Afternoon peeps
I have discovered something a little concerning about the XZ.
I clean my phone on a regular basis of fingerprints and dust, today I noticed the little rubber covers were dirty around the sill so I decided to clean them. with a cloth I wiped down the phones glass slabs and then wiped the rubber gaskets as with these ports there are nooks and cranies where dirt can get so I got out the compressed air to blow out any small particles.
To my horror the phone inflated making the screen and the back glass flex out off the phone like a balloon, I was sure I was seeing this so i held the phone in a manner where i could watch the reflection on the glass and sure enough it's bending to accommodate the compressed air. This may explain the glass being very sturdy to drops due to this flex, but how thick is it if it bends so easily?
For reference I was using canned compressed air, not a high powered high compressor.
I thought I'd share with the community about this, I suppose it shows it's water tight as it didn't escape out a gap etc.
Either way i'm a little shocked at the glass thickness.
has this ever happened to you with a different cell phone?
Any photo evidence of bubble phone?
That sounds like the battery expanding. It could indicate a faulty battery.
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As I said gentlemen, the phone expands with the air pressure from the compressed air canister. The phone returned to its original shape as soon as I stopped spraying the air.
This isn't a case of the phone staying like it, but seeing glass flex that much is worrying
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LBTaylor1984 said:
As I said gentlemen, the phone expands with the air pressure from the compressed air canister. The phone returned to its original shape as soon as I stopped spraying the air.
This isn't a case of the phone staying like it, but seeing glass flex that much is worrying
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I would much rather see it flex alot then shatter personally. If it can take as much abuse as you say then it simply makes me more confident in its ability to survive damage
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Not surprising, if it bellows out then that means its perfectly sealed. Other IP57 phones would do the same.
Try doing it with a non-IP57 phone and there are plenty of gaps for the air to escape..
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Not surprising, if it bellows out then that means its perfectly sealed. Other IP57 phones would do the same.
Try doing it with a non-IP57 phone and there are plenty of gaps for the air to escape..
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Yeah. Because the phone's shell is sealed. So nothing comes in means nothing will come out.
The phone itself uses thin glass and is flexible. I remember the YouTube videos of the Korean guy who bent his Z into an arc shape (it was fine). So yeah, I'd say what you are seeing is correct.
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Perhaps it's just me, but i'm not used to the term flexible glass I still see glass as a rigid material so any flex seems out of character. It seems fine obviously after this but I just thought it would be solid inflexible etc.
I read the title of the post and got scared -_- lol. After reading it thought I fully understood what went on with the "balloon effect". The glass for these phones are amazing...very strong and flexible...like a pole dancer
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Perhaps it's just me, but i'm not used to the term flexible glass I still see glass as a rigid material so any flex seems out of character. It seems fine obviously after this but I just thought it would be solid inflexible etc.
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Inflexible glass would shatter the instant you dropped it from waist height on to any non carpeted surface.
The glass on the Z is much more intelligently designed and expensive than that.
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Agree with the above post. People are really taking the Glass by the conventional sense of the word. Windows and such. I much prefer the flexible variety. Which you may or may not know traces it's roots back to Roman times. Bit of useless information for you.
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decadan1977 said:
Agree with the above post. People are really taking the Glass by the conventional sense of the word. Windows and such. I much prefer the flexible variety. Which you may or may not know traces it's roots back to Roman times. Bit if useless information for you.
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If you've ever been in your house in a storm with strong wind, the glass in your windows flexes just as much :good:
decadan1977 said:
Agree with the above post. People are really taking the Glass by the conventional sense of the word. Windows and such. I much prefer the flexible variety. Which you may or may not know traces it's roots back to Roman times. Bit of useless information for you.
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Totally.
And some people just don't know how tempered glass works.
I'm a builder and when we demo houses we throw hammers, bricks whatever we can find to smash tempered glass. 99% of the time everything just bounces off.
But tap the raw edge with a chisel and the whole pane literally explodes.
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i see you ride DH so lemme ask you this : is your visor flexible or not ? Yes it is... so it doesn't shatter on impact. the same applies to the glass ! Anything that is flexible is a-okay !
Ride safe !
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Either way i'm a little shocked at the glass thickness.
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People expect lightweight & affordable phones. If you take away those two factors, it would be easily possible to use more advanced materials, but your phone might be a couple of times more expensive and certainty a bit heavier.
Transparent Aluminium
so it really is that much water/air proof !! great
I'd only be concerned if it DIDN'T expand at least slightly. It just proves that it's properly sealed and air/water tight.
Blasting such a small device (or any device) with so many sensitive parts all located close to each other with any form of compressed air (be it canned or motorized compressor) is never a good idea. Unless you truly understand what you are doing and know what will happen as a result.
e.g. no consideration was taken into account that the device is water tight and therefore air tight; the effects of using compressed air on it could have been much more severe given there is no where for the air to depressurize. A bending case/glass is nothing compared to potentially cracking the LCD screen underneath the exterior glass.
An old (clean) toothbrush would probably be the better choice for your next spring cleaning session
This is the so called dragon trail glass I believe its a very strong and flexible glass. Do some research
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What do you think everyone, Give us a rating from 1 to 5
5 that is pretty damn sweet. How did you do it
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i rate it a 5 cuz its AWSOME!!! btw i have a few scratches on the battery door cover. can i polish it too to hide the scratches?
What i done was use sand paper designed for metal Or wet and dry sandpaper would also do just fine. then just use a cloth and apply metal polish to it along with the grain of the metal. took me 30 minutes and the metal polish was under £5. And it got rid of all the scratches that were on it so its a good scratch remover too
It looks good. I did this on my HD2. The only problem is it becomes tarnished, scratched and rather unsightly in no time. I often wondered if some sort of lacquer may have been the answer.
i might think of doing this later. is the door more prone to scratches after the polish?
polish it thenput on a full body protector imo
I should probably consider doing this, it looks pretty sweet, and my battery door is currently covered in scratches, and the whatever the coating that goes over the aluminum is, is starting to peel off.
Although I'm likely going to get an extended battery from Seidio, so I'll probably hold off until then, since I'll be getting a new battery door with it.
Might try something like this too. My G2's battery door has the stock clear coat plastic flaking off. I've started to just peel all of it off so I can do something else to it.
i done it a week ago and its just fine no scratches at all, if im not sure the coating they put on the battery door is what scratches because once i had taken it off the scratches disappeared. its like a mirror if you put enough metal polish on it i notice people admiring themselves in the back of my phone when im texting
Should try clear plastidip to coat the polished door.
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Ya thats my biggest complaint. That film is peeling off my back cover also. If i could get that off i would be a happy camper! Not really looking to go to the hardware store to buy **** though. Would rather use some type of household product if that is even possible
I like it. You can use it to signal planes with if you are lost on a island.
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I like it. You can use it to signal planes with if you are lost on a island.
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+1 lolzz
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I remember when this was done a while back, it's still pretty cool. I scraped off my coating when it started peeling. Just use something like copper or a hard plastic so it doesn't scratch the metal. Not sure, but something like acetone should be able to soften the coating and remove it.
By the way - how in the hell did you remove the 'G2' on there? It's recessed just as much as the 'HTC' and I wouln't grind the plate down that much personally. So how did you do it?
EDIT: Took a second look and saw the 'with htc sense'. No wonder it doesn't say G2 lol.
GREAT i rate u 10 i love it
All together this cost less than £5 and a little elbow grease. I would of made a step by step guide or video if I knew anyone else wanted to do it. Because it's very simple to do.
Looks nice!
I customized mine using the laser cutter at my university. I lasered part of a maze that I generated using some algorithm we had to code as an assignment in the protective film (sadly, the laser isn't strong enough to really engrave the cover). It does have quite a few scratches after six months sadly. Maybe I'll buy a new one on ebay and make something else
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Looks nice!
I customized mine using the laser cutter at my university. I lasered part of a maze that I generated using some algorithm we had to code as an assignment in the protective film (sadly, the laser isn't strong enough to really engrave the cover). It does have quite a few scratches after six months sadly. Maybe I'll buy a new one on ebay and make something else
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Wow that's cool. How long did it.take to laser in the marks?
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I thought mine looked good but thats just gone and taken it to another level 10/10
Hey guys! I have a question to ask you fellow SGS II owners, ive noticed that there is a faint "scratch" line forming on the edge of the back of the phone ( the chin part where the antenna is) on mine and my friends, where the battery cover meets the chin, there is a faint scratch/used out line forming on the chin.
Have any of you guys noticed this on your S2, is it something to be concerned about?, the line is really faint but i fear it might get worse over time; its honestly the only thing that makes me want to put a case on this thing because the body is perfect otherwise.
Thanks for your input! cheers
Nip it in the bud and get a case-mate tough case. (or case of your choice)
Not only will it protect it from further damage, but will also hide it
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chrisjcks said:
Nip it in the bud and get a case-mate tough case. (or case of your choice)
Not only will it protect it from further damage, but will also hide it
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yeahh, i just hate using cases because then the phone gets all bulky and loses its amazing thinness! but yeah if this scratch thing is bad then i guess ill likely use a case
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yeahh, i just hate using cases because then the phone gets all bulky and loses its amazing thinness! but yeah if this scratch thing is bad then i guess ill likely use a case
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Personally I had to get a case for mine, as it is just too ludicrously thin and light it didn't feel right in my hand... Just saying.
Got this one, free post came the next day, nice and perfect fit
http://www.amazon.co.uk/GADGETSNTEC...IRMI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1314876435&sr=8-1
yep tha bit of the sgs2 will pick up scratches and show them more then others , it comes into touch with things before most parts of the phone ie laying it camera side down the bit you mention will always be leant on by the rest of the phone
if you are a bit like me and dont like scratches then the casemate tough is defo a good option
however i do agree with you the sgs2 feels so nice without a case its a tricky one i love the way it feels without a case yet i know ill be gutted when it gets scratched :-(
on the other hand can an item i use so much as my sgs2 be expected not to pick up useage marks?? it gets used loads and its bound to pick up wear marks no matter how hard you try to keep it nice
2 options i reckon , get used to the case on the device or learn to live with useage marks tiny little useage scratches aint so bad its when chunks are missing from drops etc
You could buy the zagg invisible shield full body, and you will not notice any difference in weight or size then and you phone will be protected against scratches.
I have my cases on hold, while i think about the new Samsung 2000mah battery as normal might not fit and it would be a waste of money buying one now.
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Personally I had to get a case for mine, as it is just too ludicrously thin and light it didn't feel right in my hand... Just saying.
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Same here
CaseMate added weight and reduced the risk of dropping my baby because of the rubber surface
The back cover on this phone doesn't make a sound, but in terms of durability is CHEAP AS HELL: it gets scratched very very easy...the first layer is really thin and weak, and when it starts wearing off the back cover begins to look white/gray, and that's really annoying. I keep my phone in a case pulling it out just to clean it from time and it's already full whitish micro scratches. God knows what would happen to it without a proper case... Also the screen is very prone to scratches: personally i haven't scratched mine because i use a protector since day 1, but a friend of mine went without it for a day and his screen had at least 5 micro scratches already. Note that he's a bank clerk, not a bricklayer, and no, he doesn't carry uncut diamonds in his pockets.
I know that gorilla glass is scratch resistant and not scratch proof, but on the GS2 there's a layer of oleophobic coating on it, which scratches really easy. Be careful with your phone guys, screen protector and case is a must have on this guy
Yes, the scratches on that lip will certainly get worse if you don't cover that area by some method. I think mine got there just from going in and out of my Jeans pocket..
I held the same opinion as OP.. why cover up this of all devices, with it's USP of ultra fine lightweight design? I finally resolved to putting a case on mine when, heavily burdened by shopping bags, I attempted to quickly pull the phone out of my pocket to answer a call but instead lost my grip and sent it cartwheeling across a concrete pavement. All four corners now bear nasty dents/abrasions. A case means a more firm grip and covers up said ugly fall damage...
mine too...
I dropped my tabby lightly today (something that Doesn't happen). despite it being in a case, I managed to scratch the corner up pretty nasty and unclip the clips holding the back plate in the corner. Wow.
A few minutes later totally unrelated (I hope), I felt that the center of my screen very warm. I took off the case to check the temperature in the back, behind the case where it cant ventilate and Wow! it's running hot! mostly Under the ffc and close to the left side of the tablet holding it landscape. I wasn't even doing anything heavy.
So yeah. I love this thing but I gotta say. I hate the choice of materials here Samsung, Plastic just isn't right for a 500 $ flagship. I gotta say, I'm pretty amazed with the gps on this thing though. .. I know it wouldn't be possible without the plastic construction. I gotta wonder why the compass is so bad though.
Anyway, thats my rant for the day. enjoy.
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What kind of case was it so we can prevent this from happening to anyone else?
Also which part of your tab hit the ground. Though i feel for you and your tab, a lesson can be learned from this on how (if ever) in an event you drop your device, how to drop it "the right way" to avoid damage such as this.
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I dropped my tabby lightly today (something that Doesn't happen). despite it being in a case, I managed to scratch the corner up pretty nasty and unclip the clips holding the back plate in the corner. Wow.
A few minutes later totally unrelated (I hope), I felt that the center of my screen very warm. I took off the case to check the temperature in the back, behind the case where it cant ventilate and Wow! it's running hot! mostly Under the ffc and close to the left side of the tablet holding it landscape. I wasn't even doing anything heavy.
So yeah. I love this thing but I gotta say. I hate the choice of materials here Samsung, Plastic just isn't right for a 500 $ flagship. I gotta say, I'm pretty amazed with the gps on this thing though. .. I know it wouldn't be possible without the plastic construction. I gotta wonder why the compass is so bad though.
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If it were a metal back that's tightly bonded to the frame your post would be about how easily the screen cracks. My OG G-Tab 10.1 got run over by an "excuse the cart" after it fell out of my briefcase at DFW airport. It survived unscathed. You spin the wheel and take your chances.
younix258 said:
I dropped my tabby lightly today (something that Doesn't happen). despite it being in a case, I managed to scratch the corner up pretty nasty and unclip the clips holding the back plate in the corner. Wow.
A few minutes later totally unrelated (I hope), I felt that the center of my screen very warm. I took off the case to check the temperature in the back, behind the case where it cant ventilate and Wow! it's running hot! mostly Under the ffc and close to the left side of the tablet holding it landscape. I wasn't even doing anything heavy.
So yeah. I love this thing but I gotta say. I hate the choice of materials here Samsung, Plastic just isn't right for a 500 $ flagship. I gotta say, I'm pretty amazed with the gps on this thing though. .. I know it wouldn't be possible without the plastic construction. I gotta wonder why the compass is so bad though.
Anyway, thats my rant for the day. enjoy.
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I wouldn't have another metal one. They don't give for the screen and moreover, just check how poor wifi and gps signals are on tablets that are made of all metal... such as the TF201... or even more famous tablets...
Well how about wood? Jk idk.. maybe thicker plastic, or a metal structure/bezel with plastic for the back. The iPad feels pretty solid though so idk if metal is always bad.
My case is a poetic faux leather case.. I think it had 'slim' in the name.
It slipped off my car's seat thanks to my dumb disobedient cat and landed right on that corner
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Well how about wood?
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That's one of the funniest things I've seen posted in a long time. Touche.
Lol I could throw my Note across the room and it would be fine. My case is excellent.
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Love the materials rants. First week I dropped my n7k from about 5 ft with only a thin elago case and a screen protector of course and it lands face Down on rough gravel and only a tiny Nick on the very outer bezel between screen protector and case . Nice job Sammy . Last week a co worker drops her iPhone 4 like 3 ft on flat asphalt and crack screen . Hahaha get what you pay for I guess . ....
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So this thread is about you dropping your Note and blaming Samsung for the damage. Seems legit.
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So this thread is about you dropping your Note and blaming Samsung for the damage. Seems legit.
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Why not? We don't want to be the only XDA forum not griping about devices being damaged when we drop them.
SGS3 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1716425
One X - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1606088
TF700 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1803345
younix258 said:
I dropped my tabby lightly today (something that Doesn't happen). despite it being in a case, I managed to scratch the corner up pretty nasty and unclip the clips holding the back plate in the corner. Wow.
A few minutes later totally unrelated (I hope), I felt that the center of my screen very warm. I took off the case to check the temperature in the back, behind the case where it cant ventilate and Wow! it's running hot! mostly Under the ffc and close to the left side of the tablet holding it landscape. I wasn't even doing anything heavy.
So yeah. I love this thing but I gotta say. I hate the choice of materials here Samsung, Plastic just isn't right for a 500 $ flagship. I gotta say, I'm pretty amazed with the gps on this thing though. .. I know it wouldn't be possible without the plastic construction. I gotta wonder why the compass is so bad though.
Anyway, thats my rant for the day. enjoy.
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Sorry to hear. My luck, thankfully, has been different. Dropped mine twice now and nothing wrong. Both times were without a case. Finally got a case and no drops since.
You should know for the asus transformer prime that metal backs are more pretty than functional.
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Well from what I understand though I am not an expert on this the plastic material is better then metals on Ipad as it can absorb most of the shock bot none the less because of the weight of the tablet you will damage it no matter how lightly it is dropped but that said I have a micromax tablet which has been droped kicked around by my sisters kids to an extent where the casing has cracked but tablet is still running
I sugguest you look at rubber casing because they have the tendency to absorb shock more then anything else only draw back they do not look fancy
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Well from what I understand though I am not an expert on this the plastic material is better then metals on Ipad as it can absorb most of the shock bot none the less because of the weight of the tablet you will damage it no matter how lightly it is dropped but that said I have a micromax tablet which has been droped kicked around by my sisters kids to an extent where the casing has cracked but tablet is still running
I sugguest you look at rubber casing because they have the tendency to absorb shock more then anything else only draw back they do not look fancy
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I guess the . and , keys fell off during the impact. :laugh:
once and forever: Samsung devices are cased in polycarbonate and not plastic !!!!!! And this material is used in aircraft and space engineering, it is light and robust and exceeds cheap aluminum in most parameters !!!!!!
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polycarbonate
I do not know how you define plastic, but that sounds like plastic. It is the other way around. We are flying in plastic planes . And I do not think that planes are built out of the same polycarbonates than this tablet. That is far too simplistic.
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once and forever
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That's what you said last time.
Ok This is getting personal lets stick to the issue and irrespective of what material a tablet is made of it will sustain damage if it is dropped its not drop proof so handle with care
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Ok This is getting personal lets stick to the issue and irrespective of what material a tablet is made of it will sustain damage if it is dropped its not drop proof so handle with care
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Sorry, you're wrong. This is a long standing quote that I was kidding the OP about. Also, this is the one forum that I have rarely seen it get personal. Nothing to be concerned about here. :good:
For sure the note 10.1 feels like the cheapest device I have ever got , (in materials and build quality) specially the back blue plastic cover, but if it wasn't made like this it would have been allot heavier and very expensive so get a silicon case or something for it, forget about its build quality and enjoy the real power underhood
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I am in dire need of something to replace my Incredible s.
I work around steel fabrication, meaning lots of steel dust and shavings. After a year, I already had to replace my Incredible s speakers because they became loaded with metal dust, and they are already going out again after a few months.
Anyone use their Nexus in smiler conditions?
I was about to hit the buy button when I read Sony announced the Xperia ZR (water and dust proof/resistant), and now am holding off to see the pricing. It also does away with the two only things that made me hesitate on the Nexus in the first place, memory (I can slide my 32gb card into it) and no glass back.
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I am in dire need of something to replace my Incredible s.
I work around steel fabrication, meaning lots of steel dust and shavings. After a year, I already had to replace my Incredible s speakers because they became loaded with metal dust, and they are already going out again after a few months.
Anyone use their Nexus in smiler conditions?
I was about to hit the buy button when I read Sony announced the Xperia ZR (water and dust proof/resistant), and now am holding off to see the pricing. It also does away with the two only things that made me hesitate on the Nexus in the first place, memory (I can slide my 32gb card into it) and no glass back.
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Hm, metal shavings aren't gonna be good for any phone, even less so for the n4..
The grill holes for the ear piece are small and metal shavings shouldn't get in it to bad I've had to blow mine out a couple of times with canned air but it was from dust of mudding and then sanding dry wall.
Now as for the speaker I think this would go out very easily as the grill holes are bigger
Personally I would look at the HTC one, it's made from a solid price of aluminum and Injected molding for the plastic parts however I do not know what the speaker grills look like for the one. Just seems like it may do better around metal
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If you can get a hold of something to block the openings on the phone, the N4 should be fine. I have no experience with anything near metal dust, but I imagine it could be pretty bad for any device's internals having direct exposure to it (short circuiting and whatnot).
That Xperia ZR sounds like it would be a better choice though.
The only real problem I have is that the speakers have magnets, and hold onto any steel dust that get through the screen covering them. The rest of the phone stays clean with a screen protector and tpu case. I never find any more then a few specks under the case or under the back cover.
when I pulled the speakers out they had a good teaspoon of steel dust stuck all around them.
I'm a steel fabricator as well. What I do is keep my nexus 4 in a zip lock bag. A thicker and smaller one that I got from a shipment of bolts.
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Well.... I weld and work on heavy equipment everyday and have never had a problem. That said I take caution with my phone but there has been a few "incidents" and the only issue I have ever had was caused by media from a blasting machine scratching the screen. I am sure it has been exposed to metal shavings but have never seen any on the speaker grills. I love my nexus, but it isn't the most rugged phone. If I had genuine concern for contaminates from the work environment I would look into a dust and water proof model. Speaking of which Cat has its own android phone coming out....
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I work around paper dust. It gets everywhere. I have a seidio active case. The dust pools at the speaker and camera openings.
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There's also a waterproof ruggedized version of the s4 coming out
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why not put some extension at your tpu case to prevent metal dust to infiltrate?
back speaker is easy to protect...
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....... and no glass back.
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Your wrong my friend....... It does have a glass back! And I've seen it broken all ready.
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Your wrong my friend....... It does have a glass back! And I've seen it broken all ready.
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Not that it matters much here, but the "Z" has a glass back, the newly announces "ZR" is reported to have a plastic back.
what if you stick a piecee of tape over the speaker and ear piece before going to work everyday? sounds kinda cheap but it might work
Take a look at the Cat B15 http://catphones.com/ or JCB Toughphone http://www.jcbtoughphone.com/ or Fortis phones.
They are all listed on Amazon and would likely hold up better than the Nexus even in a hard case.
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For those that googled this lile i did
Been welding for 11 years and been through about 16 phones
A lifeproof case or a redpepper case keeps everything out.
If you dont like typing through a loose peice of plastic like myself
Clean out speaker ports daily with a magnet
Do not use compressed air. I have damaged several speakers with this method.
Hello all,
I am interested in the Turbo 2 but have heard and seen videos of the top most plastic layer (featuring that lovely Verizon logo...) scratching quite easily.
So, here's my question to those that own in - is it feasible to remove that ugly Verizon top layer and put one of the new-age glass screen protectors in place of it? I'd like to have that nice glass feel, and if I ever DO drop it hard and it shatters, merely pay $10-15 for a new glass protector.
Best,
James
(yes, I know adding glass is a bit ironic)
Yes you can remove the outer layer and place a glass one on. The thing is finding one that's a good fit. Verizon sells a flexible glass one and or a pk of three regular soft screen protector on their site. I recommend using theirs because its cut perfect. And they don't come with that logo. Here's what I did, I bought both took off the outer layer put on a soft screen protector and then the glass. Looks and feels better to me. You can find cheaper but they won't be cut right or fit as well.
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Ah, I see. I'll look into the glass Verizon screen, thanks.
And if your screen breaks I don't think Moto will replace because you took off the shattershield. I used the Verizon flexible glass protector on the shattershield shield and feel fine to me.
Per Moto they will not warranty the screen if you run it without the top lens.
I have also seem some comments about the adhesive being different than a standard protector. I do not know if that is concern about damage or just the protector being able to adhere.
I also run the Verizon flexible on top of the lens and cannot tell it is there.
All I did was buy a couple cheap screen protectors and threw one on.
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bigv5150 said:
All I did was buy a couple cheap screen protectors and threw one on.
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I love the Verizon-sold glass protector and it really is virtually invisible on top of the full shatter-shield stack without having to remove the outer layer first. My concern with removing the top layer to put the glass on would be two-fold: 1) potentially having to argue about warranty if they decide that the glass layer wasn't a sufficient cover with the top shatter-shield layer missing, and 2) if you DO drop the phone and glass layer breaks, without the top shatter-shield layer under it, I imagine the plastic underneath will scratch -- and THAT part is NOT replaceable.
For my money, the Verizon glass layer on top of the full shatter-shield stack is a great solution.
I just removed it and maybe my phone is not shatterproof anymore, but I don't pretend to drop my phone to test this feature. Also, it will be always with a case.
I say we shouldn't modify the exterior appearance of the phone because we are not electronic and design engineers. If anyone thinks that are smarter than phone engineers then try and make a smartphone then talk
waterninja21 said:
I say we shouldn't modify the exterior appearance of the phone because we are not electronic and design engineers. If anyone thinks that are smarter than phone engineers then try and make a smartphone then talk
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I had to smile when reading this -- on an XDA Developers forum, considering that this is the home of many thousands of phone enthusiasts who gather regularly to figure out how to how to unlock, root and modify phone firmware and software that was developed by phone software engineers, embedded code specialists, OS specialists, UI specialists, etc. This is the first place I would turn to when looking for people interested in modding their phones. Not mocking, by the way, but just observing that the audience here is more likely to think about modding their phones than pretty much any other audience you will find online.
That said -- caution, and reasoned modding is smart, and ignoring elements of a mechanical engineering design without understanding the rationale behind it is a crapshoot at best. For people willing to gamble, so be it -- but they should understand the risk. For others -- we have enough folks who understand warranty legalese and basic mechanical construction concepts to be able to make at least a somewhat informed assessment. As in any of the custom ROM threads, the basic premise is: you really need to understand what you're doing before you mess with it, or be willing to accept the consequences of your actions without complaining.
Jon