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[Q] MicroUSB Flash Drives

Super-n00b question;
Is there any way of knowing at the moment whether something like this would [or wouldn't] work with the Nexus 10?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Verbatim-44...1_4?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1352379380&sr=1-4
Thanks.

If you get a USB OTG adapter and root the N10 then yes. That's just a normal USB flash drive, like any other.
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Thanks. That has a MicroSD connection of course, so I assume by USB OTG Adapter, you mean something software-wise as opposed to a physical hardware adapter?

Barguast said:
Thanks. That has a MicroSD connection of course, so I assume by USB OTG Adapter, you mean something software-wise as opposed to a physical hardware adapter?
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I think you misunderstand. By "Micro" they mean it's really small. It's still got a standard size USB connector on the end, so you need a USB OTG cable to connect it to the microUSB port on the tablet.
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This is the cable; http://www.amazon.co.uk/T-Flash-Ada...NQXS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1352381003&sr=8-1
This is a better picture of your "micro" adapter: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/customer...PAR5SLVO/B0031YFK5C/ref=cm_ciu_images_pl_link

Sorry to butt in but my Nexus 7 is not rooted and I'm using the OTG adapter with a usb to view/copy photos and more.
There's an app that allows you to use it without root
Free version to test if it woks > Nexus Photo Viewer: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...t.nexususb.viewer&feature=more_from_developer
and the full version is Nexus Media importer

Rage1ofakind said:
Sorry to butt in but my Nexus 7 is not rooted and I'm using the OTG adapter with a usb to view/copy photos and more.
There's an app that allows you to use it without root
Free version to test if it woks > Nexus Photo Viewer: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...t.nexususb.viewer&feature=more_from_developer
and the full version is Nexus Media importer
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That's great news, I was under the impression this app used to require rooting. No difference to me, I'd never touch an unrooted Android device, but great for those who don't like to "fiddle".

alias_neo said:
I think you misunderstand. By "Micro" they mean it's really small. It's still got a standard size USB connector on the end, so you need a USB OTG cable to connect it to the microUSB port on the tablet.
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Ah. Yes, you're right. Thanks for pointing that out!
Just realised I've got the title totally wrong too 'MicroSD' > 'Micro USB'. :silly:

It is unfortunate that the marketing department of some storage manufacturers abuse the term "micro usb flash drive" for regular usb flash drives that are small.
I also hope they some day produce flash drives with native Micro-USB connectors, preferably extending needed enclosure to the sides of the connector, not in length like traditional (even small) flash drives. Even with the upcoming crowd funded MicroSD to Micro-USB adapter, it would always live in fear of accidently breaking it. I'd rather have some 16 or 32 GB Micro-USB stick that is half-moon-shaped and only a few tiny millimeters long, but could extend say 2 centimeters alongside the tablet.

PlanetJumble said:
It is unfortunate that the marketing department of some storage manufacturers abuse the term "micro usb flash drive" for regular usb flash drives that are small.
I also hope they some day produce flash drives with native Micro-USB connectors, preferably extending needed enclosure to the sides of the connector, not in length like traditional (even small) flash drives. Even with the upcoming crowd funded MicroSD to Micro-USB adapter, it would always live in fear of accidently breaking it. I'd rather have some 16 or 32 GB Micro-USB stick that is half-moon-shaped and only a few tiny millimeters long, but could extend say 2 centimeters alongside the tablet.
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It is unfortunate, what would be nice, is something that plugs all the way in, and then fits against the body of the device so it's snug and protected with no chance of breaking or getting knocked off, wrapping slightly around the contour. I'm pretty sure now I think about it, that this is what you meant by "half moon", perhaps "crescent moon" would be a better term?

Erm.. yes, I was struggling to find the right words to describe what I had in mind. Whatever has to be outside of the connector due to technical reasons should offer as little added profile with as few edges as possible.

Rage1ofakind said:
Sorry to butt in but my Nexus 7 is not rooted and I'm using the OTG adapter with a usb to view/copy photos and more.
There's an app that allows you to use it without root
Free version to test if it woks > Nexus Photo Viewer: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...t.nexususb.viewer&feature=more_from_developer
and the full version is Nexus Media importer
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Is this legal? Well, from Google's point of view anyway cause it's up to them to allow or take down such app. I'm not into rooting for warranty concerns, so how sure is that this app will be supported/left untouched? Major buying point unrooted external storage access for me.

As all the app does is mount the external storage and copying or streaming data from it, I can't see anything illegal there.

Rooting isn't illegal, nor are any apps that use it, the app isn't going anywhere, at worst you will lose warranty, but to be fair, it's a nexus device, you're kind of expected to root it.
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"at worst you will lose warranty" - yeah, that's exactly what I don't want with a $500 device.
Does mentioned app enable you to browse storage and play content with whatever player you choose?

BoneXDA said:
"at worst you will lose warranty" - yeah, that's exactly what I don't want with a $500 device.
Does mentioned app enable you to browse storage and play content with whatever player you choose?
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It's easy enough to unroot, nobody need ever know you did it and technically voided it. Like I said, that's worst case.
As for the app, never used it personally so ill let someone else chime in.
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The app he asked about isn't working with root at all (so no write access). Perfectly legit not to root if he can live with the things he can't do then.

BoneXDA said:
Is this legal? Well, from Google's point of view anyway cause it's up to them to allow or take down such app. I'm not into rooting for warranty concerns, so how sure is that this app will be supported/left untouched? Major buying point unrooted external storage access for me.
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Perfectly legal. My brother watches movies and episodes from his external 1tb hard drive (A powered one).

OTG cable work with Nexus 10? What's a good one? Thx

Anyone have a link to a good cable? And will and USB flash drive work with it?
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darkstar765 said:
Anyone have a link to a good cable? And will and USB flash drive work with it?
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Would also like to know if you can use USB2GO with the nexus...

Any OTG cable will work.. don't pay $20 for a cable that is only worth $1.. unless you're buying like 5 or more in a pack.. Amazon got some good ones for like a dollar and they ship from the States
Also the kernel will have to support USB host for OTG to work.. not sure if the stock kernel does

So do external storages work, unrooted?

If you don't root you can get an app that lets you view,down load or stream video files or documents from stick drives or card readers.It does not allow you to write to the cards however.It works great for those things.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.homeysoft.nexususb.importer
There is a free version that only does photos.I suggest using it first to test and see how you like it.The above version is a $3 app so make sure the free one works before buying the other. jmo
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...iwiY29tLmhvbWV5c29mdC5uZXh1c3VzYi52aWV3ZXIiXQ..
If you need to write to a card you will have to be rooted and wait for them to iron out the multi-user problems with the 4.2 update before the stick-mount app will work again.It is broken at present but once working again will require root to mount the sd card so files can be transferred via a file explorer app to the sd card.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.stickmount

Does it have enough power for a usb hard disk?
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It seems that CIFS is also an issue with 4.2 ... Google must REALLY want us using Play to seemingly block the CRAP out of doing any R/W to external sources.
Of course it could just be a "side effect" of the new Google "security feature" that locks USB access to the process that spawned it.
I want to know how the Nexus Media app is getting away with it. Maybe it's because everything is IN the app - so the USB access continues to work.
I dunno ... all I DO know is that my Nexus 7 is staying on 4.1.2 until it's fixed.

Tried with the one I have from the galaxy s3 and it was not recognized. The sgs3 is rooted stock. When I plug it into the galaxy, it immediately sees the USB host connected
Edit- tried it with a USB mouse and it worked fine
Kevin

I would like to know more information about this matter too. I'm really new to otg stuff, but I do know that you need to be rooted un the nexus 7 for it to work fine.

I think it needs to be rooted to use USB OTG. i have a 2$ USB OTG working fine with my unrooted S3 but on the nexus 10 it won't regconize.

Just tested it with a 5 bucks OTG, so far:
Mouse razor naga: OK.
USB keyboard microsoft: OK.
Pendrive Kingston 4gb: nothing happens.
For me it's ok I just wanted to use it for the keyboard. No problem at all.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1994299

This is a good OTG cable. Works on anything that supports OTG. Lifetime warranty, good price, super fast shipping. I have a few and use them on all my devices.
http://www.amazon.com/Electronics-Micro-USB-OTG-Cable/dp/B005GGBYJ4
Enjoy! Happy Holidays all!!

+1 on that cable. Like the angle & not too short or long. Nice & sturdy.
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I'm looking for a OTG cable/adapter in the UK and wanted to whether mini USB OTG adapter will work with flash drives and external drives, or do I an micro USB OTG adapter? What's the difference?

Bought this one and it works but I wouldn't recommend it because the male end that goes into the Nexus10 is a little too long and creates a loose connection. I'm gonna order another type tonight.
Stickmount works great on my rooted nexus10.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=300803544652

I have a otg cable that works fine on my S3 but I plug it into the nexus and I get nothing. The S3 auto detects the cable alone but nothing at all happens when I plug it into the nexus no matter what, if anything, is plugged into it. I just want to use it for mouse and keyboard.
Think I should buy another cable to try out or am I missing something?

A cheap OTG cable that came bundled with a $60 tablet my mom ordered works on my Nexus 10.
On an unrelated note, Samsung should of bundled a USB OTG cable.

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faulkton said:
I have a otg cable that works fine on my S3 but I plug it into the nexus and I get nothing. The S3 auto detects the cable alone but nothing at all happens when I plug it into the nexus no matter what, if anything, is plugged into it. I just want to use it for mouse and keyboard.
Think I should buy another cable to try out or am I missing something?
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Just install nexus importer on Google play. Nexus doesn't natively support usb otg like s3
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AspenMan said:
This is a good OTG cable. Works on anything that supports OTG. Lifetime warranty, good price, super fast shipping. I have a few and use them on all my devices.
http://www.amazon.com/Electronics-Micro-USB-OTG-Cable/dp/B005GGBYJ4
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DO NOT GET THIS ONE!
I have the same one and it completely blocks the headphone port which is right under the micro-usb port. The micro-usb plugs in with the flat part facing you / the screen so this one would obviously angle down and over the headphone port. Find one that is either straight or angles the other way.

[Q] support for HDMI and USB OTG

im going to buy that phone but do it supposrt that? i already got hdmi and usb one from my N7000 note
wish it does(((
this phone got low storage and i really like this phone

sorry yes it doesnt have OTG support its horrible it would be awesome specially for this guy
im thinking if i get out of space

Yes it does have OTG but you need an external power.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2181820

thanks but i dont think i can find this in iran and i already got a cable for my note
anyway i dont really care about this

woops sorry! i tought its a cable is it safe:?

For HDMI out I don't think your cable will work. Majority of older phones use mhl for HDMI out but the n4 uses slimport and mhl cables will not work
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1. Nexus 4 uses Slimport, not MHL. You'd need to buy a new cable anyway.
2. OTG only works with external power, and cannot work simultaneously with Slimport (No HDMI+OTG).
3. There is Miracast, but it sucks.

damn i bough cable wanted to experience playing games on hd tv but my phone bricked after that no chance let me see if that works whit htc one s (of my father)
anyway mine got a hdmi input and a power input and a micro-usb output
and slim port is it better? never heard about it

ziddey said:
1. Nexus 4 uses Slimport, not MHL. You'd need to buy a new cable anyway.
2. OTG only works with external power, and cannot work simultaneously with Slimport (No HDMI+OTG).
3. There is Miracast, but it sucks.
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is using OTG safe whit that kernel:?

kamranhaghighi said:
is using OTG safe whit that kernel:?
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NO

o...ok...!

ziddey said:
NO
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anyway is it better than others? i mean the slimport! why did they use it:?

nvm its less power and... im trying to see if i can connect another way or..

ziddey said:
1. Nexus 4 uses Slimport, not MHL. You'd need to buy a new cable anyway.
2. OTG only works with external power, and cannot work simultaneously with Slimport (No HDMI+OTG).
3. There is Miracast, but it sucks.
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I just got the Rocket fish Miracast dongle from best buy. Works flawlessly. Streaming Netflix, HBO, CNN, etc. For gaming not useful, but for a media center experience, is perfect.
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thanks a lot anyway this is just a single drop nexus 4 is really amazing i would buy a slimport maybe i found oh ok i will play games in its 4.7 inch display
and i will do something for storage maybe use LAN in es explorer whit my PC is there anyway suck at this to acsses or files or something using network(i mean home network)

Disk Drive for N7

Does anyone know if the USB 2.0 SLIM EXTERNAL DVD ROM CD-RW COMBO DRIVE WRITER BY SANOXY Work with our first gen N7 16 gig with a OTG cable hooked up to it?
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No, not enough power is output from OTG to spin the disc.

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No, not enough power is output from OTG to spin the disc.
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I don't really know how it is powered the only thing that I do know is it's only USB
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Even if there was enough juice to spin the disk. I would think drivers would be needed for it work with your N7.

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Even if there was enough juice to spin the disk. I would think drivers would be needed for it work with your N7.
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Well, I have Ubuntu installed on the tablet, which has the ability to read/write to a disc, only if it's on a powered USB hub, that would be the only practical method as far as I know.

Darklust said:
Well, I have Ubuntu installed on the tablet, which has the ability to read/write to a disc, only if it's on a powered USB hub, that would be the only practical method as far as I know.
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I found one at Amazon. com for about $14.00 it takes 2 to 3 days to get to you it is made by Sanoxy the same people who makes our OTG cable but I think that it is just a PC and DVD player for our tablet and they claim that it is working on our NEXUS 7 can't wait to try this out and I will let you know G.B.Y.
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clay347 said:
I found one at Amazon. com for about $14.00 it takes 2 to 3 days to get to you it is made by Sanoxy the same people who makes our OTG cable but I think that it is just a PC and DVD player for our tablet and they claim that it is working on our NEXUS 7 can't wait to try this out and I will let you know G.B.Y.
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If anyone does give this a try please report back.

It should work fine, using ubuntu 13.04 on the Nexus 7. Provided, you are using a powered hub, or a modified kernel that allows host mode charging, together with a "y" cable.
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OTG w/ WD My Passport

First off, I am using Resurrection ROM ( latest) with no kernel modifications, just the stock kernel that came with the ROM itself. My question is: Is it possible to hook my phone up to an external hard-drive as another source of storage? How do we use the OTG function. I've never used it before. I got the OTG cable from NewEgg and the product description said you can hook it up to mouses,keyboards,etc.
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I'd be careful - the power requirements for WD MyP's are pretty high - I'm not sure that the phone can output that much power from the USB port.
Your phone, or your HDD, or both could be damaged!

I too use a wd passport, mine is 1tb and it works using otg cable. Depending on what you format the drive you may need stick mount from chainfire to use it.

The biggest issue is going to be power.
A 1TB drive may kill your phone.

I would also agree with tech-head and wiltron. Even though we can power and use the drive, I would use it only as needed and not leave it connected longer than required.

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I'd be careful - the power requirements for WD MyP's are pretty high - I'm not sure that the phone can output that much power from the USB port.
Your phone, or your HDD, or both could be damaged!
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That's what I read and initially thought..I'll need a powered USB hub...
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jxcorex28 said:
That's what I read and initially thought..I'll need a powered USB hub...
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That would be the best option.

There's this 256gb flash drive for under a hundred bucks.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00YHL1RJG/
Do you really need 1TB?

Not at all...I'll check out that option? I've heard that others have had issues with OTG though...seems to be a hit or miss
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