[Q] [ROM] Cyanogen(mod) 10.1 - symlink: somelinks failed - Huawei Ideos X5 U8800

Hello,
after googling for about 20 hours, with some hours restless sleep between , i now decide to ask, because i am unable to solve the problem without help.
I can install [ROM] Cyanogen(mod) 10.1 beginning with Version 1 up to Version 2 Update 2. Every version after that fails with the following:
Code:
Installing Update...
symlink: somelinks failed
E:Error in /sdcard/*insert-failing-version-here*
<status 7>
Installation aborted.
I googled and found a lot i could have done wrong, i repartitioned my sys, cleaned, tried different recovery versions(cwm & twrp), got back to install [ROM] Aurora ICS 4.0.4 for u8800 - Version 5.0 update 21, which all worked out very well. but as soon as i try to install one of the versions 3 to 5 of the [ROM] Cyanogen(mod) 10.1 i hit the same problem over and over. I hope there is someone who knows what makes the difference betwenn the working versions and them who won't work, maybe even have a solution

bdgraue said:
Hello,
after googling for about 20 hours, with some hours restless sleep between , i now decide to ask, because i am unable to solve the problem without help.
I can install [ROM] Cyanogen(mod) 10.1 beginning with Version 1 up to Version 2 Update 2. Every version after that fails with the following:
Code:
Installing Update...
symlink: somelinks failed
E:Error in /sdcard/*insert-failing-version-here*
<status 7>
Installation aborted.
I googled and found a lot i could have done wrong, i repartitioned my sys, cleaned, tried different recovery versions(cwm & twrp), got back to install [ROM] Aurora ICS 4.0.4 for u8800 - Version 5.0 update 21, which all worked out very well. but as soon as i try to install one of the versions 3 to 5 of the [ROM] Cyanogen(mod) 10.1 i hit the same problem over and over. I hope there is someone who knows what makes the difference betwenn the working versions and them who won't work, maybe even have a solution
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It has to do with carrier settings on your phone. Ex. AT&T and movelint but restrictions to certain partitions. I'm looking for a solution.
Sent from my U8800-51 using Tapatalk 2

same problem
in Finland. with sonera as operator. I. have the same problem......
it is driving. me mad.
:crying:

I have de same problem too

Have you tried Twrp to see if cwm is the problem?
Sent from my U8800-51 using Tapatalk 2

Somcom3X said:
Have you tried Twrp to see if cwm is the problem?
Sent from my U8800-51 using Tapatalk 2
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I tried with twrp and the problem its the same

Somcom3X said:
Have you tried Twrp to see if cwm is the problem?
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as you can read in my first post, i tried both
that was one of the many options i found in the net and tried out. i guess i tried nearly everything i could find and what was mostly save, ok inbetween i thought three times i have bricked my phone, but i could always convince it to come back to life
i dont know what the difference really between v1/v2 and the later not working versions is. i tried to compare the install-files and the relevant seemed to be the same in that case. but i am really a noob when it comes to android development :cyclops:

Version 6
bdgraue said:
Hello,
after googling for about 20 hours, with some hours restless sleep between , i now decide to ask, because i am unable to solve the problem without help.
I can install [ROM] Cyanogen(mod) 10.1 beginning with Version 1 up to Version 2 Update 2. Every version after that fails with the following:
Code:
Installing Update...
symlink: somelinks failed
E:Error in /sdcard/*insert-failing-version-here*
<status 7>
Installation aborted.
I googled and found a lot i could have done wrong, i repartitioned my sys, cleaned, tried different recovery versions(cwm & twrp), got back to install [ROM] Aurora ICS 4.0.4 for u8800 - Version 5.0 update 21, which all worked out very well. but as soon as i try to install one of the versions 3 to 5 of the [ROM] Cyanogen(mod) 10.1 i hit the same problem over and over. I hope there is someone who knows what makes the difference betwenn the working versions and them who won't work, maybe even have a solution
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Same problem. with version 6.
:crying::crying::crying:

Doncra said:
Same problem. with version 6.
:crying::crying::crying:
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ah... "good" to read that, i was just about to try it out
so maybe i'll wait till this issue is addressed

I had the same problem, but after repartition the system following this instructions ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29505489 ), now I am able to install it.

alexmbra said:
I had the same problem, but after repartition the system following this instructions ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29505489 ), now I am able to install it.
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works thanks

alexmbra said:
I had the same problem, but after repartition the system following this instructions ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29505489 ), now I am able to install it.
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same here to. i don't know exactly wat went wrong the first time i repartitioned the phone. now it works, i have [ROM] Cyanogen(mod) 10.1Version 6 up'n'runing
many thanks for mention it again and kinda "forcing" me to do the repartitioning again

alexmbra said:
I had the same problem, but after repartition the system following this instructions ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29505489 ), now I am able to install it.
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I was just about to post this. :thumbup:
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Thanks
Somcom3X said:
I was just about to post this. :thumbup:
Sent from my U8800-51 using Tapatalk 2
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:good: works

Related

ICS Alpha 9 Build available for download

Hi guys,
I just noticed a youtube movie where he showed alpha build 9 of ICS!
He also provides a download link for that build in the description of the movie.
Mod edit: link removed
Thanks
Thanks for informing us! Though I always slightly skeptical of this kind of links. Might brick our phone.
cyanogenmod 7.2 is released now . looks sweet .
androidkid311 said:
cyanogenmod 7.2 is released now . looks sweet .
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Where?
Thats nothing but the build leaked by conteje last week
is the big font really necessary?
skimminstones said:
is the big font really necessary?
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i like big fonts
skimminstones said:
is the big font really necessary?
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Its necessary there as it wont misguide people from thinking something new is released.
eRajesh said:
Erm ICS for SGS2 has been delayed now. See this - http://bit.ly/tMNRtQ
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we already know as its already up on the sticky......maybe you should PM me so you can also use the sticky as well...cause you always get info as well..But you might want to change your blog a bit as its not really saying they have stopped..trust me id be the first to know..anyway like i said id like to stay intouch with you as you have good info and i can use more hands on deck for the sticky..
eRajesh said:
Erm ICS for SGS2 has been delayed now. See this - http://bit.ly/tMNRtQ
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ya, thats sad, following codeworx for a while
There's a more recent version here:
Is there something newer than alpha 9.1.1?
plazzTT said:
There's a more recent version here:
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SAme version, nothing new in it
Ok not going to spoil the party here but like Bala_gamer has said there is nothing official been released yet. And no official word that the project has stopped due to some sources being needed...Till you hear or read the words project ended then you can all start crying..But till then just sit back and wait..
Ps: Bala_gamer nice haircut
Matriak31 said:
Ps: Bala_gamer nice haircut
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LOL! Actually i didnt cut it, thats the secret.
Trying to install. Get error. Getprop - error 7?
jfive74 said:
Trying to install. Get error. Getprop - error 7?
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Install, and reinstall again...
jfive74 said:
Trying to install. Get error. Getprop - error 7?
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Flash a cm7 CWM 5.0 recovery first.
Error flash. What is problem? Clockwork version is 5.0.23
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Has anyone got this to work, tried it myself and it failed..
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium
i just tried and it worked...got back to stock though...my way how i installed...
1. backup your system
2. wipe data/cache/dalvik
3. install latest cyanogen
4. wipe data/cache/dalvik
5. boot cyanogen
6. back to recovery
7. wipe data/cache/dalvik
8. install ics
9. wipe data/cache/dalvik
10. boot ics and have fun testing
what i can say is that ics is just awesome. when it all works fine i will use it as my daily rom. but too buggy now to use it.

Step by step install oficial cm

How to install this http://www.cyanogenmod.com/devices/sony-ericsson-xperia-x8 ?
Actually,
I wonder aswell.
Sent from my E15i using XDA App
yesss
yeah oh yeah, official cyanogenmod 7.1 released finally!!!!! now does anyone know how to install
you all know that this is there for a quite long time right?
Here is tutorial how to install http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/32779-cyanogenmod-7-for-the-xperia-x8-v710-11-oct-2011/
How to install official CyanogenMod for X8
Here is little guide how to install:
1. You must have baseband ending with 015
!!!!! BEFORE CONTINUING TO STEP 2 READ THIS WARNING http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1481630 !!!!!
2. Unlock bootloader ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17656148 or http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17378137 )
3. Install FXP Kernel (link to FXP_030 kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18235841&postcount=1760 ) or nobodyAtall's Kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1350484
4. Install ROM: http://get.cm/?device=shakira
If you are installing it from other ROM replace updater-script with this one from link http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?ez92mhslzi4nxr8 , otherwise you will have Status 7 error
5. Install gapps: http://cmw.22aaf3.com/gapps/gapps-gb-20110828-signed.zip
6. Wipe device (If you are installing it from 2.1 or 2.2 you MUST do full wipe)
If you are loosing data connection after some time you can find fix in my signature
dbts25 said:
Here is little guide how to install:
1. You must have baseband ending with 015
2. Unlock bootloader ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17656148 or http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17378137 )
3. Install FXP Kernel (link to FXP_030 kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18235841&postcount=1760 ) or nobodyAtall's Kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1350484
4. Install ROM: http://get.cm/?device=shakira
If you are installing it from other ROM replace updater-script with this one from link http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?u4uneguivhdsr9q , otherwise you will have Status 7 error
5. Install gapps: http://cmw.22aaf3.com/gapps/gapps-gb-20110828-signed.zip
6. Wipe device (If you are installing it from 2.1 or 2.2 you MUST do full wipe)
If you are loosing data connection after some time you can find fix in my signature
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good TuT but my computer wont let me delete updater script so i cant replace it with downloaded version and when i just put the update-script.txt normally in the folder it says file is broken.
I think this rom would be way better then any other custom rom. Am I wrong?
wilbso said:
good TuT but my computer wont let me delete updater script so i cant replace it with downloaded version and when i just put the update-script.txt normally in the folder it says file is broken.
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It must be updater-script not updater-script.txt
1edgaras said:
I think this rom would be way better then any other custom rom. Am I wrong?
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If you don't need camera and radio (camera only VGA and Radio don't work) this ROM is good, but if you need them install MiniCM7 or another ROM
dbts25 said:
It must be updater-script not updater-script.txt
If you don't need camera and radio (camera only VGA and Radio don't work) this ROM is good, but if you need them install MiniCM7 or another ROM
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That's what the download is called that with the. Txt at the end....
sent from my x8 running gingerdx
wilbso said:
That's what the download is called that with the. Txt at the end....
sent from my x8 running gingerdx
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I have downloaded it right now and it don't have .txt extension.
Have you tried to delete .txt ?
@1edgaras click here please
Oh, that's so clever.
So in official cm camera and radio doesn't work? So why it's called stable?
1edgaras said:
Oh, that's so clever.
So in official cm camera and radio doesn't work? So why it's called stable?
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Stable means that it runs without reboots or crashes. It doesn't mean that it is bugless
1edgaras said:
Oh, that's so clever.
So in official cm camera and radio doesn't work? So why it's called stable?
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Oh, that's so clever
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why thank you
so in official cm camera and radio doesn't work? So why it's called stable?
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very good question, it got released not long ago so im guessing that they are still improving it. thats just my guess
Not working ....
dbts25 said:
Here is little guide how to install:
1. You must have baseband ending with 015
2. Unlock bootloader ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17656148 or http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17378137 )
3. Install FXP Kernel (link to FXP_030 kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18235841&postcount=1760 ) or nobodyAtall's Kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1350484
4. Install ROM: http://get.cm/?device=shakira
If you are installing it from other ROM replace updater-script with this one from link http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?u4uneguivhdsr9q , otherwise you will have Status 7 error
5. Install gapps: http://cmw.22aaf3.com/gapps/gapps-gb-20110828-signed.zip
6. Wipe device (If you are installing it from 2.1 or 2.2 you MUST do full wipe)
If you are loosing data connection after some time you can find fix in my signature
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You're so cool! Status 7 error disappeared forever, but his friend Status 6 error appeared. I tried to install it from stock 2.1, GingerDX, MiniCM7, GingerCruzt, kuyaDROID, and i tried both kernels with every rom, but this f***in status 6 error appeared again. I had two options:
1: I can f*** myself with my phone
2: (As I did) Ask you.
What should I do???
I really like the pure stock unmodded CM7 so please help me!!!
Here is the full error message: E: Error in /sdcard/update-cm-7.1.0-X8-signed.zip (Status 6)
installation aborted
ChongWiz said:
You're so cool! Status 7 error disappeared forever, but his friend Status 6 error appeared. I tried to install it from stock 2.1, GingerDX, MiniCM7, GingerCruzt, kuyaDROID, and i tried both kernels with every rom, but this f***in status 6 error appeared again. I had two options:
1: I can f*** myself with my phone
2: (As I did) Ask you.
What should I do???
I really like the pure stock unmodded CM7 so please help me!!!
Here is the full error message: E: Error in /sdcard/update-cm-7.1.0-X8-signed.zip (Status 6)
installation aborted
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Status 6 error means that update.zip is corrupted. I found one missing line in updater-script. If you want try this one. I don't have my phone here so I can test it now. I will look on it tomorrow
EDIT: If you are installing it from Stock 2.1 ROM you don't need to replace updater-script
Thank you very much! Good to see people who trying to help others, not just saying you are unlucky, not my false and going away. Now my dream came true... I can use pure CM7 straight from the Team CyanogenMod... Tank you dbts25!!!!

(SOLVED) ICS CM9 ROM, status 6 error on attempted install

Hey guys,
I can't post in the development section, so I have to put it here. I am trying to flash the alpha preview of the ICS CM9 ROM. I was getting a status 7 error, so I commented out the first line in the installer script using Notepad++, and re saved, per ker2sgr's post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1490831&page=10. Now I am getting a status 6 error. I also tried re saving the file with different encoding (ANSI, unicode), and got the same result. Can anyone help?
Does it say anything more in the error message?
It (CWM) just says "installation aborted, and the status 6 error code. From what I have read, this is an encoding issue. I tried editing the file with Windows Notepad app, as well as with Notepad++. I tried flashing the ROM as it was originally written, and it gave the status 7 error, even with the assert check disabled.
This pre alpha build is for the thinkpad only and even then its not intended for all thinkpads just us and uk
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
I should have provided more info. I have a US version 32GB, with the latest update installed. Koshu helped me to solve it. I had only commented out the first line in the updater script, when I needed to uncomment the first two lines. I got it to install now! Thanks!
prosparky said:
I should have provided more info. I have a US version 32GB, with the latest update installed. Koshu helped me to solve it. I had only commented out the first line in the updater script, when I needed to uncomment the first two lines. I got it to install now! Thanks!
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I thought u were someone asking me in a pm about me porting cm9 to the k1 (which I'm not) and thought this was about that glad u got it solved
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk

Early pre-alpha MIUI4.0.4 2.6.22 For developers only

I am not the real developer of insertions. Simply wanted to show that it is possible. Very much it would be desirable to see the new MIUI version on our smartphone
For developers only
MIUI4.0.4 2.7.20 failed to start on the basis of [ROM] [Early pre-alpha] AOSP ICS 4.0.4_r2.1 for DS5.kibuuka
The new wersion MIUI 4 2.7.20 hir:http://filestore.com.ua/?d=B3B5A9749
Russian is added. Stability of a.kamer is improved doesn't work
The big request to all who can finish this insertion, make it efforts
Sorry for bad english, thanks to online translation
For an insertion it is used Google Nexus One rom :http://roms.miui.us/passion/MIUI.us_passion_v4_2.6.22_Eng_Deo_ZipA_Signed_buildbot.zip
The new version works almost everything:to look the 34 th post
USB Mass Storage for ICS (that doesn't have native UMS support (yet))version 1.2:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1389375
new
Following version of an insertion:http://uafile.com.ua/get/33295/
speed is increased,the new basis and the new MIUI version, Is rut
I will download and flash to let everyone how it runs. Thanks, Liwais.
Liwais said:
Following version of an insertion:http://uafile.com.ua/get/33295/
speed is increased,the new basis and the new MIUI version, Is rut
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The first build hv no phone.apk, wifi not work and no data, how then this build ? Can you provide more changelog details ? It is good hv MIUI v.4 running on our device. Thank you
Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk 2
Still running 2.4.20 MIUI... was tempted to try ICS but now seems everyone is looking toward to Jelly bean. Only feature I care about in Jelly Bean was the voice actions.
Other than that I'll take MIUI any day.
nom051205 said:
The first build hv no phone.apk, wifi not work and no data, how then this build ? Can you provide more changelog details ? It is good hv MIUI v.4 running on our device. Thank you
Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk 2
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In this version speed and graphics not to be strewed is better. Thanking new build from kibuuka
In this version too there is no phone, but the Wi-Fi works at both versions that the Wi-Fi would work it is necessary to include it in settings and to press to scan in the bottom of page, and I have to work with data, phone it is possible to establish from a market for example TouchPal Contacts.В to an assembly basis new буилд [ROM] [Early pre-alpha] of AOSP ICS 4.0.4_r2.1 for DS5. (dell_streak-ota-eng.den.070212) and new MIUI Google Nexus One MIUI.us_passion_v4_2.6.29_Eng_Deo_ZipA_Signed_buildbot version.This version already with рут the rights .Who can force to work apk and launcher apk phone a request to help!!
Excuse for my English and thanks to all
For shutdown of illumination of keys and brightness control of the screen to use the appendix:https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mobi.pruss.superdim&hl=ru
streak4m3 said:
I will download and flash to let everyone how it runs. Thanks, Liwais.
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Please. Write the opinion) I won't refuse any help in MIUI construction
The new version works almost everything
The new version works almost everything, phone, a native launcher, subjects, a market, and is a lot of another, we test and we write responses
download:http://uafile.com.ua/get/33693/
MIUI4.0.4 2.6.29 Dell Streak-Hot thing
http://narod.ru/disk/55304535001.9765abc6af956166f4cc913155ba2318/MIUI.us_DELL%20STREAK%205_v4_2.6.29.zip.html
Liwais said:
The new version works almost everything, phone, a native launcher, subjects, a market, and is a lot of another, we test and we write responses
download:http://uafile.com.ua/get/33693/
MIUI4.0.4 2.6.29 Dell Streak-Hot thing
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How about mobile data and camera?
sinan33 said:
How about mobile data and camera?
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the camera doesn't work, Wi-Fi works, Data works for me
ı can not download the file
When i click on download it begins to download a file called "download.bin"
sinan33 said:
ı can not download the file
When i click on download it begins to download a file called "download.bin"
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put a tick slightly below the button to download
added the reference still
Thank you!
I am downloading now.
Looks good! Seems to have the same bugs as the other ICS ROM, but a great start nonetheless!
Liwais,
Good work, man. This latest ROM is definitely better than previous ones. Aside from the typical things that are not working, like camera, for example, the transitions and response is considerably better but obviously not ready for extensive daily use just yet. I will provide more detailed report later on. But just wanted to say "thank you" for your hard work.
Hello
Hello guys... i wanna know how to install this rom. via streakmod recovery ? or what ? pls tell me step by step procedure to make a flashing on this DS 5.
Yes, using StreakMod recovery.
1) Do a Nandroid backup.
2) Clear Dalvik, Cache and Factory Reset from StreakMod.
3) Factory reset from main recovery menu. This step isn't always necessary, but doesn't hurt.
4) Flash this zip. Also flash gapps and superuser.zip from the other ICS thread for Google Apps and root.
5) Reboot and enjoy ICS MIUI!
Sent from my Dell Streak using Tapatalk 2
Edrill said:
Yes, using StreakMod recovery.
1) Do a Nandroid backup.
2) Clear Dalvik, Cache and Factory Reset from StreakMod.
3) Factory reset from main recovery menu. This step isn't always necessary, but doesn't hurt.
4) Flash this zip. Also flash gapps and superuser.zip from the other ICS thread for Google Apps and root.
5) Reboot and enjoy ICS MIUI!
Sent from my Dell Streak using Tapatalk 2
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Also don't forget to flash the correct version of radio and baseband if you are coming from Froyo..
???
ncik said:
Also don't forget to flash the correct version of radio and baseband if you are coming from Froyo..
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where to download ???
Thanks Mate !
Edrill said:
Yes, using StreakMod recovery.
1) Do a Nandroid backup.
2) Clear Dalvik, Cache and Factory Reset from StreakMod.
3) Factory reset from main recovery menu. This step isn't always necessary, but doesn't hurt.
4) Flash this zip. Also flash gapps and superuser.zip from the other ICS thread for Google Apps and root.
5) Reboot and enjoy ICS MIUI!
Sent from my Dell Streak using Tapatalk 2
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Thanks for ur reply.
I got a DS 5 from my bro yesterday and i want to flash ROMs on it.
But i still don't know after i've finished ROMs on Ds 5 , is it easy to downgrade or move back to the official ROMs?
Firstly i got this one in 2.2 and now i got updated to 2.3.3 from other xda thread. So Pls answer me whether i should try flashing these ROMs or not ? Any help appreciated..! :laugh:

installing new CM stable ?? over CM 4.2.2

I'm already running CM jelly bean... this is just the new updated stable one....
I guess my real question is what's the best way about flashing this rom
1) Reboot into recovery
2) Wipe data
3) Install ROM
4) Install GAAPS
5) Clear cachse/dalvik/etc.
6) reboot
?
(my volume up key doesn't work but i can get into recovery np)
yep.....seems about right.
dligon said:
yep.....seems about right.
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Well bricked my phone (sort of)
I got the (Status 7)
installation aborted error
I used the att CM file which is compatible with the Bell version in Canada.
Can someone please help ?
Funkadelick said:
I'm already running CM jelly bean... this is just the new updated stable one....
I guess my real question is what's the best way about flashing this rom
1) Reboot into recovery
2) Wipe data
3) Install ROM
4) Install GAAPS
5) Clear cachse/dalvik/etc.
6) reboot
?
(my volume up key doesn't work but i can get into recovery np)
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Im surprised you haven't been roasted yet for posting this in development...
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2Tone5 said:
Im surprised you haven't been roasted yet for posting this in development...
Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk 2
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Should be. Especially considering he posted it in q&a too
jd1639 said:
Should be. Especially considering he posted it in q&a too
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^^THIS^^

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