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Hello there. I finally got me this wonderful tablet...I wanted something small, well built, and possibly with tegra 3, mainly for the gaming exclusives that Tegra means.
I didn't buy the tablet for gaming of course, but it is something I like in general. The first thing I tried has been Epic Citadel. The benchmark gave me solid 55fps average in high quality.
Then I tried a game that didn't really run well on my Galaxy Note 1: NOVA3 from gameloft.
I know Gameloft games are not really well programmed, at least not as solid as EA products (dead space, ME infiltrator and NFS most wanted to say a few)....I played most of them on my old Desire HD, and then on the galaxy note. Some of them would not run well on the Note. I am someone that feels a big difference between 30fps and 60fps...that's why I play on PC. I don't need 60 fps on a mobile game of course, the main point of my thread is:
how can a game like NOVA 3 stutter that way on the nexus 7? From a quad core tegra 3 processor I was expecting something much different....it runs the same way it runs on the galaxy note, PLUS it has no depth of field. I watched the introduction, on the galaxy note the soldier was totally sharp, and the background was out of focus. On the nexus 7 somehow this feature is disabled (of course no way to change it in the options).
Anyway, this is not what I was expecting from such a powerful device. I know game could have been programmed better (not even sure if it uses all the 4 cores).....but what is your opinion?
I don't need to play NOVA3 this bad...it is just a curiosity, something that I would rather have explained to me. I am also quite sure the same game would run flawless on an iphone....never seen it though, i just suppose.
I am also aware of that kind of 'lag fix', which is anyway not recommended. I am on stock rom with root permission.
YOU CAN'T
GAMELOFT CAN
optimization is bad,veeeery bad ;(
You can't fix it,every game from gameloft on Tegra 3 have 15fps ;(
My i9505 stutters in all games, literally all. Even lighter ones like subway surfers, vector, mini motor racing. It drops a couple of frames randomly every few seconds, its 60 but then drops to 57 or 53 and then immediately goes back up.
Heavier games like Vice City, San Andreas, NFS Most Wanted, Iron Man 3, Dead Trigger, Dead Trigger 2, Shadowgun Dead Zone lag and stutter like hell.
NFS MW gets from 25 to 35 fps, GTA VC goes over 30 but often even drops slightly below 20. GTA SA gets 30 max with it stuttering and dropping to around 20. Dead Trigger 2 and Shadowgun DZ get 30 fps but every couple of seconds it suddenly drops to like 28/25/23 and then quickly goes up. Modern Combat 4 goes below 30 as well.
Anyone else with this problem? Or it's just me? Any solutions?
I'm on 4.3 (XXUEMKE), got it out of the box.
TheBeast said:
My i9505 lags in all games, literally all. Even lighter ones like subway surfers, vector, mini motor racing. It drops a couple of frames randomly every few seconds, its 60 but then drops to 57 or 53 and then immediately goes back up.
Heavier games like Vice City, San Andreas, NFS Most Wanted, Iron Man 3, Dead Trigger, Dead Trigger 2, Shadowgun Dead Zone lag and stutter like hell.
NFS MW gets from 25 to 35 fps, GTA VC goes over 30 but often even drops slightly below 20. GTA SA gets 30 max with it stuttering and dropping to around 20. Dead Trigger 2 and Shadowgun DZ get 30 fps but every couple of seconds it suddenly drops to like 28/25/23 and then quickly goes up. Modern Combat 4 goes below 30 as well.
Anyone else with this problem? Or it's just me? Any solutions?
I'm on 4.3, got it out of the box.
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What firmware do you have? Even if you are on 4.3, you should check for updates, because for me, it really made a difference in gaming experience.
popab said:
What firmware do you have? Even if you are on 4.3, you should check for updates, because for me, it really made a difference in gaming experience.
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XXUEMKE
So you're saying I should try another 4.3 firmware?
Wow no one plays games here.
TheBeast said:
Wow no one plays games here.
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Is your phone rooted? Can you check your phone's clock speeds for GPU and CPU?
I wouldn't say I am having the same problems but DT2 simply won't budge from 35fps on any setting except ultra, which has its frame rate cap go up to 60. Weird.
Dabreaker9 said:
Is your phone rooted? Can you check your phone's clock speeds for GPU and CPU?
I wouldn't say I am having the same problems but DT2 simply won't budge from 35fps on any setting except ultra, which has its frame rate cap go up to 60. Weird.
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Yea cpu/gpu are ok, running at 1890/450, I even tried overclocking them, but same fps :S
And no matter what settings I set exactly the same fps and stutters. I don't get it. Haven't seen more than 30 fps in any game except in games like Angry Birds and Vector.
TheBeast said:
Yea cpu/gpu are ok, running at 1890/450, I even tried overclocking them, but same fps :S
And no matter what settings I set exactly the same fps and stutters. I don't get it. Haven't seen more than 30 fps in any game except in games like Angry Birds and Vector.
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... Are you willing to wipe your phone? It might be worth a try.
Alternatively, see if you can reinstall the games (although I doubt that will work).
I don't have 4.3 (running 4.2.2), so I wouldn't know a workaround for your firmware. :/
I have a feeling its about optimization from the developers of the games and not our hardware throttling. Just like how subway surfers will never get 60fps even on the iPhone 5s but the 5s flies with other games. I honestly believe our S4 is capable of running games like GTA at 60fps just fine.
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Hazerm said:
I have a feeling its about optimization from the developers of the games and not our hardware throttling. Just like how subway surfers will never get 60fps even on the iPhone 5s but the 5s flies with other games. I honestly believe our S4 is capable of running games like GTA at 60fps just fine.
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Yea that seems to be the problem. That is the only thing that could explain the same exact stutters and low fps no matter which rom, frequency, settings you use. I guess I should've gone with I9500, looks like it's the only one getting games optimized for when it comes to s4.
any fixes for this?
TheBeast said:
Yea that seems to be the problem. That is the only thing that could explain the same exact stutters and low fps no matter which rom, frequency, settings you use. I guess I should've gone with I9500, looks like it's the only one getting games optimized for when it comes to s4.
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sounds stupid but is power saving mode enabled?
SamzWorldOfMusic said:
sounds stupid but is power saving mode enabled?
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Haha nope I ain't that dumb :laugh:
TheBeast said:
Haha nope I ain't that dumb :laugh:
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lol just checking. It has happend before
I am extremely frustrated with this issue!
I am coming from an S3 and I never had any lag problems with any games! On the i9505, with most games, even less-demanding ones such as PvZ2, after 5 minutes of playing, it starts lagging like hell. Also the phone gets really really hot in the upper part.
I have KT kernel and the KTweaker app, but don't know what exactly to change. Can someone please tell me some settings for this?
why gs4 prevent lag during exection
Galaxy S4 always lag during playing all type of games because of overclocking. I notice Htc one is the same specs interms of cpu/gpu but it is totaly perfect with zero lag so the reason is the gs4 overclock to the speed of 1.9 instead 1.7 like HTC one.
Hi please refer on this thread. It might help you. I had the same issue until it was resolved. ?☺ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2773601
[Q] i9505 lagging on heavy games
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I just tried playing Hearthstone with my S7 Edge and the lag is horrible. The game is almost unplayable. Not to mention, the game runs in some ultra high saturation settings. This game ran faster on my S5 and a lot faster on my 6S+.
Is anyone experiencing lag in any other games?
jrwingate6 said:
I just tried playing Hearthstone with my S7 Edge and the lag is horrible. The game is almost unplayable. Not to mention, the game runs in some ultra high saturation settings. This game ran faster on my S5 and a lot faster on my 6S+.
Is anyone experiencing lag in any other games?
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Make sure you dont have power save activated in game launcher
Gurule92 said:
Make sure you dont have power save activated in game launcher
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Thanks for the advise but I don't even have Game Launcher activated.
i'm having the same issue with pinball arcade, like if there' some type of game lag. it's unfortunate because its the only game app i play lol. now it's useless unless i enjoy lag pinball. very weird, hopefully samsung can fix this or the app creators.
Runs very Smooth with my s7 edge. But i have the exynos chip, maybe you have the snapdragon...
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Runs really choppy SS well. I have an iPhone 6s plus and it's not even close. I figured new Samsung could hang
Runs smooth on my s7 exynos version. Does the lag appear immediately or after a while as when I do play on my phone it's usually for no more than 30 min at a time.
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Galaxy S7 Edge, Exynos Polish retail presales. I got lags on everything. Touchwiz, chrome, facebook, games, videos (however only in software-decoded). If a video player is using hardware acceleration, then it's fine. html5 embedded videos run (with individual pixels flashing with different colors), but fail when I try to change the viewing mode to horizontal, try to run fullscreen or skip few seconds of the video. I see same flashing pixels when browsing instagram pictures. The most irritating is VR mode. Flashing pixels all the time, a 10-20 second freeze every other minute in any app, however, when running 360 videos, most of them run smoothly without a lag. I ran Antutu benchmarks, but the score was ~101K. Is that the general lag some people are experiencing and hope Samsung will release patches, or should I get my phone serviced? Is there a way to run maintenance tests to check what's wrong with it?
Just to be clear, I have the SS version and the phone did not lag anywhere else. It was only in games. I fixed it though.
Those who are getting unplayable lag while in games you can download "Package Remover Pro" and remove "Game Services" and "Gamepad Services".
Now my games finally don't lag and they look much better.
jrwingate6 said:
Just to be clear, I have the SS version and the phone did not lag anywhere else. It was only in games. I fixed it though.
Those who are getting unplayable lag while in games you can download "Package Remover Pro" and remove "Game Services" and "Gamepad Services".
Now my games finally don't lag and they look much better.
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Let me give that a try. I will post results
I have a Snapdragon 820 S7E, and Hearthstone worked perfectly for me for an hour yesterday. No issues so far.
I don't have any lag issues but disabling the 2 gaming packages fixed the over saturation, thanks! (On a Exynos model btw)
I'm getting lag even in Monument Valley on my S7 Edge Exynos version and no lag at all on my Huawei Mate 8.. I'll try disabling those two game packages.
Hmm this seems to trigger Knox? If so I don't want to do it.
Still having gaming lag issues even with package Disabler. Need advice otherwise I'm going back to my 6S plus
Yea, I am also still getting lag in Hearthstone. I can't believe Samsung would release such a half baked phone. The most powerful mobile GPU around and they manage to screw it up.
I don't get lag on my SD 820 Edge when playing Hearthstone... I do however get force closes. I have to then rush to get back logged in before I lose my "turn". Anyway, it's been pretty disappointing.
I get lag angry birds 2 and tekken nothing os playable. That relates to something sammy changed in android 6. As note 5 have same issue on android 6 but not on 5.1.1.
I am playing Hearthstone on my Exynos S7 Edge for a few weeks now.The game runs pretty smooth while dropping frames time to time but when I activate Power Saving mode it doesn't feel like it is 30 fps.
I play on computer all the time at 30 fps and it is great.
When I use the Game Tuner just to lower the resolution and texture quality,FPS also drops for some reason.
Hmmm. mine does drop frames every now and then but hearthstone doesn't have major lags. I'm on exynos.
I only play for 1 or two battles in a row. maybe that's the reason? I haven't played a lot. only a little
Hey just wanted to know if anyone was experiencing lag in games. I turned off all game options in package disabler pro and it fixed the brightness issue but still having FPS issues. I play Order and Chaos 2 and on my Note 5 it performs beautiful, on this phone it's laggy and choppy. I can't figure out if it's a graphic issue, optimization issue, or a network issue with this phone. Please any input is greately appreciated!
Probably a Gameloft issue. I always loved Order and Chaos but their device support is crazy. The SD 820 should be a best. But even on the LG G4 with the 808 last gen, tons of games had issues playing. I know Mortal Kombat was one that was so unplayable until several updates later. On the G4 there was a Game Optimizer or something in battery settings if I remember.
Also check Samsungs new Gameplay mode or whatever it's called. It's an overlay that could be causing slowdowns.
I'm totally getting the same vibe from the gaming performance of this phone. A good example is the recently released Miitomo game. On my Nexus 6P and my boyfriends Droid Turbo, the game runs smoothly. However, on my S7 Edge it stutters and lags in a way that resembles missing animations or frames. It's pretty noticeable and it does not go away no matter what I do. I uploaded a video of this on YouTube and plan on showing a couple more games and apps that similar performance dips when it comes to graphics...
Smacky cars is the same way.
TBH it looks like a frame rate limiter.
It appears to be pumping like a PC game with a 60Hz refresh display and a GPU that can render 300+ FPS and is locked at 60Hz. It will jump like that. The hardware is probably too fast in all actuality. If it could be run without such a limit it would probably scream like a girl running from a gorilla.
I've read people that say that G6 lags in games big time. Is it so? Is it not buy if I would want to have some fun in-between moments?
Billy Madison said:
I've read people that say that G6 lags in games big time. Is it so? Is it not buy if I would want to have some fun in-between moments?
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Did those said people say which games? Because I've been using my LG G6 for games too and haven't seen any lag what so ever. And I've played alot of graphic intensive games too as well as casual stuff
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Mchi5 said:
people say which games?
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Yes
namely zombie tsunami, goo saga, red ball evolved & lapsum
Billy Madison said:
Yes
namely zombie tsunami, goo saga, red ball evolved & lapsum
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Sorry never played those. But sports games like NBA 2k17, Fifa and Real Racing 3, which are all very graphic intensive plays with no lag
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Nope. No lag here either and i play some pretty intensive games.
Considering the games you listed are all just simple 2D games it should run them easy and battery is gonna last a long time.
No lag on: DB Dokkan Battle, Fire Emblem: Heroes, Summoner Wars, Pokémon Go and Tap Titans 2
WstrKuNoužč said:
Considering the games you listed are all just simple 2D games it should run them easy and battery is gonna last a long time.
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What if those games just can't see 18:9 and are hardcoded to run in 1280x720? And when stretched they stutter somehow?
another example is RR3 which throttles to 18fps often which is way too low for such powerful 821
Billy Madison said:
What if those games just can't see 18:9 and are hardcoded to run in 1280x720? And when stretched they stutter somehow?
another example is RR3 which throttles to 18fps often which is way too low for such powerful 821
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Well, you basically choose in which aspect ratio you wanna play games that don't support 18:9.
You can choose the usual default format 16:9 (with black left and right borders), optimized format 16.7:9 (with small left and right black borders) or 18:9 (fullscreen). It basically crops the games window to your liking. Really easy to set up and works like a charm.
Most games don't support 18:9 yet, only some new ones do, but i play pretty much all of them in 18:9 np. Performance is the same in either of those ratios, i'm pretty sure, as it only crops the image.
If a game is hard-coded to lower resolution then i'm pretty sure it plays at that resolution and doesn't up-sample. I've played a cpl of games hard-coded to 1080p and they actually still looked great despite running on a 1440p screen. You can still choose aspect ratio tho.
I've had no issues. So far I've played Pokeymanz Go, Magikrap Jump, Devil Twins, Sailor Drops, TriggerKnight, Dungeon Vilage, Game Dev Story, Ninja Village, Plague Inc, Infectonator, Tales of Link with no issues. The only time I've managed to make this thing stutter is when streaming music over BT and the phone switches back and forth between wifi and mobile data a couple times (this happens on my way home in the afternoon. It picks up my 802.11ac, then I whip around a corner and it drops it, whip back and it picks it back up).
I've played King's Raid on lg g6 and its lag pretty bad, i did change resolution , battery saver and graphic quality but still lag big time.
Can any of u guys give it a try?
But other similar games run very smooth which is strange.
Thx
teruhiko666 said:
I've played King's Raid on lg g6 and its lag pretty bad, i did change resolution , battery saver and graphic quality but still lag big time.
Can any of u guys give it a try?
But other similar games run very smooth which is strange.
Thx
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That's probably not weird considering it won't even install for me through Google Play. It's says it's not compatible with my phone.
Doesn't look like a demanding game so it's probably just not optimized.
They claim that in Mushroom Wars Space and Mushroom Wars 2 G6 is especially lagging. Could anyone prove this claim?
What about framed/2? they say G6 is snail laggish in this
teruhiko666 said:
I've played King's Raid on lg g6 and its lag pretty bad, i did change resolution , battery saver and graphic quality but still lag big time.
Can any of u guys give it a try?
But other similar games run very smooth which is strange.
Thx
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I play this game on my LG G6 and I can confirm that it does lag like CRAZY! Especially BD Raid DAMN!!! Feels like its gonna blow. But everything else is super smooth. Weird thing is my Note7 Exynos 8890 runs Kings Raid on max settings super smooth.
I have zero lags. But I have my G6 pretty much debloated and I always disable the, "Game Battery Saver" option. I think that option makes a difference.
But I mostly only play racing games and COD games.
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It seems it has problem with 2D games. My wife's G6 lags like crazy in Angry birds pop. I tried to force GPU rendering in developer settings, but didn't help. I even lowered game resolution in battery settings
No lag at all playing pes2018
Yes, it does lag, but only when charging and playing at full resolution. It also only charges at about 1000 miliamps when screen is on. Not a huge deal for me, but I do hope oreo update will fix this.
Mine has this weird thing where a game will be super smooth for about 5 seconds but goes choppy, then I have to pause and resume for it to go back to smooth for another 5s.
This mainly happens for me in RR3, Plague Inc, Beast Quest and a few others.
Must be a software issue as it's obviously capable enough hardware. Hope Oreo fixes this!
Can't deal with low frame rates!!
Anyone else had this issue?
For me every game is working quite well except Star Wars Galaxy of Heroes. Which I really like so it's quite annoying.