Samsung S4 slower than S3 - Lagging issues - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm experiencing some serious lag with my Bell Mobility samsung s4 at times. For example:
- sometimes when I go to open the phone application, the screen will go black for literally 2-3 seconds before the phone screen will actually appear, same applies to gallery, contacts, messaging
- when I open my folders the animation of the app icon scatterings out is sometimes very choppy and slow to load as well
- on the lock screen, the time sometimes lags for about 2-3 seconds before updating to the most recent time
I'm actually running less apps than I did on my S3, I only have one page with no widgets on it other than a HTC sense clock widget, I've also got a 16gb expandable sd card in their. I have most of the functions off with the exception of air view, aire gesture and power saving.
Anyone have any ideas as to why my s4 is running so slow?

datis said:
I'm experiencing some serious lag with my Bell Mobility samsung s4 at times. For example:
- sometimes when I go to open the phone application, the screen will go black for literally 2-3 seconds before the phone screen will actually appear, same applies to gallery, contacts, messaging
- when I open my folders the animation of the app icon scatterings out is sometimes very choppy and slow to load as well
- on the lock screen, the time sometimes lags for about 2-3 seconds before updating to the most recent time
I'm actually running less apps than I did on my S3, I only have one page with no widgets on it other than a HTC sense clock widget, I've also got a 16gb expandable sd card in their. I have most of the functions off with the exception of air view, aire gesture and power saving.
Anyone have any ideas as to why my s4 is running so slow?
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Well its should not create this much of issue try finding if any partticular app is causing any issue
1,
U can try clearing all apps from task manger and also clear ram and reboot most issue should be solved
2,
check if there is any update on ur cell from about device - software update
3, if nothing works try a factory reset completly

I also had those shamy lags, and then I installed Nova Launcher... Amazing how Samsung can cripple such a powerful device with such a crappy interface !

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Weather Animation Lag

Is any body else experiencing lag for their weather animation on the Home tab? I don't have this problem on my Weather tab, it looks great. Only when in my home tab, it looks like it runs smooth for half the time, then it gets really chopppy and slow.
I've already tried messing with my shortcuts, and removing my sd card, but those aren't the problems. I also have BSB Tweaks installed, and tried disabling the power saver option, but that didn't do anything either.
Mine does that as well sometimes, not always.
You could try disabling "V-Sync" on the device. Or instead of having the HTC Sense userinterface allocate resources "as needed", you could increase the minimum and maximum amount of resources it is always guaranteed to be utilizing at any given time.
Try searching the forums for those minor registry tweaks and I'm sure you won't be disappointed.
Just did a hard reset, that seemed to do the trick. Also using a 8GB class 6 SD card now, with not too much performance increase. May go back to the stock 16GB class 2 card for more storage.
check ur task manager.
you could be using up too much memory. if you have applications running in the background when the home screen weather animation is loading it could slow it down.
i noticed this with my touch pro 2 as well.
I have noticed the HD2 is lagging terrible when The wifi is trying to connect or the data connection changes. When the signal changes it even lags the device. I am not sure if this is a radio problem or what because all roms so far have this issue
Any updates on this issue?
I've discovered that when I hard reset my HD2, it turns out pretty nice. No lag at all, clouds and screenwipers really smooth =)
But then the breaking point, I install the cookie's tabs, it installs .net framework, immediately the weather animations start to lag..
I don't wanna uninstall the cookies tab (and .net) because I'm using pretty much every application from those quick links. the winter is coming, I wanna enable the weather animations, but I can't do it right now because it's too irritating and slowing the quick link screen changes. they become laggy too.
oops.. just came here with google search and didn't notice that its t-mobile thread. hope it's not a problem.
So far,
I've done every performance trick mention in these forums, but nothing has changed.
This thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=629388
has specific tweaks supposed to increase the performance but no, nothing has changed. VSync is disabled, SENSE memory is increased, but still lagging in the weather application.
Should I just switch to a custom ROM? Makes me think that this'll not solve it since it was running just fine before .net 3.5 as I mentioned before.
Weather is annoying me now because it refuses to update. When I click "update now", the little arrow moves in a circle for a few minutes then nothing changes. It's been doing this since I had my stock 2.13 ROM...I did a Task 29, hard reset, formatted my class 6 SD card, and installed Spike's ROM and it still does the same damn thing...
If I disable phone altogether and turn on WiFi, it will update.
How can I just disable Weather altogether on my home screen without disabling Sense?
Oh yeah, and the stuttering does seem to be related to the data connection trying to sync after coming out of sleep...
You could try installing Cookies Home Tab and using the editor to turn off the animations all together. As far as I know you can't "uninstall" weather from the home tab, but you can turn the animations off and just make it a static image.
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Weather is annoying me now because it refuses to update. When I click "update now", the little arrow moves in a circle for a few minutes then nothing changes. It's been doing this since I had my stock 2.13 ROM...I did a Task 29, hard reset, formatted my class 6 SD card, and installed Spike's ROM and it still does the same damn thing...
If I disable phone altogether and turn on WiFi, it will update.
How can I just disable Weather altogether on my home screen without disabling Sense?
Oh yeah, and the stuttering does seem to be related to the data connection trying to sync after coming out of sleep...
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Slide to the weather tab tap menu/settings and uncheck update.
hi,
I just figure out the BSB tweaks make animation lag, (since Im new user to HD2) I notice it after installation yesterday, right know after uninstalling the bsb tweak, the cloud motion is not lag anymore....
im on duttylacreme
That annoyed the crap out of me also. When I flashed a new rom it smoothed out. I get stutters when I turn the screen on and it immediately does a check to update the weather, but every other time it's smooth. I'm on miri and dinik's anastasia one from the non tmous roms page. It also fixed any sms lag I had too, if you're experiencing that.
So there's no way to remove the weather app from the phone?
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So there's no way to remove the weather app from the phone?
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I suppose if you're using cookies home editor you could choose a different weather app to associate with the weather tab of sense and that would not update unless you chose it manually.
you do not need to install or tweak anything to turn the animation from the home screen off, simply select animated wallpaper and choose any wallpaper you want from your sd card or device just as if you were choosing a weather wallpaper

touch scrolling

Hi,
I noticed that there is a slight delay when I scroll down a web page or the application menu. I have the impression that the display isn't as fluid as the iPhone to my girlfriend. Another comparaison than i saw, is on the locking screen, when i unlock the phone the little triangle isn't really smooth if i compare to the iphone. It's like if the refresh rate of the screen was too low.. I wanna know if i'm the only one to have this issue..
X10 for the win!
iPhone runs only one app at a time.
while this phone can run tens of apps.
maybe too many apps are running in your background
try using 'Advanced task killer' to kill all unused apps.
my phone runs as fast as iphone for the features u mentioned..no lagging whatsoever.
I'm using this app, that's not a lag like if the phone had too many apps running..
I installed hardware info app on the market and I have noticed something strange. Under Display, Size=320x569. The screen resolution is not supposed to be 480x854 ?
In others words, when I scroll down/up/right/left (anywhere) the phone has a little delay to scroll...
The scrolling on browser was smooth. Maybe its a heavy page.
About the lockscreen its natural IMO because if we make our phone sleep/standy or screen off. The apps that runs lockscreen etc is idle and like also turn off to make battery life efficient. So its natural that the lockscreen is too lag a bit moment as it refreshes from being idle to being used. It begins loading up

home screen lag!

Im gettin quite abit of lag wen scrolling through the pages on the homescreen.. I do have a few widgets but I'm coming from having the htc incredible s which had much more widgets and no lag. Does anyone else have this problem? And is there anything I can do to stop it without removing everything.
Hmmm no lag here, all I can say is try a factory reset then place all the widgets down again and see if that helps.
What homescreen laucher are you using?
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Stock touchwiz
I've filled up 4 pages full of widgets/apps and I get no lag whatsoever. Not sure what's happening with yours tbh.
BullSh!T. Theres absolutely no lag with the homescreen. Your lag is called user error
Don't mean to stray off the sub but how is ur battery life considering ur 4 pages full.? Jus mine sucks an I was wondeing if its down to that
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Don't mean to stray off the sub but how is ur battery life considering ur 4 pages full.? Jus mine sucks an I was wondeing if its down to that
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When I was playing with my new toy like crazy I was getting a day in a half. I check 10 webpages hourly, tons of emails, text, usually 30mins of calls, start my music thru headphones around 9am till 5pm, checking xda app hourly, and other random things.
Its 8:18pm and im at 37%. Ive downloaded 2 torrents thru wifi, handled business thru google voice(mostly text) since ive been home. My vibrant would usually die around 5pm while at work. Im a extremely heavy user and im getting great battery life.
Ive just checked my phone. 3g/H+ stays on all day, auto sync is off, brightness turned 100%, all emails sync hourly thru samsung email app.
Ur so lucky, I jus can't get to the bottom of it. Did u charge ur battery all da way at the start an do u let it die then recharge it off? Give me some pointers. I'm hoping its jus not a faulty phone. I mite buy a new bat
What is your battery usage like? Get us a screenshot
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i too have the lag actually. I find that the enlarged accuweather widget that came with the device to be the main culprit, not sure what else. I've switched to launcherpro for the time being.
I can confirm that the stock accuweather widget makes a little lag. Changed to Beautiful Weather and the lag was gone.
****ty apps and widgets make even the best of the smartphones lag.
I can confirm there is lag too....once in a while. The lag is most easily reproducible if you slowly change from one home-screen to another. Drag your finger slowly rather than do the typical swipe-and-release action.
Sometimes it is noticeable lag, but to me it is more like skipping a frame or two during UI rendering.
i notice this lag too, do anyone else notices it? like elythor stated, you can see it well if you slowly change screens, like it skips a few frames, it is not 100% fluid.
5pages widgets one full screen caledar page. Ob i know this is ovious to some but try extending the refresh hours for your widgets. E.g weather 3 hours. Etc
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I had no lag on KE2. I upgraded KE7 on top of it and I started to notice some lag. I formatted my SD card and internal storage and then did a hard reset. The lag went away.
i am on ke7 and i have a lag when i go the the home screen. be it using the home button or just pressing back until i get there.
it goes back to any other screen very smoothly, but when it goes back to the home screen, there is about 3 seconds lag.
i have 5 homescreens, using stock touchwiz
Any of you guys using live wallpapers?Always found them to cause some nasty lag on my phones(Currently Desire HD,maybe GS2 in the near future...Well,that or Sensation! ).If yes,try switching to normal pictures or lighter LWPs.
Now that I mentioned it though,could you guys do me a favour?There are four LWPs on the market from maxelus.net,Shadow Galaxy,Inferno Galaxy,Ice Galaxy and Vortex Galaxy.They are magnificent,but are causing far too much lag on my DHD.Could you guys test them out and tell me the results?
Now that I think of it they suit the phone...A galaxy wallpaper on Galaxy S...
Sorry for offtopic,eh?
zidane said:
i am on ke7 and i have a lag when i go the the home screen. be it using the home button or just pressing back until i get there.
it goes back to any other screen very smoothly, but when it goes back to the home screen, there is about 3 seconds lag.
i have 5 homescreens, using stock touchwiz
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I have lag too going to home screen about 3 second, very annoying but it is on ke2, touchwiz, 3 screens, weather and time widgets. Sometimes lag is smaller. Removing all widgets i have small delay about 1 second returning to home screen. I wish it would be instant...
P.S. No live wallpapers
chaugi said:
I have lag too going to home screen about 3 second, very annoying but it is on ke2, touchwiz, 3 screens, weather and time widgets. Sometimes lag is smaller. Removing all widgets i have small delay about 1 second returning to home screen. I wish it would be instant...
P.S. No live wallpapers
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i think its the launcher.
try launcher pro, and the lag will go away
however im staying on touchwiz because i really like the widgets, unless you know any way i can get all my widgets with any other launcher?

Write your review of ICS

I want to read your review of ICS on your Iconia. What do you like, what you think is lacking and should have been different as compared to HC. Positive and negative reviews are important so don't feel like you only have to pick just what you like or what is wrong with it. Write it all. Your first impressions and if you want, a followup later - once you've had some time with it.
I'd like to ask that you put some thought into it. Not that it has to be long but no single sentences. I'll just get a mod to clean the thread of them.
I'll get the ball rolling:
I went ahead and installed and can report no issues so far. A couple of things though.
After it booted [after the install] it wouldn't connect to the network automatically - I had to manually tell it to connect, though it still had the credentials and has since connected fine upon multiple reboots.
The browser bookmarks synced automatically. My problem was with HC - for the life of me it wouldn't sync my browser - all my other computers synced up fine with my primary and I tried everything I could to get it to sync with HC but it wouldn't and that was from a fresh reset a few weeks ago. After rebooting into ICS I found all my bookmarks synced up quickly so I'm happy again.
No screen issues and it's far more snappier than it was on fresh vanilla HC. To be fair, I reset a few weeks ago and only installed about 5 apps - aldiko, dropbox, docs etc... the basics. Even vanilla HC was a bit of a bear sometimes but ICS is not.
No more stuttering when swiping through homescreen in orientations other than normal which is great to see.
I much prefer the new app drawer. It's a much more unified experience and swiping is so snappy! That's is the biggest things for me. But it's also nice to see a clean area. The HC apps/widget/wallpaper nightmare was just that. Not in terms of navigation, it just looked fugly and dropped me out of the whole HC look. Now it's far more complimentary to the ICS experience.
The whole swiping apps/notifications features is nice but I'm not sure it's really doing anything. I opened Gmaps and saw it listed in the running apps list in Settings - went to the homescreen - opened up the recent list and swiped Gmaps out - went back to settings>apps and it was still present. It wasn't a solid test, to be sure, but I'm not sure how significant the swipe to remove tasks is and whether it is actually meant to kills tasks or just remove them from the list. [confusion on my part] Second to that, I'm pretty ambivalent about the swiping notifications feature - an X to press, a tab to swipe - it's all the same and neither adds to or takes away from that basic function.
I could care less about the ring and I haven't read anywhere that we were suppose to get it at all so it's no surprise to me to not see it. Same with face-unlock. It's not something I would use.
Well for my Acer a 500 the stock browser is super sloooww. It was super fast before the update. My screen flickers within some apps. For some reason scrolling is slow also. Before update I could swipe and scroll and it would scroll fast and its not the same anymore. For instance before update on my browser I could scroll down and it was so fast I would have to back up to get to exact spot I wanted to read. Now I scroll down and it only goes down a short distance and have to scroll again. I cannot remove zinio, tegra games and a few other bloatware that I have no use for. These are my big complaints with the update now.
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Looking good so far.
Since the update I have been testing all of my apps. So far all are working correctly. I was disappointed that I lost root, however that was an easy fix. I searched the forum and found an easy way to get full root. Had a few hickups at first with the browser and network connections, but they seemed to correct themselves as the day progressed.
Overall I am very happy.
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Well for my Acer a 500 the stock browser is super sloooww. It was super fast before the update. My screen flickers within some apps. For some reason scrolling is slow also. Before update I could swipe and scroll and it would scroll fast and its not the same anymore. For instance before update on my browser I could scroll down and it was so fast I would have to back up to get to exact spot I wanted to read. Now I scroll down and it only goes down a short distance and have to scroll again. I cannot remove zinio, tegra games and a few other bloatware that I have no use for. These are my big complaints with the update now.
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Screen flickering is what I am also experiencing quite a lot with ICS. With honeycomb, that was never an issue but a lot of apps make the screen flicker in ICS. For me, the stock browser and scrolling is blazing fast with ICS. It had a bit of lag when on honeycomb. Also, I just tried uninstalling zinio and I was able to. Couldn't do the same with tegra games, however, though!
So far I am really liking ICS but there are definitely a few issues that need to be worked on. The update process in itself was not smooth. I had to try 4 times, reboot and even factory reset before I was able to update the tablet to ICS.
Overall, I am having mixed reviews.
I had no problems downloading or updating. I just don't see much difference from honeycomb. I can now use some ics only apps, so that's ok. Switching home screens seems to have less lag. I guess I just expected more from this update.
Overall I guess it is nice to be up to date but it still feels llike the same old tablet.
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ICS + A500 : Home Screen Long Press Disaster
If I'm missing something PLEASE let me know.
Otherwise why are people taking this sitting down?!
BEFORE ICS long press on Home Screens brought up:
1-split screen with Widgets and Apps below and ALL 5 Home Screens above
2-sending Widgets and Apps to specific Home Screens was a breeze
3-click on a Widget and send it to the page of your choice and watch it go there
4-click on one Widget after another and off they all go
5-the same applies to Apps: you can click on 10 apps one after the other and they all add themselves to the Home Screen of your choice
6-then with simple tap and back to the Home Screen
AFTER ICS long press on home screens brings up...are you ready for this?
1-Choose your wallpaper (WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF THE LONG PRESS)
2-to get to the widgets list you have to press the apps grid icon at top right
3-that brings you to a tabbed list of Apps and Widgets (this is the OLD SLOW way of adding Apps and Widgets to your home screens!!!)
4-click on Widgets and
5-now press on one widget and ICS brings you back to the home screens where you can drop your widget on the main home screen or push it around to other home screens (very TEDIUS and CLUMSY process!!!!!)
6-now you HAVE TO go back HOME to then press the apps grid icon at top right AGAIN to get back to the tabbed list of Apps and Widgets, then press on Widgets and repeat the process for adding other widgets to the home screens!
7-each and every time you want to add an App or a Widget you ICS forces you to go through this process
8-meaning that you can only add one App or one Widget at......a.......time......!!!
I have to wonder what kind of genius would get rid of the split screen that shows all the home screens, the Apps, and the Widgets?!
Is there a launcher app that would give me back my split screen with a long press on the home screens?!
So far, so good. I never expected the Ultimate Tablet Nirvana from ICS... just incremental improvements. The A500 is smoother and more responsive. I really like the new media player, especially the row of movies/clip thumbs, etc at the bottom. Chrome is a big thing. I've used about every browser out there and was never fully satisfied with any of them. Chrome, for the first time, gives a desktop experience on a tablet. That alone makes the ICS upgrade worthwhile.
On a side note, my 64gb micro-sdxc card arrived the same day I updated, so that's another nice In Your Face to the iPad rabble out there. 80gb of storage.
idroids said:
If I'm missing something PLEASE let me know.
Otherwise why are people taking this sitting down?!
BEFORE ICS long press on Home Screens brought up:
1-split screen with Widgets and Apps below and ALL 5 Home Screens above
2-sending Widgets and Apps to specific Home Screens was a breeze
3-click on a Widget and send it to the page of your choice and watch it go there
4-click on one Widget after another and off they all go
5-the same applies to Apps: you can click on 10 apps one after the other and they all add themselves to the Home Screen of your choice
6-then with simple tap and back to the Home Screen
AFTER ICS long press on home screens brings up...are you ready for this?
1-Choose your wallpaper (WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF THE LONG PRESS)
2-to get to the widgets list you have to press the apps grid icon at top right
3-that brings you to a tabbed list of Apps and Widgets (this is the OLD SLOW way of adding Apps and Widgets to your home screens!!!)
4-click on Widgets and
5-now press on one widget and ICS brings you back to the home screens where you can drop your widget on the main home screen or push it around to other home screens (very TEDIUS and CLUMSY process!!!!!)
6-now you HAVE TO go back HOME to then press the apps grid icon at top right AGAIN to get back to the tabbed list of Apps and Widgets, then press on Widgets and repeat the process for adding other widgets to the home screens!
7-each and every time you want to add an App or a Widget you ICS forces you to go through this process
8-meaning that you can only add one App or one Widget at......a.......time......!!!
I have to wonder what kind of genius would get rid of the split screen that shows all the home screens, the Apps, and the Widgets?!
Is there a launcher app that would give me back my split screen with a long press on the home screens?!
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You need to realize that ICS is written for use on phones and tablets, not just tablets. The old way may have been quicker on tablets but wouldn't be very useful for phones (and their much smaller screens). It was a necessary sacrifice.
I personally don't have an issue with the new way, just because I'm not adding 10 apps or widgets to a screen anyway and I don't find the movements that time consuming vs. the old way. If I WERE adding lots of apps or widgets to a screen then I suppose I'd agree completely. I however prefer the widgets in a bigger area instead of having to scroll forever through them, in fact to me it seems a better trade off for the widgets.
ICS appears to be more polished than hc when it came out. Hc 3.0.1 was not a refined experience. There will be some changes when 4.0.4 is pushed, but it is enough to prevent me from going out and purchasing the next new tablet.
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The Good:
Everything is more responsive, period. Moving around is quicker, switching home screens is quicker, moving through apps and widgets is quicker. Not that the A500 was slow before, but it had its hiccups. This gives the tablet new life, imo - it really feels like a different piece of hardware.
The interface is more streamlined. I've never been into form over function, but in this case everything works well together. Many apps now written for ICS fit in with the whole scheme of things which creates a more uniform experience and aesthetic. Many ICS App widgets now allow you to choose either their default or black, which fits in with the ICS color scheme.
Some, dare I say most? video issues seem to have been addressed as I can play files I'd needed to use 3rd party apps to play on the included player now. Flash also seems more fluid.
Notifications are easily closed (with one X vs. many).
Widgets are laid out in a drawer vs. scroll bar making it much better and easier (for some) to go through and add them to screens.
Settings have been improved; for example, there's now a setting to see the data apps use, factory reset is now under a more obvious tab and other settings are found more easily as well.
Booting is fairly quick vs. Honeycomb. Seems to boot in under a minute no matter how many apps are installed. Booting is generally fast based on the amt. of apps that are installed, but I seemed to boot in roughly the same time before installing apps as after installing over 200 of them.
Some of the new features are nice, the screenshot ability is definitely welcome and swiping away apps is also great. Note: some apps will never fully close as they use services that run in the background.
The Bad:
Some users preferred the long press, split screen and 1-click adding of apps and widgets to the home screen vs. the App Drawer approach. I am inclined to agree that this method can be faster for adding multiple app icons and widgets to the home screens.
The Ugly: (bugs?)
The native browser still doesn't seem to be able to handle encrypted content from Google Chrome, and so the native browser cannot be synced with a Google Account which has had its content encrypted. It can only handle accounts with their passwords encrypted (which is the default).
How I see it is, if Chrome Beta can handle it, I don't see why there wasn't a setting added to the native ICS Browser to allow for it. To me, this doesn't make sense. Perhaps I'm just missing something.
***At "excellent" strength and a 75Mbps link rate, upon checking for updates I get a message saying "network coverage is poor, move to a location with better coverage to continue". Hopefully some sort of fix comes from Acer directly before they issue more updates as I can now essentially, not receive updates (apparently).
Will append to list as I come across stuff.
***Update: This doesn't seem to be specific to ICS. After further investigation it seems this WAS caused by something on Acer's end (as of 4/29/2012, updated 5/22/2012).
UPDATE:
As of 5/22/2012 I have not been having/seeing any issues. I have noticed that when the tablet is extremely low on power (under 10% or so) it turns the wifi off when sleeping, even though I've set it to never turn wifi off. I'm not certain if this is a bug or working as intended in ICS as some power saving feature. This never, ever happens when the tablet is on A/C power or docked. When I wake the tablet, wifi is connected to automatically. I'm personally happy that it does this, but I can see it being a problem for some people...so I don't really want to file this under bug/issues.
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At "excellent" strength and a 75Mbps link rate, upon checking for updates I get a message saying "network coverage is poor, move to a location with better coverage to continue". Hopefully some sort of fix comes from Acer directly before they issue more updates as I can now essentially, not receive updates
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I'm betting this is simply they message they're sending because their servers are being overloaded from the ICS push.
Why ICS for Tablets AND Phones?
Taking the split screen feature away from my A500 is like taking my steering wheel and my automatic transmissions away from my car! Argggghhh!
Cutting corners on an OS so that it works exactly the same on phones and tablets makes about as much sense as saying that the engines used on a 2-seater plane, in a jet fighter, and in a 747 should all work the same so as to give the passengers the same experience. That is "plane" old silly. What is even SILLIER is to insist on putting a plush airliner seat into a 2 passenger plane or to insist on keeping a propeller on jumbo 747s.
I totally get that the split screen (showing ALL the home screens at once above and the Apps and the Widgets below) would not work well on an small phone but why should it since it's NOT designed for a small screen? Why do tablet users have to put up with taking 3 steps backward just so that phone users can take 3 steps forward.
Tablet users should simply be given the choice to customize their experience so that they can take advantage of the extra real estate on their screens instead of being forced to put up with restrictive aspects of an OS that is trying to be everything to everyone. Sure ICS is a big improvement on Honeycomb, but why did some aspects of its OS have to be amputated simply to satisfy some designer's need to have a single OS for 2 VERY different gadgets?
So PLEASE, when the next version of ICS comes out PLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEASSSEEE give us tablet users the split screen again through the long tap on the Home Screens! Think about it! How often are you going to change your background? Making the long tap lead ONLY to the background change screen is such a WASTE of a unique gesture!
Well if you absolutely want long press to open drawer, try Apex launcher, it's based on ICS launcher but there's an option for binding long press/double tap to any function of the launcher. There is many more options that should suits you. Nova launcher is another alternative you can try.
Positives
A couple of the things I noticed right off is that when recording you don't get the terrible background noise you always seemed to get on hc supports avi video format now which I was happy with and the camera and video app seem to be recording at better detail not sure if its me or my cam? The browser is also blazing fast for me now. Layout is also crisp and clean the ring is useful makes taking screenshots a snap.
Negatives...have noticed some apps cause terrible lag for me there was also a lot of lag and freezing the first couple of hours I had the update. Also sometimes the screen flickers stated above ^^^^ none of these are big issues and shouldn't keep you from updating to enjoy
I had a lot of issues with the ICS update. I finally had to do a factory reset. Some issues were solved, but others remain:
Seems to be solved:
- Unstable applications (flashing and crashing, including Gmail).
- Unstable folders (flashing, crashing and all icons on the desktop disappearing).
Unsolved:
- Wifi is unstable and does not auto-connect (I have to connect manually when I restart the tablet or when I get home... it was working fine before ICS).
- The GPS does not work (I am not sure if it was working before ICS... as I had not had the time to test, so maybe it is not new).
- System update does not work (indicates that network coverage is insufficient despite the signal being strong and staying beside the wireless router).
ICS = bitter pill to swallow!
Well I learned the hard way that I shouldn't have jumped on the ICS bandwagon too early!
I cannot believe that in 2012 we have people designing MAJOR OS updates that have MAJOR problems and bugs!
Why not just wait another month or so and work out these major problems before unleashing ICS on everyone.
I mean didn't the ICS designer and programmers TEST ICS ON ALL TABLET AND PHONE platforms BEFORE releasing it to the world?
I'm going to milk my airplane analogy some more and say this:
Releasing ICS without having thoroughly tested it across ALL platforms is like building a plane and not knowing if it is designed well enough to fly at different altitudes and even worse not being sure it can actually land well in ALL major airports in the world in spite of different weather conditions.
Can you tell I am SICK of designers and programmers NOT having done their homework and using the general public to test their new OS for them?!
This HAS GOT to change!
I have one huge problem. In HC 3.2.1, when I press the volume button, it brought out the volume bar, and by taping the speaker icon, I can turn the volume to off, now it doesn't do anything!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's really annoying to have to hold the volume button to turn off the sound.
One Giant bonus I like in ICS is you can make native folders without the need of a secondary app.
Having one strange flaw which is my tablet randomly vibrates for no apparent reason other than that so far so go and the whole UI just seems a bit smoother than it was before on HC. Browser seems Way more Responsive than HC as well.
I'm pretty happy with ICS but GPS is not working at all. I need to check the gps.conf but it was working on HC.
Best feature of ICS: Chrome browser.

Oreo 8.0 Beta Experiences So Far

As many know the beta went live for Sprint, Unlocked, and T-Mobile customers earlier today so I thought (since I didn't see one posted already) that a thread of our experiences with it so far would be nice to have.
So far here is a list of bugs some comments have posted in this thread:
Laggier than Nougat
Live Messages force close
Adhell2 frequent force closes
Bluetooth fails to turn on until reboot
Random reboots
Personally, it feels snappier in nearly all operations when using Nova Launcher Prime, but it's when I switched back to TouchWiz that I've noticed that it feels much more responsive than it did before. It feels much better.now and I'm going to use Touchwiz for a few days and see if it's worth using now.
The one area I was really hoping that would have seen an improvement would be swiling to the right for Bixby, which feels worse now somehow. While Bixby seems a little better when activating with voice, and the new interface for Bixby home does look nicer (personal opinion, obviously) the actually swiping is still a slow mess.
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BETA 7 (Jan 19th, 2018)
Model Name and 5/W Version
-SM-G950U1/SM-G955U1: ZRAE
Bug Fix
-Badge count of message app does not match.
-System security does not close after fr nished
scanning.
-Samsung Experience force closes.
-Camera failed to open. Recording starts a lot
later after record button is pressed.
-Battery drain issue.
-Unable to use scroll wheel on mouse on Side
Sync App.
-Email app inside the secure folder does not
update count.
-Samsung Keyboard force closes.
-Device reboots while using Sprint Direct Connect
app.
-Notification panel does not show any
notifr cations and it is cut off on top.
-Weather widget letters are overlapping.
-System Ul force closed and screen went black
for couple of seconds.
-Samsung Cloud force closes.
-Camera shows blackscreen on split screen and
is unable to take pictures.
BETA 6 (Jan 12th, 2018)
-Bixby briefing does not work when setting alarm.
-Wrong display (text error) on Download Booster
information
-Game Tuner App crashes every time user restart his
device.
-Samsung Cloud crashes or freezes every time you
delete old backups.
-As unnecessary display on, the battery is draining.
-As acceleration sensor error, increase battery
consumption.
-Gallery Today card in Bixby Home not working.
-Newly downloaded apps show two app icons.
-Alarms play for less than a second and turn
themselves off.
-Samsung keyboard frequently keeps pressing digits
twice.
-Face recognition is not working, and Iris recognition
is slow.
-Smart View is not connected.
-Random restart and lock up on the home screen.
-Message app force closes after hitting send.
-Device is set to vibration mode but notification
sounds after a restart
-Time and date is cut off on quick panel.
-Samsung keyboard force closes
-WhatsApp icon badge shown as blank circle when it
is set to 'show numbers'
-Email app constantly freezes and crashes every
chance it gets.
-Unable to stop Samsung Health from notification
panel.
-Call history not getting updated.
-App uninstallation taking lot of time.
-Galaxy apps, S finder crashes.
-Smart select not used in Wechat dual messenger
-Security folders are occasionally unable to use iris,
and fingerprint unlock
-Can't be set, replacing desktop wallpaper, and
screen wallpaper
-Wechat icon badge is not updated.
-camera freeze/lock up/black screen when opened
iris not working
-device continues to vibrate and reset after
answering calls or after missing calls
-random lock up/reset
-sluggish when opening apps from notifications
-lock up/reset while connecting/disconnecting
android auto
-unable to turn on profile sharing
Known Issues
-Constantly rebooting thp-hone when dual app
sound is set to on in Sot. A, sistant app.
BETA 4 (Dec 14th, 2017)
Bug fixes for Beta 4:
Galaxy Apps is intermittently force closed
- Battery consumption is excessive.
The iris sensor is not responding
-Samsung Theme is intermittently force closed
- Messaging force closes whenever emoji is
selected
- Settings are intermittently force closed
Notification doesn't disappear after reading
message
Phone is intermittently not recognizing memory
card
Sync errors with Samsung Cloud
Failed to log-in to the Samsung Account
Device sometimes reboots during idle
Failed to recognize Kakao Bank ID card
Wi-Fi is turned on while playing video on the
internet.
Pictures are not shown in gallery
Game Tools intermittently force closes when
starting a game
Front camera is sluggish and takes blurry
picture
Lockup has occurred after end call
Messaging force closes when selecting attach
button
Camera lagging shooting 1080p 60fps video
Camera lags when opened or after opened
□ Known Issue
-Camera app locks upn trying to use dual
camera mode
Anyway to load oreo like we where able to with nougat and lollipop. I mean with a file to flash via odin
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its kinda laggy. lots of apps have been force closing. battery life has been pretty good tho
Keep getting an app called mobile downloader in notification panel up to the left, can't clear it can only snooze it, wtf, I like a tidy left notification panel especially on the left
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I got this also on sprint, I just forced closed it. Comes back with a reboot but whatever, the notification is gone
I like a tidy notification panel/Status bar as well and I'm now noticing more than usual notifications that I don't like:
"so and so app is running in the background" and I can't disable it. That's annoying.
blane3298 said:
its kinda laggy. lots of apps have been force closing. battery life has been pretty good tho
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I haven't had anything force close expectedly and it hasn't been laggy at all for me. What carrier are you on?
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felacio said:
I like a tidy notification panel/Status bar as well and I'm now noticing more than usual notifications that I don't like:
"so and so app is running in the background" and I can't disable it. That's annoying.
I haven't had anything force close expectedly and it hasn't been laggy at all for me. What carrier are you on?
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att on unlocked firmware
blane3298 said:
att on unlocked firmware
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I'm on T-Mobile. You may need to do a cache clear and reboot it. I know that can clear up lag after an update sometimes. Always worth a shot if you haven't already.
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It's stable, has silly bugs but on a whole it's much to do about nothing.
It's not a case of Samsung at all, it's android itself. Google just don't bring much to the table anymore
samsung keyboard forced closed but came back in a reboot, usually use gboard though, so im going back to that
I have been running 8.0 Beta 1 for about 8 hours now, and have also reverted back to TouchWiz from Nova so I can view the full experience. So far, everything is faster. No issues with any content or apps already loaded from 7. I have only noticed one small, split-second glitch so far, and that was an animation delay returning to the Home screen from using an app. 30 apps sitting in Recents right now, so could have happened just the same on 7. Regardless, I am completely content, and have already forgotten that were talking about a beta, let alone Beta 1. Surprisingly good job Samsung, and I'm still in shock that we even have Oreo already, to be honest... Looking forward to further testing and the finished release.
My S8 is my only cellphone phone , I consider myself a Android enthusiasts. I love tweaking settings.and I'm always on my phone. Do you think the beta is stable enough ? to install theOreo beta i have already downloaded it I just want to see, if the apps are closing , crashing, buggy ,rebooting ect. The occasional hiccup will be no big deal thanks in advance for your response
Does anyone else's Live Messages force close while using the messaging app? I ask because I previously installed the Note 8 Live Messages mod before I installed the Oreo Update and I'm not sure if that may be the reason why it is now force closing.
felacio said:
I like a tidy notification panel/Status bar as well and I'm now noticing more than usual notifications that I don't like:
"so and so app is running in the background" and I can't disable it. That's annoying.
I haven't had anything force close expectedly and it hasn't been laggy at all for me. What carrier are you on?
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Download this app it'll fix that notification
Is there still massive animation lag/dropped frames when hitting the home key returning to the home page from Samsung browser?
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My S8 is my only cellphone phone , I consider myself a Android enthusiasts. I love tweaking settings.and I'm always on my phone. Do you think the beta is stable enough ? to install theOreo beta i have already downloaded it I just want to see, if the apps are closing , crashing, buggy ,rebooting ect. The occasional hiccup will be no big deal thanks in advance for your response
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Personally it has been snappier with no app crashes. I have had Facebook crash and some other app I don't remember, but it was something else I had installed and not a major component and it has only been once for both, but Facebook had issues all week since I re-enabled it. It has just now been working better (POS app anyway.)
That and the annoying to me notification panel are the only things. No bugs, lag, etc but I can't speak on battery yet... So far it seems in line, but I don't really know until tomorrow.
Does anyone else's Live Messages force close while using the messaging app? I ask because I previously installed the Note 8 Live Messages mod before I installed the Oreo Update and I'm not sure if that may be the reason why it is now force closing.
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No problems with Messages here, but I haven't modded it from the Note app so I dunno, and this version doesn't have the Live messages feature still, so I'm going to guess that might be the issue there.
Quickvic30 said:
Is there still massive animation lag/dropped frames when hitting the home button returning to the home page from Samsung browser?
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It still isn't as fast at going back to home as other apps, but it's a far better transition than it has been.
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Ok, phone just rebooted while sitting at my desk. Nothing was going on and the last app I had opened was dialer. Hoping that doesn't turn into a trend.
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thought poweramp was not working, turns out it had lost my music folder on the sd card and I had to point it at it again.
How is the battery life?
I have been experiencing the same issue. Whenever I select it on the keyboard the message "Live Messenger has closed" appears and the phone just vibrates on me. I tried a reboot to get it to work and still no change. I am also constantly getting "New Messaging Features" appearing in my message bar, over and over and when I click "Start" I do not get the code and get it completely registered. Not sure if that is adding to the issue as well.
youngquazy said:
Does anyone else's Live Messages force close while using the messaging app? I ask because I previously installed the Note 8 Live Messages mod before I installed the Oreo Update and I'm not sure if that may be the reason why it is now force closing.
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