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With all the great new ROMs out there, I am trying to figure out the best way to go about backing up and restoring my apps and all of my settings.
I do Nandroid backups, and those work find as a "snapshot" of my Hero. But is there any easy way to back up and restore all of my apps or settings in one fell swoop, without affecting the installed ROM?
I'm trying to find the best way to move from one DamageControl ROM to another, for instance. My current procedure would be to back up the phone, wipe it, then flash the new ROM. From there, I would have to use AppMonster or something to restore my apps. The downside is that that would have to be done manually, and plus I would still be without all of my custom settings.
So is there any easier way to go about this? I have tried flashing a newer DC ROM on top of an older one without wiping, and this seems to work okay sometimes, except for I tend to have a lot of quirks with the new installation then -- force closes and things of that nature.
Anyway, I'm sure you guys have developed some pretty smart ways to go about switching from one ROM to another without having to manually set things up each time, and I'm just trying to find out what's most efficient.
Thanks for your time!
I use titanium backup, I believe it lets you backup personal data as well not a 100% but pretty sure.
I just wipe each time, and install whatever ROM is the flavor of the moment.
I have a couple of Nandroid backups on my computer though.
Thanks for the info. I might give Titanium Backup a try...
imekul said:
With all the great new ROMs out there, I am trying to figure out the best way to go about backing up and restoring my apps and all of my settings.
I do Nandroid backups, and those work find as a "snapshot" of my Hero. But is there any easy way to back up and restore all of my apps or settings in one fell swoop, without affecting the installed ROM?
I'm trying to find the best way to move from one DamageControl ROM to another, for instance. My current procedure would be to back up the phone, wipe it, then flash the new ROM. From there, I would have to use AppMonster or something to restore my apps. The downside is that that would have to be done manually, and plus I would still be without all of my custom settings.
So is there any easier way to go about this? I have tried flashing a newer DC ROM on top of an older one without wiping, and this seems to work okay sometimes, except for I tend to have a lot of quirks with the new installation then -- force closes and things of that nature.
Anyway, I'm sure you guys have developed some pretty smart ways to go about switching from one ROM to another without having to manually set things up each time, and I'm just trying to find out what's most efficient.
Thanks for your time!
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Mybackup works great for backing up contacts and some settings as well as your apps. You get 30 days free trial I think.
if your using Damage's latest, you may want to avoid Titanium as it seems to be breaking the audio....
Check out a program called Android Commander it backs up apps to your computer. I really like the ease of use, plus it makes editing the phone files easy. Check it out!
partition your SD card and get a rom with Apps2SD(A2SD). Than when you flash a new rom the app .apks will still be on your sd card data (unless you cleared ext3 partition in which you should mount your phone via usb and make a copy of the ext3 folder on your sdcard that you have from partitioning ur sd card via RA and have apps2sd running, now to the app that makes all this come together is this simple app i found on the market called "installer" download this one app from market and launch it, what this app does is scan's your sd card for every single .apk file and puts them in a nice neat list(with icons) than you can simple click on it and choose to install. this is a must have!
I'm using TitaniumBackup on fresh's newest and it works amazing for me.
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I'm using TitaniumBackup on fresh's newest and it works amazing for me.
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Have you tried it going from a 1.5 rom (Fresh 1.1 in this case) to a 2.1 ROM (Fresh 2.0d)?
I tried it on my wife's phone last night. After the restore sense was stuck in an FC loop and I had to wipe and start over. I ended up restoring her 1.5 nandroid so she would stop giving me evil looks and contemplating my death.
smw6180 said:
Have you tried it going from a 1.5 rom (Fresh 1.1 in this case) to a 2.1 ROM (Fresh 2.0d)?
I tried it on my wife's phone last night. After the restore sense was stuck in an FC loop and I had to wipe and start over. I ended up restoring her 1.5 nandroid so she would stop giving me evil looks and contemplating my death.
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Nah I've been on 2.1 since the eris leak lol. But were you restoring everything? try doing apps first and see if that works, then one by one doing the data it might be something you can pin point and avoid.
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Nah I've been on 2.1 since the eris leak lol. But were you restoring everything? try doing apps first and see if that works, then one by one doing the data it might be something you can pin point and avoid.
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When I did my phone I had no issues...I was like you and was on 2.x from the Eris leak. My wife though doesn't like her phone to be 'tinkered with' (I wonder if that has anything to do with me cursing and screaming when I first bricked my phone with the RUU? But I digress), so she's coming from 1.5 (Fresh 1.1). In any event I tried what you suggest already...the apps install fine. It's when I restore the app settings (only the app settings, not system) that everything goes boom. She's got 120 apps. I'm not going through them one by one, so I'll probably just tell her she's got to live with a nuke and pave if she wants to upgrade. Since she'll likely have the same problem if/when the official Sprint release comes out, I doubt I'll have much trouble convincing her to let go of some of her crap.
My major issue is restoring her text messages at this point. I know that the 1.5 ROMs uses a different database format than the 2.x series. So I'm going to take a guess that I won't be able to save those.
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When I did my phone I had no issues...I was like you and was on 2.x from the Eris leak. My wife though doesn't like her phone to be 'tinkered with' (I wonder if that has anything to do with me cursing and screaming when I first bricked my phone with the RUU? But I digress), so she's coming from 1.5 (Fresh 1.1). In any event I tried what you suggest already...the apps install fine. It's when I restore the app settings (only the app settings, not system) that everything goes boom. She's got 120 apps. I'm not going through them one by one, so I'll probably just tell her she's got to live with a nuke and pave if she wants to upgrade. Since she'll likely have the same problem if/when the official Sprint release comes out, I doubt I'll have much trouble convincing her to let go of some of her crap.
My major issue is restoring her text messages at this point. I know that the 1.5 ROMs uses a different database format than the 2.x series. So I'm going to take a guess that I won't be able to save those.
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120 apps! Lol, but I might be able to help with the text messages thing, I just found on the market an app called SMS Backup. It actually backs up all your sms to your gmail account in thread form. Its pretty sweet and runs in the background each time you get a message it just uploads it to your gmail account silently. I had the same issue I was just getting sick of everytime I flashed I would loose all my messages at least now I have them backed up somewhere and better yet its in a place where I dont have to worry about running outta space. So overall it might be a better option I read alot of people saying they arent paying attention and a threaded sms reaches 2k+ then their phones start to lag and it wont delete them. Just an option, but its a pretty kick ass app you should check it out.
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120 apps! Lol, but I might be able to help with the text messages thing, I just found on the market an app called SMS Backup. It actually backs up all your sms to your gmail account in thread form. Its pretty sweet and runs in the background each time you get a message it just uploads it to your gmail account silently. I had the same issue I was just getting sick of everytime I flashed I would loose all my messages at least now I have them backed up somewhere and better yet its in a place where I dont have to worry about running outta space. So overall it might be a better option I read alot of people saying they arent paying attention and a threaded sms reaches 2k+ then their phones start to lag and it wont delete them. Just an option, but its a pretty kick ass app you should check it out.
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I'll take a look at it. But if I understand what it does, it will only get new stuff that comes in, and won't be able to be restored to the messaging database, right? If that's the case she won't go for it. She's 'purist' about her phone (she's great, and I love her to death, but a tech geek she isn't. She just wants it to work, work like it's stock, and not give her problems...a viewpoint I can understand, honestly ).
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I'll take a look at it. But if I understand what it does, it will only get new stuff that comes in, and won't be able to be restored to the messaging database, right? If that's the case she won't go for it. She's 'purist' about her phone (she's great, and I love her to death, but a tech geek she isn't. She just wants it to work, work like it's stock, and not give her problems...a viewpoint I can understand, honestly ).
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Lol, I understand. I haven't tried restoring to be honest but I think theres another one similar out there called sms backup and restore or something like that that dumps all the sms into an xml file and allows you to restore it again. Not sure I haven't used it, just read about it in passing and looked it up on the market. But thats always another option.
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Lol, I understand. I haven't tried restoring to be honest but I think theres another one similar out there called sms backup and restore or something like that that dumps all the sms into an xml file and allows you to restore it again. Not sure I haven't used it, just read about it in passing and looked it up on the market. But thats always another option.
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Sweet. I'll take a look. Thanks for the tips
id there anyway to keep ur home screens organized between wiping and flashing roms? im sooo sick of redoing it.. im going to cry if i have to do it again.. thats 15 whole minutes of my valuable life.
I know ADW lets you do two backups within its settings, one for home screens and the other for your general settings (grid layout, dock, swype actions).
So you restore your user apps with titanium, install ADW, and restore those settings. Certain widgets effectively get broken links, but the layout is still there and you re-add the one to three that have an issue. The sweeping majority work and it is all pretty quick to set up.
Other launchers probably have the same thing. Also, Titanium backup will backup your launcher data itself, but I don't endorse doing that since doing so has confused market in the past.
Another option is to try your luck with not wiping data between updates, and hope features like Market Doctor will save you. I like my way though.
Swyped w/ XDA App. A clean tie attracts the soup of the day.
Soba hit it on the head....ADW will restore it, but if you have fancy widgets; you will have to restore them regardless. If it's a bunch of icons then you will be fine.
Launcherpro will backup and restore as well
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Been getting them, more often (or at least it feels like it).
Generic message, so I can't tell which app or system generating them.
How would you troubleshoot this, without phone reset?
Brand new and Bone stock 4.3, haven't had a chance to root yet.
Thanks.
gidal said:
Been getting them, more often (or at least it feels like it).
Generic message, so I can't tell which app or system generating them.
How would you troubleshoot this, without phone reset?
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One way to solve it isn't nice, but it works:
1. Root, make nandroid backup (subsequent steps are risky), and install Titanium Backup
2. Filter for user apps
3. Disable everything
4. Reboot and confirm that problem is gone.
5. Enable the first 1/2 of the apps. (In the batch operations menu, long press an app in the middle and choose "Select all below".)
If the problem has returned:
- Of the enabled apps, one is bad. Disable half of those enabled apps.
- Go to step 5.
If the problem is still gone:
- One of the still disabled apps is causing the problem. Enable half of the most recently disabled apps.
- Go to step 5.
This method is a little time consuming, but not as bad as it seems. For 125 user apps, it will take 7 iterations to find the culprit. For fewer user apps, it will take less time. If you disable ALL user apps and the problem persists, the issue is with system data and you need to wipe some system app's data or factory reset.
fenstre said:
One way to solve it isn't nice, but it works:
1. Root, make nandroid backup (subsequent steps are risky), and install Titanium Backup
2. Filter for user apps
3. Disable everything
4. Reboot and confirm that problem is gone.
5. Enable the first 1/2 of the apps. (In the batch operations menu, long press an app in the middle and choose "Select all below".)
If the problem has returned:
- Of the enabled apps, one is bad. Disable half of those enabled apps.
- Go to step 5.
If the problem is still gone:
- One of the still disabled apps is causing the problem. Enable half of the most recently disabled apps.
- Go to step 5.
This method is a little time consuming, but not as bad as it seems. For 125 user apps, it will take 7 iterations to find the culprit. For fewer user apps, it will take less time. If you disable ALL user apps and the problem persists, the issue is with system data and you need to wipe some system app's data or factory reset.
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Thanks - very good troubleshooting technique.
I'll do that this weekend. I'm afraid it's due to some system apps that I disabled. Thing is, I reenabled all and still getting the toasts. I'll probably do a factory reset and install my apps one at a time.
What's weird is, this is what I usually do when I get new Android device. Only this N4 responds differently to my initial set up process.
Found the culprit, it was flip silent. I didn't suspect it at first since I've been using it with my other Android devices, including on CM10.2 (4.3), and never ran into toasts issue like with N4.
Seeing as though there's no more BajaROM thread, I'll post this is in the general Q&A section. Of course, while I am running BajaROM, I can't be sure that the ROM had anything to do with it.
Something weird definitely happened to my phone last night... at exactly 2:28am, it would seem.
When I woke up this morning, my live background changed to a different static background, my normal keyboard (thumb keyboard) was replaced by the samsung one, my clock widget was frozen at 2:28, the battery level read 87% (after charging all night), and hasn't changed all morning, even after an hour commute of phone calls and media play... tasker had inexplicably turned off... and I'm still finding odd things.
I restarted my phone, and my clock is more current now, but my clock widget and the statusbar clock are a minute apart for a portion of every minute (like they're offset by <60sec) Tasker still didn't turn on like it should have, until I started the app to spark it... as if it was the first time I installed it. (It does the same thing when I restore the app through Titanium Backup on a new ROM install)
I checked to make sure I still have root by starting Titanium Backup... I have root, but titanium backup says it's the free version now... when I normally have the Donate (Pro) version. I had to reinstall it from the Google Play store
I have a few nightly backup/refresh items scheduled in Titanium Backup at 2am and 2:30am... so I wonder if something went wrong.
If anyone has experienced similar issues, leave a comment.
Thanks!
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Seeing as though there's no more BajaROM thread, I'll post this is in the general Q&A section. Of course, while I am running BajaROM, I can't be sure that the ROM had anything to do with it.
Something weird definitely happened to my phone last night... at exactly 2:28am, it would seem.
When I woke up this morning, my live background changed to a different static background, my normal keyboard (thumb keyboard) was replaced by the samsung one, my clock widget was frozen at 2:28, the battery level read 87% (after charging all night), and hasn't changed all morning, even after an hour commute of phone calls and media play... tasker had inexplicably turned off... and I'm still finding odd things.
I restarted my phone, and my clock is more current now, but my clock widget and the statusbar clock are a minute apart for a portion of every minute (like they're offset by <60sec) Tasker still didn't turn on like it should have, until I started the app to spark it... as if it was the first time I installed it. (It does the same thing when I restore the app through Titanium Backup on a new ROM install)
I checked to make sure I still have root by starting Titanium Backup... I have root, but titanium backup says it's the free version now... when I normally have the Donate (Pro) version. I had to reinstall it from the Google Play store
I have a few nightly backup/refresh items scheduled in Titanium Backup at 2am and 2:30am... so I wonder if something went wrong.
If anyone has experienced similar issues, leave a comment.
Thanks!
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This won't help you understand what's going on but for what it's worth I'm running Baja 16.1 and it's just fine. I don't use any exposed or wanam modules. Think that might be the culprit? That is if you run any..
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This won't help you understand what's going on but for what it's worth I'm running Baja 16.1 and it's just fine. I don't use any exposed or wanam modules. Think that might be the culprit? That is if you run any..
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I do run some (several) xposed mods and wanam/gravity box mods, and have been for quite some time on several devices. A string of bizarre events like that hasn't happened though.
It is strange, though, that I did install XToast just last night. This is an xposed mod that gives you more control over the toast messages received under different circumstances. Could be the culprit... not sure. I think I'll disable it and go back to BurntToast, a mod that does similar stuff.
Maybe switching from one to the other borked something?
Thanks for the input.
I also experienced some weird behaviour. I do suspect Titanium tp cause the problems, but I'm not yet 100% sure...
Not all of my issues are completely the same as yours, but still similar.
First of all, my device is a Galaxy S3 mini, CM11 installed, rooted, XPosed installed with several modules (but no Gravity or Wanam). All partitions are in ext4, external SDcard is in exFAT.
(1) root: During startup, Titanium asks an awful lot of times for boot access. Sometimes it does for 50-100 times. In the end, devices will still be rooted but startup takes a long time.
(2) startup: As mentioned: takes really long. With EVERY reboot, I get the "Android is upgrading..." message for about a minute.
This issue is solved by clearing all .odex-files with Lucky Patcher.
(3) Keyboard. I used Google Keyboard as my standard keyboard, but a while after installing/flashing (10 minutes to an hour) Google Keyboard uninstalls spontaneously (without interaction). This happened with all Keyboard versions I tried, in system and in data. And with or without it checked as primary keyboard in language & input settings. (because of those issues I switch to SwiftKey)
(4) Background: Background (custom wallpaper) disappears after a crash, and instead I get a static generic Android wallpaper. Also, every time I try to set my wallpaper back, device instantly reboots. (soft reboot which crashes and goes into a full reboot)
(5) Clock freeze: I've had those clock freezes a few times, but months ago. I think in my case it was due to some bad code in the ROM, not Titanium.
(6) Root: Even though in SuperSU settings I asked to remember autorisation, and automatically grant access, but after every boot, I had to grant permission to all apps using root access over and over again.
In order to try to solve my problems, I changed a few things.
- Google Now Launcher + XGelSettings instead of Nova Launcher. This didn't solve any of these problems, but I do like GNL more now
- I'm using Titanium Backup 6.1.5.4 stead of latest version, installed as a data app.
- I'm using SuperSU 1.98 instead of latest version, flashed as a system app.
- I'm using an older ROM version (CM M5 instead of CM M9/latest)
Most of my issues are gone now. I didn't check for (3) anymore.
armadiljo said:
I also experienced some weird behaviour. I do suspect Titanium tp cause the problems, but I'm not yet 100% sure...
Not all of my issues are completely the same as yours, but still similar.
First of all, my device is a Galaxy S3 mini, CM11 installed, rooted, XPosed installed with several modules (but no Gravity or Wanam). All partitions are in ext4, external SDcard is in exFAT.
(1) root: During startup, Titanium asks an awful lot of times for boot access. Sometimes it does for 50-100 times. In the end, devices will still be rooted but startup takes a long time.
(2) startup: As mentioned: takes really long. With EVERY reboot, I get the "Android is upgrading..." message for about a minute.
This issue is solved by clearing all .odex-files with Lucky Patcher.
(3) Keyboard. I used Google Keyboard as my standard keyboard, but a while after installing/flashing (10 minutes to an hour) Google Keyboard uninstalls spontaneously (without interaction). This happened with all Keyboard versions I tried, in system and in data. And with or without it checked as primary keyboard in language & input settings. (because of those issues I switch to SwiftKey)
(4) Background: Background (custom wallpaper) disappears after a crash, and instead I get a static generic Android wallpaper. Also, every time I try to set my wallpaper back, device instantly reboots. (soft reboot which crashes and goes into a full reboot)
(5) Clock freeze: I've had those clock freezes a few times, but months ago. I think in my case it was due to some bad code in the ROM, not Titanium.
(6) Root: Even though in SuperSU settings I asked to remember autorisation, and automatically grant access, but after every boot, I had to grant permission to all apps using root access over and over again.
In order to try to solve my problems, I changed a few things.
- Google Now Launcher + XGelSettings instead of Nova Launcher. This didn't solve any of these problems, but I do like GNL more now
- I'm using Titanium Backup 6.1.5.4 stead of latest version, installed as a data app.
- I'm using SuperSU 1.98 instead of latest version, flashed as a system app.
- I'm using an older ROM version (CM M5 instead of CM M9/latest)
Most of my issues are gone now. I didn't check for (3) anymore.
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Thank you for the information. I kind of suspect that Titanium Backup had something to do with my problems, as well, since it happened right around the time that a scheduled action was to take place. I think that TB was still in the middle of the previous operation at 2am when it tried to start the next one at 2:30. This has never caused a problem before, but maybe it was at the wrong place at the wrong time, as odd as that may sound.
Your problems seem to be a more constant hassle. Especially the parts about granting SU access several times. I'm leaning toward the fact that your external SD card might interfere a little. External memory is handled a lot differently in kitkat builds, which CM11 is. In newer custom ROMs, there are attempts made to "fix" it... but in your case, maybe it was counter-intuitive.
The issue is that, to paraphrase... Kit-Kat imposes a lot of data access restrictions on external media. So... if you create a file in one app... you can't modify that file in another. That's a bastardization of the whole thing, I'm sure... so look up the particulars from someone more qualified than I. haha
If I were you (and I had a few hours to burn)... I'd back up everything on your external card and your internal memory (a good idea in any case),
clear EVERYTHING and reinstall the latest versions of everything without the external card in your phone. See if you still have issues. If you don't, then the card might be a problem. Then, wipe the card and put it back in your phone, and let your phone reformat it. At that point, copy your backed-up card data to your external card in whatever way is best to keep KitKat from messing it all up again.
Luckily, I don't have issues with my external card, except for the fact that, say, if I want to put a picture of my son as my wallpaper or notification shade background... if I pick a file from the card, it won't load after I restart my phone. For stuff like this... make sure that you put the pic ON YOUR PHONE STORAGE. Consider it like this... you wouldn't have a lot of luck if your PC's desktop background or screensaver ran from the CD drive, as opposed to your hard drive.
@DrPhant0m
I already went to that process of backing up, wiping and so on. Actually, I already did it twice.
The first time, I cleaned my device, installed latest versions of everything, went through the restoring process. But most of my mentioned issues still existed.
The second time, I cleaned my device again, did about exactly what you mentioned, but I restored some older versions of the ROM, SuperSU and Titanium Backup Pro. And right now, my issues are gone!
Actually, I didn't realise there are so many KitKat-related issues with SD. Maybe my pictures indeed are/where stored on a faulty SD. But it's reformatted now, and it works. And I actually don't know if that picture is stored internally or externally, I selected the picture with/by Google Photo. No idea how it handles is
I'm not saying Titanium certainly will be the bad guy, but I'm quite sure it plays it's part in it. Other issues are caused by the custom ROM. In the last few months, developers of that ROM don't give a **** about solving issues, and introduce one new feature after the other, most of them still highly experimental. Maybe that's another problem I can't control at all
I have found that Titanium always deletes my custom wallpaper and replaces it with the Samsung default every time I do a backup. It also changes my keyboard (normally Hacker's Keyboard) back to Samsung keyboard. It started doing this several updates ago.
Verizon Note 3, 4.4.2, NC4, stock rooted
Titanium Free 6.1.5.6
Michele31415 said:
I have found that Titanium always deletes my custom wallpaper and replaces it with the Samsung default every time I do a backup. It also changes my keyboard (normally Hacker's Keyboard) back to Samsung keyboard. It started doing this several updates ago.
Verizon Note 3, 4.4.2, NC4, stock rooted
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Every time you do a backup it does this? That's bizarre. Or, do you mean when you restore a backup? I want to say to update to the paid version and see if it fixes it, and if not... request a refund.
What info do you back up when this happens? I could see restoring a backup working against you. For instance, if you restore your keyboard and maybe even some language/input system files... it might default back to the standard keyboard because your confirmation to use a 3rd party keyboard (which could theoretically log all of your keystrokes) is no longer valid.
The background thing is a different story. When Titanium Backup works well... when I restore all of my "MUST HAVE" stuff after a new ROM install... it will restore my live wallpaper, too. There are often times that TB will NOT "work well" and the widgets and wallpaper (among other things) aren't restored properly... not to mention the fact that I can not get my bluetooth pairings and known wifi networks to restore, whether I use snapshot or XML.
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Every time you do a backup it does this? That's bizarre.
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Yes. It is.
DrPhant0m said:
Or, do you mean when you restore a backup? I want to say to update to the paid version and see if it fixes it, and if not... request a refund..
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No, I don't mean upon restoration. I mean I take a full backup (user apps + system apps), go off for a cup of coffee, come back, see that it completed OK, exit TI, and then I see that my background is back to the Samsung default and it I open something that needs keyboard, the keyboard is also back to Samsung default. I guess it was never enough of a bother for me to go to the trouble of buying it and then complaining. I figure that for free, I can put up with a minor annoyance.
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What info do you back up when this happens? I could see restoring a backup working against you. For instance, if you restore your keyboard and maybe even some language/input system files... it might default back to the standard keyboard because your confirmation to use a 3rd party keyboard (which could theoretically log all of your keystrokes) is no longer valid.
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I can see where you're thinking, but it happens right after *doing* the backup. I haven't even had the need to do a full restore yet, so I don't know what that would do.
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The background thing is a different story. When Titanium Backup works well... when I restore all of my "MUST HAVE" stuff after a new ROM install... it will restore my live wallpaper, too. There are often times that TB will NOT "work well" and the widgets and wallpaper (among other things) aren't restored properly... not to mention the fact that I can not get my bluetooth pairings and known wifi networks to restore, whether I use snapshot or XML.
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It's very odd, that's for sure.
What apps do you use daily to make daily backups of your phone?
I'm surprise google doesn't backup most of your phone as the IPhone does.
Google photos has been great to keep my photos, but other app data or SMS/MMS, call logs, and other settings are such a hassle.
I usually make a nanroid backup of my phone, but I learned you can have a lot of trouble if you break, or worse, lose your phone.
I've also began to use Titanium backup, but it doesn't work to bring the phone back to the state it was in.
So what apps do you guys use that make great backups?
The only app you need is Titanium Backup, it can backup all of your user apps and your sms/mms. Pro version is required though. There is no reliable way to backup your system settings, so it shouldn't even be attempted. The only true way to make a complete backup of your phone is via a nandroid backup. I think the "but I learned you can have a lot of trouble if you break, or worse, lose your phone" line in your post is quite misleading though, from memory your issue was that you basically used up all of the storage space before putting your old nandroid onto the phone. A nandroid is the one way to make a snapshot of your entire device that can be used at a later stage (on the same phone, or on a replacement phone of the same model). Any issues arising from the use of a nandroid are virtually always a case of user error.
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The only app you need is Titanium Backup, it can backup all of your user apps and your sms/mms. Pro version is required though. There is no reliable way to backup your system settings, so it shouldn't even be attempted. The only true way to make a complete backup of your phone is via a nandroid backup. I think the "but I learned you can have a lot of trouble if you break, or worse, lose your phone" line in your post is quite misleading though, from memory your issue was that you basically used up all of the storage space before putting your old nandroid onto the phone. A nandroid is the one way to make a snapshot of your entire device that can be used at a later stage (on the same phone, or on a replacement phone of the same model). Any issues arising from the use of a nandroid are virtually always a case of user error.
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What i have learned from a Nanroid backup, is that it is EXACTLY a screenshot image of your phone. There are certain issues that do arise, such as when i have had received my replacement phone from Google, restoring from the Nanroid cause fingerprint to stop working. What I learned was that the fingerprint hardware ID is different for each phone. So restoring from one Nexus 6P phone to a replacement phone isn't possible, unless i'm doing something wrong?
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What i have learned from a Nanroid backup, is that it is EXACTLY a screenshot image of your phone. There are certain issues that do arise, such as when i have had received my replacement phone from Google, restoring from the Nanroid cause fingerprint to stop working. What I learned was that the fingerprint hardware ID is different for each phone. So restoring from one Nexus 6P phone to a replacement phone isn't possible, unless i'm doing something wrong?
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It might just be a case of removing security before making the backup. Or you could be right and it's impossible, but I'm pretty sure I've seen people talk about successfully restoring a nand from their previous 6P here in this forum.
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It might just be a case of removing security before making the backup. Or you could be right and it's impossible, but I'm pretty sure I've seen people talk about successfully restoring a nand from their previous 6P here in this forum.
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I removed all security and passwords beforehand. All the threads i look through lead to people restoring the nanroid on a replacement device and having the error. They had all removed security and everything as well. It would be great to find this particular file that is causing the issue.
Luckily I still had both phones and made a backup of everything using titanium backup. While it does suck restoring everything, at least at the end of the day i still have all my data.
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I removed all security and passwords beforehand. All the threads i look through lead to people restoring the nanroid on a replacement device and having the error. They had all removed security and everything as well. It would be great to find this particular file that is causing the issue.
Luckily I still had both phones and made a backup of everything using titanium backup. While it does suck restoring everything, at least at the end of the day i still have all my data.
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Well there ya go, I learned something today. I guess nandroids are only good for the same device, that still makes them pretty valuable in my opinion. One should have a Titanium backup of their apps anyway. I guess I don't see it as much of a big deal because I can usually have my phone completely set up again with about 15 minutes after a clean flash. So I'm not concerned about system settings but the Titanium backup of my user apps is priceless.
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What apps do you use daily to make daily backups of your phone?
I'm surprise google doesn't backup most of your phone as the IPhone does.
Google photos has been great to keep my photos, but other app data or SMS/MMS, call logs, and other settings are such a hassle.
I usually make a nanroid backup of my phone, but I learned you can have a lot of trouble if you break, or worse, lose your phone.
I've also began to use Titanium backup, but it doesn't work to bring the phone back to the state it was in.
So what apps do you guys use that make great backups?
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Titanium Backup is the Best One Around ..
And Super Backup Pro App for Backup Of SMS,CallLogs Alone.. Other Than I'll Use Titanium Backup Only For Everything..
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Well there ya go, I learned something today. I guess nandroids are only good for the same device, that still makes them pretty valuable in my opinion. One should have a Titanium backup of their apps anyway. I guess I don't see it as much of a big deal because I can usually have my phone completely set up again with about 15 minutes after a clean flash. So I'm not concerned about system settings but the Titanium backup of my user apps is priceless.
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Yeah, but man does it take forever to customize your phone to your liking. Rooting and getting the right apps to act in the right way. I never mind with a new phone since its a fresh start, but just restoring and replacing it. The nexus 6P has been my switch from Iphone and I've been on the iphone since they first released. Everything was always just there, but then again if you did jailbreak it and add your own features, you would have to do the same thing.
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Titanium Backup is the Best One Around ..
And Super Backup Pro App for Backup Of SMS,CallLogs Alone.. Other Than I'll Use Titanium Backup Only For Everything..
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I haven't used any other app besides Titantium backup. I did have some issues with SMS/MMS but i learned if i restore from XML, and then wipe messenger, it makes it restore like new. Strange but it works for me.
I'll give Super Backup Pro App a chance, better to have more backups vs none.
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I haven't used any other app besides Titantium backup. I did have some issues with SMS/MMS but i learned if i restore from XML, and then wipe messenger, it makes it restore like new. Strange but it works for me.
I'll give Super Backup Pro App a chance, better to have more backups vs none.
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Yeah Super Backup Pro ..Works Good, You Can Try It ..As I'm A Frequent ROM Changer ..Week Once Nowadays.. I Use This App to Restore My SMS & Callogs & Contacts.. Its Works fine..I'm On RR(CM13) Now..
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Yeah, but man does it take forever to customize your phone to your liking. Rooting and getting the right apps to act in the right way. I never mind with a new phone since its a fresh start, but just restoring and replacing it. The nexus 6P has been my switch from Iphone and I've been on the iphone since they first released. Everything was always just there, but then again if you did jailbreak it and add your own features, you would have to do the same thing.
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That's what I'm saying, after a clean flash my phone is customised to my liking within 15 minutes. I have been doing this for a while though.
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I removed all security and passwords beforehand. All the threads i look through lead to people restoring the nanroid on a replacement device and having the error. They had all removed security and everything as well. It would be great to find this particular file that is causing the issue.
Luckily I still had both phones and made a backup of everything using titanium backup. While it does suck restoring everything, at least at the end of the day i still have all my data.
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Wow, I didn't know this. Thanks for the info. Hopefully I won't ever need to restore to a different device.
From what I understand, you can use Titanium Backup to restore from a nandroid backup.
http://www.guidingtech.com/13501/restore-apps-nandroid-titanium-backup/
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Wow, I didn't know this. Thanks for the info. Hopefully I won't ever need to restore to a different device.
From what I understand, you can use Titanium Backup to restore from a nandroid backup.
http://www.guidingtech.com/13501/restore-apps-nandroid-titanium-backup/
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I saw that also, but dint try it out. I made a complete system and user back up using titanium, but it caused some issues and the device was running slower.
These are the issues: When you make a nanaroid backup, it makes a complete mirror copy of your device. Which is great to restore on the same device, however when you load the nanroid on to another device, it copies all the hardware information also. This causes the new/replacement device to have some hardware issues since it doesn't have the same device/hardware IDs.
Problem with restoring from Titanium is that it will not restore properly with rooted software. Its great to make a backup of like games, sms/mms, and other software that runs. It just wont restore like a nanroid image. So you virtually have to setup all your rooted apps again and setup most of your customization. I say most, and not all, since titanium will restore a lot of the setting saved on the app, but some will not work properly.
For example, i use F.lux, for dimming the screen for day and night, this is a rooted app. When i use titanium to backup and restore to another device, it will save and restore my setting just perfectly. However, another app such as the Xposed framework and all its apps, will not restore properly with Titanium since this is making major changes to the system software and not just installing an app with settings.
The only issue so far that i have seen is the fingerprint will shut its hardware down since the hardware ID do not match, and also android pay will refuse to load. I did not have any issues with my cellular data, wifi, bluetooth, or really much. It seems that the fingerprint and android pay are major security concerns and require the system to take additional checks to make sure nothing is changed or affected.
Solutions?
I bet with android pay i can delete all security settings and restore to have it working. Since android pay is software related, deleting settings would probably let it reset itself, which i haven't tried, and i'll do in a couple days when it my replacement phone working with all the rooted apps as i had customized. I had android pay working on my rooted device before, as i had to make some changes to the system, but it was working.
As far as the fingerprint scanner goes, i would imagine if there was some way to delete the hardware from the android and reinstall it, giving it real hardware IDs to the replacement device, rather then the hardware IDs copied from the nanroid.
Once i get my new device completely up and running to my standards, i'll use the old phone to mess around with nanroids and restoring and all. Hopefully i'll be able to find a solution to restore phones from one device to another.
Sorry if i wrote a lot, i'm trying to put up as much information as i can for the help of others, improvement of apps, and possible new information for future development