Google Hangouts - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all,
This the new news today. And installed the update.
Is there a way to combine text messages with the hangout so its all in one?
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icrzymonkey said:
Hi all,
This the new news today. And installed the update.
Is there a way to combine text messages with the hangout so its all in one?
Sent from my Nexus 4
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Hangouts is pretty much just a Google Talk replacement at the moment. It doesn't unify anything.
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DirgeExtinction said:
Hangouts is pretty much just a Google Talk replacement at the moment. It doesn't unify anything.
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Thanks... Fingers crossed it does do
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Well, it totally screws up the easy way of cross compatible situation that Gtalk provided with XMPP. So many Messengers on various Computer Systems, incl. Android and iOS could connect to a Gtalk account. Now thats all over. What has that to do with unifying ? Sounds more to me like "limiting".
I suppose, since Gtalk was a major part in Android, one that I believe cannot/could not be uninstalled (please correct me if I am wrong here), we can't uninstall Google Hangout now. Right ? Since if it replaces Talk, it must be a part of the System that can't be uninstalled. Or please tell me that its no problem to uninstall it ?
Any info is appreciated.
Thank you.
Wolfseye

I don't like the fact that we can't see the online/offline status of the people in our friend lists anymore!

wpkwolfseye said:
Well, it totally screws up the easy way of cross compatible situation that Gtalk provided with XMPP. So many Messengers on various Computer Systems, incl. Android and iOS could connect to a Gtalk account. Now thats all over. What has that to do with unifying ? Sounds more to me like "limiting".
I suppose, since Gtalk was a major part in Android, one that I believe cannot/could not be uninstalled (please correct me if I am wrong here), we can't uninstall Google Hangout now. Right ? Since if it replaces Talk, it must be a part of the System that can't be uninstalled. Or please tell me that its no problem to uninstall it ?
Any info is appreciated.
Thank you.
Wolfseye
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It's no problem to uninstall it. You can uninstall with titanium backup.
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Thank you, that worked.
Does anyone know if Google will also disable the Gtalk Servers with the use for Gtalk compatible XMPP apps on for example PC or if that is still running a while ?
Wolfseye

wpkwolfseye said:
Well, it totally screws up the easy way of cross compatible situation that Gtalk provided with XMPP. So many Messengers on various Computer Systems, incl. Android and iOS could connect to a Gtalk account. Now thats all over. What has that to do with unifying ? Sounds more to me like "limiting".
I suppose, since Gtalk was a major part in Android, one that I believe cannot/could not be uninstalled (please correct me if I am wrong here), we can't uninstall Google Hangout now. Right ? Since if it replaces Talk, it must be a part of the System that can't be uninstalled. Or please tell me that its no problem to uninstall it ?
Any info is appreciated.
Thank you.
Wolfseye
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I move the file which named talk.apk from system/app,and then open google play,hangouts can be installed.
But I put the file back,and reboot device.Gtalk is back again, hangouts is missing.
Now I am back to gtalk

youngcn said:
I move the file which named talk.apk from system/app,and then open google play,hangouts can be installed.
But I put the file back,and reboot device.Gtalk is back again, hangouts is missing.
Now I am back to gtalk
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I uninstalled it with Titanium Backups. Now its gone. Can I go back to Gtalk again and if, will it next time be automatically updated with Hangouts again since Google wants to get rid of Gtalk ? Does anyone know if Gtalk (in general) still works as for the Servers, so I could use it on a PC with some alternate Messenger.
Any info on that is appreciated.
Wolfseye

wpkwolfseye said:
I uninstalled it with Titanium Backups. Now its gone. Can I go back to Gtalk again and if, will it next time be automatically updated with Hangouts again since Google wants to get rid of Gtalk ? Does anyone know if Gtalk (in general) still works as for the Servers, so I could use it on a PC with some alternate Messenger.
Any info on that is appreciated.
Wolfseye
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You can go back to gtalk,put the file back to the path,and reboot
When I updated gtalk to hangouts, PC termination had worked as usual.
I think automatically update of gtalk will be successful next time.

youngcn said:
You can go back to gtalk,put the file back to the path,and reboot
When I updated gtalk to hangouts, PC termination had worked as usual.
I think automatically update of gtalk will be successful next time.
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If I understand you correct, I could put in TALK again but next time (or soon) it will be updated automatically to Hangout again, since that is what Google will force on everyone. So there is no point in putting Talk back I suppose. I just hope they keep the XMPP Servers running for Talk to be used on other Systems like PC. So many nice apps that can be used with Gtalk. Pidgin, Miranda etc.

wpkwolfseye said:
If I understand you correct, I could put in TALK again but next time (or soon) it will be updated automatically to Hangout again, since that is what Google will force on everyone. So there is no point in putting Talk back I suppose. I just hope they keep the XMPP Servers running for Talk to be used on other Systems like PC. So many nice apps that can be used with Gtalk. Pidgin, Miranda etc.
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yes, you are right.
I also like XMPP Servers, but talk combine with google+ message, what a pity.

If you're on a computer, go to Google plus page and turn hangouts on, there is a green line under the picture of contacts who are online. My list of contacts that show are just frequently used ones though. I know this isn't the same but maybe it will show up in the app soon.

ya its a great design but really missing the simple facts.
GOOGLE if you're reading this, combine all the servers into one.

it is still called talk and still looks the same, however apparently I already have the hangout update... what can I do? I rebooted my nexus twice and talk is still there.

It doesnt look the same at all actually. Lol. if it looks the Same for you, it hasn't been rolled out to you yet. there is a phandroid article with a link to the app itself and you can just install it manually.
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well it still says talk up left... thanks, I might do it manually, can't wait even tough I never used google talk :laugh:
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finally, looks completely different. love it.

according to phandroid it will support sms in a future update.

I removed it completely. If I can't have Google Talk, I dont want that Hangout stuff at all. Google totally screwed up something great XMPP cross-platform stuff which no Google+ or Google Hangout can replace. Not everything wants to be done on a phone, tablet or Browser.

wpkwolfseye said:
I removed it completely. If I can't have Google Talk, I dont want that Hangout stuff at all. Google totally screwed up something great XMPP cross-platform stuff which no Google+ or Google Hangout can replace. Not everything wants to be done on a phone, tablet or Browser.
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[Q] Facebook Functional?

i just want to confirm this anyone...is your facebook app broken?
inspiron41 said:
i just want to confirm this anyone...is your facebook app broken?
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Not sure what you mean by broken. I have it loaded and can browse around without issue although it is clearly not designed for tablets. I have also not posted anything using the app but can verify that it does install and can browse without a problem.
Won't Sync
I cannot get Facebook to sync. Anyone else have this problem? Application seems to work otherwise.
sddenizen said:
I cannot get Facebook to sync. Anyone else have this problem? Application seems to work otherwise.
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What do you mean by sync? Like the phone, add it to Accounts and Sync in the tablet settings? It is not showing for me here as it does on my phone. I do not think that will work until we get a Honeycomb version.
EDIT: Actually it does show when trying to "add account" but does nothing.
I can't use the FB widget. It's FCs on me when I drag it over to a screen.
As for FB/Google integration... there appears to be a fight between Facebook and Google. I guess Google patched up some type of exploit that FB was using to merge/link contacts. It's fine for HTC, TouchWiz, MotoBlur... but not with a direct Google experience device.
Just search Google for more info on this. I read only a paragraph or so and got bored of the politics behind it.
If I remember correctly, facebook is now blocking google from exporting numbers/pictures status's.
This was on the news somewhere
Germwise said:
If I remember correctly, facebook is now blocking google from exporting numbers/pictures status's.
This was on the news somewhere
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It still works on my Samsung Captivate though.
Same as others.. Can load the app and use it however trying to add an account to sych friends, as I've done on my D1 Droid, it blinks then does nothing. After doing this I've found occasionally the actual app then crashes, even with reboot, and must be re-installed to get it back.
I'm sure a native Honeycomb version will arrive in due time.. For now I'm just using TweetDeck which works great for various accounts including: Facebook, Twitter, Foursquare, etc.
Germwise said:
If I remember correctly, facebook is now blocking google from exporting numbers/pictures status's.
This was on the news somewhere
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Yes they did. Google wants them to use there software to sync thru.

[Q] Text from your nook? (DesktopSMS)

Hey guys!
Just wondering if anyone has played around with DeskSMS....
I was interested in learning more about texting from your nook. I know theres other programs out there that are like this but Desktop, which i think is out of beta now seems simple. Just want to know how it works and to set it up. Its kinda confusing to me...ive been trying to use it through google talk.
Dont know if anyone has used this app or could help me set it up??
Thanks! Bobby
I use google voice for all of my texting. Works great.
I've been using it the past few days. To do it:
1) Install DeskSMS on your phone
2) install a chat client with google talk support on the nook, i'm currently using Trillian and have tried almost all of them
***Be sure you use the same google account in both applications with you set them up.***
The DeskSMS app is pretty straight forward but if you need it detailed, i can try.
If you use GO SMS or Handscent, make sure you follow the notes in the app description for DeskSMS.
aeturnus77 said:
I've been using it the past few days. To do it:
1) Install DeskSMS on your phone
2) install a chat client with google talk support on the nook, i'm currently using Trillian and have tried almost all of them
***Be sure you use the same google account in both applications with you set them up.***
The DeskSMS app is pretty straight forward but if you need it detailed, i can try.
If you use GO SMS or Handscent, make sure you follow the notes in the app description for DeskSMS.
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Thanks for letting me know about trillian...i downloaded it from amazon apps free of the day a while ago but never used it....so glad i downloaded it heheh. That works great. I set it up using my gmail account thats linked to DeskSKS.
Question though....when your in DeskSKS....does gmail account or google talk need to be checked box? Wasnt sure if they needed to be since im not using either, just trillian. I was using google talk, but it doesnt work all the time and is pretty confusing. Trillian seems like the best.
Also your first thanks is on the way....happy to give it to ya!
AEBobby912 said:
Thanks for letting me know about trillian...i downloaded it from amazon apps free of the day a while ago but never used it....so glad i downloaded it heheh. That works great. I set it up using my gmail account thats linked to DeskSKS.
Question though....when your in DeskSKS....does gmail account or google talk need to be checked box? Wasnt sure if they needed to be since im not using either, just trillian. I was using google talk, but it doesnt work all the time and is pretty confusing. Trillian seems like the best.
Also your first thanks is on the way....happy to give it to ya!
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happy to help!
From my understanding of DeskSMS, checking off Gmail or GTalk in the app is what triggers the texts to be forwarded to the Nook. I have Google Talk checked off so that when my text messages come in, they forward to my Google Talk connection, wherever I'm signed into that at (...which is Trillian for my Nook, or the actual Google Talk app on the PC when I'm at work - easier to text through a computer than a phone when I'm supposed to be programming ;] ).
I imagine the same would be true for Gmail, only it'd go to your email inbox instead and you could use Gmail to do your texting.
Or you can do both of those things at the same time by having both checked off.
Good luck, Cubs fan!
aeturnus77 said:
happy to help!
From my understanding of DeskSMS, checking off Gmail or GTalk in the app is what triggers the texts to be forwarded to the Nook. I have Google Talk checked off so that when my text messages come in, they forward to my Google Talk connection, wherever I'm signed into that at (...which is Trillian for my Nook, or the actual Google Talk app on the PC when I'm at work - easier to text through a computer than a phone when I'm supposed to be programming ;] ).
I imagine the same would be true for Gmail, only it'd go to your email inbox instead and you could use Gmail to do your texting.
Or you can do both of those things at the same time by having both checked off.
Good luck, Cubs fan!
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Yeah i understand the google thing....Trillian is connected to google talk which is how your able to send and recieve messages So far everything is working great, and Trillian has great fbook chat as well which i thought wasnt working last time i used it....sooo glad i have that to heheh
Thanks for the help...goooooo cubbies haha!
AEBobby912 said:
Hey guys!
Just wondering if anyone has played around with DeskSMS....
I was interested in learning more about texting from your nook. I know theres other programs out there that are like this but Desktop, which i think is out of beta now seems simple. Just want to know how it works and to set it up. Its kinda confusing to me...ive been trying to use it through google talk.
Dont know if anyone has used this app or could help me set it up??
Thanks! Bobby
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Wow..thanks to u for posting this...didn't even know that was possible...gonna give it a go now...'
StarlahRain said:
Wow..thanks to u for posting this...didn't even know that was possible...gonna give it a go now...'
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Yeah its awesome...works flawless for me....im really suprised at how great the fbook chat is for Trillian which is good. Let me know if you need any help with DeskSMS! Should be pretty simple to set it up and they give you all the info you need in the description in the market.
Just wanted to give a shout out an say thanks. This works excellent. It solved my questions.
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Texting u mean like chatting?
For this I recommend Ebuddy and Nimbuzz
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ndinfla said:
Just wanted to give a shout out an say thanks. This works excellent. It solved my questions.
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No problem! thats what were here for! thanks for checking out the thread

Multiple Google Voice accounts?

so basically i want to use two google voice accounts to text from on my phone. I've tried editing the .apk but the recompiled apk force closes. Can anyone help me try to get this to work? Anytips? I'm just trying to basically install the same app twice and have it use diff. db files.
redyns said:
so basically i want to use two google voice accounts to text from on my phone. I've tried editing the .apk but the recompiled apk force closes. Can anyone help me try to get this to work? Anytips? I'm just trying to basically install the same app twice and have it use diff. db files.
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I'd be very interested in that as well.
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You'd have to do more than installing it twice. It would have to be re-written.
Well yeah I know that. You can't install the same app twice with out modifications to it. Then It would have to use a diff.Db for the account info. This is my first time messing with an apk so I have no idea how to make this work
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Doesn't Google Voice integrate its' number into your Sprint line?
decayer177 said:
Doesn't Google Voice integrate its' number into your Sprint line?
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It can if you want it to but you don't have to
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pgill34 said:
It can if you want it to but you don't have to
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How do you make it not? I tried using Google Voice, but it did it automatically and it took forever to revert.
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Titanium Backup (paid version only maybe?) has profiles to load different user data files for an app. You'd have to switch back and forth though. It would probably be easiest to try keeping a web browser logged into Google Voice your second account, setting the user agent to a desktop.
Or just use a second browser app only for this. You won't get instant notifications of incoming texts, but that's about all you can do for now. I don't see Google adding anything like this to the service, honestly.
jcorey said:
Titanium Backup (paid version only maybe?) has profiles to load different user data files for an app. You'd have to switch back and forth though. It would probably be easiest to try keeping a web browser logged into Google Voice your second account, setting the user agent to a desktop.
Or just use a second browser app only for this. You won't get instant notifications of incoming texts, but that's about all you can do for now. I don't see Google adding anything like this to the service, honestly.
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i think the idea is to have the instant notifications. I too have been looking for a solution to this problem for some time. i use multiple voice lines for work, one for hiring/recruiting and one for customers that i tell them is my "personal cell"
i thought the best solution would be to have two voice apks installed but i'm not finding a way to do that.
cowboyaryk said:
i think the idea is to have the instant notifications. I too have been looking for a solution to this problem for some time. i use multiple voice lines for work, one for hiring/recruiting and one for customers that i tell them is my "personal cell"
i thought the best solution would be to have two voice apks installed but i'm not finding a way to do that.
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Couldn't you just set up the separate account to forward to your phone account? You could also go into your GMail settings and set filters to forward all notifications to one account as well.
This would be much easier than hacking the apk...am I wrong?

[Q] Using a Nexus 4 without sending every private piece of info to Google

I got my N4 a couple of days ago. It's my first foray in the Android world.
The requirements that I am hoping to meet are pretty simple:
1) I want to be able to call contacts and send text messages
2) I don't want Google tracking my contact list
3) I don't want Google tracking my location
4) I don't want Google tracking my browsing history
5) I want to be able to use the Play store to download 3rd party apps. I didn't buy an N4 to use it it like a dumbphone. Logically, the Play store shouldn't require constant access to my contacts, location or browsing history.
I am making this post to get help meeting the above requirements. Despite seeming really basic, I'm running into trouble, and I think I will need frequent help. This thread can act as a journal that hopefully other people can follow.
What I did so far is immediately flashed the N4 to AOKP, and applied the OpenPDroid patches (though I've yet to use OPD). From a blank slate start, I declined to create an account, disabled location access, etc, during the startup wizard.
Adding a contact round 1
I was able to create a local, unsynced contact.
Using the Play store
I was forced to sign up for a gmail account, which is normal. I declined to "keep this phone backed up with my Google Account". I then went in Settings > Account and disabled sync for everything, including Contacts. I also disabled background sync in the power controls.
Adding a contact round 2
I am now unable to add a contact without being forced to sync it with my BS gmail account. When I click "Add Contact" in the phone app, a dialog says "Your contact will be synced with [email protected]" and my choices are either "OK", "Add other account", or to cancel out by clicking Back.
So I'm already stuck. Once a Play account is created, I am now unable to do something as basic as adding a contact without sending it to Google. Can someone tell me how to get past this obstacle?
That's how Google makes their money! Your only options are to either start using the amazon app store only or side loading apps if you don't want Google involvement. Good luck.
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Why? Like they don't have all your information already? You freely give your information to everyone when you use the internet. Congratulations. You are not that special.
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Eurotrash: always in this sort of discussions there's people like you who essentially advocate shutting up and taking it. "That's how things are" is not an acceptable solution to my problem, or I would not have made this post. There IS a way around the creeping, and someone knows it. My last resort is blocking every Google service from accessing the Internet except Play. I'm asking here because I'm hoping there's a less extreme solution that other people can use.
Gotzadroid: I will hold out for a better solution. Amazon appstore will likely be limited. Sideloading is not possible because many devs don't provide APKs
I know you can get an app to block individual permissions of other apps: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.stericson.permissions
It requires root. Not sure about the contacts and other stuff you wanted to block, im assuming you've disabled location services.
Why not try flashing like cm10 and not flashing gapps so no Google apps? Then just manually downloading the apps apks and sideload the ones you need?
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Didn't think my post lacked clarity, so hopefully this will be clearer:
My ONLY problem right now (we'll leave the rest for later) is that the Phone app, an essential app if I want to use my phone for making calls, an app that isn't even part of Gapps, doesn't let me add a local contact without sharing it with Google. That's it. Forget everything else in my post.
So my simple question is, how do I add my friend Bob to my contact list, locally in phone memory or on the SIM card or whatever, without telling Google I'm friends with Bob and giving them his phone number?
MachinTrucChose said:
Didn't think my post lacked clarity, so hopefully this will be clearer:
My ONLY problem right now (we'll leave the rest for later) is that the Phone app, an essential app if I want to use my phone for making calls, an app that isn't even part of Gapps, doesn't let me add a local contact without sharing it with Google. That's it. Forget everything else in my post.
So my simple question is, how do I add my friend Bob to my contact list, locally in phone memory or on the SIM card or whatever, without telling Google I'm friends with Bob and giving them his phone number?
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As previously mentioned, try flashing a rom without gapps
OK, try this. Make a dummy gmail account for the play store only. Get all the apps you want and then sign out of gmail. Only sign back in when you want another app. That should keep Google from syncing all your info.
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Michealtbh said:
As previously mentioned, try flashing a rom without gapps
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The Phone app is not a part of gapps. It came on the stock ROM before I flashed gapps on it. I didn't try it before adding gapps, are you saying it will change behavior and no longer prompt me to sync when I try to add a contact?
I gotta go to sleep, I'll do more tests tomorrow evening to test this (and wait for your reply to the above question in case you misread my posts).
If the answer to the above question is yes, this would immediately beg another question: how do I install 3rd party apps from Play without flashing gapps?
gotzaDroid said:
OK, try this. Make a dummy gmail account for the play store only. Get all the apps you want and then sign out of gmail. Only sign back in when you want another app. That should keep Google from syncing all your info.
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That's what I did in the OP (2nd bolded step). I created a dummy account cause Play requires it. That became my main Google account on this phone (since I declined to set up an account prior to that). That's the account Google tries to sync my contacts to when I try to add a contact.
I looked in the Gmail app, there's no way for me to sign out. All I can do is add more accounts.
A similar thread from the galaxy nexus forums: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1589367
However, I'd also be interested in a deeper insight on why you're trying to do this. Fear of the big brother? Or just proving a point?
We know before buying an android phone that everything is tied to that Gmail address; now you want to cut that tie but maintain full functionality. Well, that probably doesn't work. And if it at the end does, why going through all that trouble? If a different platform offers all that then..
Why you bought an android phone in the first place? Just curious
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You can try downloading or side loading the app "contacts+" then sign out of your dummy gmail account. You can get a sim to USB hub online and plug your sim into the hub and into PC to add contacts directly to sim. I don't know if there's a way to export contacts to sim anymore unless I'm guessing developers somehow add that feature. So look into CM or another well built ROM and ask some questions.
Good luck
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MachinTrucChose said:
The Phone app is not a part of gapps. It came on the stock ROM before I flashed gapps on it. I didn't try it before adding gapps, are you saying it will change behavior and no longer prompt me to sync when I try to add a contact?
I gotta go to sleep, I'll do more tests tomorrow evening to test this (and wait for your reply to the above question in case you misread my posts).
If the answer to the above question is yes, this would immediately beg another question: how do I install 3rd party apps from Play without flashing gapps?
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Stock rom comes with gapps already loaded.
Most custom roms come without them and they must be flashed separately. If you choose not to flash them you aren't even given an option to sign into your Google account at first boot, so there will obviously be no option to sync your contacts.
Your phone will be crippled and you'll have to find workarounds for many things. I don't think you'll be able to use Maps for example. To install apps you'll have to download and install the apks or use an alternative app market like SlideMe or Amazon
What's there to hide? They're just contacts
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Google doesn't care what your Aunt Bertie's phone number is. All they use the data for is to customize ads for you, and if you're going to be seeing ads anyways they might as well be relevant to you.
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It's disappointing that the thread is taking the direction of Google advocacy rather than finding a technical solution to my problem, hopefully this post answers your questions and we can stop arguing about this.
Drakkula4 said:
You can try downloading or side loading the app "contacts+" then sign out of your dummy gmail account.
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How do I sign out of my dummy gmail account?
Vangelis13 said:
A similar thread from the galaxy nexus forums: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1589367
However, I'd also be interested in a deeper insight on why you're trying to do this. Fear of the big brother? Or just proving a point?
We know before buying an android phone that everything is tied to that Gmail address; now you want to cut that tie but maintain full functionality. Well, that probably doesn't work. And if it at the end does, why going through all that trouble? If a different platform offers all that then..
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Nope, not full functionality. I can avoid using all gapps. The only required Google service is the Play store, which is the primary gateway to non-Google apps. I would use Email over Gmail, Navfree over Maps, etc.
The next paragraph is meant as a reply to the 5 posts essentially saying "tinfoil hat, trust Google!".
This is supposed to be an open phone, allowing the user to do what they want, compared to the big bad iOS. That's why I bought it. Now I find out Google is insisting on taking something extremely private (my social graph) even when I don't want to give it to them. I respect my friends' privacy, and I don't want an intersection of my online and offline lives being made by some 3rd party with intentions I don't trust. The insistence is starting to creep me out. You can provide convenience and still respect basic privacy, look at Mozilla with Firefox Sync: even they don't see the data you sync. I'm not even asking for that much, just respect my wish to draw the line at real-life stuff. I guess I shouldn't be surprised, this is the company banning people using pseudonyms on Google+.
The most disappointing thing in all this, is that you have 5000 custom ROMs being developed, which mainly differ in pointless GUI BS like scroll animation speed. Not a single one of those projects thought to provide a way to make the phone usable without giving up extremely private data. AFAIK only 3 guys are working on privacy stuff, and even those guys' patches and apps don't protect you from the Eye of Google.
chrisrozon said:
Google doesn't care what your Aunt Bertie's phone number is. All they use the data for is to customize ads for you, and if you're going to be seeing ads anyways they might as well be relevant to you.
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What if I don't want tailored ads? Or what if I only want tailored ads by tracking the online activity I'm willing to submit to them, and I feel it should be my my right to draw a line? Many people are not comfortable seeing an intersection of online and real life activity. I am one of those people.
MachinTrucChose said:
Didn't think my post lacked clarity, so hopefully this will be clearer:
My ONLY problem right now (we'll leave the rest for later) is that the Phone app, an essential app if I want to use my phone for making calls, an app that isn't even part of Gapps, doesn't let me add a local contact without sharing it with Google. That's it. Forget everything else in my post.
So my simple question is, how do I add my friend Bob to my contact list, locally in phone memory or on the SIM card or whatever, without telling Google I'm friends with Bob and giving them his phone number?
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Simple question deserves simple answer, only thing I can think of, go to settings > accounts > google > tap your account email address > and uncheck the things you don't want synced with google.
Hopefully it works and you will just have a local copy of everything then.
Again just flash like cyanogen mod since you have to flash gapps separate. Then don't flash gapps and your phone will have nothing to do with google.
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K9 email apk

Hi, I am looking for a K9 email client apk that works with android 2.1 on the NST. The oldest I found needed Android 4+....
Anyone can point me to a working and safe link?
Thanks!
nrseife said:
Hi, I am looking for a K9 email client apk that works with android 2.1 on the NST. The oldest I found needed Android 4+....
Anyone can point me to a working and safe link?
Thanks!
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According to the K-9 Mail GitHub, the attached version should run on 2.1 (I haven't tried it).
Thanks, unfortunately I get an error "There is a problem parsing the package"....
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nrseife said:
Thanks, unfortunately I get an error "There is a problem parsing the package"....
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Rats.
Google is your friend. Search for the app with a version number that (according to the Wiki) should run on 2.1
Of course, that's what I did, but you might have more luck. Or (hopefully) someone who is using it will see this thread. There are a number of old threads with app packages attached. A copy might be in one of them. I remember people touting it long ago.
Edit: a search of the forum turned up no old copies of the app for me, but I did run across a post complaining about the wake-lock in K9 and Gmail. If you're not wedded to K9, I use a very simple email app which does not skulk in the background waiting for a connection. That means you have to manually check mail. You might want to take a look at it.
nmyshkin said:
Rats.
Google is your friend. Search for the app with a version number that (according to the Wiki) should run on 2.1
Of course, that's what I did, but you might have more luck. Or (hopefully) someone who is using it will see this thread. There are a number of old threads with app packages attached. A copy might be in one of them. I remember people touting it long ago.
Edit: a search of the forum turned up no old copies of the app for me, but I did run across a post complaining about the wake-lock in K9 and Gmail. If you're not wedded to K9, I use a very simple email app which does not skulk in the background waiting for a connection. That means you have to manually check mail. You might want to take a look at it.
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YEs, that email client is working (the email.apk one). I had to set the google account to accept sign-ins from "less-secure" apps though; Also, hotmail does not seem to be working, but at least gmail does.... Thanks!
nrseife said:
YEs, that email client is working (the email.apk one). I had to set the google account to accept sign-ins from "less-secure" apps though; Also, hotmail does not seem to be working, but at least gmail does.... Thanks!
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OK, so never say "never". The attached K9 apk file installs on my NST and displays at least the first page I figure that's worth looking at. BTW, on that first page it states that it does not work with Hotmail....
Anyway, give it a whirl.
nmyshkin said:
OK, so never say "never". The attached K9 apk file installs on my NST and displays at least the first page I figure that's worth looking at. BTW, on that first page it states that it does not work with Hotmail....
Anyway, give it a whirl.
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Thanks!!!
I found an old apk for hotmail and that seems to work (even imports contacts from hotmail)...so I should be all set (re gmail + hotmail)....
Browser (Opera), email (K9 and hotmail), RSS (greader), news (BBC, Engadget,...); readers (kindle; have not tried Google books app yet). a few games (Chess Pro, Landrule, ...), and a few useful utilities (Button Savior, Mathsapp calculator, ...) and the Go Launcher.
Also was a lot of work (finding apk that still work under Android 2.1)....I will probably look into alternative e-readers later this year (such as inkBook Prime and Co)....
nrseife said:
Thanks!!!
Also was a lot of work (finding apk that still work under Android 2.1)....I will probably look into alternative e-readers later this year (such as inkBook Prime and Co)....
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Yep, kind of an interesting scavenger hunt at times. There are two packages of apps which might contain something you'd like to try in this thread.

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