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My buddy just bought the Incredible today and I'm wondering how he can turn off 3G? I've always been Winmo and am unfamiliar with Android. Thanks
Why would you want to do that? You should have 3G all the damn time, Ive yet to drop 3G within the 20 square miles i drove today.
Battery Life? Compared to my Nexus (so far) the incredible is better because its not trying to force back and forth from 3G and Edge 99% of the day....Savor It!
thats all well and good, but some of us would like to disable 3g on occasion to ensure we get longer life, i've yet to find the option in the system settings, anyone know where it might be hidden.
Hold down the power button. Its the last option on the list "Mobile Network". It works as a toggle.
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Hold down the power button. Its the last option on the list "Mobile Network". It works as a toggle.
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cheers, its kind of a solution (ie: turns off all data connections except wifi instead of just using edge).
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Hold down the power button. Its the last option on the list "Mobile Network". It works as a toggle.
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this will turn off all the internet for it, TC is your friend trying to turn off 3g and just have it use 1x to save battery? or turn off all internet on the phone?
Yeah I figured out how to disable all data connections in Settings, but in my experience, whenever I turn off 3g I've had waaaayyyy better battery life. I am on ATT though...so it IS constantly going from 3G to Edge. I don't know if he'll be able to keep a 3G connection constantly, but I'm still wondering if turning it off will help.
arcteryxbird said:
Yeah I figured out how to disable all data connections in Settings, but in my experience, whenever I turn off 3g I've had waaaayyyy better battery life. I am on ATT though...so it IS constantly going from 3G to Edge. I don't know if he'll be able to keep a 3G connection constantly, but I'm still wondering if turning it off will help.
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i was about to post the info but it got realy long so i made new post on it so its easier to find
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=690682
- short version
- turn off 3G
phone screen > ##778 > "000000" > modem settings >
preferred mode- should be on auto as default, switch it to cdma only
menu > commit settings > (auto reboots)
poof 1x only mode!!!
--- also if this is just for battery life, biggest hits are
screen brightness, timeout
gps!,bluetooth,wifi(wifi can help battery in low 3g coverage but dont leave it one when your away)
email pulling ( gmail app with push is much more energy friendly if you can use just it and not the standardized mail program at all
other programs that do constant updating
Edit: oh and vibration uses more energy then audio and can be turned off, also haptic vibrate on selections and notification the have audio and vibrate
Has anyone proved that Using 3G wastes more power, I would think that the slower transfer speeds require more info transfered from your phone to download the information requested, and longer uptime waiting to view a webpage.
Why spend money on such a nice phone to browse with slow speeds.
Lino. said:
Has anyone proved that Using 3G wastes more power, I would think that the slower transfer speeds require more info transfered from your phone to download the information requested, and longer uptime waiting to view a webpage.
Why spend money on such a nice phone to browse with slow speeds.
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hey i'm not saying i'm planning to use it myself, with the exception of when i go to gamble at the casino cause they have awful data interference
if your streaming videos or large file transfers the cell radio would actively broadcast for much longer time and would use more power going to youtube on it all day, but sometimes you know your gonna be away from a charger or just have to be on the run for while and while the phone has great data features sometimes you need the phone to be a phone and know that its reliable and their when you need it
of course it will have breakpoint where smaller data transfers will be more efficient, the largest benefit will be noticed when the phone is in your pocket maintaining its connection with cell towers
this will allow you to still receive emails in real time but give your phone radio less work to do
runkittyrun said:
i was about to post the info but it got realy long so i made new post on it so its easier to find
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=690682
- short version
- turn off 3G
phone screen > ##778 > "000000" > modem settings >
preferred mode- should be on auto as default, switch it to cdma only
menu > commit settings > (auto reboots)
poof 1x only mode!!!
--- also if this is just for battery life, biggest hits are
screen brightness, timeout
gps!,bluetooth,wifi(wifi can help battery in low 3g coverage but dont leave it one when your away)
email pulling ( gmail app with push is much more energy friendly if you can use just it and not the standardized mail program at all
other programs that do constant updating
Edit: oh and vibration uses more energy then audio and can be turned off, also haptic vibrate on selections and notification the have audio and vibrate
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What does all this even mean?
Does anyone know what methods the HD2, TG01 and s200 switch band modes? I like to use GSM only mode for phone calls and background data transfers like My Phone syncing and e-mail for better battery consumption, but using the engineering menu to switch bands is a bit of a pain.
Also, I find that my IQ never switches to GSM mode (G or E) when using the Automatic band setting. Does the eXpo exhibit the same behaviour? I'm wondering if Telus did something to prevent it from trying to switch to GSM mode automatically since they only have a 3G network.
My LQ have it. I want to switch only GSM band but can not. Select phone setting, have not band switch, only select network auto or manual. I try to install any software for manager GPRS, 3G, Band switch but software does not work or work but not effective.
I am very disappointed with the LG phone. Because selecting the Band is very importance for PDA.
If you are still using a stock ROM, then you will need to install the attached CAB. It adds the option to switch between 2G, 3G and Auto. You can find the setting under \Settings\Personal\Phone.
I have just installed this software, It work perfectly. I do not understand why LG have not been install this software from the original room?
From there, my LG battery save about 20 per cent more.
momhandheld said:
I have just installed this software, It work perfectly. I do not understand why LG have not been install this software from the original room?
From there, my LG battery save about 20 per cent more.
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agreed. Also I am running one of darks roms, (not the current one) and it does not have the band switching option. do you know if I will save some battery even though I have a 2g only carrier (usa tmobile).
It's hard to say if it will make a difference. In 2G mode it won't even try to connect in 3G which it might be doing now.
This control panel applet was extracted from the GW825V ROM. I imagine if LG was to release a newer firmware for the eXpo, it would have it as well.
TrueG
Saving battery
josefcrist said:
agreed. Also I am running one of darks roms, (not the current one) and it does not have the band switching option. do you know if I will save some battery even though I have a 2g only carrier (usa tmobile).
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For saving battery when you switched 2G Band, you should reduce Backlight, normaly using ALC in Backlight setting.
So I came across this thread and figured since I'm on T-mobile as well it would probably save me some battery power since I consistently see a notification on my phone telling me it's trying to connect to 3G. Anyways, after I installed the cab it seamed to have jumbled up a lot of the text in LG settings (I use it because it's easier to navigate than the WM settings). The functions in the settings still work the same as they should, but the text prompting you as to what they do is completely different. For example instead of the text 'settings' it says 'use as' and instead of 'date and time' it says 'password prompt if device ....' and instead of 'security' it says 'please turn on bluetooth' and so on. This only seems to happen in the LG settings and not the WM settings. Any ideas how to get this program to work without the issues I listed?
Unfortunately, LG likes to make life difficult for us.
In order for this to work, I had to include LGString.dll and LGString.dll.0409.mui from the GW825V. The MUI doesn't match up with the version of LG Settings on your phone.
If you want I can put together a version without replacing those two files. I believe it should work except you wouldn't have any text on the Band Settings tab.
trueg said:
Unfortunately, LG likes to make life difficult for us.
In order for this to work, I had to include LGString.dll and LGString.dll.0409.mui from the GW825V. The MUI doesn't match up with the version of LG Settings on your phone.
If you want I can put together a version without replacing those two files. I believe it should work except you wouldn't have any text on the Band Settings tab.
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That would be great actually. I don't need to be able to see the text as long as you tell me what each one is. Plus I'd only be using it the one time to turn on 2G only. Thanks.
Just to clarify, you are using a LG eXpo on the T-Mobile USA network?
The CAB I posted adds the option to manually set the bands between auto, GSM and UMTS(3G). The option is found under \Settings\Personal\Phone. Does this work on your phone? Making a new cab without the extra files will correct the issues with LG Settings but it will not make the feature work if it doesn't already.
trueg said:
Just to clarify, you are using a LG eXpo on the T-Mobile USA network?
The CAB I posted adds the option to manually set the bands between auto, GSM and UMTS(3G). The option is found under \Settings\Personal\Phone. Does this work on your phone? Making a new cab without the extra files will correct the issues with LG Settings but it will not make the feature work if it doesn't already.
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Sorry, I thought I replied to this last week. I must have forgotten hit submit. Anyways, yes I am using the LG expo on T-Mobile USA network. Also while using the CAB you posted the features did work just that the LG settings were having issues like I was talking about. Thanks.
Actually, if you don't intend to switch back and forth, you can just go into the engineering menu and switch it to GSM mode there.
Dial : 3845#*820#
Modem setting\Band Setting\Select GSM
This way you don't need to worry about installing anything.
The control panel option is nice if you like to have the option to switch back and forth without going into the engineering menu.
trueg said:
Actually, if you don't intend to switch back and forth, you can just go into the engineering menu and switch it to GSM mode there.
Dial : 3845#*820#
Modem setting\Band Setting\Select GSM
This way you don't need to worry about installing anything.
The control panel option is nice if you like to have the option to switch back and forth without going into the engineering menu.
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I get "unexpected data value" when i dial 3845#*820# on my expo.
Are you using a custom ROM?
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Are you using a custom ROM?
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yeah i am running darks rom. v4 i think.
I see, well I guess that will not be an option for you unless you want to try a different ROM.
I will try and whip up a new cab for you today.
trueg said:
Actually, if you don't intend to switch back and forth, you can just go into the engineering menu and switch it to GSM mode there.
Dial : 3845#*820#
Modem setting\Band Setting\Select GSM
This way you don't need to worry about installing anything.
The control panel option is nice if you like to have the option to switch back and forth without going into the engineering menu.
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Thanks, it worked.
I have flashed Switfdroid 2.0 m4 and have tried about 4 different sim and 2G/3G networks and none of these work with swiftdroid.
is this a known issue with swiftdroid?
This is not a known issue , as the APN's are not installed by default.
You're from the UK and on Three right? Same as me ,
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.lukemovement.roottoolbox Install this and use the APN function to restore APN's then , Go to Settings > Wireless + Networks > mobile network > APN > (menu key) restore default , back out of this menu , and go back into it , select 3
P.S. If you're using GPRS on Three , is it unbelievably slow? I can barely load Google in under a minute!
Jamielawther said:
This is not a known issue , as the APN's are not installed by default.
You're from the UK and on Three right? Same as me ,
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.lukemovement.roottoolbox Install this and use the APN function to restore APN's then , Go to Settings > Wireless + Networks > mobile network > APN > (menu key) restore default , back out of this menu , and go back into it , select 3
P.S. If you're using GPRS on Three , is it unbelievably slow? I can barely load Google in under a minute!
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i actually discovered what the problem was: a lying ebay seller! they advertised it as unlocked, and i naively assumed they were telling the truth. as soon as i realised i sent out a request for a reimbursement, so lets see how it goes. argh, its always the simplest things we miss....
regarding 3 performance, they are usually bloody fast for me, im in the south west, and always get very fast downloads, usually as fast as i get with wifi, but as you mention you use GPRS, thats not surprising, shouldn't you be using 3G instead?
wrsg said:
i actually discovered what the problem was: a lying ebay seller! they advertised it as unlocked, and i naively assumed they were telling the truth. as soon as i realised i sent out a request for a reimbursement, so lets see how it goes. argh, its always the simplest things we miss....
regarding 3 performance, they are usually bloody fast for me, im in the south west, and always get very fast downloads, usually as fast as i get with wifi, but as you mention you use GPRS, thats not surprising, shouldn't you be using 3G instead?
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Stupid eBay sellers , LOL..
I should be using 3G but if you look at where I live , I don't actually get ANY 3G coverage I've asked Three many times to consider adding another 3G mast in my area as the one around 3/4 of a mile away , doesn't reach my house :L So I rely on Orange GPRS , which is slower than O2's GPRS or any other networks , because of Three's STUPID MTU
Where I live ... LOL http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sou...54.54638,-5.486298&spn=0.067708,0.351562&z=12
Here are my steps to switch bands without adb, sharing since I've gotten 2 confirmations it works on other phones:
Switch Sims
switch to settings -> cellular networks
Pull down notifications-> Airplane mode ON
Network App -> GSM / LTE (close app)
switch to settings
verify 4g (I always click on it, still shows CDMA)
NEtwrok app -> Turn on Radio
Settings -> click on CDMA -> Select 4G
Airplane Mode OFF
I was a little skeptical when I first read your instruction but this actually works for me as well. Note the trick is to get into the settings ->cellular networks before turning on airplane mode (you can't get into this setting with airplane mode on) then switching back and forth between the network app that was used on the 5.0.2 and the cellular networks.
Exactly, that's what I was trying to say when I put the instruction to turn on airplane mode from the notifications pulldown. I've tried this in two phones so far and it works 100%. Not sure why people in the other thread are still arguing about adb commands and bands reverting and all that stuff...
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Exactly, that's what I was trying to say when I put the instruction to turn on airplane mode from the notifications pulldown. I've tried this in two phones so far and it works 100%. Not sure why people in the other thread are still arguing about adb commands and bands reverting and all that stuff...
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Did u get LTE out of doing it this way? I have AT&T
I don't have att but I'm pretty sure this does the same as the other method.
This works great...Thanks OP....(for newcomers You MUST download the "Network" (it has a phone icon) from the play store
Tried this as well and works. Even tried it on a phone I reset to factory and its working. Have to repeat the process if the sims are changed but this is a step up in convenience compared to the other method.
Yep, so far this in the only non-adb method that works for me. Some say disabling VZN apks would make it sticky, but I haven't been able to get that to work.
Does anyone know what the network app does to change the radio settings? Can this be scripted? Why is it able to change the setting when calling the shell commands in a terminal emulator on the phone fails.
For some reason this method did not work for me with 5.1. Please post a Play Store link for the exact Network app you are using if it is not this one: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.mangelow.network
. The ADB method worked for me in post #1: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-e-2015/general/how-to-verizon-moto-e-2015-gsm-network-t3098953
That's the one. I'll try to make a video or something since my steps are not described in the best way. So far from the comments people have been able to somewhat fill the gaps in my explanations
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For some reason this method did not work for me with 5.1. Please post a Play Store link for the exact Network app you are using if it is not this one: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.mangelow.network
. The ADB method worked for me in post #1: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-e-2015/general/how-to-verizon-moto-e-2015-gsm-network-t3098953
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Didn't work for me.
Sorry I don't have the phone with me yet. What does the following step mean?
"switch to settings -> cellular networks"
Is it the same step as the following described in the other thread:
Open up the settings app, go to the mobile networks panel, select "Prefered Network Mode" and change it to "4G"
Thanks!
It means to go to the settings pane "Cellular Networks" no need to do anything there yet, but that option will be disabled once you turn Airplane mode on, so you need to be in that section before that so you can use the task switcher to get there later.
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It means to go to the settings pane "Cellular Networks" no need to do anything there yet, but that option will be disabled once you turn Airplane mode on, so you need to be in that section before that so you can use the task switcher to get there later.
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Why can't you just go there again later using Settings->Cellular Networks if there's not need to do anything there now? Yeah, a video would be useful for me. People posting here should specify there OS version: e.g. 5.1 . I know it's in the title, but you don't know what's on people phones.
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Why can't you just go there again later using Settings->Cellular Networks if there's not need to do anything there now? Yeah, a video would be useful for me. People posting here should specify there OS version: e.g. 5.1 . I know it's in the title, but you don't know what's on people phones.
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Once you activate Airplane Mode, the Cellular Networks option will be disabled.. so you need to keep it active so you can switch to it later. Couple of people in the thread and offline have confirmed this working in 5.1, but yeah it would help if all people with working steps posted their version. Is there a screen capture app that is free?
chava007 said:
Once you activate Airplane Mode, the Cellular Networks option will be disabled.. so you need to keep it active so you can switch to it later. Couple of people in the thread and offline have confirmed this working in 5.1, but yeah it would help if all people with working steps posted their version. Is there a screen capture app that is free?
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Volume up + power (at the same time) for screenshot. Do you mean video screen capture? --> https://play.google.com/store/search?q=video capture screen
I've never tried any.
I forgot to pull out the Verizon sim card that came with the phone before performing the unlock steps. Did I ruin the unlock process? If so, can I still unlock the phone somehow?
Also I tried to search 'network' in Google Play, it kept crashing. Why is this?
Thanks!
mj56gt said:
I forgot to pull out the Verizon sim card that came with the phone before performing the unlock steps. Did I ruin the unlock process? If so, can I still unlock the phone somehow?
Also I tried to search 'network' in Google Play, it kept crashing. Why is this?
Thanks!
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You need a GSM SIM card in during the OPs process. The method will still work if you have the GSM SIM card.
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I'll try to make a video or something since my steps are not described in the best way.
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+1 on the video- Thanks
After being unlocked with the OP's method with a GSM sim card, would the phone still work with another GSM sim card? Thanks
Title says it all. Anyone else able to enable Volte? I've been using it for a while now. No root needed.
Edit: Hidden menu tool attached in post #3
How?
First and most crucial thing is accessing the hidden menu aka service mode aka dialer code heaven.
It's done by using the hidden menu tool that's linked in this page:
https://www.reddit.com/r/verizon/comments/c9tovo
It's extremely easy and stupid fast.
Once you've done that you must enable advanced calling in settings. The beauty of it is that it can be done without having to deal with Verizon at all. It's done by accessing IMS settings.
Still with me? If you give a **** beep twice.
Just a reminder/standard Android warning; use the hidden menus with caution. You know this part if you've ever messed with flashing ROMs and all that. There's potential for you to mess up your phone so, you know..
FACTORY MODE
Enter in calculator
(+ 30012012732+
Diagnostic mode(enter either in calculator or dial pad)
##366633#
VERIZON IOTHIDDENMENU
##433346#
Band select/service mode
*#27663368378#
IMS setting menu
*#467#
IMS Settings
- Hit the more options/three dots on upper right of screen
- Select 'Reset to default'
This should activate 'Advanced Calling' in the settings menu without dealing with Verizon. Keep in mind you might have to restart your phone after you reset the IMS settings to default.
- Go back to IMS settings (*#467#) after Advanced Calling is available(you should see that HD voice and video are enabled)
-Under IMS Setting, tap the first option “IMS Service switch”.
-On the next screen, make sure all the toggles are on. If any toggle is off, turn it on.
-Go back and tap “Self Provisioning”. First two options i.e. Provisioning and EAB should show “Enable”. If they show something else, tap “Toggle Provisioning” to enable them.
-Again go back and tap “IMS information”. Verify that all the settings are enabled on the IMS information screen.
-Restart your device.
>Manually add the IMS APN
1) Create an IMS APN
Settings → Mobile Networks →Access Point Names → Add
Select Settings and Mobile Network
Select Access Point Names, Select Add
2) Input IMS setting
Name: ims
APN: ims
APN type: ims
I have never posted here before but I nearly had to buy a new phone because the information I am about to share was not available anywhere on the entire internet even though I had to use the starting point of the above Gentleman's information. Ok so if your Verizon Galaxy Note 4 (although it may work on other carriers as well) was not previously activated in the actual android OP (within the "advanced calling" Setting) and it happens to be on an MVNO Sim card, then the above strategy will not be enough to activate advanced calling (or WIFI calling) because unfortunately these Note 4's are so old that the OS thinks that it has to connect with a 3G tower to make a handshake with your Verizon account before it can tell your OS to proceed with activating the advanced calling. So since you cannot walk into a verizon store and have an tech guru reprogram it for you without the 3G Tower handshake, what you have to do to get it to work is you have (same with Visual Voicemail by the way) to actually enter into the IOT Hidden menu (via above method and then ##433346#) and then click Data then edit and now you are in the data programming menu and then you just need to hit HDR/1X Selection and then click LTE Only Mode and save. Finally in the IMS Setting (above) you must go into the DM configuration and click the VOLTE_Enabled setting and change the 0 to a 1. Good luck and I will take questions if you need help, and thanks for finding the info above OP!
mrjoshjohnsmith said:
I have never posted here before but I nearly had to buy a new phone because the information I am about to share was not available anywhere on the entire internet even though I had to use the starting point of the above Gentleman's information. Ok so if your Verizon Galaxy Note 4 (although it may work on other carriers as well) was not previously activated in the actual android OP (within the "advanced calling" Setting) and it happens to be on an MVNO Sim card, then the above strategy will not be enough to activate advanced calling (or WIFI calling) because unfortunately these Note 4's are so old that the OS thinks that it has to connect with a 3G tower to make a handshake with your Verizon account before it can tell your OS to proceed with activating the advanced calling. So since you cannot walk into a verizon store and have an tech guru reprogram it for you without the 3G Tower handshake, what you have to do to get it to work is you have (same with Visual Voicemail by the way) to actually enter into the IOT Hidden menu (via above method and then ##433346#) and then click Data then edit and now you are in the data programming menu and then you just need to hit HDR/1X Selection and then click LTE Only Mode and save. Finally in the IMS Setting (above) you must go into the DM configuration and click the VOLTE_Enabled setting and change the 0 to a 1. Good luck and I will take questions if you need help, and thanks for finding the info above OP!
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DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is it!!! You are a steely-eyed missile man! I have been trying to reconnect my Note 4 to Verizon since they shut off 3G. I thought maybe my issue was related to not having HD setup prior to losing the 3G connection. As you have pointed out, that is the case. No matter what I did, I could not enable HD through the advanced calling menu. Toggling the bit was the key to the whole thing! I cannot thank you enough. I really like my Note 4. Yes, it's old, but it has a lot of great features that they just don't include on new phones. I understand that someday she will be forced to retire, but not today Verizon.... not today.
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Yes, it's old, but it has a lot of great features that they just don't include on new phones.
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True that. In the same boat. The ONLY things missing from the Note 4 are camera2 api and faster/more consistent GPS lock. Other than that, perfect phone for me. I got VoLTE working on VZW, but their 4G coverage blows in my area, missed/dropped 75% of calls. I have nearly everything working w/ a T-Mobile SIM, except voice calls fall back to 2G/CDMA. I'd LOVE to figure out how to get VoLTE on T-Mobile's towers, but it's still usable, since T-Mobile has great 4G LTE Band 4 coverage here, and decent 2G/GSM. So far, they have not announced end of life for 2G/GSM. I have been a VZW customer since they were Bell Atlantic, like 25 years. Had the grandfathered true unlimited data plan. Their service degradation over the last few years is inexcusable. Driving around last week w/ two identical note 4's, one w/ a T-Mobile SIM, one w/ VZW was an eye opener. Should have done this 10 years ago.
Benovite said:
Just a reminder/standard Android warning; use the hidden menus with caution. You know this part if you've ever messed with flashing ROMs and all that. There's potential for you to mess up your phone so, you know..
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Benovite, thanks for this procedure. Do you know, by any chance,
a) Where these settings are actually stored?
b) Is there a way to back up/restore the settings before messing with them?
Google search has been zero help on this. I don't know if a nandroid(twrp) backup of System/Data would save/restore all the hidden dialer menu settings. Would love to know for sure. Thanks,
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DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is it!!! You are a steely-eyed missile man! I have been trying to reconnect my Note 4 to Verizon since they shut off 3G. I thought maybe my issue was related to not having HD setup prior to losing the 3G connection. As you have pointed out, that is the case. No matter what I did, I could not enable HD through the advanced calling menu. Toggling the bit was the key to the whole thing! I cannot thank you enough. I really like my Note 4. Yes, it's old, but it has a lot of great features that they just don't include on new phones. I understand that someday she will be forced to retire, but not today Verizon.... not today.
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Your very welcome! I was not willing to give up on any of my note 4's either as they have so many features that absolutely no modern phone has such as:
IR blaster, removable battery, option of Qi charging Cover or regular cover, Heart rate, Blood pressure, O2 Level, Can connect to all 4 main GPS systems {GPS/US, GLONASS/Russia, Galileo/EU, BeiDou/China}, it works on almost all GSM & CDMA Networks including the unusual cdma networks in South America which I use every year or two when we visit my wifes family in Colombia and much more. They dont make phones that are swiss army like how this old note is, in fact I have tried other notes (including the last note that samsung made) and I absolutely hated it and took it back!
So because I just dont ever want to give up my note (it does absolutely everything I need in a phone and more) I decided to just keep messing with each value of each setting until I finally found the one that works! It was a little easier for me though because I had my wifes daily note 4 and mine daily note 4 and 2 spares to look at different settings so that when I messed up a setting I could return it to what my wifes note 4 had. The only reason I figured out the value changing thing is because one of my old android 5.1.1. note fours had the advanced calling activated when I retired it and as soon as I stuck my current sim card in it I was able to immediately make VoLte calls, so I knew there had to be a setting somewhere that would toggle it on. If anyone wants to activate Video calling on their note 4's (for free) it is actually done the same way. Simply go in to the IMS settings *#467# (which you can only do once you have unlocked the global hidden menu....see above) and make sure it is toggled on in the service switch setting first under the heading VoLte-Video Then head back into the DM Configuration and change toggle the show all values tab at the top to on and then scroll down until you see "LVC_Enabled" And change the 0 to a 1 and then to unhide the video tab in your dialer you need to keep scrolling down and find the one that says "Options _Enabled" and again change the 0 to a 1 and then scroll down and change the "VCE_Config" from 0 to 1 (it may already be a 1 though, its weird, but make sure it is a 1). Now finally Switch your phone to airplane mode and then back off and go back to the main IMS Screen and scroll down and select ims information and make sure that Video over IP is enabled. If it is not you may need to restart your phone. So what is crazy is that the video calling on this phone never worked on any MVNO's and never even worked when using verizon pre-paid, it only ever worked on this phone when I had verizon Post Paid, so I find it incredible that it can be activated like this. What it makes me wonder is if the Text message Chat feature can get activated the same way (although I havent figure that one out yet)! Anyhow my fellow note 4 lovers, I hope you do enjoy this tid bit of info!
ForestCat said:
Benovite, thanks for this procedure. Do you know, by any chance,
a) Where these settings are actually stored?
b) Is there a way to back up/restore the settings before messing with them?
Google search has been zero help on this. I don't know if a nandroid(twrp) backup of System/Data would save/restore all the hidden dialer menu settings. Would love to know for sure. Thanks,
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So, I know for sure that it has to be saved someone within the backup file that you can create through android because I backed up the note 4 phone that had advanced calling activated and then did a factory reset and then used odin to install the latest Stock fw file (the one from 2020 that had the better Modem FW) and as soon as I started it up with the sim card the advanced calling was de-activated and could not be re-activated through the normal channel, but then once I restored the android (or google) backup it was automatically re-enabled after the restore was complete. I suspect it is saved someone in the actually IMS settings app (it is actually a samsung app) which I discovered using activity launcher and apk analyzer. I wonder if you could use activity laucher to figure out if your tmobile version note 4 has this system app in it? If it does have this app, I actually figured out that you can unlock this hidden menu without the verizon program on your PC (you dont even need a PC). All you actually have to do is:
Dial ##366633# on the phone then - Select the enable DM Mode on the phone, and then
After This enter main the main IOTHIDDEN MENU using ##433346# then click
- Data (takes you to Data Programming Screen)
- Edit (Data Programming)
- More (takes you to "Others" Screen)
- Click on Global Hidden Menu Selection & Change to Enabled, and boom done your now have an unlocked IMS Service menu and if you can make it here with your t-mobile phone, then you should be able to copy all the values from someone else's tmobile VoLte working Android phone regardless of what T-Mobile tells you!
Just in case anyone is wondering, I actually tried copying the Carrier Services APK and the IMS Settings APK from my android 6.0.1 phone (my daily driver) to one of my other note 4s that I recently rooted (thank you JKRuse for your ridiculously easy rooting instructions for MM) and installed Lineage 18.1 on (thank you very much Ripee For all your hard work there) to see if I could somehow get these system apps to get VoLte working on lineage (I know it was a ridiculous long shot) and NO JOY
This was a sad thing indeed because that is the only thing about my old notes here is that I cannot use the Samsung Smart things app to see what is in my family hub refrigerator (when I am out at the Grocery store) and I cannot use the sams club Scan and Go app because both of those apps require android 8.0 and above! And if it wasn't for not being able to get SMS over IP and Voice over IP working on lineage, it would be a perfect operating system for the note 4's! The only downside I could find was that I could not get a stable 4k video (which I never use anyway because it takes way too much sd card space) and the Bluetooth is not stable. But other than that it runs sooo sooo good on the note 4! It is 10 times faster than the Stock fw and then we could use modern apps! Man I wish we could all somehow work together to get VoLte on lineage and fix the Bluetooth and then Bang we have our notes for another 6 or 7 years at least (especially now that I discovered Aliexpress has sellers that are still making Note 4 battery's fresh which means they have not degraded in capacity like all the ones on amazon and ebay). Anyhow good luck!
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So, I know for sure that it has to be saved someone within the backup file
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Thanks, good info. RE: Lineage, etc, there are a lot of cool ROMS out there, but in my experience, once you move away from touchwiz, there's always gonna be some functionality that you have to give up. I've been on MODestROM v11 since I got the phone, and it's been awesome. EVERYTHING works. But, like you say, it's 6.01, and we're slowly being left behind. I'm always looking for a new phone, but every time I think I'm close there's something that horrifies me about it. No charging LED???? Really???? These companies, Apple, Google, MS, Samsung, et al, have been adopting the worst of each other's anti-consumerism 'features' for decades. Apple started it. Now we have forced updates you can't roll back, bootloaders you can't unlock (thanks, Samsung) ,windows computers with no network activity indicators, no hdd activity indicators, etc. Which is fine, I guess, if you're cool with the dumbing-down of everything. I'm not. Heaven forbid we could actually replace the ONE THING in our phone that WILL fail (the battery), and get to continue working the way we want with the hw we've learned. Oh well.
/rantOff
ForestCat said:
Thanks, good info. RE: Lineage, etc, there are a lot of cool ROMS out there, but in my experience, once you move away from touchwiz, there's always gonna be some functionality that you have to give up. I've been on MODestROM v11 since I got the phone, and it's been awesome. EVERYTHING works. But, like you say, it's 6.01, and we're slowly being left behind. I'm always looking for a new phone, but every time I think I'm close there's something that horrifies me about it. No charging LED???? Really???? These companies, Apple, Google, MS, Samsung, et al, have been adopting the worst of each other's anti-consumerism 'features' for decades. Apple started it. Now we have forced updates you can't roll back, bootloaders you can't unlock (thanks, Samsung) ,windows computers with no network activity indicators, no hdd activity indicators, etc. Which is fine, I guess, if you're cool with the dumbing-down of everything. I'm not. Heaven forbid we could actually replace the ONE THING in our phone that WILL fail (the battery), and get to continue working the way we want with the hw we've learned. Oh well.
/rantOff
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Hahaha I laugh because absolutely everything you said there are the things I tell my wife when she asked why we don't 'upgrade' our Asus work Laptops! And then of coarse you are absolutely correct about the phones! It sad because even though everything is continually being dumbed down, it is not in a good / more useful way it is always in a way that causes us the consumers to have to go more often to the mega corps tit to drink! Seriously though Loved the rant, and I appreciate the tip on the Modest Rom, I have not used it but now I will try it out.
mrjoshjohnsmith said:
So, I know for sure that it has to be saved someone within the backup file that you can create through android because I backed up the note 4 phone that had advanced calling activated and then did a factory reset and then used odin to install the latest Stock fw file (the one from 2020 that had the better Modem FW) and as soon as I started it up with the sim card the advanced calling was de-activated and could not be re-activated through the normal channel, but then once I restored the android (or google) backup it was automatically re-enabled after the restore was complete. I suspect it is saved someone in the actually IMS settings app (it is actually a samsung app) which I discovered using activity launcher and apk analyzer. I wonder if you could use activity laucher to figure out if your tmobile version note 4 has this system app in it? If it does have this app, I actually figured out that you can unlock this hidden menu without the verizon program on your PC (you dont even need a PC). All you actually have to do is:
Dial ##366633# on the phone then - Select the enable DM Mode on the phone, and then
After This enter main the main IOTHIDDEN MENU using ##433346# then click
- Data (takes you to Data Programming Screen)
- Edit (Data Programming)
- More (takes you to "Others" Screen)
- Click on Global Hidden Menu Selection & Change to Enabled, and boom done your now have an unlocked IMS Service menu and if you can make it here with your t-mobile phone, then you should be able to copy all the values from someone else's tmobile VoLte working Android phone regardless of what T-Mobile tells you!
Just in case anyone is wondering, I actually tried copying the Carrier Services APK and the IMS Settings APK from my android 6.0.1 phone (my daily driver) to one of my other note 4s that I recently rooted (thank you JKRuse for your ridiculously easy rooting instructions for MM) and installed Lineage 18.1 on (thank you very much Ripee For all your hard work there) to see if I could somehow get these system apps to get VoLte working on lineage (I know it was a ridiculous long shot) and NO JOY
This was a sad thing indeed because that is the only thing about my old notes here is that I cannot use the Samsung Smart things app to see what is in my family hub refrigerator (when I am out at the Grocery store) and I cannot use the sams club Scan and Go app because both of those apps require android 8.0 and above! And if it wasn't for not being able to get SMS over IP and Voice over IP working on lineage, it would be a perfect operating system for the note 4's! The only downside I could find was that I could not get a stable 4k video (which I never use anyway because it takes way too much sd card space) and the Bluetooth is not stable. But other than that it runs sooo sooo good on the note 4! It is 10 times faster than the Stock fw and then we could use modern apps! Man I wish we could all somehow work together to get VoLte on lineage and fix the Bluetooth and then Bang we have our notes for another 6 or 7 years at least (especially now that I discovered Aliexpress has sellers that are still making Note 4 battery's fresh which means they have not degraded in capacity like all the ones on amazon and ebay). Anyhow good luck!
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Link? I noticed Ravpower took down their page selling Note 4 batteries.
ForestCat said:
Thanks, good info. RE: Lineage, etc, there are a lot of cool ROMS out there, but in my experience, once you move away from touchwiz, there's always gonna be some functionality that you have to give up. I've been on MODestROM v11 since I got the phone, and it's been awesome. EVERYTHING works. But, like you say, it's 6.01, and we're slowly being left behind. I'm always looking for a new phone, but every time I think I'm close there's something that horrifies me about it. No charging LED???? Really???? These companies, Apple, Google, MS, Samsung, et al, have been adopting the worst of each other's anti-consumerism 'features' for decades. Apple started it. Now we have forced updates you can't roll back, bootloaders you can't unlock (thanks, Samsung) ,windows computers with no network activity indicators, no hdd activity indicators, etc. Which is fine, I guess, if you're cool with the dumbing-down of everything. I'm not. Heaven forbid we could actually replace the ONE THING in our phone that WILL fail (the battery), and get to continue working the way we want with the hw we've learned. Oh well.
/rantOff
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I'm still running Kitkat and I hate how the US carriers mess with the Note 4's settings
dave678 said:
Link? I noticed Ravpower took down their page selling Note 4 batteries.
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Dave, the best battery's I have found so far (I have tried about 15-20 different aliexpress brands) are these:
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804139675068.html?
Make sure you choose the NFC variety if you want to be able to use your Payment apps and other things (like nearby share). Now keep in mind that these battery's are nowhere near the capacity that they claim. I purchased a high end lithium battery stressor / capacity tester which can stress a battery up to 180watts and I tested each battery from all the different brands I purchased from aliexpress 5 times each (just to make sure I was past the break in stage of each battery) at a Constant Current of .7amps (which I found was the most accurate average that a note 4 will pull if watching videos and or gaming half the time and then just web browsing the other half) and these battery's consistently came out at that amperage with 3200ma - 3400ma capacity. The cutoff voltage was set to 2.8v which is as low as you would want to go during a stress test without damaging the battery. Anyway I say all that to say that they did seem to be the best battery's (better than original actually) even though they lie profusely on their stated capacity. I actually have another brand ordered though that seems to have good feedback so I will let you know how they go (these ones: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832682489559.html?). One final note, I would tell you all is that you will make your phone last longer if you do not have to ever take it apart to replace any components (since that almost always damages the s-pen foil film behind the OLED & motherboard) and the way you do that is you keep multiple spare battery's around and only charge the battery's in a separate charger like this: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832625444390.html?
Which only cost $4.20 a piece so when one finally burns up (they seem to last about a year each when plugged in 24 hours a day) you just plug in a new one and your phones charging port remains untouched! Now, I will admit though that I do not stick to this rule 100% of the time since sometimes I am using my phone as a GPS (which drains the battery hella quick) so I go ahead and plug the phone in to my car charger when I am doing so. Anyhow, I hope that helps