You can't uninstall them without root, but as I mentioned there's no reason to do so. Just don't worry about it.
yes these bloatwares doesnt really bother me much due to high RAM available, unlike the phones i used before like the xperia arc s.
i have been switching back from messaging and high end 3d games with no issue. im still on where i left the game, so i guess theres still more ram available.
The phone has a quad core processor, 2gb of ram, and you're complaining about bloat!? What it can do against you!? It's just an app in the drawer...! Just disable it in apps management. It will be there. But not in the app drawer anymore, and it don't need root. If you tell me is about memory, I'll kick your a** if I ever meet you one day.
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If you do not wish to root go ahead and disable any apps you don't want to use and you are pretty much good to go. The only reason you even need to do that is some apps are called automatically when you start others even though its an app you may not use. Some will also light up and phone home looking for updates. Disabling them will prevent that.
If you do root and delete something that you later want most of them are either available on the market, Google or Samsungs.
Welcome to the dark side.
The first thing I do when I buy a Sammy phone is to root and debloat those ****s they put inside. As if I can't go to google play to install
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Just goto settings ....application manager and disable the application. This will prevent it from running and will remove the icon from your app draw. This will also prevent the app updating from the market which does take up user memory
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The phone has a quad core processor, 2gb of ram, and you're complaining about bloat!? What it can do against you!? It's just an app in the drawer...! Just disable it in apps management. It will be there. But not in the app drawer anymore, and it don't need root. If you tell me is about memory, I'll kick your a** if I ever meet you one day.
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You do realize some of us delete bloatware simply because we don't need it, right?
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Hi,
I retired my G1 in favor of a Nexus One, for the all the reasons you can imagine if you used both devices, and I've moved my contract from the G1 to the N1 I bought without service.
However, my G1 is still fully functional and I do not want to sell it, but would like to give it a new life.
Froyo on the G1 is impressive, but let's face it, the G1 can't deal with it too well. There are too many features, too much stuff for the G1 limited memory, and barely starting an app frequently results in the home app to be quit, making simple operations slower than they would otherwise. Still, in the background, many services run that are now irrelevant: messaging, BT and others.
I would like to use my G1 to stream music at home, from a Wifi connection, using Pandora, last.fm or some other streaming service or podcast app. Just running Pandora brings the device to its knees, probably because it uses too much memory.
I imagine that many G1 owners like me have moved their SIM to some other device, or moved to a different carrier on a different (Android) phone and have no SIM for their G1 anymore. How about a ROM that would not have any of the phone features enabled to save as much memory as possible? Not having to run the GSM modem might also be able to save us some valuable RAM? As is, I haven't found any way to disable permanently SMS & other services that keep coming back, at the very least when I reboot the phone. It would be great to be able to just disable many components I never use, like G-talk, SMS or the phone part of this device that still has so much to offer, and could do so so much better with the memory savings!
If such a ROM exists already, or if there is an app or a hack I could use on top of CyanogenMod 6, I would love to know about it. I've looked for it, I swear, but could not find anything like that.
thanks!
-g
Well you can disable edge and 3g via the powerbar widget. I believe there is an app for root users in market that let's you uninstall stock phone apps like mms, gtalk, and phone.
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the phone becomes even more useful and powerful and effective once it is taken off the "daily driver" list and is no longer being abused as a telephone. You have a microsupercomputer that can do it all....... gps, render, flashdrive. bla bla bla. Think out of the box folks!
I would love to get rid of phone.apk and all that telephony.
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Well you can disable edge and 3g via the powerbar widget. I believe there is an app for root users in market that let's you uninstall stock phone apps like mms, gtalk, and phone.
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Well, since there is no SIM in the "phone", there is no need to disable edge and 3g, but uninstalling the stock apps certainly works great! I've done pretty much what you suggested, and the G1 flies now, as apps can all fit in RAM, and I can even keep the virtual keyboard. I think I've taken down the link to the user's profile at the same time, but that's ok (for now). I just wish I would know a little better what I'm uninstalling when using System App Remover (the naming is not particularly obvious), but it's working for me quite well. Pandora & Last.fm fly and my G1 is giving me all it's got!
thanks!
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I don't see anything easy, or pre-built. is it a requirement to be on 2.2 froyo?
this is a $1 app, System App Remover, find it in the Market. and it may work for you, i've never used it.
It is anoying seeing that icon I didn't ask for in my launcher... Does it persist in 2.3?
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decodecoding said:
It is anoying seeing that icon I didn't ask for in my launcher... Does it persist in 2.3?
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Root and delete
That's the reason i rooted my phone.
Have you ever asked for Market, Gmail and others?
elegos said:
Have you ever asked for Market, Gmail and others?
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Right from the moment I decided I didn't need an Amazon Phone...
if you use launcher pro, you can hide items from app drawer
decodecoding said:
Right from the moment I decided I didn't need an Amazon Phone...
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I mean, Amazon MP3 is just a "google app" like the others. You never asked for the Market, but Google put it in so that you could download other apps. Same of Gmail, Browser, Email, Maps, News & meteo... you may or may not use them, but they are there. You can always adb remount and delete the apps you don't want.
I don't see the problem Amazon mp3 if u don't like don't use but I do think it comes stock on all android phones
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Yeah, pretty sure it isn't crapware. It comes stock with Android doesn't it? You get an app store and a music store.
The funny thing is that carriers usually like to add their own select choice of bloatware to devices, but on my Nexus One, vodafone actually removed the Amazon mp3 bloat!
The European Union is really strict with anti-competitive behaviour, (hence the Windows 'Browser Ballot' screen), so i guess this is the reason why.
OWhatever opinions you have about Amazon MP3, whether bloatware or core gapps, the android os is forever preloading it into memory.
I suppose it's not a big deal, memory management on android is different than windows, but for me... I label all the sys apps I don't care for and every time I install a nightly, I just run titanium backup at first boot and remove all the labeled sys apps.
I originally rooted my phone just to get rid of the bloatware I didn't want on there.
Eventually I went to CM as the update messages were annoying and I couldn't update with all the missing stock stuff.
Now I'm clean and no messages.
I was wondering the same thing. I don't mind the Amazon MP3 app, but I noticed in videos of the NS it appeared the Twitter app weren't included on that phone. I was hoping maybe Google reconsidered the junk they considered standard.
i guess it would be nice for them to let us remove it without root, but i really like the amazon mp3 store being on my phone. i loathe itunes, so i only have the amazon store to buy my music. without it i would be teh suck. so i actually like having the mp3 store on stock android phones.
Well Google uses Amazon as there 'itunes' music store. I assume that Amazon will remain in there until Google setups their own.
I admit that I was annoyed by it too. Although using Root Manager (with Root access) is easy enough to delete. Custom roms usually don't include it either, which was my first choice.
Rumor has it that on Wednesday, along with the in-depth look at Honeycomb, Google will announce Google Music. So maybe they won't include AmazonMP3 when ever they roll out Gingerbread.
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OWhatever opinions you have about Amazon MP3, whether bloatware or core gapps, the android os is forever preloading it into memory.
I suppose it's not a big deal, memory management on android is different than windows, but for me... I label all the sys apps I don't care for and every time I install a nightly, I just run titanium backup at first boot and remove all the labeled sys apps.
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Amazon MP3 had an update in the last few months that only put it in memory if the user started the app.. you're saying it still memory resident even though you don't use it?
Does the Nexus S have the Amazon MP3 app?
Use Titanium Backup to freeze it, problem solved
As mentioned above, your options are:
a) "Freeze" it in Titanium Backup to stop it appearing in stock launcher.
b) If using LauncherPro, use the option to hide unwanted apps
c) Use Titanium Backup to uninstall the app
d) Delete the apk from /system/app/ via an adb shell.
e) Have a cup of concrete and harden up.
Not a big deal.
If you're like me and wanna keep using stock android, just use Titanium to freeze it.
Next update comes up, unfreeze it and update, then re-freeze it.
I did the same with TALKBACK, GOOGLE VOICE (not available in Canada) and NEWS AND WEATHER
booya.
Hey Guys,
So i've have a Samsung Galaxy S4 (I9500) as a secondary device (Primary is iPhone 5 :highfive
I used to love Android but off lately I am starting to hate every device its on like Note 3 (demo for 1 hour) Or HTC One or Note 2 or this S4.
Now I like Google & Android like everyone else, but have started to hate their approach, Google used to stand for "Freedom" of what users want to do but now they are forcing stuff on you and don't give you easier way to get out of it.
e.g. Google Play Movies / TV, Google Play Books < I don't give a crap for these service, I have found no way to remove them yet, even via Rooting I still am unable to remove them. they don't show up in NoBloat Free software.
Then there is Google Location Service, Why does location service / any other service for that matter need to run continuously when the phone is running, this is why I started to like iOS better than android (grant it has its issues) there is no optimization of the usage of resource these background task are taking & there is no way to just stop them from using up system resource unless you disable them. including other services like Dropbox Camera Upload, I don't think its that hard to build a trigger into an app that starts and stops the service when Camera application is launched.
Take a look at the screenshot below, the total amount of RAM used should be only 147MB according to the list of running apps & 123MB in Cached Processes but it is for some reason using 707MB.
Then there is the dependencies of apps, e.g. Google Hangout requiring Google Play services, Google Hangout in itself is a 16 MB app why would they build a dependency to another application and require its presence when the Play Services is only to Update Google Apps & other Apps from Play store?
Then the built-in Google Search, a freaking 30MB application & all that does is use the web search. Really Google?
So comming back to my real question here. I've looked in the sections but there aren't any ROM's that are designed to be used without any of the Google crap.. Is there any way i can run my S4 without these, I don't even want the Play store.
You can flash a deodexed google rom, and then remove the bloatware via a root file explorer of your choice, by deleting the apk files in system/app
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You can flash a deodexed google rom, and then remove the bloatware via a root file explorer of your choice, by deleting the apk files in system/app
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Ok thanks i will install arrow rom and remove the apps I dont need.. and see if the phone is stable.
When it comes to my phone (GS4 SGH-M919) I am extremely serious about what's running or installed and why. There is nothing installed on my phone that I didn't personally install or allow to run. I like a nice clean phone with nothing wasting resources. I'm sure I'm not alone in this way of thinking, so I ask, what are you guys doing to minimize apps and wasted services running? How are you keeping your phone running at it's absolute best?
Uninstall anything that isn't important to the correct operation of the phone.
Freeze or greenify anything that you don't want constantly running in the background (like Google play or Facebook+Facebook messenger).
I'm the same in my mindset I don't like background processes running when I don't have a use for them right there and then. I freeze a few apps with titanium, I have everything that's not related to downloading, playing or streaming music greenified. I always have sync off and run AFwall+ controlling internet access. sometimes if a free app needs net access I'll try hunting for it's ads processes with this http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cn.wq.disableservice
I really wish they'd start allowing users to have more control or total control over their devices without using 3rd party apps. Especially with high-end devices. When are they going to learn that we don't want unneeded apps and functionality ramed down our throats. I guess they still believe that even though we bought the device, it still belongs to them.
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I really wish they'd start allowing users to have more control or total control over their devices without using 3rd party apps. Especially with high-end devices. When are they going to learn that we don't want unneeded apps and functionality ramed down our throats. I guess they still believe that even though we bought the device, it still belongs to them.
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we are not the majority. it's more likely that instant updates arriving from facebook are valued more highly than comprehensive control of our device by most. I read that android device ownership is at 1 billion devices but XDAmembers is just over 7 million.
It's true, most people just care about the phone being able to send a text, but there's no reason all apps and services have to be locked down and not removable. That doesn't atfect the casual user. They choose to lock things down. They choose to make it so uninstalling trivial apps breaks the OS. Short of deleting OS files or drivers, they don't need to make it so my hands are tied.
I'm going to do what I want to do one way or another. All they're doing is pissing people off.
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lol, to be fair the whole trend of a separate Gapps package is all about giving us that choice in the first place. hell I didn't even have gmail in the last version I used.
I use the browser to check my email, and facebook, and xda, and pretty much every other website.
I would even use the browser for YouTube if it weren't for the OGYouTube app which allows me to download the videos.
If anyone is interested in combining the sms, Facebook messenger and WhatsApp apps into one single app, try Disa. It can replace all 3. Unfortunately you have to give up the chatheads of messenger.
I really like the hardware profile of this phone. I am not a fan of all the Samsung apps and services. I know that defeats the purpose of buying a note 20 ultra, but at the same time. I don't think there will be an android phone released this year that will actually compete with this power house of a device. While I am currently in the iPhone camp, I am looking to switch back to android. I have yet to find a phone that makes that permanent and I always just go back to iPhone. I am asking this because that was the main reason I never kept the note 10+, had so many issues with their services and apps that after a few days I said **** it and just switched back.
I know there are some things that can be done via adb to remove and disable certain things on previous samsung devices. The question is how much of samsungs bloat can you actually disable and remove from this phone?
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I really like the hardware profile of this phone. I am not a fan of all the Samsung apps and services. I know that defeats the purpose of buying a note 20 ultra, but at the same time. I don't think there will be an android phone released this year that will actually compete with this power house of a device. While I am currently in the iPhone camp, I am looking to switch back to android. I have yet to find a phone that makes that permanent and I always just go back to iPhone. I am asking this because that was the main reason I never kept the note 10+, had so many issues with their services and apps that after a few days I said **** it and just switched back.
I know there are some things that can be done via adb to remove and disable certain things on previous samsung devices. The question is how much of samsungs bloat can you actually disable and remove from this phone?
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You can disable or uninstall anything you want with adb but once uninstalled you may be up a creek without a paddle. I am proficient with adb but I us Package Disabler Pro from the Play Store. If you disable something important just go back and re-enable it.
I've been using adb since the T-Mobile G1, back then you had to use adb commands just to get a screen shot. Package disabler pro has 3 tabs - bloat, system apps and apps you've installed.
If you read about how to uninstall chinese apps from chinese phones, you will xome across a post which explains how to debloat from adb. Try it if you want to debloat
PD MDM package blocker, buy direct from their website for like $3.99, not it's on Playstore. Uses little battery or resources as it runs at boot in the background.
You can block or unblock apks as you wish and set a widget to turn off/on selected ones.
Playstore is one I do this with as it's always busy in the background. You can block carrier software updates so unwanted firmware isn't jammed down your throat.
I have about 60 blocked apks.
It will block all bloatware and many system apks however not all of Knox and Samsung Pay.
You can kill wittle Bixby, amen. However the cam needs Bixby Vision and Bixby Vision framework to function properly.
Rarely does malfunction but if it does you will need to disable it as system administrator as it will run in Safe Mode too. You can save your blocked list for future reloads or refreshes too.
Without this app my unrooted Samsungs be a complete mess... it's my favorite apk. It gets loaded first.
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PD MDM package blocker, buy direct from their website for like $3.99, not it's on Playstore. Uses little battery or resources as it runs at boot in the background.
You can block or unblock apks as you wish and set a widget to turn off/on selected ones.
Playstore is one I do this with as it's always busy in the background. You can block carrier software updates so unwanted firmware isn't jammed down your throat.
I have about 60 blocked apks.
It will block all bloatware and many system apks however not all of Knox and Samsung Pay.
You can kill wittle Bixby, amen. However the cam needs Bixby Vision and Bixby Vision framework to function properly.
Rarely does malfunction but if it does you will need to disable it as system administrator as it will run in Safe Mode too. You can save your blocked list for future reloads or refreshes too.
Without this app my unrooted Samsungs be a complete mess... it's my favorite apk. It gets loaded first.
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That picture you attached brings me hope!! I ran into a lot of issues when I tried the note 10 will all the different crap it has you set up. Had to factory reset in less than 24 hours of having the phone to fix issues with Samsung services mainly Bixby and smart control services. I honestly like the simple ass turn on iPhone use iPhone setup. I miss having the little things around like changing my icons. I miss tasker the most, that program is stupidly powerful and had some really useful profiles setup.
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That picture you attached brings me hope!! I ran into a lot of issues when I tried the note 10 will all the different crap it has you set up. Had to factory reset in less than 24 hours of having the phone to fix issues with Samsung services mainly Bixby and smart control services. I honestly like the simple ass turn on iPhone use iPhone setup. I miss having the little things around like changing my icons. I miss tasker the most, that program is stupidly powerful and had some really useful profiles setup.
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Samsung has the most customizable non-rooted phones there are. Apple doesn't come close.
It comes at price though as there's a lot to learn.
You need to play with it, a lot.
The Good Lock apps especially One Hand Operation+, custom themes and hundreds of free icon packs are some of the Samsung Android perks.
The 10+ is my first phone to have the memory I need; 1 tb.... hell yeah.
The bad part is unlike Apple there can be conflicts caused by the many different software's and hardware's.
A reload is ok; the next load is always better.
I'm on my 3rd... my SD card is the data/backup drive now. So I won't need to upload near as much the next reload.
I backup all my apks for the next reload to save time and in case they go playstore extinct.
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That picture you attached brings me hope!! I ran into a lot of issues when I tried the note 10 will all the different crap it has you set up. Had to factory reset in less than 24 hours of having the phone to fix issues with Samsung services mainly Bixby and smart control services. I honestly like the simple ass turn on iPhone use iPhone setup. I miss having the little things around like changing my icons. I miss tasker the most, that program is stupidly powerful and had some really useful profiles setup.
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If you like to tinker, you can also use substratum to theme your Samsung now. You need substratum lite and synergy to make it work. Been using it since the Note 8, the current instructions are toward the end of the thread.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/substratum/official-starting-substratum-andromeda-t3798316
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my SD card is the data/backup drive now. So I won't need to upload near as much the next reload.
I backup all my apks for the next reload to save time and in case they go playstore extinct.
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What do you use to backup abs does it Also retain the data? Looking for something similar while also saving the app/data
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What do you use to backup abs does it Also retain the data? Looking for something similar while also saving the app/data
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Apk Export: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...ort&pcampaignid=APPU_1_A_9MX9iMKsnesAWR5Z_YDA
Remember to save a backup copy to your SD card and/or computer in case the OS crashes and burns. It's rare but it can happen especially if your loading new 3rd party apps.
It allows you to backup system apps/updates too.
Occasionally you want the 2nd update to a system app but the 3rd one is buggy and the factory loaded version is inferior to the 2nd update; no problem if you saved the 2nd or whatever version!
Unfortunately if the app doesn't allow you to export the settings data your boned. Apps like Poweramp fortunately do, it take a lot of work to configure it, lol I keep a couple backups.
Also explore Demo Mode. You can stop animations completely to get even more speed as well as other system tweaks. Get Samsung's Sound Assistant to dail in the volume settings.
As for 3rd launchers be warned, those reloads I talked of were caused by a 3rd party launcher.
Put the phone in a boot loop.... twice.
I've tried a couple launchers but none ran as good as the native Samsung one. It's fast, reliable and isn't a power hog.
You're going to have a lot of fun... I'm still learning new things about my 10+ and Pie.
The 20 U is a very capable Android
This is what my stock 10+ looks like.
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Apk Export: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...ort&pcampaignid=APPU_1_A_9MX9iMKsnesAWR5Z_YDA
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Much appreciated. Will download and give it a try.
Have been using Action Launcher since Note 8 and works so far with gestures on the N20U!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.actionlauncher.playstore
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Much appreciated. Will download and give it a try.
Have been using Action Launcher since Note 8 and works so far with gestures on the N20U!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.actionlauncher.playstore
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It's a great app. No ads.
It allows batch processing too.
All too often a new owner and/or update kills a once great app, so...