I am concerned after the Government sold new 4G bands to Telstra, Optus and TPG.
The new bands are in the 700Mhz 4G bands, similar to Americas 4G networks. IMO a stupid move because hardly any phone manufacturers target this band when creating global devices. Why is Australia trying to follow the US so much?
This will significantly reduce the 4G devices that we will be able to buy going forward, and in a lot of cases will not even be available. Obviously the Telcos are excited by this, because you are more likely to be forced into buying their phones.
The roll out is planned over the next two years
this put a damper on my morning!
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this put a damper on my morning!
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Sorry, I think that I wasn't clear, but I am sure that the existing networks will still be supported. So our Xperia Z should still work, but you can be sure that the this 4G network will be the new development and the network they will put the most work into (Similar to Telstra's nextG)
Not bothered by this, the 4G coverage is still too 5hit IMO...
Got coverage in south eastern side of Melbourne, chadstone, mount Waverly, burwood, Doncaster
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I am concerned after the Government sold new 4G bands to Telstra, Optus and TPG.
The new bands are in the 700Mhz 4G bands, similar to Americas 4G networks. IMO a stupid move because hardly any phone manufacturers target this band when creating global devices. Why is Australia trying to follow the US so much?
This will significantly reduce the 4G devices that we will be able to buy going forward, and in a lot of cases will not even be available. Obviously the Telcos are excited by this, because you are more likely to be forced into buying their phones.
The roll out is planned over the next two years
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Worldwide companies are working with the 700Mhz band. Vodafone international has been testing the 700Mhz band in New Zealand, Australia, U.K and parts of Europe for the past year due to it's higher stability, and far better range than current bandwidths. Phone manufacturers are also aware of this, but it's still a long way from being put into commercial use, mainly due to the bandwidth still being tied up with other services (UHF Television for example).
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Not bothered by this, the 4G coverage is still too 5hit IMO...
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Yep your not wrong
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Worldwide companies are working with the 700Mhz band. Vodafone international has been testing the 700Mhz band in New Zealand, Australia, U.K and parts of Europe for the past year due to it's higher stability, and far better range than current bandwidths. Phone manufacturers are also aware of this, but it's still a long way from being put into commercial use, mainly due to the bandwidth still being tied up with other services (UHF Television for example).
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I am not sure that you are correct, because Vodafone have not purchased any 700MHz bands for 4G in Australia. These are new bands that have just been opened up, so any commercial testing on these bands can only start now and not for Vodafone. Analogue TV is being switched off here very soon, and all of Australia by the end of the year.
Vodafone is huge in New Zealand but in Australia they are CRAP, and they are typically known as vodafail, they are only enabling the 4G in June, the band they are using in Australia is 1800MHz with a 20MHz width.
Yes, and New Zealand has commonly been unusual for mobile support look at the telecom cdma network that was introduced, and the lack of devices to support it when it was released.
Qualcomm already has all LTE bands support in it's latest chipset, but obviously that is not included in most phones today.
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I am not sure that you are correct, because Vodafone have not purchased any 700MHz bands for 4G in Australia. These are new bands that have just been opened up, so any commercial testing on these bands can only start now and not for Vodafone. Analogue TV is being switched off here very soon, and all of Australia by the end of the year.
Vodafone is huge in New Zealand but in Australia they are CRAP, and they are typically known as vodafail, they are only enabling the 4G in June, the band they are using in Australia is 1800MHz with a 20MHz width.
Yes, and New Zealand has commonly been unusual for mobile support look at the telecom cdma network that was introduced, and the lack of devices to support it when it was released.
Qualcomm already has all LTE bands support in it's latest chipset, but obviously that is not included in most phones today.
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The Sale of Bandwidths is so a provider can use them towards commercial use, Telstra for example began LTE testing as early as 2010. Companies do not need to purchase a frequency before they can begin testing on it. For Example, Vodafone New Zealand launched LTE just this March, after purchasing the 1800Mhz frequency in February, but have been testing the frequency since 2011.
And I agree, Vodafone in Australia is rubbish
Don't get me started on Telecom, they're the reason NZ is still so far behind the rest of the developed world in terms of Telecommunications.
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i was reading this article and it said it wouldnt work..
Where are you getting 3G for T-mobile in the US? I only heard it was in NYC at the moment.
Sadly, the answer is most likely not.
T-Mobile is deploying 3G service on the 1700 MHz UMTS band, which the Hermes, and a lot of other phones, can not use.
My confusion is that T-Mobile USA has submitted the Kaiser for approval to the FCC, and the manual that comes with it lists the Kaiser as supporting 1700… in the Japanese version.
So are they using a modified Japanese version, or releasing it as a EDGE-only phone (which would be a mistake IMO), or something else? I sure don’t know, but I’m expecting to have to replace my beloved hermes with something else if I want to make use of the upcoming 3G.
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Sadly, the answer is most likely not.
T-Mobile is deploying 3G service on the 1700 MHz UMTS band, which the Hermes, and a lot of other phones, can not use.
My confusion is that T-Mobile USA has submitted the Kaiser for approval to the FCC, and the manual that comes with it lists the Kaiser as supporting 1700… in the Japanese version.
So are they using a modified Japanese version, or releasing it as a EDGE-only phone (which would be a mistake IMO), or something else? I sure don’t know, but I’m expecting to have to replace my beloved hermes with something else if I want to make use of the upcoming 3G.
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After they fully release 3G, I hope that T-Mobile USA ventures into getting the Raphael since they NEED a good flagship of a phone in their lineup. AT&T already has the Kaiser and iPhone (not a fan, but it's a popular phone though)
But I'll be patient. I have 1 more year before I'm eligible for an upgrade, hopefully they'll have something worth it by then...
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Absolutely not. It wont now and it wont in the future., T-Mo uses 1700 and at&t uses 2100. They will not interchange because neither side wants the others users sucking up they're bandwidth. Do not expect to see 3q dual band handsets that are "intended" for the US anytime soon.
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Absolutely not. It wont now and it wont in the future., T-Mo uses 1700 and at&t uses 2100. They will not interchange because neither side wants the others users sucking up they're bandwidth. Do not expect to see 3q dual band handsets that are "intended" for the US anytime soon.
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Well, that's subject to a bunch of things, while AT&T may not want "T-Mobile Customers sucking up their bandwidth", EDGE is pretty fast in comparison to some DSL connections and the vast majority of T-Mobile customers get their service through AT&T towers. So, in a way, T-Mobile customers are already sucking up AT&T's bandwidth. Once quadband UMTS chipsets become common, or T-Mobile decides to abandon its 1700mhz plans, I'm sure that AT&T and T-Mobile will reach a roaming agreement just like they did with GSM/EDGE
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once quadband UMTS chipsets become common, or T-Mobile decides to abandon its 1700mhz plans, I'm sure that AT&T and T-Mobile will reach a roaming agreement just like they did with GSM/EDGE
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Sounds like the best plan for them to come to their senses...This would be our best hope!
This broke my heart... and I work for T-Mobile. Why on earth would HTC/SE make a phone that practically every company in the world can use with 3G, but not T-Mobile!? Frustrated.
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This broke my heart... and I work for T-Mobile. Why on earth would HTC/SE make a phone that practically every company in the world can use with 3G, but not T-Mobile!? Frustrated.
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Then why don't you blame T-mobile for building their 3G network on 2100mzh while there others are using 850/900/1900 for YEARS?
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Then why don't you blame T-mobile for building their 3G network on 2100mzh while there others are using 850/900/1900 for YEARS?
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AT&T is 2100mhz... T-Mobile USA is 1700mhz
Uh...ATT is 850/1900, FYI. Tmobile is 1700/2100 both, not either or.
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Uh...ATT is 850/1900, FYI. Tmobile is 1700/2100 both, not either or.
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That's strange. A G1 is unlockable to ATT, but only supports UMTS 1700/2100. The G1's in our store access 3G just fine. My X1i won't access anything but EDGE (not 3G). Since the G1 supports 1700 and X1i does not, this is the logical deduction that the X1i doesn't support the same standard that the G1 does which is T-Mobile USA 3G
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Why on earth would HTC/SE make a phone that practically every company in the world can use with 3G, but not T-Mobile!?
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hmmm... let me state it upside down:
"Why on earth would T-MOBILE chose a band NOT USED BY ANY OTHER COMPANY IN THE WORLD ??"
Sounds better this way
Or... you can say it like this:
"Why on earth would HTC/SE or ANY other phone maker include in all their phones a band that is ONLY USED by T-MOBILE ??"
This one is even worst
PS: It's true, T-Mobile is the ONLY operator using the 1700+2100 martian band don't blame phone makers
And beware: it is NOT "1700 & 2100" but "1700 PLUS 2100" (one band for uplink and the other band for downlink)
SUCH A FREAK !!
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AT&T is 2100mhz... T-Mobile USA is 1700mhz
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Are you kidding me that you are working for a carrier and you don't even know what bands your company (or your competitor) is using? I am starting to understand why you would blame the phone manufacture now ....
Why would HTC/SE make a phone that practically every company in the world can use with 3G, but not T-Mobile?
Why would T-mobile chose a 3G band (1700+2100mhz) not used by any other company in the world?
It's really quite complicated, so I'll keep it simple (although the details won't be very clear).
It's neither HTC/SE nor T-mobile's fault. Unlike in Europe, the American government (FCC) does not define or reserve specific bands (1900mhz, 2100mhz, etc) for specific technologies (GSM, UMTS, CDMA, etc). The US government also does not want to reallocate bands that are already being used, even if it's for older technology. Since VoiceStream (Tmo before Deutsche Telekom bought it) didn't have any money to buy spectrum in advance for 3G, that pretty much means that T-mobile has had to settle for whatever bands are leftover.
T-mobile wanted to keep their US 3G bands the same as in Europe, but the lower half (uplink) is already occupied by another technology (which the FCC cannot or will not vacate). So the only choice was to launch 3G on the 1700+2100mhz "AWS" band, or have no 3G at all. And without 3G, AT&T would have a monopoly on UMTS, Tmo would lose business with only 2G, and we as customers would suffer in the long run (especially since without competition, AT&T could keep its prices artificially high).
For the other points, contrary to popular belief, Tmo is not the only carrier in the world that runs a UMTS network in the 1700mhz range. Carrier e-Mobile in Japan runs a UMTS 1700 network. It is slightly different than Tmo's AWS because e-Mobile uses 1700-uplink/1800-downlink (UMTS Band IX) while Tmo uses 1700-uplink/2100-downlink (UMTS Band IV) and is therefore still incompatible. However, as with the G1, it is fully possible to build a radio that can switch between "overlapping" modes (eg: 1700+2100 and 1900+2100* on the G1), it just isn't very cost-effective to make those radios at the moment.
*1900+2100 does not mean AT&T's UMTS 1900mhz network. It's 1900mhz uplink and 2100mhz downlink, and you can see the specific frequency differences here (UMTS Bands I and II).
Keep in mind (and this is a more general point): GSM started off with most phones being only dual-mode (900/1800mhz or 850/1900mhz), but after the technology matured tri- and quad-band radios became commonplace, and now quad-GSM phones are found everywhere. In time we might see a penta-band (850/900/1700/1900/2100) "global" UMTS radio become standard on all phones -- just not with the X1. Then again, by the time we see penta-radios, we will move on to 4G, and with the current split between WiMAX and LTE, we will probably have these same headaches all over again.
So if you want someone to blame, blame the FCC for being unable or unwilling to harmonize the US wireless spectrum with other global standards. Tmo, HTC, and SE are merely just trying to play the cards dealt to them.
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You might also stop to consider: it is still possible for SE to release a Tmo-capable X1 (let's call it the X1t), but the only advantage is that it would work with Tmo, and thus only Tmo customers would buy it (unlike the X1a which can work with any 850/1900/2100mhz carrier, not just AT&T). That makes it cost-prohibitive at the moment. Furthermore, since it would be sold in the American market, the Qualcomm patent restrictions would still apply, and you would end up with the MSM7201A processor which many X1a users have been complaining about. There is just no perfect answer.
Thank you for clarifying. I learned something from that.
Will Samsung Galaxy S work on 3G fido/Rogers
Hello,
I live in Toronto, Canada and I have phone with Fido. The 3G frequency for fido/rogers are 850/1900. I have found the phone on ebay unlocked that supports HSDPA 900 / 1900 / 2100.
I heard many posts here about that. I just want to confirm If rogers/fido support 850/1900, however the phone only supports HSDPA 900 / 1900 / 2100.
Will I still get 3G network or not?
No 850 MHZ available yet. You'd get 2g, but not 3g. I'm sure the 850 Mhz version will be popping up soon.
Yes, but The phone support 1900 and rogers list 1900 as one of the two band frequencies for 3G, so it's should get 3G using 1900 frequency in some areas, right?
Re: Will Samsung Galaxy S work on 3G fido/Rogers
It should work on the 1900 band. You just need to make sure that you have strong 1900 band coverage for 3g in your area. Check gsmworld. Com for the maps.
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1900 is the secondary band. you'll only get it in certain areas.
and by certain, i mean very few.
even then, would you want a phone that can't connect when you're in one part of town to another
Okay so I was just reading this older article on IntoMobile: http://www.intomobile.com/2009/02/24/att-3g-network-going-850mhz-nationwide-by-2010.html
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The news that AT&T is aiming to complete their 3G network migration to the more capable 850Mhz GSM ban came straight from de la Vega, so it’s a fairly reliable goal-line to look towards. Unfortunately for folks with 2G-limited (EDGE) devices, AT&T’s decision to co-opt the higher-frequency band for 3G services will means that 2G services will now rely on the more finicky and shorter-range 1900Mhz band. In fact, you may have already started noticing a drop in 2G performance in your area. Still, the push to migrate 3G services to the 850Mhz band highlights AT&T’s ongoing effort to improve their 3G network.
So basically by getting a phone that works on the less reliable portion of at&ts network we are definitely asking for trouble. So as much as I hate hate hate waiting. I think that I will have to wait for an official us version.
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Okay so I was just reading this older article on IntoMobile: http://www.intomobile.com/2009/02/24/att-3g-network-going-850mhz-nationwide-by-2010.html
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The news that AT&T is aiming to complete their 3G network migration to the more capable 850Mhz GSM ban came straight from de la Vega, so it’s a fairly reliable goal-line to look towards. Unfortunately for folks with 2G-limited (EDGE) devices, AT&T’s decision to co-opt the higher-frequency band for 3G services will means that 2G services will now rely on the more finicky and shorter-range 1900Mhz band. In fact, you may have already started noticing a drop in 2G performance in your area. Still, the push to migrate 3G services to the 850Mhz band highlights AT&T’s ongoing effort to improve their 3G network.
So basically by getting a phone that works on the less reliable portion of at&ts network we are definitely asking for trouble. So as much as I hate hate hate waiting. I think that I will have to wait for an official us version.
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Good call.
I think that if we don't get an 850 mhz US one right away they'll probably get one in australia or somewhere else where 850 is used. Same deal with people who want the HD2 on AT&T.
850 Mhz version "Not likely" imo...
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Good call.
I think that if we don't get an 850 mhz US one right away they'll probably get one in australia or somewhere else where 850 is used. Same deal with people who want the HD2 on AT&T.
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I can comment from personal experience here.. I'm going to hedge a bet that there will not be an 850Mhz Galaxy S... If there were going to be, it would have been submitted to FCC by now, but I could be wrong.
I bought an OmniaHD last June, which is also 900/1900/2100 and it's never hooked up to 3G in Canada.
I can scan UMTS (using service menus) but cannot connect. I always get an unauthorized access message.
The real issue is that Canadian Carriers are making THE CORRECT business decision by using UMTS on 850Mhz.
850 gives you a larger coverage area, with the trade off of less subscribers per radio. this fits Canada's geographic demographic to the tee.. vast area, not many people.
It could be argued that 1900 should be enabled in metro areas, but Rogers is reserving the 1900 for additional voice capacity (is what I've come to learn).
I guess 1900 would be enabled if 850 became flooded.. so here's to iPad causing conjestion on the 850... iPad being pure data.. Hopefully this will be the case and 1900 will be enabled.
FYI there is an approved 'Tmobile' version of the Galaxy S. Tmobile uses 1700/2100.. and so does WIND
engadget.com/2010/04/11/samsung-galaxy-s-hits-the-fcc-with-atandt-bands-onboard/
at&t will be calling it the Captivate and its coming in late July.
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engadget.com/2010/04/11/samsung-galaxy-s-hits-the-fcc-with-atandt-bands-onboard/
at&t will be calling it the Captivate and its coming in late July.
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Thanks for the link...
From Engadget, you can click on the fcc image to get the the fcc application. This link: (rf exposure info)
fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=1263518&native_or_pdf=pdf
page 4 indicates that the application is for WCDMA 1900Mhz.. GSM will operate both 850 and 1900, however 3G is 1900. (also 2.4Ghz application for BT and WIFI..
So you're out of luck if your carrier has enabled 3G on 850 only....
Hope Rogers enables 1900, because I WANT THIS PHONE!
ps. Page 12 is neat-it looks like they radiate Brain and Muscle tissue equivalents to see the effects of rf The details on test configurations and results are there as well.. I wonder if they'll come out with a corded version....
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The real issue is that Canadian Carriers are making THE CORRECT business decision by using UMTS on 850Mhz.
850 gives you a larger coverage area, with the trade off of less subscribers per radio. this fits Canada's geographic demographic to the tee.. vast area, not many people.
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Why is it that they're not using 900 instead of 850? How much of an "incorrect" business decision would that be?
Aqua1ung said:
Why is it that they're not using 900 instead of 850? How much of an "incorrect" business decision would that be?
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That... is a mystery unsolved ...
Prayers Answered
Samsung Captivate is the phone.. Now What about that Galaxy S Pro.. will we be seeing a flash for the camera???
I just received my Samsung Galaxy S and it's working on Rogers 3G. No problems all day.
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I just received my Samsung Galaxy S and it's working on Rogers 3G. No problems all day.
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Are you in a strong 1900 Mhz area? Where did you buy your Galaxy S from?
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Are you in a strong 1900 Mhz area? Where did you buy your Galaxy S from?
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I live in Richmond Hill. I have been all over including downtown, and it seems to be working so far. I bought it off a seller on eBay that is located in Markham.
Samsung Galaxy S 3g working in the (Greater Toronto Area) with Rogers on 1900 MHz
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I live in Richmond Hill. I have been all over including downtown, and it seems to be working so far. I bought it off a seller on eBay that is located in Markham.
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@bigbuffalo, thanks for the tip about the guy in Markham, I met up with him yesterday and bought the Samsung Galaxy S. Man What a device!!! I replaced my Motorola Milestone as I had enough of the Motorola BS. Don't get me wrong, I still think its one of the best 2.1 devices in Canada but if you read the Motorola forums you can see what my frustrations have been all about.
I can confirm that the Galaxy S does indeed have 3G coverage all over the GTA (South Eastern Ontario, Canada) including Milton on the 1900 MHz band but if you drive 5 minutes west of Milton it goes down to EDGE. Oh forgot to mention that the 3G is 3.5G as I see an H (HSDPA, HSUPA) more often then I see 3G. I hope this helps.
The device is a work of art, smooth,thin, light, sexy and packs a punch. I would recommend this device to anyone over the Nexus One, Milestone and the Sony X10. The Samsung blows them out of the water in every way.
Also if anyone is interested here is the company I bought the Samsung Galaxy S from:
NCI Sales Support Team
Neway Communication International
newayci.com
1-888-839-5639
Now if I can only find some accessories..
Thanks again guys..
Regards,
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Glad you were able to get one. It is one superb piece of software. Not sure if your device has the Singtel firmware on it (Asia), but mine did and I found it to lag quite a bit. When I did my research, apparently that firmware really slows down the device. I since updated to JF2 firmware, and rooted, and now it runs fantastic. I would highly recommend to get rid of the Singtel firmware. Enjoy your device.
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Glad you were able to get one. It is one superb piece of software. Not sure if your device has the Singtel firmware on it (Asia), but mine did and I found it to lag quite a bit. When I did my research, apparently that firmware really slows down the device. I since updated to JF2 firmware, and rooted, and now it runs fantastic. I would highly recommend to get rid of the Singtel firmware. Enjoy your device.
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hmm...i'm pretty much sold on this phone. Just gonna wait until Tuesday to see what they officially unveil in terms of US carriers (AT&T in particular). The (possible) removal of the front facing camera on the Captivate really ticked me off..but apparently they added a 6 axis sensor for gaming etc. Hoping they root the Captivate soonish after launch in the event I opt to go that route and save some $$. Decisions...decisions.....
Any one use this phone in CANADA with Rogers / Fido...
i'm use with Rogers...some time show at 3G mode or HSPA mode...but seem this phone is not support Rogers 3G network...can someone explain it.......also when i use Fido i can in roaming mode...the date is not working until i check the roaming date box........
If I understood right at least some DVPs have radios capable of using both T-Mobile US's 3G network and European 3G networks. Has anyone tried this? Are we sure that all DVPs have the same radios? Or do the European ones have the US frequencies disabled or something?
Thanks in advance for any info,
Tom
The US ones have AWS for TMOUS, and European 900/2100.
Whether they will actually provision correctly and be usable w/ 3G services in non-US locales is anyone's guess. The US DVP has only just recently been unlockable and I don't think we have had any reports of actual int'l roaming success yet.
I think its been mentioned in the unlocking thread that people have used it in Europe and from the listing of the DVP I've seen the specs indicate its has the exact frequencies as the US one. I would expect it to work, unless Dell has done something really screwy (but thats not impossible) but hopefully someone can confirm for sure.
People are claiming that European DVPs have AWS 3G support? I don't think so.
Although it is conceivable that it's there and simply unadvertised, I believe non-US DVPs have 900/2100 *only*.
US DVPs have 900/2100 *and* AWS.
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People are claiming that European DVPs have AWS 3G support? I don't think so.
Although it is conceivable that it's there and simply unadvertised, I believe non-US DVPs have 900/2100 *only*.
US DVPs have 900/2100 *and* AWS.
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Actually I was referring to people with US handsets being used in Europe, not the other way round. And its possible the Euro version is hte same as the US one, looking at a video of a DVP released in India it shows the same frequencies as the US one, and Clove also lists the same 3G frequencies so I would lean towards all DVP's bring usable in Europe and the US.
With today's big news, what's the point?
Once AT&T shuts off AWS UMTS in a year or so we are all gonna be left with paperweights anyway.
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With today's big news, what's the point?
Once AT&T shuts off AWS UMTS in a year or so we are all gonna be left with paperweights anyway.
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NAY, I SAY THEE NAY!!!!!!!! Could be right though, but I was planning on ditching the DVP for a penta band Nokia so I guess I'll be ok - save for being on at&t!
3G works here
They are saying it will take "several years" to transition T-Mobile users. Lets hope the regulators see sense and block it in any case...
So I have a European DVP now. Anyone know of an app that will tell me the radio frequencies it supports? The System Info one doesn't seem to.
It supports 900 and 2100.
How did you find that out? The box says UMTS 2100/1700/900.
The European box says the phone inside supports 1700?
my US T-mobile DVP (unlocked) works fine on tmobile Germany and I get about 3000k download 2500k upload. I am in a fairly bad region for network speeds. But I have hit upwards of 7000k download in some bigger cities.
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The European box says the phone inside supports 1700?
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Yes.......
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/06/t-mo...00mhz-network-iphone-at-wwdc-next-week-maybe/
Looks like we will be able to use 4g hspa+ on the 1900MHz band. Im pretty happy about this since the international version is much better than the U.S version in terms of the processor.
While upgrading coverage inside the West side of the Moscone Center, T-Mobile has also deployed 4G HSPA+ service in the 1900 MHz band to test the live network on a small scale. As part of the company’s previously announced $4 billion network modernization effort, T-Mobile plans to launch 4G HSPA+ service in the 1900 MHz band in a large number of markets by the end of the year, which will make our 4G network compatible with a broader range of devices, including the iPhone.
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Careful here.
Yeah, as much as I'd love the international version for dev support and possible "more future proof" because of the exynos quad core, I'm hesitant to rely on Tmo's "future plans". I have screaming 1700Mhz in my neighborhood and consistently get 9mb/s down on my GN. I could only imagine what a HSPA+42 device would get. Probably 25mbps lol.
Why start a new thread it has been beat to death... it's planned for end of year... period... it's a big country, only few markets will be tested...and how dependable is it going to be while they are building, testing,and stabilizing it at the same time...
I remember this being announced around Christmas time if not earlier... it's not happening over night
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