[App/1.5+/Open-source/Root and Non-root] Permanent screen off for the Visual Impaired - Android Software Development

Open source app development project: Permanent screen off for the Visual Impaired
Short summary
This is an app development project that turns off the Android screen permanently yet keeps the touchscreen and other features active and functional for the visual impaired.
Introduction & Goals of the project
There are many Android users who are blinded. And to them, they access the app mainly using TalkBack or other Screen Reader app. That also means that the screen is basically useless to them. They don't need to look at the screen yet they need to be able to use touchscreen.
This project is to create an app that will turn the screen completely off (100% off) yet let the user use the phone as normal.
Assuming that the blind takes more time than normal user to perform an action, it dramatically saves the device's battery.
The app must be easy to use and tailored to visual impaired user.
The app automatically runs with the device.
The app must be free and advertisement-free.
Background
I am the developer of the project and I recruit the interest of other developers / users as well. I am the developer of Screen Standby app, which this project is based on.
Device requirements
- Running Android 1.5 (Cupcake) or above
- (Optionally) Rooted for best battery-saving. The app works with non-root device though, only rooted device achieves complete dark
Instruction
1) Download the apk and Install the app
2) Run the app at least once
3) Select Enable app from menu
4) If the system asks for Superuser access, select always remember and allow
5) To disable, select "Disable app" from the menu and restart the device.
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NOTE: Please read
1) Always use a screen reader (e.g TalkBack) with the app. In case you want to use your device without the screen
2) This app will permanently switch the device's screen off when it is active. To turns the screen back on, select "Disable app" or uninstall app completely and reboot
3) To uninstall from ADB, go to a shell and type: adb uninstall com.nkahoang.screenoffvisualimpair
Download
Currently the app can be downloaded from attachment section of this post. When it is stable enough, it will be ready to be released on Play Store for free download.
Source code can be downloaded in second post
If you know any Android user who is blinded, let them use the app and report. Any feedback is welcomed

Source code of the app
App's source code can be downloaded from here
Disclaimer: Source code can be used only for non-commercial projects

Great idea. Good luck.
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As the guy above me said. G great idea which actually will help some people. But I don't think that many actually blind people are going to find this app unfortunately... You have to put it on Google play and name it in such way that blind people will find it
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Hello,
While putting it on the Play store is a good idea, there are a few blind folks on XDA like myself who would be happy to give this app some testing beforehand.
Thanks for posting to the eyes-free list, and thanks for developing this app!

correct this is also needs to be on the playstore as screen off or something easy that some of us can find more easily on the playstore . all of us blind people thank you for the app that hav found it but for those who cant can you please turn it into an APK installer or make it easy to install from playstore. as a lot of blind people don't know how to install zip files on android. if you can give me a quick tutorial I can explain to the eyes free list. I am a blind intermediate user of android. I do understand rooting, installing custom roms and gapps and installing apps for rooted devices but some of the rest on the eyes fre are a bit limited here so if you can give them an APK installable file it would be much easier to install rather then a zip package in which they have to figure out what to do with it.

mrk2815 said:
correct this is also needs to be on the playstore as screen off or something easy that some of us can find more easily on the playstore . all of us blind people thank you for the app that hav found it but for those who cant can you please turn it into an APK installer or make it easy to install from playstore. as a lot of blind people don't know how to install zip files on android. if you can give me a quick tutorial I can explain to the eyes free list. I am a blind intermediate user of android. I do understand rooting, installing custom roms and gapps and installing apps for rooted devices but some of the rest on the eyes fre are a bit limited here so if you can give them an APK installable file it would be much easier to install rather then a zip package in which they have to figure out what to do with it.
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Hi,
I sure will put it on play store once it is stable. The app is currently in development.
The zip file is for the source code of the app. I attached the apk on the very first post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1926833&d=1367394050
Regards

Well done OP.
You are a hero for undertaking this venture. I wish you more success.

I still might have a use for this in my Android devices that I'm using as Network Cameras using the IP Webcam app.
But I will have to test it out to see if it acts the way I need it to (I'm not at home yet, but I will try it.)
On Android 2.x I'm able to have a camera app run fine in the background or with the screen off, but on Android 4.0 and newer, the camera doesn't work completely if you turn off the screen or switch to a different app.
I'm wondering, will this app allow me to have the screen completely off (on a rooted device) but still have the camera use all the processor it needs for perfect Network Camera functionality?
Thanks.

HwyXingFrog said:
I still might have a use for this in my Android devices that I'm using as Network Cameras using the IP Webcam app.
But I will have to test it out to see if it acts the way I need it to (I'm not at home yet, but I will try it.)
On Android 2.x I'm able to have a camera app run fine in the background or with the screen off, but on Android 4.0 and newer, the camera doesn't work completely if you turn off the screen or switch to a different app.
I'm wondering, will this app allow me to have the screen completely off (on a rooted device) but still have the camera use all the processor it needs for perfect Network Camera functionality?
Thanks.
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The camera will continue functioning normally. However, you may want to consider using my other app, Screen Standby # Root, also on XDA to achieve that. This app is tailored specifically to aid the blind in particular.

nkahoang i dont know if you got my email i sent a while back but i was looking for a app like this but be able to close my tablet and plug a keyboard and a mouse into my dock and hook it up to my tv and use my tv as a monitor screens cracked and touchscreen capability are all down the drain, would be great if you could add this feature to this app so i could finally find a use for my tablet again and as always keep up the good work.:good::fingers-crossed:

I have another use that I would like to ask for. Could you integrate Tasker support? I ride a motorcycle and have a bluetooth kit installed on my helmet. I leave my phone in my pocket or a glove box and therefore the screen is of no use to me. Yet if I ask Google Now to navigate somewhere, it opens navigation that keeps the screen on draining battery quickly. This really sucks as I don't have an outlet to plug into while riding. So, if I could setup a profile to activate this app while riding and disable it when I'm done, that could help me out a lot.

hello I was wondering I there has been further development on this app.
Lots of blind users are wondering about eh app development.
Since ther is no info a bit oncerning .
I know tha you develop the screen root stand by primarly but can you also devot e some development ot he app for he blind as well.
thanks for your development efforts

Hello, Now I am using Shades app by the eyes free team at Google. That is an app published to the google play. However after reading the description in the first post I think this app might be capable of saving more of the battery juice. I have just installed it on my SGS2 running CM-10 however if this is already know I would like to ensure this is really more powerfull than the Shades app I was tallking about.
Thanks and greetings
Peter

Related

[SECURITY ALERT!] DroidDream Malware Found in Official Android Market

Google pulls 56 malicious apps from Android Marketplace
original source: http://blog.mylookout.com/2011/03/s...-found-in-official-android-market-droiddream/
List of malicious Android App that steals your information and download additional craps to your phone
Full list Developed by “Myournet”:
Falling Down
Super Guitar Solo
Super History Eraser
Photo Editor
Super Ringtone Maker
Super Sex Positions
Hot Sexy Videos
Chess
下坠滚球_Falldown
Hilton Sex Sound
Screaming Sexy Japanese Girls
Falling Ball Dodge
Scientific Calculator
Dice Roller
躲避弹球
Advanced Currency Converter
App Uninstaller
几何战机_PewPew
Funny Paint
Spider Man
蜘蛛侠
Full list Developed by “Kingmall2010″:
Bowling Time
Advanced Barcode Scanner
Supre Bluetooth Transfer
Task Killer Pro
Music Box
Sexy Girls: Japanese
Sexy Legs
Advanced File Manager
Magic Strobe Light
致命绝色美腿
墨水坦克Panzer Panic
裸奔先生Mr. Runner
软件强力卸载
Advanced App to SD
Super Stopwatch & Timer
Advanced Compass Leveler
Best password safe
掷骰子
多彩绘画
Full list Developed by “we20090202″:
Finger Race
Piano
Bubble Shoot
Advanced Sound Manager
Magic Hypnotic Spiral
Funny Face
Color Blindness Test
Tie a Tie
Quick Notes
Basketball Shot Now
Quick Delete Contacts
Omok Five in a Row
Super Sexy Ringtones
大家来找茬
桌上曲棍球
投篮高手
Personal warning I'll also include AppsPlanet into those list if I were you.
Any views as to whether installing Norton, MacAfee or similar would have picked these up?
Hey Allgamer,
Thanks for the great post / update!!!
Just wondering how much you are selling your Galaxy S for? Please PM me and let me know.
Thanks,
yiannisthegreek
In case you have installed them.
Google spikes 21 malicious apps with big download counts from the Market
Google just removed some 21 apps from the Market in the last day from a publisher going by Myournet for doing all sorts of naughty things to your device. Offenses include attempting to root your phone, uploading phone information (including IMEI) to who-knows-where, and -- most egregiously -- adding a backdoor that allows additional code to be pulled down and executed.
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List of his apps (may not be all)
http://www.androidzoom.com/android_developer/myournet_thqw.html
Auzy said:
The source appears to be: http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/02/google-spikes-21-malicious-apps-from-the-market-with-big-downloa/
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And Mashable
http://mashable.com/2011/03/01/android-malware-apps/
You should ALWAYS read the forum before posting
Rofa1 said:
Any views as to whether installing Norton, MacAfee or similar would have picked these up?
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Any of the well known Antivirus app for android should have picked it up.
I used to think we'll never need an AntiVirus app for Android... well think again.
after reading the article i downloaded all of them to run a full scan and the results are good
I scanned my phone and it's all clean
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Should one of these apps had been installed already (Photo Editor), is there something else I can do ... other than flashing ?
Thx
AvalonGamer said:
Should one of these apps had been installed already (Photo Editor), is there something else I can do ... other than flashing ?
Thx
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you can simply un-install it, it doesn't really do anything to your phone until you run the app
and even if you did, uninstalling it will remove the problem
Flashing the phone is a bit over the top it's enough to do a system wipe if you want to be 100% sure, and then restore all your apps from backup, excluding the fake ones
Waiting for ESET to debut on Android platform...
kunjar said:
Waiting for ESET to debut on Android platform...
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+1
This reminded me to reinstall lookout after fresh flash.
AllGamer said:
you can simply un-install it, it doesn't really do anything to your phone until you run the app
and even if you did, uninstalling it will remove the problem
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This is actually an incomplete answer.
As noted on Android Police, (I'm new so I can't link there) these apps open a backdoor, which can download additional apps that can do *anything*. The original app doesn't do much on its own. But, removing the infected app will leave behind the additional malware introduced through the backdoor.
Is there anyone who knows if these apps actually worked? What I mean is if the games for example were actually games? The reason I ask is that there is a bubble shoot like game installed on a friends phone which works (not sure if it's the one mentioned above).
So would you be able to recognize that malicious app in that way?
Edit: just noticed on the Lookout Blog that they actively send out a patch to detect these apps (if I read it correctly):
http://blog.mylookout.com/2011/03/s...-found-in-official-android-market-droiddream/
So if you have not yet scanned for those apps, do it now ;-)
Thanks for the information!
How to remove and consequences
First i manyally uninstalled the "Advanced Barcode Scanner" of KingMall2010.
Second i scanned my device with Kasparsky and Lookout, both didn't find any threads.
In the end i performed a reset to factory settings and a format of my SD-card.
Can anyone please tell me if this actions are sufficient to completely whipe this malware of my device?
Also i would like to know if this malware actively sent my private data to servers, or that it just opened a backdoor for later use. And if my data is already sent, what are the consequences and which actions should i take to do something about it.
traumaheli said:
First i manyally uninstalled the "Advanced Barcode Scanner" of KingMall2010.
Second i scanned my device with Kasparsky and Lookout, both didn't find any threads.
In the end i performed a reset to factory settings and a format of my SD-card.
Can anyone please tell me if this actions are sufficient to completely whipe this malware of my device?
Also i would like to know if this malware actively sent my private data to servers, or that it just opened a backdoor for later use. And if my data is already sent, what are the consequences and which actions should i take to do something about it.
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What you've done so far seems sufficient enough to clear the malware from your phone system. Even if it copied a backup on your SD card (internal & external) if you've wiped both then it should be ok.
In regards to already leaked data, I would immediately change my passwords to gmail, emails, facebook, ebay etc or any other site that you may have used on your phone.
silverstorm said:
What you've done so far seems sufficient enough to clear the malware from your phone system. Even if it copied a backup on your SD card (internal & external) if you've wiped both then it should be ok.
In regards to already leaked data, I would immediately change my passwords to gmail, emails, facebook, ebay etc or any other site that you may have used on your phone.
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Thanks for your quick reaction. It makes me a little more comfortable. Indeed i already changed my password's.
I already called my phone provider, but apparently could not tell me whether the IMSI (international mobile subscription identity) and SIM card serial number are sufficient information to clone my SIM card. This is the information that would be sent by the malware to remote servers.
Therefor after work i go to get a new SIM card. It's better to be safe than sory after all.
I'm still not convinced on running a constant anti-malware app on my phone. Even with a good processor, my cpu cycles are a precious resource to keep my phone running light and fast.
How heavy on system performance is lookout? Does it only activate and scan when new material is installed?
Lookout scans when u download or install any app on your phone, i havent noticed it running unless im installing
Intlstyle said:
Lookout scans when u download or install any app on your phone, i havent noticed it running unless im installing
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yes, it only runs after you install a new app from market
i installed it after reading about the news, before that, i had no reason to worry about the stuff i download from the official android market
Much thanks for the heads up on this issue!
my question is what is the deal with app planet? i have it installed on my phone along with another app mentioned on the list...why would app planet be something to be worried about???
(P.S. im about five minutes away from wipeing my phone spottless clean thx for the Alert!!!!!)

[APP]AutoFolders - Automatic applications organizer

These days, the number of apps on my phone took a hundred. It's hard to navigate through apps. So I decided to develop new app, which will sort all the apps and create a folder of apps by category on your phone's Home Screen. I found out that there's no such app on Market. Yes, there are apps with which you can do it all manually (Apps Organizer, Folder Organizer, etc). But dragging all 120 apps to folders by category, it's too bad. So I decided to develop my app sorter.
Tasks, features to be performed by the sorter.
Automatically sort applications by category (how to do this is the topic of another post).
Gives you possibility to create your own own categories.
Enables the correct choice of the category, if app categories choosen wrong it.
Developing such an app has took couple of nights, and now I can show you the first alpha version. While it's raw, may slow down in some places, it will all be fixed closer to release. And now I need your help in testing the app, mostly to improve definition of app categories. I think that if the app will determine at least 50% of application categories correctly, it will be excellent result (in the intelligence app not too much).
Here is a link to the application: autofolders.apk
How to use the application.
Usability and design of the app still unfinished, as it's alpha version. It will all be fixed closer to release. In the meantime, test its intellectual abilities.
How to make it work?
Install the application on the link above
Start it
Wait 10 seconds before the application will find all of your apps and display them.
Each app will be indicated in the list of its category.
Look at the percentage of wrong app category selections.
How to create a folder of apps on your home screen?
Tap and hold on the free space on home screen and choose-> Select Shortcut -> AutoFolders -> Select the category you want to add.
Thanks for your help.
UPD. The list of categories which can determine
Communications
Tools
Play (have some problems with them)
Others
UPD1.
Roadmap
Category recognition improved
Number of recognizable categories increased
Ability to add mass change of categories (manually)
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new version
autofolders.apk
Finally! Somebody with an idea that WILL change android for the rest if it's days. Am I allowed to include this in my own custom roms?
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Curious, does your app pull categories from the android Market like livesorter?
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benjamingwynn said:
Finally! Somebody with an idea that WILL change android for the rest if it's days. Am I allowed to include this in my own custom roms?
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Yes) Thanks)
cbeck said:
Curious, does your app pull categories from the android Market like livesorter?
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No, there is using alghorithm
Is it compatible with Sense 3.5?
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raider3bravo said:
Is it compatible with Sense 3.5?
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yes) ofcourse
some minor fixes, please check apk file from 2nd post.
It doesn't recognise games like reckless racing, sentinel. Very nice try though
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liquidini said:
It doesn't recognise games like reckless racing, sentinel. Very nice try though
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App
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I am working on it.
App folders aren't opening.
Sent from somewhere too far away from my computer
Dude, your waaaay too late on this. This has already been done and a very good app already exists.......
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.utility.autoapporganizer&hl=en
TheATHEiST said:
Dude, your waaaay too late on this. This has already been done and a very good app already exists.......
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.utility.autoapporganizer&hl=en
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You could had said the same to the maker of Angry Bird, they where not the first to do a destroy the castle type game... that's the beauty of Android if you want to make the 99th fart game on the market it's allowed, Apple should be sued for fart discrimination
TheATHEiST said:
Dude, your waaaay too late on this. This has already been done and a very good app already exists.......
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.utility.autoapporganizer&hl=en
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And I use three different note apps on my phone. Different apps have different strengths, I will be trying this and look forward too seeing how it develops.
@Mecid8
Keep up the good work and don't let negative comments pull you down. It may have been done before, but that doesn't mean you can't do it better.
Sent from my GT-I9100
TheATHEiST said:
Dude, your waaaay too late on this. This has already been done and a very good app already exists.......
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.utility.autoapporganizer&hl=en
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Im... on the fence about that app. I cant understand why it would need to read my sensitive log data, or install anything directly.. So im rather glad for this app, I'll be giving it a try in just a little bit.
Sorry guys, AutoAppOrganizer is there and I am surprised that this app turns up on the main landing page of XDA.
No offence, but guys with programming talent should utilize it better. In particular, before starting a project, check whether something similar exists already.
No, Angry Birds analogy does NOT work here. Games are different from apps. You might need three versions of Angry Birds (I know I do) but I just need ONE SMS app, for example.
And I am also not a fan of the spontaneous 'support' that springs up in response to any adverse comments. 'Permissions' seems to be the scapegoat used to discredit CLEARLY SUPERIOR apps. Sorry guys, its doubly unfair to the app creator.
talhamid said:
Sorry guys, AutoAppOrganizer is there and I am surprised that this app turns up on the main landing page of XDA.
No offence, but guys with programming talent should utilize it better. In particular, before starting a project, check whether something similar exists already.
No, Angry Birds analogy does NOT work here. Games are different from apps. You might need three versions of Angry Birds (I know I do) but I just need ONE SMS app, for example.
And I am also not a fan of the spontaneous 'support' that springs up in response to any adverse comments. 'Permissions' seems to be the scapegoat used to discredit CLEARLY SUPERIOR apps. Sorry guys, its doubly unfair to the app creator.
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The "permissions" thing I stated isn't a scapegoat to discredit the developer. It's an actual concern. I mean I can fully understand it needing internet access, to check the list of apps against an internet database to see which app should be sorted into which category. But not the mass majority of the rest. "autoapps organizer" should essentially be an automated version of "apps organizer" yet "apps organizer" requires NO SPECIAL PERMISSIONS. So why in the @*#$ does it need to know my location, to read my logs, the devices serial/phone number, the ability to modify internal memory or have the ability to install apps.
So, i am rather glad someone decided to develop an auto sorting app. Because I am not going to use AutoAppOrganizer. Not when it requires the following permissions;
Your location
Coarse (network-based) Location
Access coarse location sources such as the cellular network database to determine an approximate device location, where available. Malicious applications can use this to determine approximately where you are.
Network communication
Full Internet Access
Allows an application to create network sockets.
Your Personal Information
Read Sensitive Log Data
Allows an application to read from the system's various log files. This allows it to discover general information about what you are doing with the device, potentially including personal or private information.
Phone Calls
Read Phone State and Identity
Allows the application to access the phone features of the device. An application with this permission can determine the phone number and serial number of this phone, whether a call is active, the number that call is connected to and the like.
Storage
Modify/Delete USB Storage Contents modify/Delete SD Card Contents
Allows an application to write to the USB storage. Allows an application to write to the SD card.
System Tools
Retrieve Running Applications
Allows application to retrieve information about currently and recently running tasks. May allow malicious applications to discover private information about other applications.
Prevent Device From Sleeping
Allows an application to prevent the device from going to sleep.
Network Communication
View Network State
Allows an application to view the state of all networks.
System Tools
Automatically Start At Boot
Allows an application to have itself started as soon as the system has finished booting. This can make it take longer to start the device and allow the application to slow down the overall device by always running.
Default
Directly Install Applications
Allows an application to install new or updated Android packages. Malicious applications can use this to add new applications with arbitrarily powerful permissions.
P00r said:
You could had said the same to the maker of Angry Bird, they where not the first to do a destroy the castle type game... that's the beauty of Android if you want to make the 99th fart game on the market it's allowed, Apple should be sued for fart discrimination
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Yes I know that but I guess my comment was more related to the fact that this has been posted on front page, as if it was something brand new and not been done before.
Also your point about Angry birds is flawed and irrelevant.
This app is awesome just a small suggestion, maybe you could introduce themes to the app so that people may customize the look of the folders to match their homescreen Keep up the great work

Epson Moverio BT-200 Wearable Display

Dear all,
my device landed yesterday in Europe and it should be delivered today... I am speaking about the long-awaited Epson Moverio BT-200, the Wearable display way according to Epson.
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I would like to set an official thread to discuss about it as well to look a way to help eveyone with that new device.
Official Webpage: http://www.epson.eu/ix/en/viewcon/corporatesite/products/mainunits/overview/12411
XDA's news: http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...ion-tracking-camera-stereoscopic-qhd-display/
An introducing video...
Features List:
The only affordable¹, binocular, see-through smart glasses on the market - perfect for unlocking the potential of augmented reality
Perceived image of up to 320 inches in qHD resolution
Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 3.0 and Miracast² connectivity
Built-in sensors including a camera, gyroscope, GPS, accelerometer and microphone
1.2 GHz dual core processor and 1GB RAM
8GB internal memory, with the ability to add up to 32GB of additional memory with an SD card
Battery life of up to six hours
Runs on Android 4.0.4
Dolby Digital Plus immerses users in cinematic surround sound
Compact and light design
Watch side-by-side 3D content
-- for the moderators, please move that thread in the best place, I did a search before to publish and I found only a BT-100 thread in the FAQ area.
Dear all,
finally, I got them...
I was able to install play store on mine.
First, needs root. The only one I found that worked was Baidu Root here.
http://root.baidu.com/
Once it's rooted, I installed Super SU
http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.supersu
After Super SU, install Root Browser
http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jrummy.root.browserfree
After Root Browser is installed, download CM9 Gapps to your pc.
http://goo.im/gapps/gapps-ics-20120429-signed.zip
Unzip the zip file, and copy GoogleServicesFramework.apk and Phonesky.apk to the device.
edit: also copy GoogleLoginService.apk
Open Root Browser, and copy GoogleServicesFramework.apk and Phonesky.apk from wherever you copied it to /system/app. You cannot just install the play store APK's normally, they must be copied to /system/app. Change permissions to match other apps. Shut down device and restart. Play store should be in app drawer now. After running, it should auto update to latest play store version.
Overall, pretty good. Still some apps show as incompatible (such as chrome, sadly), but light years ahead of the BT100's play store compatibility. Plus I can always backup and side-load apps from my phone for any that show as incompatible on BT200. Quickpic works fine, diceplayer works fine. Great for some SMB movie streaming from my file server. Touchpad input is annoying as hell to use. If you stroke the very very edge of the touch-pad, it works as single line scroll. May be able to remap these later to back or home buttons, but then again if I use an external BT keyboard I'm afraid it might remap the cursor keys too. The visor lens is a little tricky to remove, you don't unscrew it, you pull it outward (if you were wearing the device, pull away from your eyes) by 2mm until it clicks then pull downward.
I don't know if you noticed, I don't see it in your pics, I have a clear visor lens included in the pocket here.
Also, the moverio camera quality absolutely blows.
alcuin,
first of all thenks for your suggests, I will add them in the main post. Yes... on my package I missed the clear visor lens you speak about. Could I have a picture of that accessory? I would contact Epson to get it back.
For the Software Development Kit, developers can work with the Wikitude SDK, a stand-alone (really priced sincerely, €2,499) package optimized for the BT-200.
It is possible to download a trial version of the Wikitude SDK (last update 3.2.2 - (24.02.2014)) after the registration from here: http://www.wikitude.com/download
It's a maintenance release as reported by the log: http://www.wikitude.com/developer/news/-/blogs/maintenance-update-wikitude-sdk-3-2-1
and I have some dubts if it is the same version of the commercial one as really outdated.
The Epson Moverio Documentation: http://www.wikitude.com/developer/documentation/epson
The Developers Forum, but without a specific area for our wearable glasses: http://www.wikitude.com/developer/developer-forum
Will post the lens pic, I keep forgetting when I go home from work, sorry about that
alcuin said:
Will post the lens pic, I keep forgetting when I go home from work, sorry about that
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alcuin, don't worry. I should get my glass within that week as my dad sent it before to snap the pictures (I am working outside my hometown).
Here it is finally. I was wrong though, it's not a clear lens that's included; it's a darker lens, and one insert for using prescription lenses. If you want clear, just take off all the lenses.
My first 3 videos, Italian language, english version soon:
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eCIcU0DLps&list=UUdUIW8n4WXvS3DJNH46y9qQ
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMhbIMfR-Jc&list=UUdUIW8n4WXvS3DJNH46y9qQ
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfx_f7RwHyc&list=UUdUIW8n4WXvS3DJNH46y9qQ
@alcuin: I have also them, I confirm.
Dear sev7en,would you tell me what the width of the BT-200 ? Thanks.
babyfish0226 said:
Dear seven,would you tell me what the width of the BT-200 ? Thanks. I can't find any detail on google.
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Dear babyfish0226,
I did a review but it is en Italian language... now I rooted the glass and I have installed the Google Play and some apps just for testing. Sincerely I am not happy for that and I guess the Google Glass will outshine it quickly as the target is not the casual user than the professional. It isn't wearable for the "brick" you have to pick with you and the result of the projection is far from my old Sony HUD (HMZ-T2).
I have to play it more, I have to look into the core apps for more details but as Prelaunch product is really premature.
installing apk
Dear seniormember,
I purchased the Moverio BT200, but do not manage to install any apk files. For example, i tried tot install de astro filemager apk
Do you have any suggestions?
Thanks
Barend
BarenddeArend said:
Dear seniormember,
I purchased the Moverio BT200, but do not manage to install any apk files. For example, i tried tot install de astro filemager apk
Do you have any suggestions?
Thanks
Barend
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Dear Barend,
for the installation of extenal files, you have to enable the option for the untrusted sources. You are able to install APK without the root rights.
Look at here for 4.x: http://papidroid.com/2013/12/12/how-to-install-apk-files-on-your-android-phone-or-tablet/
Cheers,
usb debugging
Hello Sev7en,
thanks for the help. I manged to install App-installer.
Yet I have an other question.
Normally in Settings, options fo developers, one can enable Usb-debugging. But in the Moverio there is no such option.
Do I miss something?
greetings,
Barend
BarenddeArend said:
Hello Sev7en,
thanks for the help. I manged to install App-installer.
Yet I have an other question.
Normally in Settings, options fo developers, one can enable Usb-debugging. But in the Moverio there is no such option.
Do I miss something?
greetings,
Barend
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Dear Barend,
you have to enable the developer mode to have that option. You can do that looking by look into that guide (just to tap the About...): http://techverse.net/enable-usb-debugging-android-4-3-phones-tablets/
Has anyone tethered to an iPhone successfully?
I just unpacked my BT200 this weekend and ran through the forums and managed to get the google play store and root access.
I am trying to tether my BT200 to my iPhone 5's personal hotspot. When I try via bluetooth, it reboots. If I try it again, it will show connected and the "use this device for internet" will be checked -- but I don't seem to have any connectivity. I don't see any network stats and none of my apps see a network connection.
If I try to use the iPhone's wifi, it will detect it at excellent strength, but once I try to connect, it reports the strength and poor and cycled connecting, disconnecting, and connecting over and over again until I forget the network or use another wifi.
Otherwise, I am able to connect to wifi. And I have tested the iPhone hotspot (bluetooth and wifi) with another android device. So I know that it works.
Has anyone else been able to tether to an iPhone?
playstore and root acces on moverio bt200
Hi Lacodemonkey,
can You tell me how You managed to get the google play store and root access on the Moverio BT200?
I even can not enable usb debugging...
Thanks
Barend
LAcodemonkey said:
I just unpacked my BT200 this weekend and ran through the forums and managed to get the google play store and root access.
I am trying to tether my BT200 to my iPhone 5's personal hotspot. When I try via bluetooth, it reboots. If I try it again, it will show connected and the "use this device for internet" will be checked -- but I don't seem to have any connectivity. I don't see any network stats and none of my apps see a network connection.
If I try to use the iPhone's wifi, it will detect it at excellent strength, but once I try to connect, it reports the strength and poor and cycled connecting, disconnecting, and connecting over and over again until I forget the network or use another wifi.
Otherwise, I am able to connect to wifi. And I have tested the iPhone hotspot (bluetooth and wifi) with another android device. So I know that it works.
Has anyone else been able to tether to an iPhone?
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Hi Sev7en,
Thanks for your help again, but unfortunately it did not work.
The buildnr on the Moverio is R1.0.0 and when i tap ten times on it, no Usb debugging appears.
Do You have any other suggestions?
greetings
Barend
Google Playstore
To get google play, I followed mostly the directions from: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52652576&postcount=3
First: install the amazon app store and get winzip
http://www.amazon.com/mobile-apps/b?node=2350149011
You can install the amazon app store and get apps from there immediately without anything special. From there I installed winzip, which you will need later.
Second: root your phone.
Google for Baidu 2001 apk
(http://www13.zippyshare.com/v/62451397/file.html)
This program will unlock your ability to use root access on the phone. It is in Chinese, so just press the obvious blue button. If it turns green, you are good.
Third: Install and run SuperSU
Goodle supersu apk
(http://www.appsapk.com/supersu/)
This program allows programs to request root access (which you unlocked with Baidu) and to use it. So you will need this to access your system files.
Fourth: Install a Root File Browser
Google jrummy browserfree.apk
(http://storage.evozi.com/apk/dl/14/05/12/com.jrummy.root.browserfree.apk?vc=223)
This is a file browser that knows how to use SuperSU, so when you try to copy files into your /system/apps folder, it can get root permissions and do this.
Fifth: Download the google play package and unzip
Download: http://goo.im/gapps/gapps-ics-20120429-signed.zip
This is the proprietary google android stuff that Moverio didn't include. (see more details at http://wiki.rootzwiki.com/Google_Apps)
Use the winzip to unzip this file into your downloads folder.
Now use the JRummy Browser free to copy the following files from:
your_download/system/app/GoogleLoginService.apk
your_download/system/app/GoogleServicesFramework.apk
your_download/system/app/Phonesky.apk
to /system/app/
Sixth: reboot
When you go to the shop link, you should now see the google play store.
Thanks Lacodemonkey,
I will try it.
usb debug option on moverio bt-200
did you succeeded in unlocking usb debug option? I also tried multiple taps on the build number but nothing happened.
thanks,
luigi.
BarenddeArend said:
Hi Lacodemonkey,
can You tell me how You managed to get the google play store and root access on the Moverio BT200?
I even can not enable usb debugging...
Thanks
Barend
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Hi Sev7en,
Thanks for your help again, but unfortunately it did not work.
The buildnr on the Moverio is R1.0.0 and when i tap ten times on it, no Usb debugging appears.
Do You have any other suggestions?
greetings
Barend
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I have no USB Debugging Mode, too. And I can't activate it with the tapping trick.
Is there another possiblity to activate the USB Debugging option?
PS: I already contacted Epson but i didn't receive any answer yet.

[Tutorial] How to use your Windows Phone as a head tracking device for PC games

What you need
A Windows Phone with accelerometer and compass (magnetometer). (Gyroscope not required - but makes every movement smoother and more accurate)
App Headtrackr ($2, full featured trial available)
PC
Opensource software opentrack
A pc game that supports FreeTrack/TrackIR or a similar protocol (e.g. Star Citizen, Elite: Dangerous, Euro Truck Simulator 2 and many more)
headband / hair tie / tape or something similar strap your phone to your head / headphones / headset (see pictures at the end for examples)
Video of head tracking with Headtrackr in Star Citizen:
Tutorial/Instructions also available as PDF and Word document here: www.headtrackr.com/instructions
And available in german here: www.headtrackr.de/instructions
First of
Please note, Headtrackr only transmits your movements to your PC. The desktop application opentrack then relays the movements to your game via different protocols (most commonly freetrack). I, the developer of Headtrackr, am not affiliated with the developers of opentrack or freetrack.
If a game does not support head tracking you have to contact the developer of that game and ask them to implement freetrack! I will not be able to do anything.
To test whether the game you would like to use head tracking with works, you can install the free trial version of Headtrackr!
Instructions
Setup
Install Headtrackr
Preconfigured download of opentrack 2.3 rc5: View attachment opentrack_2.3_rc5_d.zip Onedrive mirror: here.
The latest version of opentrack can always be downloaded from the official site here.
Please note: All tested versions will be listed below. It’s not guaranteed newer untested versions work with headtrackr!
Open the Zip file and extract it to a location of your liking. No installation needed.
Configuration
You can download a preconfiguration file here (right click -> save as)
Save it to the “settings” folder in your opentrack install folder and you can skip the opentrack config steps
Start opentrack.exe
Opentrack configuration steps
Select “UDP sender” as Tracker.
Tap on the “…” button on the right to select a port, in this example we’ll be using “4242” (If there are any problems with receiving data, change the port!).
If you have a firewall, you might need to allow this port in your firewall settings.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
On “Protocol” select “freetrack 2.0 Enhanced” for most games. Some games only support other protocols but freetrack is the most common.
On “Filter” select “Accela”. Tap on “…” and set a small value for both “Rotation smoothing” and “Translation smoothing” as seen below. This will filter out any inaccuracies from the sensors on your phone and make everything smoother.
Now on to the “Mapping” settings:
On the tabs “Yaw”, “Pitch” and “Roll” you can select a movement mapping. At the default mapping settings there is a 1:1 mapping, meaning you have to turn your head 180 degrees to move the view in your game 180 degrees. (This of course is not feasible since you can’t see the monitor anymore).
For all three I suggest a setting of 100:180 (see screenshots below)
Now on to settings that depend on how you strap your phone to your head and on the game you want to play
On the “Options” tab of the “Mapping” settings there are the “Output remap” settings.
Set Yaw, Roll and Pitch so, that your character follows your movements. If for example your character looks right, while you look left, you have to check “Invert” on “Yaw”. Same for looking up/down (Pitch) and rolling your head.
(You can also use the small octopus as a test before you start your game. It should move exactly like your in-game character)
Click the “Save” button to save these as your default settings.
Whenever you want to start tracking or testing, click “Start”.
Phone configuration steps
Unfortunately Windows Phone does not allow tracking movement with the display turned off. Because the display is one of the biggest battery drainers I would recommend the following (however, it is not needed for the app to work):
Turn your display brightness to the lowest setting (not needed with OLED displays)
Turn on Quiet mode, battery saver and/or airplane mode. This saves power and also ensures no interruption while playing.
Headtrackr setup
Make sure your phone’s WiFi is on and connected to the same network your PC is connected to.
Start Headtrackr
Tap on “Configuration” and enter your PC’s IP address and the port that was selected in opentrack.
That’s it, now you can test your connection:
Click on start in opentrack and then on “test connection” in Headtrackr. You should see the octopus turning left and right. If not, your connection is not working. Make sure you have entered the correct IP address / Port and both phone and pc are connected to the same network.
Save the configuration by pressing “Confirm”.
That’s it, you are now ready to start.
Tips and Tricks
Use the head shaking feature of Headtrackr to re-center your view in game. Simply shake your head and one second after the audio cue has played your view will take your current orientation as the new center value. In settings you can adjust the sensitivity of the head shake detection.
 
Known problems with opentrack and games
Tested opentrack versions: opentrack 2.3 rc5 and opentrack 2.3 rc9.
Please note: opentrack 2.3 is still in development and not withour errors.
Known problems with opentrack 2.3 rc5
“Output remap” can map one axis to another. (E.g. you can’t set that pitch means roll and roll means pitch)
Known problems with opentrack 2.3 rc9
On opentrack 2.3 rc9 and higher you have to first click “Start” in opentrack and then on the phone via “START TRACKING”. If you start tracking on your phone first, the re-centering feature of Headtrackr doesn’t work correctly.
Known problems with Star Citizen
At this moment, Star Citizen is still in alpha. Sometimes headtracking does not work. Restarting Star Citizen, opentrack and sometimes your pc can fix that problem. (Tests have shown that Star Citizen works better with opentrack 2.3 rc5 than the current newer versions)
Problem: No Text-To-Speech output in Headtrackr
Speech for your language has to be installed. Go to system settings -> language and make sure of that. If it’s not installed you can do that there.
Examples of how you can easily strap your phone to your head
Why did I develop Headtrackr?
I have always waited for a viable virtual reality headset. With Oculus Rift we might get one in a few months/years. But I just couldn't wait that long. Unfortunately the next best thing (TrackIR) costs way to much for me (180€). (Or rather: I think it costs way to much for the features it delivers)
I already had a Windows Phone and multiple apps released, so I developed Headtrackr as an alternative to TrackIR.
You might ask yourself: Why is Headtrackr so much cheaper than TrackIR? It must be pretty bad.
No, TrackIR is so expensive because you pay for the hardware as well as the software. With your phone you already have all the hardware you need and only need the software!
I personally can't go back to playing games like Star Citizen without head tracking.
If you find any bugs, have any questions or have any suggestions feel free to contact me in the comments, per pm, mail or from inside the app.
Links
Download: http://www.windowsphone.com/s?appid=11777f9d-9261-42e6-acc3-84e3046703bb
[QRCODE]http://www.windowsphone.com/s?appid=11777f9d-9261-42e6-acc3-84e3046703bb[/QRCODE]
http://www.headtrackr.com and http://www.headtrackr.de
The developer: www.dehodev.com
hi i am trying to use headtrackr with my phone acting both as an HMD/vr.headset and as an gyroscope data sender for opentrack..
my problem is that i can get headtrack to work in potrait mode but not in landscape with screen facing my face..
would be really awesome if Headtrackr could receive an update to fix this problem it would act not only as a headtracker device for freetrack games bu also for VR games !!
i hope that this can happen some day awesome app btw
greymouser said:
hi i am trying to use headtrackr with my phone acting both as an HMD/vr.headset and as an gyroscope data sender for opentrack..
my problem is that i can get headtrack to work in potrait mode but not in landscape with screen facing my face..
would be really awesome if Headtrackr could receive an update to fix this problem it would act not only as a headtracker device for freetrack games bu also for VR games !!
i hope that this can happen some day awesome app btw
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I noticed this problem a few months ago. I wrote a UWP version of Headtrackr with the goal to fix this problem and make it possible to work with VR games. The current version is still a WP8 app that can't work when it's not in the foreground, so it can't have any other app open (for streaming your pc's video output).
Unfortunately I hit a snag that I was unable to figure out. (Worked on it for 3-4 weeks) The sensor API in Windows 10 has this problem where when your phone is in landscape and you look in certain directions it suddenly changes axises and angles. I was unable to find any documentation on this issue. Why this happens, how this happens or how to compensate for it. It's one of the most frustrating things I have encountered. This problem did not exist in Wp7.5 or Wp8. I was planning on taking another look at it in a few weeks.
I was really confused, because I was reading everywhere on how this api is meant for VR and AR but could'nt find a single example that actually worked correctly without those issues.
i see so facing two problems here,
here is an idea how about adding VNC capability to headtrackr, this way there will be no reason to switch to a streaming app..
i also found this article seemed relevant.. especially the sensorbatching feature and readingtransform-initialize..
WP VR is really a lackluster unfortunately :/
Yeah, I solved the problem with background head tracking with the UWP app. That works by registering the app as an "ExtendedExecution" with LocationTracking as its type which allows the headtracking code to continue running while the streaming app is in foreground. (I also thought about creating a combined Headtracking and Streaming app, but for the time being that would take to long)
The article you linked is unfortunately useless. I read it a few months ago. At first I thought that would be the solution but in reality it doesn't change anything. Since then Microsoft seems to have released some online courses on the subject (https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-gb/mt715765.aspx). I'll go through them tomorrow to see how they solved the sensor problem.
Believe me, I would be more than happy to find a solution to this. I have been looking forward to try one of my devices as a VR device for some time.
greymouser said:
i see so facing two problems here,
here is an idea how about adding VNC capability to headtrackr, this way there will be no reason to switch to a streaming app..
i also found this article seemed relevant.. especially the sensorbatching feature and readingtransform-initialize..
WP VR is really a lackluster unfortunately :/
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I've created a stackoverflow post describing the problem with example source code. Hopefully someone can point me to a solution because unfortunately I still couldn't find any solution for this:
https://stackoverflow.com/questions...eird-undocumented-sensor-reading-jump-when-fa
Head tracking eh? Pretty slick! Keep up your progress guys.

custom ROM that is ultra ultra minimal... is it possible?

I am a noob to rooting, and flashing custom roms. However, I'm very computer literate.
I bought the Xperia X compact because it appeared flashing roms would be very possible.
I have a simply idea, I want to make a rom that is so ultra minimal many of you might think I'm crazy.
All I want it a phone with a black screen, one icon of each: phone, contacts, txt, calculator.
that is it. I don't want internet, I don't want GPS.. nothing. I don't want any trace of any company on my phone.
Think of it this way, I want a blank slate, like a new fresh computer, and I want to install the OS of my choice, with only the things I want. I can't seem to find anything like this(it may exist, but my searching of the web returns nothing close) Can someone please help me with this?
Thanks in advance.
Mike
matridium said:
I am a noob to rooting, and flashing custom roms. However, I'm very computer literate.
I bought the Xperia X compact because it appeared flashing roms would be very possible.
I have a simply idea, I want to make a rom that is so ultra minimal many of you might think I'm crazy.
All I want it a phone with a black screen, one icon of each: phone, contacts, txt, calculator.
that is it. I don't want internet, I don't want GPS.. nothing. I don't want any trace of any company on my phone.
Think of it this way, I want a blank slate, like a new fresh computer, and I want to install the OS of my choice, with only the things I want. I can't seem to find anything like this(it may exist, but my searching of the web returns nothing close) Can someone please help me with this?
Thanks in advance.
Mike
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install any OS you want, root, and delete system folders of whatever you don't want. Then, you can end up with a black screen and 4 apps and nothing else. However, there will never be 'no trace of any company' unless you build your own components and design your own os. Even the 4 apps you want are developed and installed by the os maker, and they run how they want tjem to, (including collecting data, etc). Also, removing apps is removing a small part of the system that runs the phone. There is the kernel, system processes, and more that are required to use the phone at all, (or even turn it on), and all of these things are designed to operate a certain way, and contain many traces of various companies. You can't remove those things.
But, if what you want is the appearance of such a thing, you can easily attain that.
levone1 said:
install any OS you want, root, and delete system folders of whatever you don't want. Then, you can end up with a black screen and 4 apps and nothing else. However, there will never be 'no trace of any company' unless you build your own components and design your own os. Even the 4 apps you want are developed and installed by the os maker, and they run how they want tjem to, (including collecting data, etc). Also, removing apps is removing a small part of the system that runs the phone. There is the kernel, system processes, and more that are required to use the phone at all, (or even turn it on), and all of these things are designed to operate a certain way, and contain many traces of various companies. You can't remove those things.
But, if what you want is the appearance of such a thing, you can easily attain that.
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Thanks for the reply,
I guess, what I'm asking, (maybe your answered this) is it possible to install the OS, and not install drivers to run things like WIFI, GPS. I simply have no use for them. I currently turn them off on my X compact. I can get two solid days without charging my phone with just these two things turned off. Second, I use nothing on the phone, but placing calls, occasional TXT, and simple calculations. IMO there's absolutely no reason to have anything else on a phone. so in your reply you say install the OS I want, root it, and delete anything I want. So, since I don't know much about this and I'm still learning, what are the most one can delete from the system and still have a functioning phone? Does Sony publish a list what's on the Mother board, and what drivers run them? If there is it would be a great starting point for me to get an idea of what can absolutely not be deleted.
Thanks again!
matridium said:
Thanks for the reply,
I guess, what I'm asking, (maybe your answered this) is it possible to install the OS, and not install drivers to run things like WIFI, GPS. I simply have no use for them. I currently turn them off on my X compact. I can get two solid days without charging my phone with just these two things turned off. Second, I use nothing on the phone, but placing calls, occasional TXT, and simple calculations. IMO there's absolutely no reason to have anything else on a phone. so in your reply you say install the OS I want, root it, and delete anything I want. So, since I don't know much about this and I'm still learning, what are the most one can delete from the system and still have a functioning phone? Does Sony publish a list what's on the Mother board, and what drivers run them? If there is it would be a great starting point for me to get an idea of what can absolutely not be deleted.
Thanks again!
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May be a list compiled somewhere, but I can't say I know enough about it to give you direction. I think it would definitely be a chore to figure out, since modern roms can have over 100 system apps installed, (between /system/app and /system/priv-app), plus all of the other stuff. As far as Sony publishing info, they have an 'open' program for developers, but it's not entirely open source. You can find all of the sources they do make available on Sony developer site.
Personally, I usually just use the built-in app disabler and disable anything I don't want, and it hides the icon. Some things you can't officially disable, but you can use a third-party app, or delete app folders, but you want to be careful and make a backup. Maybe just move folders to a temp folder somewhere, in recovery file manager, and see if it reboots. Then, if not, you can go back to recovery and put it back...
levone1 said:
May be a list compiled somewhere, but I can't say I know enough about it to give you direction. I think it would definitely be a chore to figure out, since modern roms can have over 100 system apps installed, (between /system/app and /system/priv-app), plus all of the other stuff. As far as Sony publishing info, they have an 'open' program for developers, but it's not entirely open source. You can find all of the sources they do make available on Sony developer site.
Personally, I usually just use the built-in app disabler and disable anything I don't want, and it hides the icon. Some things you can't officially disable, but you can use a third-party app, or delete app folders, but you want to be careful and make a backup. Maybe just move folders to a temp folder somewhere, in recovery file manager, and see if it reboots. Then, if not, you can go back to recovery and put it back...
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I know that Sony has their open environment for developers. I like that they do this, its a good thing. I think there is a forum on their, I might be able to get some answers. I thought that on XDA, someone would actually know what you can and can't delete since it appears to me, making a custom rom would require deleting and removing things or adding things. Someone probably knows... From my perspective, I have found that most things that reference custom ROMs (here on XDA, or YouTube) seem to revolve around, either tricking out a phone, or "I did it! because I can"... "this does not work, I'm going to figure this out" and all of that is very cool. but I have not seen much in regards to hacks that make phones more useful, like a tool instead of the toys they are.
when I find out anything from Sony or on my own about doing what I propose, I will post back here. If anyone has any ideas or resources just let me know.
Thanks!
I think you could probably do better with some classic phone (not smartphone) with requirements like this.
A Sonim XP5 would come closest to fitting your requirements right out of the box. You start hacking on a smartphone too much and you'll end up with a paper weight.
The sonim xp5 looks promising.
I ordered a used from ebay I'm going to give it a try.
I still think phones should be sold with an option to Install anything you want just like computers. In fact the Industry would be even better if they followed what computers did. Allow people to purchase their own Mother boards, enclosures, batteries, and components, and let users build their own phones. just think it would a much better market.
Thanks for the help
got the XP5 but its not what I want either
The XP5 is ok.... If I want to survive a nuclear holocaust! That thing is thick as brick. Its a neat idea, but a little to limited.
OK, so I'm thinking has anyone installed a straight Linux OS on the Compact.
any thoughts?
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The XP5 is ok.... If I want to survive a nuclear holocaust! That thing is thick as brick. Its a neat idea, but a little to limited.
OK, so I'm thinking has anyone installed a straight Linux OS on the Compact.
any thoughts?
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yes. Linux deploy works great. I had Ubuntu and Kali running smoothly. Look up a tutorial, but know that there are a few ways to do it. I used boot-from-sdcard method . Basically partition sdcard, using 8gb or so of ext4 for Linux, then open Linux deploy app, and set preferences for environment, then install os, (takes a while and you need a strong internet connection), then use vnc app to connect to the Linux desktop. Almost everything works well, but sound is tricky. I got it partially working with media server app. Also, the file system is set up slightly different than on a Linux computer, so i had a little trouble with apktool... Another nice thing about it is that you can easily mount your android storage to the Linux desktop in terminal, and the Linux os runs basically as an app, so you can just go back and forth on the fly, and transfer files easily.
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