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Black speck in Camera lens

Ok, I'm getting frustrated
I've somehow gotten a black speck of something inside my camera lens (not the lens cover...I've already removed that and cleaned it to no avail)
I can see it in the viewfinder, but it never moves. I've tried shooting a small amount of air into the crack above the camera and that hasn't worked either
has anyone successfully removed the camera or gotten into it?
how?
does anyone have any advice for my situation?
camera was a deciding factor for me on this phone and one little speck is messing up all my photos

also, feel free to comment on how stinkin cute my kids are

Did you point the thing at the sun? Part of the sensor could be burned out, which is kind of what that looks like to me.

sryan2k1 said:
Did you point the thing at the sun? Part of the sensor could be burned out, which is kind of what that looks like to me.
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I was afraid somebody would say that.
no I didn't...at least not consciously

Cute kids...

bilbobrian said:
Cute kids...
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yeah, they get that from their momma
anybody know how to fix my little sensor problem?

Mine too....

The camera lens cover is held on with double sided tape. You can pry it off with ease and clean the inside of the lens cover or the camera itself.
You could also access it without removing the lens cover, but that involves removing the battery tray panel thing. That requires removing the 4 torx screws at the corners, removing the void sticker on that screw, and then popping the panel off.
I've had mine off a few times to mess around with swapping the power and volume buttons from the red developer case that I nabbed off EBay. Didn't actually swap the buttons, but took a look at what was involved in the process.
Good luck!

Cute kids man.
Does it affect the quality of the pictures?

ACD168 said:
Cute kids man.
Does it affect the quality of the pictures?
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no, it just adds that stupid black blotch in the middle of all my pictures. I use the camera alot...well, I did before this issue arose.

obededom said:
no, it just adds that stupid black blotch in the middle of all my pictures. I use the camera alot...well, I did before this issue arose.
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dude sorry to hear about this, that is BS!! you should take it into Verizon or call for a refurb! they actually are nice, its like getting a brand new phone, and if it craps out, I guess its rinse and repeat.

My x10 clean and Hardware cam mod. Simple.

Recently purchased a X10 and some how dirt and muck had got under the screen, I decided to buy it as I was confidant I could take it apart and clean it.
One thing I also noticed was that the photos were not very good. Upon inspection of the camera I noticed the plastic cover over the camera lens, this was clean however my theory was any bright light sources off centre of the camera were scattering across this plastic section and making photos look a little washed out and blurry.
Anyway I took the phone apart and cleaned the muck from under the screen and now it looks brand new.
I then popped out this plastic piece from in front of the camera and put her back together.
Here are some disassembly pics.
This is the plastic part i popped out from the camera
And here are the before and after camera samples. Straight out the cam no edit. "more to come"
Before
After
More after shots.
Think you will agree MASSIVE difference. Only draw back is im not sure if the ir filter is built into this plastic bit, and now the camera has no protection from dust etc, but I always clean my gear regularly anyway.
Edit - Seems this glass protection wasnt the IR filter so all is good . I'm dumping new test pics in the following dropbox folder.
http://db.tt/OV9b9WP
Really happy with this phone now.

Wow, that's a huge difference.
3 years ago, my w810i's lens cracked. Photos weren't bad or anything but it bothered me. I bought a cheap pair of glasses online (5$ i think) with a uv film (that's the slight purple tint on the plastic cover) and tried to fashion the lens into a size that could replace the oem piece of glass. I took a few photos and it was a huge difference as well.
Unfortunately, glass from the glasses were too thick and it wouldn't fit with the backcover on. I bought a UV filter for slr cameras but those were way too thick. I thought of trying with a slide cover slip but that project ended up dying when my bro's phone died (i gave him the w810 and picked up a K790a).
Does anyone know of any glass makers/fabricators that can make an optically clear piece of glass with a coat of UV (filter)? I'll take a look online when I get home. I use the camera on my phone pretty regularly so I'd be willing to purchase a glass cover. Just something to protect the lens.

A spec of dust has still got back in today lol. Will take it apart again in the week and plug all the joints.

That is a huge difference in those comparison pictures.
But I guess that cover isn't supposed to come off right?

Damn, how did you took off that plastic camera sheild?
Imagine this with Vignette...

so i guess if i put some high quality glass instead of plastic, quality should increase

What an awesome solution. You should put a guide up on how to do this. You might have good ideas grow from that. Ask the mods if you can do this. I would love a guide to know how if my lens gets that dirty. And those before and after pics are amazing too. Great post and info owner of post.
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Thanks guys. The phones pretty simple to take apart. I had to take it all apart to clean the screen but to cam mod you don't have to remove the motherboard so its much easier. I'm adding pics into my dropbox link all the time too.

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Thanks guys. The phones pretty simple to take apart. I had to take it all apart to clean the screen but to cam mod you don't have to remove the motherboard so its much easier. I'm adding pics into my dropbox link all the time too.
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Does removing this part have any negative effects?
Like would the lens be more prone to dust & scratches without it?

I noticed on some picutures that theres a minute amount of red tint. Is that normal?

That IS a huge difference.
Do you think it would be hard to repaint the whole device from white to black?
EDIT: Done!

Night and day difference. Incredible. Please tell me this doesnt require messing around with the screen as I dont want to risk messing with the screen placement or anything.
How exactly do we remove this little piece?

clixt said:
I noticed on some picutures that theres a minute amount of red tint. Is that normal?
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I think i see a red tint on photos of my chickens, maybe the colors of the chickens is messing with the auto white balance?
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That IS a huge difference.
Do you think it would be hard to repaint the whole device from white to black?
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fairly easy i would say.
3dawg said:
Night and day difference. Incredible. Please tell me this doesnt require messing around with the screen as I dont want to risk messing with the screen placement or anything.
How exactly do we remove this little piece?
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ok The only reason i took the phone apart is to get to the screen I had bad dust under it and had to take the lot apart to get to the screen.
For the cam mod take you battery cover off, now inspect the plastic over the camera very closely and you will see its glued down, use a small tool to pry it off.
Lots more pics added to dropbox link.

A few edited with Picnik and put on my Flickr. Sandy girl was actually before the mod "not as sharp as it should have been" All the latest on Dropbox link on first post.
Sandy girl. by Scott..Hutchinson, on Flickr
Summer night coming. by Scott..Hutchinson, on Flickr
Long standing. by Scott..Hutchinson, on Flickr

theninjagecko said:
I think i see a red tint on photos of my chickens, maybe the colors of the chickens is messing with the auto white balance?
fairly easy i would say.
ok The only reason i took the phone apart is to get to the screen I had bad dust under it and had to take the lot apart to get to the screen.
For the cam mod take you battery cover off, now inspect the plastic over the camera very closely and you will see its glued down, use a small tool to pry it off.
Lots more pics added to dropbox link.
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The plastic on my camera is pretty scratched up, so I'd like to take it out.
I tried but it seems really difficult. Can you please elaborate on how you did it?
Which tool did you use, etc?

My_Immortal said:
The plastic on my camera is pretty scratched up, so I'd like to take it out.
I tried but it seems really difficult. Can you please elaborate on how you did it?
Which tool did you use, etc?
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Because i too the phone apart to clean my screen i could poke it out from the back.
if you look really closely its glued from the outside though and you should be able to get a really small flat head screwdriver "from a pc repair kit" and pry it off. It's just glued down.
If you look at this picture with my battery cover off you can see where the glass sits in the circular groove. You can even see some left over glue residue on it.
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theninjagecko said:
Because i too the phone apart to clean my screen i could poke it out from the back.
if you look really closely its glued from the outside though and you should be able to get a really small flat head screwdriver "from a pc repair kit" and pry it off. It's just glued down.
If you look at this picture with my battery cover off you can see where the glass sits in the circular groove. You can even see some left over glue residue on it.
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It seems that it is extremely difficult to do it from the outside.
I've tried everything, it's glued very strongly, it won't come out,
I've been trying for 2 hours! Time to give up!
Thanks for the tips though!

My_Immortal said:
It seems that it is extremely difficult to do it from the outside.
I've tried everything, it's glued very strongly, it won't come out,
I've been trying for 2 hours! Time to give up!
Thanks for the tips though!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypmgeoaDURQ

theninjagecko said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypmgeoaDURQ
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Thanks man!

theninjagecko said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypmgeoaDURQ
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Awesome!
I'm kind of embarrased though, should have thought to search on YouTube myself!

Protective Plastic

Hi, just got my LGG2. Love it! For anyone who doesn't know there are very small pieces of protective plastic on the sides that are hard to see. If your device feels rough at all anywhere, there's still plastic to peel off.
Also, does anyone know if there is a piece protecting the camera lens? I can't tell but it kinda looks like there's one on there. Thought I'd check before I get too aggressive with it. The GS4 had one and many people don't even know it and it stays on for weeks giving subpar pics!

I'm wondering the same thing about the camera lens. It kinda looks like it does but I would need a razor to get it started ....and that might be asking for trouble.
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Exactly my thoughts. Hopefully someone knows for sure. Seems kind of odd if it doesn't since the rest of the device was practically shrink wrapped.

so I tried to see using a needle if there was anything there and didn't seem to be. I also placed a piece of tape on it and pulled it off to see if it lifted at all. Didn't seem like anything there

All I know is the blue ring around the camera is not really blue. There's plastic on the ring. The camera lens itself I can't tell.

Gasaraki- said:
All I know is the blue ring around the camera is not really blue. There's plastic on the ring. The camera lens itself I can't tell.
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If you have a blue ring around your lense, you still have plastic on it. Take a little work, but got it off with my fingernail.

cmbtswmr said:
If you have a blue ring around your lense, you still have plastic on it. Take a little work, but got it off with my fingernail.
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Yes, that's exactly what i said. If your ring is blue, there's plastic on it.

Gasaraki- said:
Yes, that's exactly what i said. If your ring is blue, there's plastic on it.
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Meant to quote rquiett who was having trouble using tape and couldn't figure if he had a plastic cover.

Gasaraki- said:
All I know is the blue ring around the camera is not really blue. There's plastic on the ring. The camera lens itself I can't tell.
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ROFLMAO!! I thought that was how it was supposed to look because of the sapphire lense or something! Ahahahah!
At first I thought it looked weird, but then I started to like it. Now I'm torn! Do I take it off or leave it!?
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cmbtswmr said:
If you have a blue ring around your lense, you still have plastic on it. Take a little work, but got it off with my fingernail.
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Do you still have the plastic piece? Can you snap a pic if it? I still cant tell if i have one in there and i want to see the shape of it. Lol! This is ridiculous. Why would some have one and others not? Has to be one on there.
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Hahaha well damn. I thought the blue ring was just a strange design choice.

WMguy said:
Do you still have the plastic piece? Can you snap a pic if it? I still cant tell if i have one in there and i want to see the shape of it. Lol! This is ridiculous. Why would some have one and others not? Has to be one on there.
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I don't. I took it off in the store.
It's a light blue color, but looks darker with the grey behind it. It's the exact size of the bezel around the camera, edge to edge and it is a semi-hard plastic (when i got my nail under it, it shot across the sales floor). I promise you that you will know if it's on there. It's either blue or the exact same burshed aluminum color as the volume rockers (Verizon).

Is this the protect piece that's over the camera and can be removed? I been trying to remove it and I can't.
http://imgur.com/KaJvtoA
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cmbtswmr said:
I don't. I took it off in the store.
It's a light blue color, but looks darker with the grey behind it. It's the exact size of the bezel around the camera, edge to edge and it is a semi-hard plastic (when i got my nail under it, it shot across the sales floor). I promise you that you will know if it's on there. It's either blue or the exact same burshed aluminum color as the volume rockers (Verizon).
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So have anyone else been able to remove this so called protective film or Plastic piece off the back of the camera? My friend tried and the entire piece that surround the camera lens, began to come off.

plmiller0905 said:
So have anyone else been able to remove this so called protective film or Plastic piece off the back of the camera? My friend tried and the entire piece that surround the camera lens, began to come off.
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What???
I think you got something else going on over there. It took me all of two seconds to pop it off with a fingernail. It's not stuck on there hard. So if you're applying any force to it, then you're messing with the bezel not the plastic.
I really suggest you swing by a store and check their display model. It almost certainly has the plastic off by now and you can compare in person.
Good luck

Camera lens scratched???

So I took a look at my lens today and almost fell off my chair, I was like is that what I think it is, sure enough I grabbed a magnifying loop and holly crap it was scratched like crazy. I've had a case on since day one from Version. Just wondering if this is a factory defect or cheap glass on our lens.
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Not sure about the material. What you seen as the lens is not really the lens, its a protective cover. This camera has a faily wide angle lens and the minimum focus distance is waaaay looonger than the distance between the cover and the sensor. A scartch on the lens cover will have ZERO impact on your images. Dont buy into apples sapphire glass lens hype. I have old lenses with demolished front element that produce perfect images

But u had to get a magnifying glass?????

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So I took a look at my lens today and almost fell off my chair, I was like is that what I think it is, sure enough I grabbed a magnifying loop and holly crap it was scratched like crazy. I've had a case on since day one from Version. Just wondering if this is a factory defect or cheap glass on our lens.
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They aren't scratches, get the light to shine off the surface of the glass, it will be clean, they are cracks inside the glass, about to return my third one because of this. I use a jewelers loupe to look at them, this is bad and your going to hear a lot about this issue soon. All the same problem, the crack lines run from top of phone to bottom of the phone on the lens.

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They aren't scratches, get the light to shine off the surface of the glass, it will be clean, they are cracks inside the glass, about to return my third one because of this. I use a jewelers loupe to look at them, this is bad and your going to hear a lot about this issue soon. All the same problem, the crack lines run from top of phone to bottom of the phone on the lens.
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mine has cracks too. can i just take it back to verizon? ive only had it 5 days. or do i need to call and get one sent?

afmracer6 said:
mine has cracks too. can i just take it back to verizon? ive only had it 5 days. or do i need to call and get one sent?
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First off "F'N SLAYER!!!"
I'm not with Verizon, I'm with T-Mobile and have a business account. Do they look like these? the top picture?

I'm going to try and get a pic on my 230x usb microscope and post it here stay tuned!

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First off "F'N SLAYER!!!"
I'm not with Verizon, I'm with T-Mobile and have a business account. Do they look like these? the top picture?[/QUOTE
YES. looks like imperfections in a diamond. cant get a good pic of them. small but visible with the naked eye.
ill try to get a macro pic with my g/s 's note 2 tonight.
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Seems to me that unbreakable sapphire isn't really a benefit if it comes with imperfections...

Ready2Mosh said:
They aren't scratches, get the light to shine off the surface of the glass, it will be clean, they are cracks inside the glass, about to return my third one because of this. I use a jewelers loupe to look at them, this is bad and your going to hear a lot about this issue soon. All the same problem, the crack lines run from top of phone to bottom of the phone on the lens.
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How does this happen? How do you cause cracks inside the glass?

Hopefully, it's just the slightly lower Q.C. from the first batch of G2's before LG ramps up production. Almost all newly-released phones have this issue. The Note 3 is having this wiggly home button issue. Either way, it's inexcusable for LG and it's good that you guys are letting us know about this. I plan to get a G2 soon and i'll be taking a very close look at those lens before i move out of the shop.

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How does this happen? How do you cause cracks inside the glass?
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Same way it happens in gemstones, stress. I think I have figured out what is happening, if you put your phone in a place where it can flex ever so slightly, the lens glass touches the outside casing, causing stress and thats when the cracks appear. So if you put your phone in your back pocket and sit down, that would cause the phone to have flex, thus causing the glass to stress and cracking.
I think I found something that actually tells how this is happening. Read here
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Hopefully, it's just the slightly lower Q.C. from the first batch of G2's before LG ramps up production. Almost all newly-released phones have this issue. The Note 3 is having this wiggly home button issue. Either way, it's inexcusable for LG and it's good that you guys are letting us know about this. I plan to get a G2 soon and i'll be taking a very close look at those lens before i move out of the shop.
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It happens after you've had it and used it, it will look clean when your in the store.

Ready2Mosh said:
Same way it happens in gemstones, stress. I think I have figured out what is happening, if you put your phone in a place where it can flex ever so slightly, the lens glass touches the outside casing, causing stress and thats when the cracks appear. So if you put your phone in your back pocket and sit down, that would cause the phone to have flex, thus causing the glass to stress and cracking.
I think I found something that actually tells how this is happening. Read here
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I see. Yeah I never put my smartphones in my back pocket like I see girls do. I always put my phone on my side pocket. I am definitely going to be putting on a case for this little guy just for added protection when I get the phone.

thewihlygeek said:
Seems to me that unbreakable sapphire isn't really a benefit if it comes with imperfections...
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Not unbreakable, otherwise we wouldn't be able to cut it, same as diamond. Sapphire is 9 on the Mohs' scale of hardness, diamond is obviously 10, the hardest substance, but even it can break and scratch. The thing is the difference in hardness between 9 and 10, it's like 140 times harder, wow!
Your exactly right about the imperfections, if the edges are damaged, they are already doomed to crack, and you can't see it because it's smaller than the eye can see and it's in a frame. But if you look closely you can see the edge looks rough, unfinished, theres the problem.
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ericdabbs said:
I see. Yeah I never put my smartphones in my back pocket like I see girls do. I always put my phone on my side pocket. I am definitely going to be putting on a case for this little guy just for added protection when I get the phone.
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Get one that doesn't flex!

Goodbye all, moved onto the note 3 as I know it will continue to happen. Good Luck all, hope you don't have the experience I did.

Just got my LG2 today, Is there any plastic film covering the camera lens? Seems to me there is but I cant take it out :laugh:

daraj said:
Just got my LG2 today, Is there any plastic film covering the camera lens? Seems to me there is but I cant take it out :laugh:
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Lol so crazy you said that! I kept picking at it (not too hard) because it looks like there is plastic there. Glad I wasn't the only one thinking that
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Ready2Mosh said:
Goodbye all, moved onto the note 3 as I know it will continue to happen. Good Luck all, hope you don't have the experience I did.
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Bye. Good luck with that lag fest and crappy pentile screen. And good luck with the loose home buttons and crappy reception that people are already reporting. All in a $750 device lol.
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i think you've been putting pressure on the lens when you mistakenly push it while touching the buttons at the back.

canecbr600 said:
But u had to get a magnifying glass?????
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My initial thought as well! lol
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But u had to get a magnifying glass?????
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daraj said:
Just got my LG2 today, Is there any plastic film covering the camera lens? Seems to me there is but I cant take it out :laugh:
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I tired too (briefly) but theres only film on the surrounding bezel of the lens, not on the lens itself. Surprisingly enough, i thought at the bezel of the lens was blue..for 5 days!

Camera glass broke in pocket

Must've leaned against something while the phone was in my pocket but it broke without me knowing so the impact couldn't have been very much.
Cheap poor quality glass on the camera for it to break that easily without me knowing in my pocket during its first 12 hours of use.
For some reason I can't figure out how to embed an image so here is a link to the damage
https://imgur.com/a/3b0hPiY

I find that hard to believe. Cnet dropped the phone numerous times on concrete and the glass covering the camera was the *only* thing to survive.. You must have really hit it hard. Nonetheless I do feel bad for you. What are you going to do?
Please keep us posted.

Chotu88 said:
Must've leaned against something while the phone was in my pocket but it broke without me knowing so the impact couldn't have been very much.
Cheap poor quality glass on the camera for it to break that easily without me knowing in my pocket during its first 12 hours of use.
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Doesn't need to be a hard hit if it was a small point that hit the screen. Remember the pressure applied to the glass is a combination of the force and the size of the contact point.

Exactly. But I have ti admint I was also surprised by the CNET Video - phew.
For the OP, the Camera Glass is relatively easy to replace as part of the back.

All the drop test videos I see shows the camera being the last thing to break from extreme heights. Maybe something pointy struck it.

Swimguy14 said:
I find that hard to believe. Cnet dropped the phone numerous times on concrete and the glass covering the camera was the *only* thing to survive.. You must have really hit it hard. Nonetheless I do feel bad for you. What are you going to do?
Please keep us posted.
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Wasn't able to get it repaired as the Samsung stores didn't even have the phone launched when this happened.
I have to wait around with a broken camera glass until they have the spare parts to replace it.
But I will have to suck it up and pay 1 or 200 hundred bucks to repair it.

If you paid with credit card, check if your credit card has accidental damage protection

Rotten luck man. I feel for you. Quickly get it insured

Swimguy14 said:
I find that hard to believe. Cnet dropped the phone numerous times on concrete and the glass covering the camera was the *only* thing to survive.. You must have really hit it hard. Nonetheless I do feel bad for you. What are you going to do?
Please keep us posted.
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I find it easy to believe. If you tap the camera housing with your fingernail, it sounds and feels incredibly flimsy, and you can even pick at the edge of the glass a little. I have concerns about the long term endurance..

In back pocket? It drives me crazy when I see phones in back pockets lol
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Swimguy14 said:
I find that hard to believe. Cnet dropped the phone numerous times on concrete and the glass covering the camera was the *only* thing to survive.. You must have really hit it hard. Nonetheless I do feel bad for you. What are you going to do?
Please keep us posted.
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In back pocket? It drives me crazy when I see phones in back pockets lol
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Front pocket. Must've leaned against something that punctured it twice without me knowing.

unfnknblvbl said:
I find it easy to believe. If you tap the camera housing with your fingernail, it sounds and feels incredibly flimsy, and you can even pick at the edge of the glass a little. I have concerns about the long term endurance..
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Only thing I can pick at the edge is the preinstalled screen protector.

Can we get a picture?

Smashed camera glass s 20 ultra
Hi all, I too have this same issue. I recently posted it on the galaxys20ultra subreddit.

Khyle94 said:
Hi all, I too have this same issue. I recently posted it on the galaxys20ultra subreddit.
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And how were you able to fix it?
The Samsung store doesn't even have replacement parts yet for over a week now so now my s20 ultra has dust in the lens and is causing black marks in pictures. Keeps getting worse and worse.

Chotu88 said:
Must've leaned against something while the phone was in my pocket but it broke without me knowing so the impact couldn't have been very much.
Cheap poor quality glass on the camera for it to break that easily without me knowing in my pocket during its first 12 hours of use.
For some reason I can't figure out how to embed an image so here is a link to the damage
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What did you end up doing? If you still have it, I'll buy it from you. List on eBay?

Oof that was painful to watch, Glad I put a skin on those camera lenses.
With a good case you are ready to go.
Bad luck man.

Sora94 said:
Oof that was painful to watch, Glad I put a skin on those camera lenses.
With a good case you are ready to go.
Bad luck man.
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What's a skin gonna do? Make it look nice that's all.
I put a tempered glass screen protector on my lens and the case gives the lens protection also

clone1008 said:
Only thing I can pick at the edge is the preinstalled screen protector.
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Are you saying there's a screen protector on the camera?

lawtq said:
What's a skin gonna do? Make it look nice that's all.
I put a tempered glass screen protector on my lens and the case gives the lens protection also
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Link for the glass protector for the lens? Thanks in advance