DISCLAIMER: this is not another generic speculation thread just to throw around guesses about dates for the 4.3 release. yes, i am asking you to speculate, but i have a legitimate reason for posing this question, so please, do not troll and/or flame. thank you.
so my nexus 4 arrived today. i'm eagerly awaiting getting out of work so i can get home and get to playing with it. i absolutely intend to unlock, root and flash a custom recovery/rom/kernel. however, word is that 4.3 is set to release on june 10th (or thereabouts) which is this monday. i'd hate to take the time to do all of the aforementioned things, only to have to reflash stock shortly thereafter in order to grab the OTA.
do you think 4.3 will actually drop this week, and as such, i should wait before going flash crazy?
or i guess an even better question is the one posed in the thread title. if i flash a custom rom now, how long before the rom will update to 4.3? i'm going with PA and probably the latest franco. can't wait to play around with halo!
as soon as the source is out.... they'll be out with custom roms with the very basic stuff like deodexed, superuser and such
no go flash crazy, enjoy it while you can. even when 4.3 is out, it'll take time to backport all the existing customization and features to 4.3
Do this unlock the bootloader flash custom recovery flash SU zip then make a nandroid backup then flash any ROM kernel or mod you want. If the ota comes out then you can just flash your backup and install ota with no problems.
Roms will be updated usually with in a few days after the source is released just because the ota is released doesn't mean the source is out
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I would'nt bother waiting.. since google editions of other phones have been launched it means the wait will be longer, since they will have to all get the update together so as not to advantage one phone over the other... now i hear sony is have a google editon too, the wait will be even longer still.
meangreenie said:
I would'nt bother waiting.. since google editions of other phones have been launched it means the wait will be longer, since they will have to all get the update together so as not to advantage one phone over the other... now i hear sony is have a google editon too, the wait will be even longer still.
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The ota will be out first for nexus devices then it will be released to GE phones.
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spaceman860 said:
Do this unlock the bootloader flash custom recovery flash SU zip then make a nandroid backup then flash any ROM kernel or mod you want. If the ota comes out then you can just flash your backup and install ota with no problems.
Roms will be updated usually with in a few days after the source is released just because the ota is released doesn't mean the source is out
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duh... this is the perfect solution. why didn't i think of that? thanks, dude!
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Just wondering, if I were to flash to a custom rom, such as Thor... then a few months later ICS comes out for our tablets, what would the upgrade process entail?
I'm hesitant to try a custom rom, because when ICS finally comes I don't want there to be extra steps in order to get the update.
Anyone know how difficult/easy this is going to be? Will it involve having to flash back to stock first, then OTA to ICS?
TIA!
davanw said:
Just wondering, if I were to flash to a custom rom, such as Thor... then a few months later ICS comes out for our tablets, what would the upgrade process entail?
I'm hesitant to try a custom rom, because when ICS finally comes I don't want there to be extra steps in order to get the update.
Anyone know how difficult/easy this is going to be? Will it involve having to flash back to stock first, then OTA to ICS?
TIA!
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Not trying to be rude but honestly, if youre afraid of a few extra steps than rooting and android is not for you. I suggest an apple product.
But to answer your question, when official ICS comes out OTA Im sure devs will create custom roms that you can just flash. I mean we already have ICS ports in the works.
Why would you want crappy OTA ICS when you could have a faster, custom rom ICS .
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Not trying to be rude but honestly, if youre afraid of a few extra steps than rooting and android is not for you. I suggest an apple product.
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Don't assume. I already have ICS running on my Galaxy S; I'm sure I've flashed and reflashed android devices just as much as anyone else here. It's not about being afraid. It's about convenience for a device I've come to rely on day-to-day.
Thanks for the post, anyways. But I'd still like to hear what the process would be to go from a custom rom to the offical OTA ICS.
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Don't assume. I already have ICS running on my Galaxy S; I'm sure I've flashed and reflashed android devices just as much as anyone else here. It's not about being afraid. It's about convenience for a device I've come to rely on day-to-day.
Thanks for the post, anyways. But I'd still like to hear what the process would be to go from a custom rom to the offical OTA ICS.
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From what Ive read (search function), you can update from a custom rom but you will lose root.
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Don't assume. I already have ICS running on my Galaxy S; I'm sure I've flashed and reflashed android devices just as much as anyone else here. It's not about being afraid. It's about convenience for a device I've come to rely on day-to-day.
Thanks for the post, anyways. But I'd still like to hear what the process would be to go from a custom rom to the offical OTA ICS.
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If u rely on this day to day, u do NOT want to flash an ICS rom yet. Not even close for day to day use.Stick with what u have and just be patient.
christianpeso said:
If u rely on this day to day, u do NOT want to flash an ICS rom yet. Not even close for day to day use.Stick with what u have and just be patient.
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I agree wait for the kinks to be worked out.
If you rely on this device pretty heavily, and you still want to get ICS when it comes out, I would just recommend flashing a custom ROM now that is known to be pretty stable. like you suggested, Thor's ROM seems to be a great one. It definitely improves the speed of the tablet and I have yet to come across any bugs that would inhibit my everyday use. Then, once developers have worked out a ROM for a relatively stable version of ICS, you shouldn't have any trouble switching to that and not worrying about the OTA updates.
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Don't assume. I already have ICS running on my Galaxy S; I'm sure I've flashed and reflashed android devices just as much as anyone else here. It's not about being afraid. It's about convenience for a device I've come to rely on day-to-day.
Thanks for the post, anyways. But I'd still like to hear what the process would be to go from a custom rom to the offical OTA ICS.
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Well, if you're familiar with all that, then you already know how to flash an OEM ROM and would know you already knew how to do it.
can be a bit of a pain going back to stock ota updates. Depends on availability of your devices localized stock rom.( or being able to backup stock rom first). Took me about 5 days to find the right files and steps to get ota working again. Didnt help that i am a total newbie, the iconia is my first android device never flashed anything before except a pc bios. Do your research first and make sure you can go back instead of getting stuck. Here is a link to get you started http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1155664 another thing when you go back to stock you also go to the back of the line in the update queue as well. I was on 3.2.1 went back to 3.1 got ota updates up to 3.2 but have not recieved 3.2.1 update again yet cheers.
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another thing when you go back to stock you also go to the back of the line in the update queue as well. I was on 3.2.1 went back to 3.1 got ota updates up to 3.2 but have not recieved 3.2.1 update again yet cheers.
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Now THAT is very interesting. Thanks!
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...on-their-nexus-s-phones-dogfooding-has-begun/
Already posted in this topic...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1359413&page=6
But everyone isnt reading that topic, definitely deserved a new thread
So its almost complete
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Just curious, how long do previous iphone models get the latest iOS update when a new iphone comes out? Is it same day or shortly after?
I'm glad to see Google is closing the time between a Nexus device launch and past device getting the latest Android update.
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Just curious, how long do previous iphone models get the latest iOS update when a new iphone comes out? Is it same day or shortly after?
I'm glad to see Google is closing the time between a Nexus device launch and past device getting the latest Android update.
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Older IOS devices get it on the same day, or a couple of days before the new Iphone is released.
For Example IOS5 came out on Oct 12 this year and the Iphone 4S wasn't released until Oct 14..
its easy when they only have one or two other architectures to worry about. with the ns theres at least 3 i think
That's a good idea for an internal test. Can't wait!
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well i tried my little ace up my sleeve. downgraded back to 2.3.4 stock prerooted, to see if i would get and no go lol. it just prompted me for gingerbread 2.3.7 updating. worth a shot i might try this everyday.
Not that it will likely matter for you but even your phone was first in line for the ota up to ics, you would almost certainly get the ota update up to 2.3.7 if you're sprint and 2.3.6 for gsm. prior to ota notification for 4.0
So if you're going to do revert to stock and hope you're first to get the ota thing, make sure it is actually the latest stock.
This just makes me all the more eager to get the ota on my phone.
i have an employee edition i9020....can u please tell me how should i turn my phone to stock to check for OTA
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i have an employee edition i9020....can u please tell me how should i turn my phone to stock to check for OTA
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Somewhere in this thread is the stock rom images for your variant of nexus s.
REF] ALL Nexus S OTA Updates for ALL Variants, Plus Full ROM Packages
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1063664
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alright...so once i flash the stock rom, will it be able to catch ota updates? or do i need to revert stock recovery too? finally what about root? should i unroot it to get the OTA?
And there is no employees edition of the phone. The limited edition phone ( battery cover) is not a "employees edition"
but i knw this one is the early model which was givn to employees
That's true. You will always get the next in line OTA. I remember that's how it was on my Nexus One.
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alright...so once i flash the stock rom, will it be able to catch ota updates? or do i need to revert stock recovery too? finally what about root? should i unroot it to get the OTA?
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You get the OTA only on stock,non-rooted, out-of-the-box rom.
False. It does not matter if you're rooted. Or if custom recovery
Ima wait till its rooted and flashable
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Im getting a Nexus 7 for christmas and im wondering if i decide to root the nexus 7 is it possible to go back to stock as its not amobile phone i cant think it would be to hard because i love the stock jelly bean 4.2 system but im wanting paranoid rom so i can get table ui on the nexus 7 but if i dont like it can i just go back to the stcok jelly bean rom?? (nexus 7 has been bought from offical google website)
Thanks Guys
George
Why would you not like it...its stock plus so many more options.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Well all im thinking is if the a new OTA update comes out or say for example Vinilla co co pops 5.2 comes out how the hell am i surposed to update to that like at the moment i have a htc oxe x and upateing to jelly bean just not even possible im just worryed that i wont be able to keep updateing when the ota's come out thas all im wanting to know if i root it and put custom roms on it i want to make 100% sure i can update it to the latest firmwere when they officaly come out
Check this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35472344#post35472344
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Well all im thinking is if the a new OTA update comes out or say for example Vinilla co co pops 5.2 comes out how the hell am i surposed to update to that like at the moment i have a htc oxe x and upateing to jelly bean just not even possible im just worryed that i wont be able to keep updateing when the ota's come out thas all im wanting to know if i root it and put custom roms on it i want to make 100% sure i can update it to the latest firmwere when they officaly come out
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This doesn't even matter, all the devs have the official ota update before it comes out due to Google dropping the source before they actually push it out.
Way better to root, you'll have the updates faster that way.
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IF you do only one thing, unlock the bootloader before getting lived in on the device. I am rocking stock rooted myself. I am just watching till after cm10.1 hits stable then Ill try some roms out
While I personally prefer stock (with modifications of course) on my N7, it is trivial to revert these devices back to stock, or any other ROM, if you want to. You don't even need to revert and upgrade - you could just download the latest FULL image and flash your device that way, skipping the update step altogether.
But if updates are your only concern, I imagine most of the ROM developers would incorporate the new version into their ROMs very soon after the OTA drops.
BrianDigital said:
IF you do only one thing, unlock the bootloader before getting lived in on the device. I am rocking stock rooted myself. I am just watching till after cm10.1 hits stable then Ill try some roms out
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This.
Even if you don't run a custom rom initially, if the bootloader is unlocked, you can easily flash a custom recovery and rom later. The problem is that if you unlock all the internal storage gets wiped which is not the end of the world if you backup first but it's still a minor inconvenience.
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paranoid is great, but depends what you like. I love it fit the tablet interface and customization options. stock 4.2 had a lot of the same customization built in, so it's awesome as well.
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To me, its custom ROM or bust.
-Sent from Marino's Nexus 7-
Multi ROM
you may want to use Multi ROM.
Root your stock ROM.
Install Custom Recovery to install Multi ROM.
After installing Multi ROM, you may now install other or more ROMs inside.
Also, you have the option to auto-boot from stock ROM or from other ROM.
With that, you may access your stock ROM without removing your custom ROMs and vice versa.
Goodluck!
I unlocked and rooted my nexus 7 so that I could use otg cable---> a flash drive … I have extra storage now. Just download an app called stick mount an your all set...
Rooting should be the first thing you should do. As others said you can keep it stock if you want. Only difference is you get to install apps like titanium backup and file managers like root explorer. You also will have a custom recovery so you can backup your latest STABLE and smooth ROM so you can revert back if you ever run into trouble like the 4.2 OTA debacle.
As far as any maintenance and fixing issues... having root makes it a breeze as factory resets just mean in 10 minutes you are back in businesses, you just need redo your screens.
I took the plunge and after rooting I installed this: [EXPERIMENTAL] MultiROM v3
Now I'm running stock along with a few other ROMS, including Ubuntu.
Hey,
I have a question regarding rooting and upgrading.
Before i root, I would like to know if I do root, how will I upgrade to KLP when it is released for nexus 10?
Do i have to restore?
It depends on the situation. If you root, using a backup app like carbon or titanium backup will ensure anytime you update or change a rom you keep all your goodies. If your root only and don't change your rom you will get the OTA and it will lose root (easy to fix) and your stuff will stay.
Changing your rom is a different story though
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So on stock...
altimax98 said:
It depends on the situation. If you root, using a backup app like carbon or titanium backup will ensure anytime you update or change a rom you keep all your goodies. If your root only and don't change your rom you will get the OTA and it will lose root (easy to fix) and your stuff will stay.
Changing your rom is a different story though
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I'm on stock, but when klp releases, can i just update ? Would jb> klp be too big of a change that a lot of bugs may arise?
For example, I used to have a rooted nook color, it updated and I got unrooted... There ended up being bugs even after I rerooted it...
I am just wondering is updating then rerooting the correct method...
add12364 said:
I'm on stock, but when klp releases, can i just update ? Would jb> klp be too big of a change that a lot of bugs may arise?
For example, I used to have a rooted nook color, it updated and I got unrooted... There ended up being bugs even after I rerooted it...
I am just wondering is updating then rerooting the correct method...
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It's stock Google software. I had a Nook Color as well and they tried to block root on it anyway they could. There is no knowing if the upgrade to KLP will be easy (history tells us it will be) and root should be on board almost immediately after release, at the very worst you would have to reroot but that is nothing.
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altimax98 said:
It's stock Google software. I had a Nook Color as well and they tried to block root on it anyway they could. There is no knowing if the upgrade to KLP will be easy (history tells us it will be) and root should be on board almost immediately after release, at the very worst you would have to reroot but that is nothing.
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Thanks!
Other question in the same vein:
I have a rooted n10, but I changed the kernel. Will I have to revert to update?
Probably yes, but worth a shot first, atthe kernel question. I'm just going to wait utnil a AOKP KLP comes out, myself.
About Key Lime Pie I read somewhere that KLP will ne only available on quad core devices..
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When you are rooted there is no point to updating to a new Android version via OTA. You simply go from the ROM you are on, to installing a new version of the same ROM based on the new Android version. Developers like to keep their ROM updated, so usually you will see all the most popular ROMs updated to the latest and greatest version of Android within a day.
If you try to do OTA then you usually lose root, you often have to re-lock your bootloader, you have ton verify you are on the stock rom AND kernel, and then still hope you are "stock enough" to have the update be successful. That is just way too much work and not worth it at all when the alternative is to just flash a new version of a ROM and be done with it.
EniGmA1987 said:
When you are rooted there is no point to updating to a new Android version via OTA. You simply go from the ROM you are on, to installing a new version of the same ROM based on the new Android version. Developers like to keep their ROM updated, so usually you will see all the most popular ROMs updated to the latest and greatest version of Android within a day.
If you try to do OTA then you usually lose root, you often have to re-lock your bootloader, you have ton verify you are on the stock rom AND kernel, and then still hope you are "stock enough" to have the update be successful. That is just way too much work and not worth it at all when the alternative is to just flash a new version of a ROM and be done with it.
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It depends if you are stock rooted or on a custom rom...
If you are stock rooted but have Twrp you could do the OTA reboot to recovery and root checker will install super SU for you
If you don't have Twrp... Nexus devices are easy to root anyways
Or use an OTA root keeper app
I'm really surprised for this. On N5, we had m preview roms for every single preview release days after the release, which were just factory images turned into flashable roms, and they worked fine with multirom also.
For N5x, we don't have any of those apparently, and there doesn't seem also to be demand for it. We have unofficial multirom thanks to jolla and others, and yet there is no movement for more roms or profit for it.
This subforum is, for this being a Nexus, way more empty that for any other Nexus phone .
What? There are developer roms available here and you can opt-in to the beta here if you want to use OTA instead of flashing.
link6155 said:
What? There are developer roms available here and you can opt-in to the beta here if you want to use OTA instead of flashing.
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I think he means a flashable zip for TWRP
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I'm really surprised for this. On N5, we had m preview roms for every single preview release days after the release, which were just factory images turned into flashable roms, and they worked fine with multirom also.
For N5x, we don't have any of those apparently, and there doesn't seem also to be demand for it. We have unofficial multirom thanks to jolla and others, and yet there is no movement for more roms or profit for it.
This subforum is, for this being a Nexus, way more empty that for any other Nexus phone .
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Neither 5X or 6P has N Preview roms. Not sure why the change but it is what it is.
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PiousInquisitor said:
Dont relock your bootloader. Because 1. You cant flash the factory images with it locked and 2. If the OTA fails see reason 1.
You aren't going to be on N for that long. There are simply too many bugs right now. So, when you are annoyed you are going to have to wait a day for the MM OTA (if you sign up for OTAs) or you are going to flash the MM images which require an unlocked bootloader. If you sign up for the OTAs, request the MM OTA, wait for it to come, take it and then want to go back to a custom ROM or root or whatever, you are going to need an unlocked bootloader.
Unless you plan on being on the stock ROM (MM or N, unrooted) for the foreseeable future, you dont want to lock that bootloader.
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Yes if is there a way that we can just flash N and then if we want to go back and restore our custom ROMs without needing to use a stock recovery that would be awesome!! That would make things so much easier. Lol Looking forward to seeing that hopefully soon.
I agree with the OP. There are so many awesome devs who shred stock OTAs and make slim, light ROMs which are flashable via custom recoveries. I wish they did the same for N Developer Preview too.
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I agree with the OP. There are so many awesome devs who shred stock OTAs and make slim, light ROMs which are flashable via custom recoveries. I wish they did the same for N Developer Preview too.
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+1
gururoop said:
I agree with the OP. There are so many awesome devs who shred stock OTAs and make slim, light ROMs which are flashable via custom recoveries. I wish they did the same for N Developer Preview too.
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That would be great. Wish I had the know how.
So I took the plunge and installed it. So far so good. Hopefully tomorrow or the next few days when they update the next release will even be greater.
Me too waiting for a striped down custom version of N ROM which can run side by side with M without the need of different vendor images.
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