[Q] How Much Space Recovered After Rooting & Uninstalling Bloatware? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin

For those of you that have the 16GB AND have ROOTED stock, how much more space did you regain by "debloating" the phone and uninstalling all the 3rd party unnecessary apps?
Not that I'm out of space, but after I installed everything I needed, I'm down to 7.15GB (from 9 GB).

Faluzure said:
For those of you that have the 16GB AND have ROOTED stock, how much more space did you regain by "debloating" the phone and uninstalling all the 3rd party unnecessary apps?
Not that I'm out of space, but after I installed everything I needed, I'm down to 7.15GB (from 9 GB).
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If you're on AT&T I would strongly recommend just freezing them. Until we have a recovery, finding out you debloated something you need will mean doing a factory reset (if you're lucky).

Debloating does not give you any space
All system apps are in the system partition...so whether the apps are installed or not the system partition doesn't change and remains unusable
You will have to wait for a dev to change the partition size
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Ah I see. Thanks guys. I was just asking to figure out whether I should swap my 16GB for the 32GB. Not sure if the near $85 cost is worth it.

Faluzure said:
Ah I see. Thanks guys. I was just asking to figure out whether I should swap my 16GB for the 32GB. Not sure if the near $85 cost is worth it.
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Dude, you could get a 64GB sdcard and throw it in your s4 16gig for less than the $85 AND not have to go through the hassle of exchange...That is 80 GB obvious not all usable, but still that's a lot on a phone....

rb420 said:
Dude, you could get a 64GB sdcard and throw it in your s4 16gig for less than the $85 AND not have to go through the hassle of exchange...That is 80 GB obvious not all usable, but still that's a lot on a phone....
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Oh I do have the 64GB SDcard. According to this post, App2SD isn't officially supported in JB: [ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40740150&postcount=6 ]. I know there are some apps that let you do it after you root (such as FolderMount & TiBackup). But if it's going away per Google design, I would just rather not relying on App2SD.
I was just curious.

Faluzure said:
Oh I do have the 64GB SDcard. According to this post, App2SD isn't officially supported in JB: [ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40740150&postcount=6 ]. I know there are some apps that let you do it after you root (such as FolderMount & TiBackup). But if it's going away per Google design, I would just assume to keep doing it.
I was just curious.
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Cool. I get where you are coming from. I just picked up the 16GB version today. Seems like 16 GB should be enough for all the apps etc, then I'm just going to put all of my Media on my SD card.
That being said, I think I am going to take the plunge and root it today and try flashing the custom recovery. (fingers crossed)
Google really is become less and less open as time passes eh?

rb420 said:
Cool. I get where you are coming from. I just picked up the 16GB version today. Seems like 16 GB should be enough for all the apps etc, then I'm just going to put all of my Media on my SD card.
That being said, I think I am going to take the plunge and root it today and try flashing the custom recovery. (fingers crossed)
Google really is become less and less open as time passes eh?
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Yeah. I'm not the kind of phone user who has apps that uses gigs and gigs of data (AKA games). However one of the things I really liked about Android was the App2SD option, as there are some apps that I rarely use (but still use) that I'd rather put on SD. I never really cared how fast they loaded as long as I had them installed.
I'm still going to root but I wanted to ask around. Still, 16GB was much larger than on my previous phone (which had 1 Gig free) but wouldn't install anything after you got down to 200MB free.
I'm very happy with this phone.

rb420 said:
Cool. I get where you are coming from. I just picked up the 16GB version today. Seems like 16 GB should be enough for all the apps etc, then I'm just going to put all of my Media on my SD card.
That being said, I think I am going to take the plunge and root it today and try flashing the custom recovery. (fingers crossed)
Google really is become less and less open as time passes eh?
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I hope you have a Canadian model because if you try flashing on an AT&T model with a locked bootloader you will have a nice brick. Or it wont let you flash. Either way, I hope you have a canadian model or one with an unlocked bootloader.

geoldr said:
I hope you have a Canadian model because if you try flashing on an AT&T model with a locked bootloader you will have a nice brick. Or it wont let you flash. Either way, I hope you have a canadian model or one with an unlocked bootloader.
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I do, thank you. With Bell mobility.

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AT&T S4 not 16gb internal?

Anyone else connect their phone to a PC and have the internal storage say 9.51GB and not 16GB? Does the phone use up over 6GB for the OS and stock apps? What gives?
highaltitude said:
Anyone else connect their phone to a PC and have the internal storage say 9.51GB and not 16GB? Does the phone use up over 6GB for the OS and stock apps? What gives?
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I show 9.62 available on mine. It is kind of odd, but they did add a TON of bloatware. Once we get root and can remove those apps, we should be able to recapture quite a bit back.
highaltitude said:
Anyone else connect their phone to a PC and have the internal storage say 9.51GB and not 16GB? Does the phone use up over 6GB for the OS and stock apps? What gives?
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Could be like the HOX and have around 10 for whatever storage and 6 dedicated for app storage and software/rom
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Yeah...seems pretty typical for a phone. ..they arent lieing as they never said 16gb useable...
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Yeah mine shows 9.62 total space and 8.48 available after installing my apps from previous phone, kinda sucks but at least there is an SD slot.
I was curious so I checked my old Sprint GNEX 32GB, it also has a chunk missing, about 7.5GB missing, so it is similar.
It would be nice if they listed the missing space as Reserved or System etc. instead of not showing it.
Yup guys 16GB total internal. The ROM and software has to sit somewhere on there. And AT&T has added so much crap to it I'm not surprised. But thats what the SD card slot is for yeah?
The stock apps seem to use up at least 1GB, plus any data they have.
Unsure about the system, but even the system for CyanogenMod 10.1 seemed to be around 600-800MB with all cache/data included. With TouchWIZ on these phones and all the extra bloat, it wouldn't surprise me if there were at least another gig in there.
Aou said:
The stock apps seem to use up at least 1GB, plus any data they have.
Unsure about the system, but even the system for CyanogenMod 10.1 seemed to be around 600-800MB with all cache/data included. With TouchWIZ on these phones and all the extra bloat, it wouldn't surprise me if there were at least another gig in there.
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Exactly. I heard the ROM file for the S4 was like 1.2 gigs or something like that. That's without cache and whatever else it needs to do.
I remember when I had the S3 the ROM file was like 800 megs for TW. And for AOSP it was like 250.
Even with a debloated rom its gonna be the same as the system partition is already set regardless of whats on it...just so you guys know of course it is posssiboe for a dev to tweak partition amounts...but they typically dont unless necessary
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Not possible to move apps to SD

Is this something new for phones? It's pretty ridiculous, and kind of makes me wish I had waited for the 32gb version if I had known such a simple feature would be gone :l
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Denomenance said:
Is this something new for phones? It's pretty ridiculous, and kind of makes me wish I had waited for the 32gb version if I had known such a simple feature would be gone :l
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Hi,
It's a 4.2.2 "Feature"
It's for the greater good. New generation NAND smokes microSD performance, and you don't wanna bottleneck your device by multitasking from SD. On the other hand 16GB should be dropped entirely, we're talking very minimal cost difference for Samsung, so why not start at 32gigs or 64 and go all the way up to 256? This is HD era, nothing comes in small size.
BoneXDA said:
It's for the greater good. New generation NAND smokes microSD performance, and you don't wanna bottleneck your device by multitasking from SD. On the other hand 16GB should be dropped entirely, we're talking very minimal cost difference for Samsung, so why not start at 32gigs or 64 and go all the way up to 256? This is HD era, nothing comes in small size.
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Hi,
Also the "16GB" is actually only 9.15GB on my phone.
The system eats a fair portion of it.
Before 4.2.2 could you move to sd without rooting then? And will it really kill memory card If i rooted and use folder mount
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If you can't install apps on sdcard
How much space is available for applications in phone?
I'm using gs2 now, and it only has 2gmail for appear from internal memory.
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Youre looking at 9Gb for 16
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So what to do now? :-/ I bought the "16" GB phone being a former Apple user with they expectation of "hey cool, I got an 32 SD card lying around, no problem", when now I end up in a situation where I am expected to do exactly what?? Uninstall all my apps and never download any music?
Still taking any and all suggestions...
knowledgeworker said:
So what to do now? :-/ I bought the phone being a former Apple user with they expectation of "hey cool, I got an 32 SD card lying around, no problem", when now I end up in a situation where I am expected to do exactly what?? Uninstall all my apps and never download any music?
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That's the reason I'm waiting for the 32GB version.
I did the same with the Galaxy S III though I can't understand why they delay the release of the 32GB that much.. I'm pretty sure a lot of people are waiting for that one, right?
And btw, you can put your music on the µSD card, it's just the installed apps that are a problem.
Thanks, yeah you are right. Not sure though if some apps will be smart enough to route downloaded music to my SD card??
While we're at it: My problem is basically the "cloudsync" and more so the "DocumentSync" folder, the latter is > 6 GB large! Anyone knows what that is?
I want to reduce this size, my phone is brand-new!
knowledgeworker said:
Thanks, yeah you are right. Not sure though if some apps will be smart enough to route downloaded music to my SD card??
While we're at it: My problem is basically the "cloudsync" and more so the "DocumentSync" folder, the latter is > 6 GB large! Anyone knows what that is?
I want to reduce this size, my phone is brand-new!
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Cloudsync syncs your pics etc with Dropbox or its samsung account
Swyped from another galaxy
Thanks, indeed. I deactivated all that cloud-syncing nonsense, which solved my problem for now. Now I have a few weeks or months until I have to think again what to do. :-/
Is "Swyped from another galaxy" that a joke on the Samsung Galaxy keyboard system? lol
You're probably looking at 24gb on the 32gb version so a bunch more memory.
Most people will in fact be fine with 9gb though, power users who download a lot of really inefficient apps that cache a lot of things and require a lot of storage should get the 32gb version. I personally will be fine with the 16gb version.
You may be right. I got 2.1 GB of apps for 151 apps, which averages out at 14 MB per app, while I had the feeling that most of my apps are less than 8 MB, oh well. -.-
I won't download any more apps though, but I am sure photographs and stuff will quickly snatch up the remaining 5 GB of space that I freed now...
Will try to find a setting to put my photos on the SD card by default. Any tips (or links to a thread / tutorial about that) are appreciated.
Mithrandir007 said:
That's the reason I'm waiting for the 32GB version.
I did the same with the Galaxy S III though I can't understand why they delay the release of the 32GB that much.. I'm pretty sure a lot of people are waiting for that one, right?
And btw, you can put your music on the µSD card, it's just the installed apps that are a problem.
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Yeah i am also waiting for the 32GB version because of the same reason.
my htc one s 16gb has 2gb dedicated to apps. for me plenty atm. that's independent of the 9.93 internal sdcard, don't know if s4 is same. however, as mentioned, 16gb phones are too small now days and i won't pay for the s4 till it gets 32gb on att and black--
also don't think i can post links to other forums per xda. but if you google "att 32gb s4", there is a link to an att forum specifically for the 32gb release and an active att moderator--just fyi
Mithrandir007 said:
That's the reason I'm waiting for the 32GB version.
I did the same with the Galaxy S III though I can't understand why they delay the release of the 32GB that much.. I'm pretty sure a lot of people are waiting for that one, right?
And btw, you can put your music on the µSD card, it's just the installed apps that are a problem.
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Yea, im waiting 32 gb version. :laugh:
16 gb (9.xgb or 8.8gb) is simply ridiculous
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knowledgeworker said:
You may be right. I got 2.1 GB of apps for 151 apps, which averages out at 14 MB per app, while I had the feeling that most of my apps are less than 8 MB, oh well. -.-
I won't download any more apps though, but I am sure photographs and stuff will quickly snatch up the remaining 5 GB of space that I freed now...
Will try to find a setting to put my photos on the SD card by default. Any tips (or links to a thread / tutorial about that) are appreciated.
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Really? cant u save on the sd card by defalut ????
First of all.. If u want to store ur camera photos on sd card use camera zoom fx.. It's a very good camera app and there u can choose where to store the photos
The second.. U have 8,8 gb on stock firmware if u install a custom rom in a few weeks it will be more free space because of some bloatware installed on the stock and files we dont need i think.. Let the dev's do there great job
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knowledgeworker said:
You may be right. I got 2.1 GB of apps for 151 apps, which averages out at 14 MB per app, while I had the feeling that most of my apps are less than 8 MB, oh well. -.-
I won't download any more apps though, but I am sure photographs and stuff will quickly snatch up the remaining 5 GB of space that I freed now...
Will try to find a setting to put my photos on the SD card by default. Any tips (or links to a thread / tutorial about that) are appreciated.
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For photos there's a setting in the camera app which let's you select which storage to use. If it's not there use a file explorer to copy your photos across to your sd card.
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[Q] Move to SD Card

I have just moved from the Galaxy S2 across to the brand new S4, and so far it seems great. A really beautiful phone and generally pretty happy.
BUT.....
When I was using the S2, it was a snap to move apps and files across from the phone storage to the SD Card storage. Well, I am stumped as to how to do this with the S4!!!?? It doesn't seem rational to me to have a phone that will allow you to expand the storage with an SD Card, but then not allow you to actually move anything across. That's like Woolworths giving you a shopping trolley and then not allow you to put anything in the trolley?? That is nuts.. So it must be me...
Could anyone out there please give me a heads up on how to move apps across to the SD Card? I only have 16 gig in phone storage and that is getting eaten up real quick with apps and bloatware, so I really need to be able to use the 32 gig SD card I have installed.
Thanks in advance...
rosse912003 said:
I have just moved from the Galaxy S2 across to the brand new S4, and so far it seems great. A really beautiful phone and generally pretty happy.
BUT.....
When I was using the S2, it was a snap to move apps and files across from the phone storage to the SD Card storage. Well, I am stumped as to how to do this with the S4!!!?? It doesn't seem rational to me to have a phone that will allow you to expand the storage with an SD Card, but then not allow you to actually move anything across. That's like Woolworths giving you a shopping trolley and then not allow you to put anything in the trolley?? That is nuts.. So it must be me...
Could anyone out there please give me a heads up on how to move apps across to the SD Card? I only have 16 gig in phone storage and that is getting eaten up real quick with apps and bloatware, so I really need to be able to use the 32 gig SD card I have installed.
Thanks in advance...
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The option was removed since Jelly Bean unfortunately.
That's exactly the reason why I don't understand their choice of releasing a 16GB version (of which only 9GB remain usable).
I bought the 32GB S3 for this reason, and I'm waiting for the 32GB version of the S4 as well, if they ever decide to release it.
If you root your device, there are still options like DirectoryBind, but they aren't perfect, and I think we shouldn't have to mess with stuff like that on a flagship device.
Directorybind is broken at the moment. The app foldermount however is very close to fixing this issue.
The developer is working very hard on getting it fixen and is almost there (he's using my phone for debugging)
It seems that samsung has fuzzled it up themself. Not Google.
If you are rooted there still ain't no way to move files to the external sdcard. But it won't be long till that's fixen and that's the good news!
Mithrandir007 said:
The option was removed since Jelly Bean unfortunately.
That's exactly the reason why I don't understand their choice of releasing a 16GB version (of which only 9GB remain usable).
I bought the 32GB S3 for this reason, and I'm waiting for the 32GB version of the S4 as well, if they ever decide to release it.
If you root your device, there are still options like DirectoryBind, but they aren't perfect, and I think we shouldn't have to mess with stuff like that on a flagship device.
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Thanks for that info. I didn't think it was a Jelly Bean issue because the S2 received the JB upgrade and it was still able to transfer to the ext SD card. But obviously it is different for the recent phones. But I don't get it?? Why make a phone that can expand storage through an ext SD Card and then restrict the transfer of apps to that storage?? Is it me or is that a little crazy??
Sammath said:
Directorybind is broken at the moment. The app foldermount however is very close to fixing this issue.
The developer is working very hard on getting it fixen and is almost there (he's using my phone for debugging)
It seems that samsung has fuzzled it up themself. Not Google.
If you are rooted there still ain't no way to move files to the external sdcard. But it won't be long till that's fixen and that's the good news!
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Great news!! Hopefully these trail blazers will have good luck in their coding.
rosse912003 said:
Thanks for that info. I didn't think it was a Jelly Bean issue because the S2 received the JB upgrade and it was still able to transfer to the ext SD card. But obviously it is different for the recent phones. But I don't get it?? Why make a phone that can expand storage through an ext SD Card and then restrict the transfer of apps to that storage?? Is it me or is that a little crazy??
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No problem.
I don't get it either.
The microSD slot is great, but advertising it as a replacement of the internal memory is wrong (so many people seem to think they can have a 80GB phone if they add the microSD to their 16GB phone, but don't know the limitations).
32GB should be the minimum internal memory for a 2013 flagship device.
Mithrandir007 said:
No problem.
I don't get it either.
The microSD slot is great, but advertising it as a replacement of the internal memory is wrong (so many people seem to think they can have a 80GB phone if they add the microSD to their 16GB phone, but don't know the limitations).
32GB should be the minimum internal memory for a 2013 flagship device.
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Guess what?? I am one of those people!!! After knowing about the restrictions, I feel a little cheated and agree 100% with you that 32 gig is the entry level storage considering all the bloatware Sammy has included.
rosse912003 said:
Guess what?? I am one of those people!!! After knowing about the restrictions, I feel a little cheated and agree 100% with you that 32 gig is the entry level storage considering all the bloatware Sammy has included.
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Indeed, I can understand that you'd feel cheated
Hopefully they release the 32GB soon and maybe you can replace yours with the 32GB version.
I'm using Android Tuner Free to move big apps (eg games like Deadspace ) across to the SD card. Free app, go into App Mgr, select the app you want to move, click the manage button, choose the move button, select SD-Link. It's working fine for me so far...
The foldermount app should work now on the galaxy s4! Go to his xda topic where you can get the latest version! Yay
You also have to reinstall apps if you want to update them, since the app will not be scripted to support the bind when installing.
Mykew said:
I'm using Android Tuner Free to move big apps (eg games like Deadspace ) across to the SD card. Free app, go into App Mgr, select the app you want to move, click the manage button, choose the move button, select SD-Link. It's working fine for me so far...
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I don't get a move button when I try ... do I need to do something up front?
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that s great but is there a way to exchange the whole sdcard into the extsdcard ??? not just mounting specific folders

64 GB Storage - Internal Listings > Resolved

Howdy All,
So I'm a little sketchy of this, and about to be slightly ticked off. Got my One in the mail today, the 64gb Sandstone Black model. The packaging says 64gb etc, but on the phone under storage it's coming up 'short.' So anyone with a 64gb can confirm it's short based on their device, before I contact OnePlus? Unless it's just reading the storage wrong...
See attached pic.
Is it the Chinese version?
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The Jack of Clubs said:
Is it the Chinese version?
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I don't believe so, it states the 'global version' on the box. And came with the US charger, so I'm confident it's the US version. Additionally i pull LTE speeds with Tmobile.
read somewhere you need to flash some file for the correct partition to show, ill see if i can find the post.
not the exact post but similar. http://forum.cyanogenmod.org/topic/96122-64gb-version-shows-only-12gb-in-cm11s/
when flashing userdata use the file "userdata_64g.img" to allocate 64GB partition for the user data.
teh roxxorz said:
I don't believe so, it states the 'global version' on the box. And came with the US charger, so I'm confident it's the US version. Additionally i pull LTE speeds with Tmobile.
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Did you flash any ROM on that ? Is it really 64 GB ( showing as 16GB )
If it is due to some s/w issue ...you can try a solution as below...
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take backup and go to fastboot mode and flash only userdata_64g.img from cm11s stock rom
(You need to check the lock status of the bootloader , it should be unlocked to flash img from fastboot)
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fastboot flash userdata userdata_64g.img
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contact oneplus. its not the first time they sent out the wrong storage size phone. should look like this:
But did they send black with 16gb in the past?
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IIIPowerIII said:
But did they send black with 16gb in the past?
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i dont know. i know they sent out white ones with 64gb before.
teh roxxorz said:
Howdy All,
So I'm a little sketchy of this, and about to be slightly ticked off. Got my One in the mail today, the 64gb Sandstone Black model. The packaging says 64gb etc, but on the phone under storage it's coming up 'short.' So anyone with a 64gb can confirm it's short based on their device, before I contact OnePlus? Unless it's just reading the storage wrong...
See attached pic.
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Ouch! Seems like you got sent the 16GB variant...
I don't have an OPO, but that's what out looks like from the pic.
ruvy01 said:
read somewhere you need to flash some file for the correct partition to show, ill see if i can find the post.
not the exact post but similar. http://forum.cyanogenmod.org/topic/96122-64gb-version-shows-only-12gb-in-cm11s/
when flashing userdata use the file "userdata_64g.img" to allocate 64GB partition for the user data.
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Thanks, I will try that.
Mnt-XDA said:
Did you flash any ROM on that ? Is it really 64 GB ( showing as 16GB )
If it is due to some s/w issue ...you can try a solution as below...
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take backup and go to fastboot mode and flash only userdata_64g.img from cm11s stock rom
(You need to check the lock status of the bootloader , it should be unlocked to flash img from fastboot)
Command
fastboot flash userdata userdata_64g.img
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Thank you for that, really appreciate it.
The Jack of Clubs said:
contact oneplus. its not the first time they sent out the wrong storage size phone. should look like this:
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Exactly. I did contact their support, cause I knew it wasn't right.
Oomahey said:
Ouch! Seems like you got sent the 16GB variant...
I don't have an OPO, but that's what out looks like from the pic.
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Well, I'll do the above, and see if it allocates, otherwise I knew something was wrong.
Thanks all.
Just wanted to thank everyone - flashing the 64gb userdata img restored the correct partition.
teh roxxorz said:
Just wanted to thank everyone - flashing the 64gb userdata img restored the correct partition.
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So my suggestion worked !!!
Enjoy you phone with more space...
While I'm glad you got it resolved, I do think it's kinda crummy that you even had to do this in the first place. OnePlus clearly has some kinks to work out in their product, and with the other issues that have been reported, I'm really thinking they weren't quite ready for prime time just yet. Mine should be here tomorrow or Saturday, can't wait to find out what problems I'm going to encounter with it.
Just playing a bit a devil's advocate.......
Flashing the 64gb.userdata.img is looking a bit like a voodoo magic.
What if the phone is a 16GB model in reality and OP just tricks the system to "think" it has 64GB on board.....
Suddenly are coming back in my memory all these stories about fake SanDisk SD cards which were flashed
with some kind of images to be mounted in WinExplorer and MacFinder as , let's say, 32GB; but in reality had only 1GB of physical memory.
Or it's not possible to be done on a phone???
Explanations and arguments from more technically educated members are really appreciated!
RalphLauren said:
Just playing a bit a devil's advocate.......
Flashing the 64gb.userdata.img is looking a bit like a voodoo magic.
What if the phone is a 16GB model in reality and OP just tricks the system to "think" it has 64GB on board.....
Suddenly are coming back in my memory all these stories about fake SanDisk SD cards which were flashed
with some kind of images to be mounted in WinExplorer and MacFinder as , let's say, 32GB; but in reality had only 1GB of physical memory.
Or it's not possible to be done on a phone???
Explanations and arguments from more technically educated members are really appreciated!
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thats a good point i was wondering that, to the OP would you mind finding a massive file above 16gb in size and place in onto your phone and tell us if it fits and the phone is indeed 64gb or if it doesn't and its only 16gb
Mnt-XDA said:
So my suggestion worked !!!
Enjoy you phone with more space...
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It did, and again, I really appreciate it.
_MetalHead_ said:
While I'm glad you got it resolved, I do think it's kinda crummy that you even had to do this in the first place. OnePlus clearly has some kinks to work out in their product, and with the other issues that have been reported, I'm really thinking they weren't quite ready for prime time just yet. Mine should be here tomorrow or Saturday, can't wait to find out what problems I'm going to encounter with it.
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Aside from this 'issue,' I haven't had any issues with the phone. Everything works, radios, etc. I haven't had the 'yellow screen' / band issue either. It's pretty solid.
RalphLauren said:
Just playing a bit a devil's advocate.......
Flashing the 64gb.userdata.img is looking a bit like a voodoo magic.
What if the phone is a 16GB model in reality and OP just tricks the system to "think" it has 64GB on board.....
Suddenly are coming back in my memory all these stories about fake SanDisk SD cards which were flashed
with some kind of images to be mounted in WinExplorer and MacFinder as , let's say, 32GB; but in reality had only 1GB of physical memory.
Or it's not possible to be done on a phone???
Explanations and arguments from more technically educated members are really appreciated!
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no_username_available said:
thats a good point i was wondering that, to the OP would you mind finding a massive file above 16gb in size and place in onto your phone and tell us if it fits and the phone is indeed 64gb or if it doesn't and its only 16gb
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Well, I don't think the latter could happen, because like a computer partition, if you had 100gb drive and you did a 50/50 split, it'd be fine. But if you tried to make that 50 a 60gb partition, the system check would scream at you. So it's possible that a flash from the rom from the the toolkit / initial flash had the 16gb partition and over wrote it, leaving the rest 'unavailable.' With the zip you pull the files from it has both user images.
My take on it with schooling and computer knowledge.
A REAL test to do at this point would be if someone has a 16gb model to flash the 64gb user data img and see what happens. In the correct scenario, it should still show up as 16, cause that's greater than it's rated for. In the 'whacky' scenario, OnePlus would have had all the devices on a 64gb chip and just made the partition smaller, not seeing this happen.
teh roxxorz said:
Well, I don't think the latter could happen, because like a computer partition, if you had 100gb drive and you did a 50/50 split, it'd be fine. But if you tried to make that 50 a 60gb partition, the system check would scream at you. So it's possible that a flash from the rom from the the toolkit / initial flash had the 16gb partition and over wrote it, leaving the rest 'unavailable.' With the zip you pull the files from it has both user images.
My take on it with schooling and computer knowledge.
A REAL test to do at this point would be if someone has a 16gb model to flash the 64gb user data img and see what happens. In the correct scenario, it should still show up as 16, cause that's greater than it's rated for. In the 'whacky' scenario, OnePlus would have had all the devices on a 64gb chip and just made the partition smaller, not seeing this happen.
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I'm not convinced because in your example with the computer, you try to partition a correctly imaged drive under working operation system....
So no wonder it would scream at you.
But in your case, the phone is in "unconscious" state and nothing is checking what you are flashing.
You flash whatever image in order to MAKE the operation system to recognize the hardware the way how it's presented by flashed image.
And again, it seems that nothing is checking what you are flashing, because if it would be a check presented, the adb should not allow you to flash 16GB image over your 64GB drive in a first place.
In any case the situation is looking weird, and I would be happy if you get 64GB on board.
But to get a peace of mind, I second the @no_username_available suggestion to load your phone with something above 16 GB trash-hold and see what is going to happen.
RalphLauren said:
I'm not convinced because in your example with the computer, you try to partition a correctly imaged drive under working operation system....
So no wonder it would scream at you.
But in your case, the phone is in "unconscious" state and nothing is checking what you are flashing.
You flash whatever image in order to MAKE the operation system to recognize the hardware the way how it's presented by flashed image.
And again, it seems that nothing is checking what you are flashing, because if it would be a check presented, the adb should not allow you to flash 16GB image over your 64GB drive in a first place.
In any case the situation is looking weird, and I would be happy if you get 64GB on board.
But to get a peace of mind, I second the @no_username_available suggestion to load your phone with something above 16 GB trash-hold and see what is going to happen.
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Well yes, we are talking the same thing regarding the computer and the partition, I just let people connect the dots to show that the One system isn't 'signed' to say the least. And i completely agree with you regarding adb.
Though I can confirm the ''test'' he suggested, as when mine was 'showing' as a 16gb model, with 12 usable and 10gb available, tried dropping 20gb of music on it from my lappy and came up with the typical insufficient storage message.
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I just let people connect the dots to show that the One system isn't 'signed' to say the least.
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That looks spooky....
Makes me think again that there is nothing for free in this world and a double price for all other flagships is a premium for working hardware, software and customer support....
teh roxxorz said:
Though I can confirm the ''test'' he suggested, as when mine was 'showing' as a 16gb model, with 12 usable and 10gb available, tried dropping 20gb of music on it from my lappy and came up with the typical insufficient storage message.
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Right, but now you have 64GB Now is the test time to drop your 20 gig of music and to see what is going to happen!
RalphLauren said:
That looks spooky....
Makes me think again that there is nothing for free in this world and a double price for all other flagships is a premium for working hardware, software and customer support....
Right, but now you have 64GB Now is the test time to drop your 20 gig of music and to see what is going to happen!
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ya id try adding that music back on just for our peace of minds

kitkat in the uk at last

Kitkat here in the UK at last.
No problems installing.
So far so good, have not noticed much difference yet, but yes it does seem a little smoother.
CNH3 build number like in Germany
I can confirm, I'm in UK also, and I am downloading OTA as we speak!! (slowly)
Funny thing is I checked on KIES and it says no update.
spark001uk said:
I can confirm, I'm in UK also, and I am downloading OTA as we speak!! (slowly)
Funny thing is I checked on KIES and it says no update.
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I always have been checking Sammobile website everyday ... what pointless and waste of time as its not even on there either.
Just updated after a tediously slow download.
Now up and running 4.4.2 without any problems. Now to give it a day or so and see how it goes I suppose
I'm getting silky smooth operation so far. About time, I paid enough for this unit so the least they can do is iron out the problems!
Ah well, better late than never as the saying goes.!
Yup, installed it now and performance and navigation is dam fast. Not sure about the battery which many have highlighted as an issue so will keep my eyes peeled on his this one for now.
subram said:
Yup, installed it now and performance and navigation is dam fast. Not sure about the battery which many have highlighted as an issue so will keep my eyes peeled on his this one for now.
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left mine all night after install used about 2 % so seems better. Certainly not a problem at the moment.
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So I'm going to install this update tomorrow hopefully. Can anyone let me know if they have encountered any issues with YouTube app, I'm positive some people had issies when they installed kitkat not sure what region it was tbh.
Also have yous encountered any other issues at all yet, big or small?
I'm ever so cautious since I got stung pretty badly with the S3 update many months ago which they had to stop thanks to it being a disgrace of an update.
Thanks in advance.
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Geordie Affy said:
So I'm going to install this update tomorrow hopefully. Can anyone let me know if they have encountered any issues with YouTube app, I'm positive some people had issies when they installed kitkat not sure what region it was tbh.
Also have yous encountered any other issues at all yet, big or small?
I'm ever so cautious since I got stung pretty badly with the S3 update many months ago which they had to stop thanks to it being a disgrace of an update.
Thanks in advance.
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No problems yet, go for it. Utube is fine.
Still problems with sd card access on some apps.
BS player doesn't work, crashes on start.
ES explorer not writing to sd card either.
thomlh said:
No problems yet, go for it. Utube is fine.
Still problems with sd card access on some apps.
BS player doesn't work, crashes on start.
ES explorer not writing to sd card either.
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Yeah restricted SD card access - We're just going to have to get used to it a guess.
I don't have much apps on my Tablet and I have about 9GB still free on my internal memory so I reckon I'll manage hopefully.
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Yeah restricted SD card access - We're just going to have to get used to it a guess.
I don't have much apps on my Tablet and I have about 9GB still free on my internal memory so I reckon I'll manage hopefully.
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Just root it
You can get full SD card access and more with root + xposed :good:
22sl22 said:
Just root it
You can get full SD card access and more with root + xposed :good:
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Yeah thats what I'm going to do if it affects me, I think al be alright with space and what not as I dont really have much apps tbh. And any videos and MP3 I want on my tablet can still be transferred onto SD card.
Geordie Affy said:
Yeah thats what I'm going to do if it affects me, I think al be alright with space and what not as I dont really have much apps tbh. And any videos and MP3 I want on my tablet can still be transferred onto SD card.
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I just save things to phone mem use the built in file manager if I need to move anything onto card. My s5 is kitkat and it's the same deal.
3rd party apps have had their sd card permissions removed, stops apps littering the card with rubbish.
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I just save things to phone mem use the built in file manager if I need to move anything onto card. My s5 is kitkat and it's the same deal.
3rd party apps have had their sd card permissions removed, stops apps littering the card with rubbish.
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It depends on the user as well. You and a few others might not need SD card permissions but for someone like me with a lot of heavy games, emulator games like ps1, movies/videos and other large apps, a 32GB micro SD is a blessing
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It depends on the user as well. You and a few others might not need SD card permissions but for someone like me with a lot of heavy games, emulator games like ps1, movies/videos and other large apps, a 32GB micro SD is a blessing
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Yeah I have a 64GB SD Card and tbh I only have like 10GB worth of stuff on it at the minute. I don't use my tablet to the level I used to, I still use it a LOT but my main uses are surfing the net and LOADS of YouTube.
Although I'm going on Holiday next month so I'm going to tranfer about 50GB worth of HD documentaries and all sorts ... Love the ability to do that.
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I just save things to phone mem use the built in file manager if I need to move anything onto card. My s5 is kitkat and it's the same deal.
3rd party apps have had their sd card permissions removed, stops apps littering the card with rubbish.
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Some developers have written their apps now with SD card access. It is laziness by some that they have not yet.
See Maps Me for an example of how to do it. They were very quick, a great app.
What on earth!! Just finished work so thought I'd download the update and then install ... says its ganna take an 1hr09 to download just 600MB!! Talk about slow.
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What on earth!! Just finished work so thought I'd download the update and then install ... says its ganna take an 1hr09 to download just 600MB!! Talk about slow.
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It will be, there's thousands of users been waiting forever for it to be released !
In fact, they may well have capped the speed to distribute it fairly. Mine took about an hour.
spark001uk said:
It will be, there's thousands of users been waiting forever for it to be released !
In fact, they may well have capped the speed to distribute it fairly. Mine took about an hour.
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Aye a guess that does make sense tbf. Tbh it says 44mins left now ... will be done in 30mins a reckon.

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