[Q] Note II vs GS4? - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello, I'm wondering which phone I should buy: the n7105/i317m, or the i9500/i9505.
The screen is bigger on the Note, and the S-Pen is nice, but the S4 has 1080p vs 720. Can you use the S-Pen on the S 4?
Which CPU/GPU is better?
Exynos Quad with Mali400-MP, Exynos Octa with PowerVR SGX 544mp3, or Snapdragon 600 Quad Krait 300 w/Adreno 320?
Is there a different CPU on the i317m?
I know both S4 GPUs are better than the note's, but is the difference very noticeable?
Currently I have an S II LTE i727r, which is pretty old. Which one has better AOSP/CM support? Will I be able to use the S-Pen/S4 features under a CM or AOSP rom?
Sorry about all the questions, I just want to know all of the facts before I buy anything. I would be buying unlocked/no contract from Canada.
Thanks in advance.
EDIT: Or the HTC Butterfly/Deluxe?

theo1998 said:
Hello, I'm wondering which phone I should buy: the n7105/i317m, or the i9500/i9505.
The screen is bigger on the Note, and the S-Pen is nice, but the S4 has 1080p vs 720. Can you use the S-Pen on the S 4?
Which CPU/GPU is better?
Exynos Quad with Mali400-MP, Exynos Octa with PowerVR SGX 544mp3, or Snapdragon 600 Quad Krait 300 w/Adreno 320?
Is there a different CPU on the i317m?
I know both S4 GPUs are better than the note's, but is the difference very noticeable?
Currently I have an S II LTE i727r, which is pretty old. Which one has better AOSP/CM support? Will I be able to use the S-Pen/S4 features under a CM or AOSP rom?
Sorry about all the questions, I just want to know all of the facts before I buy anything. I would be buying unlocked/no contract from Canada.
Thanks in advance.
EDIT: Or the HTC Butterfly/Deluxe?
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I would go with Samsung Galaxy S4 you can draw on it as well from what I heard.
If you decided to go with the Note 2 its slower then Samsung Galaxy S4......

animeware said:
I would go with Samsung Galaxy S4 you can draw on it as well from what I heard.
If you decided to go with the Note 2 its slower then Samsung Galaxy S4......
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Can you use the S-pen on the S4?

theo1998 said:
Can you use the S-pen on the S4?
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You can use anything on the screen of the S4! - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEdLhRzGi-U

I don't believe you can use the S-Pen on the S4, but then again I don't think you really need to. Thanks to air view, any of your 10 fingers can function as an S-Pen. Some features will carry down to the Note II, but there will also be features that won't. I'm not sure what those are, but if I had to guess, dual recording might be one of them. As far as the octacore vs the Snapdrag600, it depends. The Snapdragon variant supports LTE, but the Exynos does not. However, the Exynos is a bit better as far as processing power, audio, and battery is concerned. If you live in an area with LTE, I'd personally go with the 600, otherwise you'd probably be better off with the Exynos.
The Galaxy S4 will have a superior CPU/GPU. I don't know how reliable this video is, but it's the quickest I could find:
Benchmark comparison: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Benchmark-comparison-Galaxy-S4-vs-Galaxy-S-III-vs-Note-2-vs-Optimus-G-Pro-vs-Nexus-4-vs-HTC-One_id41542
Spec comparison: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone2=5152
*Disclaimer: While both phones have 2GB RAM, the Galaxy S4 uses DDR3 while the Note II uses DDR2.

theo1998 said:
Can you use the S-pen on the S4?
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I don't think you can use the S-Pen on the S4, but if you want to use an S-Pen and don't mind waiting, you might want to wait for the Note 3.

FragJuice said:
I don't think you can use the S-Pen on the S4, but if you want to use an S-Pen and don't mind waiting, you might want to wait for the Note 3.
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Approximately how long until the Note 3 is announced, do you think?

theo1998 said:
Approximately how long until the Note 3 is announced, do you think?
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Probably 4-5 months.
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I've had the Note 1 and Note 2, and while the S-Pen is pretty cool and works wonderfully, I find myself never using it again after a few days with the phone. I have a Note 2 right now and can't wait for my S4 to get here! Better screen, better camera, better processor, better features...I definitely think it's worth the upgrade.

Maybe on 3Q of 2013, Because the note was announced September 2011 and the note 2 was announced august 2012.
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I too was wondering about S-Pen functionality, but I suspect that it's probably not compatible.
Only reason is sometimes I do like to write notes with the S-Pen, and it's still hard and inaccurate to write with fingers.

I'd get the GS4. Love the s-pen feature on my galaxy note. BUT the real trick is the next note rootable? If not I'd get the s4 since chainfire and the gang figured out a way on how to root the damn thing. Personally I'd wait for the note 3 since i love the big screen. If you need a phone in your case and need the spen get the note 2 used on ebay.

chery2k said:
I'd get the GS4. Love the s-pen feature on my galaxy note. BUT the real trick is the next note rootable? If not I'd get the s4 since chainfire and the gang figured out a way on how to root the damn thing. Personally I'd wait for the note 3 since i love the big screen. If you need a phone in your case and need the spen get the note 2 used on ebay.
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The Galaxy lineup will always be rootable.
Or any Android phone with unloacked bootloader for that matter.

chery2k said:
I'd get the GS4. Love the s-pen feature on my galaxy note. BUT the real trick is the next note rootable? If not I'd get the s4 since chainfire and the gang figured out a way on how to root the damn thing. Personally I'd wait for the note 3 since i love the big screen. If you need a phone in your case and need the spen get the note 2 used on ebay.
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That is no trick at all, galaxy s phones
have always been easily rootable. Why wouldn't it be with the note 3?

Note. 3 will have plastic oled says sammobile

Personally, absolutely note. Battery life, Screen size and S Pen - I could afford to miss the latter, but not the other two. I guess most Note II users would only upgrade with N3, since they'd have most likely bought it for those three aspects in the first place. In love with this damn phone.
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j510 said:
Note. 3 will have plastic oled says sammobile
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They say a lot of stuff, these "rumors" are hardly reliable. I'd be happy if that's the case though. Just hope they don't make it way too large and compromise on the battery life (if possible, add some extra mAh )

On a side note, the e300 will have octa with LTE.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6-a_sQbRSo
Damn, so airview doesn't work well with browsing then?

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[OFFTOPIC] Galaxy Note vs Galaxy S II LTE vs Galaxy S II

http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4124&idPhone2=3621
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4135&idPhone2=3621
What is your opinions about those new phones?
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why did they change the processor ?!?!!
aren't they slapping early adopters in the face with that move ?
or is it the same processor just overclocked to 1.5 ...
the phone came out about 4 months ago why bump the specs SO early....
anyways great phones, Samsung is really aiming high with these
look at the weight... galaxy s2 is still the lightest of them
maddada said:
why did they change the processor ?!?!!
aren't they slapping early adopters in the face with that move ?
or is it the same processor just overclocked to 1.5 ...
the phone came out about 4 months ago why bump the specs SO early....
anyways great phones, Samsung is really aiming high with these
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I'm guessing their going with Qualcomm because atm, their chip is the only one that supports LTE (at least in the US). Samsung might be working on an Exynos chip that can handle LTE but that hasn't been announced yet.
The Note is sporting a 1.4Ghz Exynos processor. Sexy beast w/ the Super Amoled HD screen! 5.3in. Screen, gorgeous!
jlevy73 said:
I'm guessing their going with Qualcomm because atm, their chip is the only one that supports LTE (at least in the US). Samsung might be working on an Exynos chip that can handle LTE but that hasn't been announced yet.
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I did read somewhere Note comes with Exynos chip clocked at 1.4 ghz and surely has LTE
http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxynote/note/spec.html
I mind says choose S II LTE while the heart says its got to be Note.
All three are the best in class smartphones. May be I could keep all three
I hope it will be a Galaxy S III
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Hmm, i don't feel like hitting the like button. My GS2 running at [email protected] with the official Samsung extended battery feels no envy at all
The soc is still the same afaik, this sounds like a cheap screen size buff to me. Anyway i'm pretty sure this will sell well in the US: it seems like people don't mind carrying a desktop pc in their pockets there
My galaxy s2 probably still in my pocket.
If Galaxy Note has stereo mic with noise reduction and can be installed voodoo control and it's super amoled hd plus i can sell my gs2 and buy it.
But i don't think it has all of them.. maybe none.
Hope for Nexus Prime...
The Samsung Note has me won over by the 2500 mah battery.
I'll keep my s2, not only because its new but more into my needs of the device.
Its a different things with an improvement from the 7 to 7'7gtab
Its an art of technology development
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As you undoubtedly know, samsung has said Note will not be released in the US
Sgs2 screen is big enough and I cant see development being anywhere near as big for the others. Android runs smooth as butter with the sgs2 anyways. Cant see any reason in the near future for an upgrade
How about having a Wolfson audio chip inside Galaxy Note !!! with 5.3 inch screen it looks gorgeous. Well my biggest question is SUPER AMOLED PLUS vs SUPER AMOLED HD. I am sure letters are more readable with 285 ppi on the HD screen but what about the colors are they as bright as PLUS on HD screen. I hope so.
With a Wolfson audio chip and Super saturated HD screen i would go for the Galaxy Note. I love big screen's.
intruda119 said:
The Samsung Note has me won over by the 2500 mah battery.
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Be aware that there'se an official 2000mah battery for the GS2: it's doesn't even add bulk, it just makes the phone all thick as it already is at its bottom. I got it today and it rocks. Too bad the phone doesn't fit anymore in the case now...
GSG2 LTE sounds good. I can't wait til its released. I hoping it works on ATT. Didn't get SGS2 but kind of glad now. We have LTE launched in Houston but i don't know how good it is. Anyways still going to try it out once released.
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all three size comparison
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLlciuWyj6k
Seriously,if Note is better anyway, I will probably wait for nexus Prime
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Im looking forward to NOTE, if i like it (and its size) when i take it in my hands, its very likely that ill give my SGS2 to my girl and take NOTE for me
dont forget the note has a higher resoloution and bigger screen to power and its also overclocked to 1.4ghz with probably quite high voltages
i would say you may get equal battery life out of the sgs2 with 2000mah battery and overclocking and undervolting
of course that only matters if you want the note for the battery i can see the appeal of the device it would make so many things even better like media viewing , web browsing , sat nav etc but at the same time it may be just to big for my pockets i would have to hold it before making that judgement though saying that i am happy with my sgs2 and dont see the point in upgrading , its just a sideways step there will be much better coming real soon and they will be forwards steps like quad core etc
i dont think with that screen the battery will be much different to the 2000mah genuine one that you can buy for the sgs2 this device will rock for people who want an even bigger sgs2 though good too see samsung covering all aspects of the market

Undecided on my next device

Now that the Note is coming to AT$T in a couple weeks, I've been doing some pretty serious window shopping. But, there's also the desire in the back of my head for the ever illusive S3. From those that have had the opportunity to use the Note, would you recommend the upgraded Note being released on the 19th or hold out S3 (with it's specs still in the rumor mill)?
My biggest draw to the Note is the fact that you can easily take notes right on it which is a plus for the office. One of my only worries is portability. Summers coming soon and the thought of carrying around a paperback novel (granted its only 40 pages thick) makes me nervous.
Please help sell me one way or another.
modmyphone said:
Now that the Note is coming to AT$T in a couple weeks, I've been doing some pretty serious window shopping. But, there's also the desire in the back of my head for the ever illusive S3. From those that have had the opportunity to use the Note, would you recommend the upgraded Note being released on the 19th or hold out S3 (with it's specs still in the rumor mill)?
My biggest draw to the Note is the fact that you can easily take notes right on it which is a plus for the office. One of my only worries is portability. Summers coming soon and the thought of carrying around a paperback novel (granted its only 40 pages thick) makes me nervous.
Please help sell me one way or another.
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Ok first of all let me tell you that the phone is not an issue carrying around unless you are a fashion concious person. The phone will fit into major pockets except skinny jeans or any tight fitting clothing but if you carry a bag out then it won't be an issue. Any ways I think you should wait to buy the phone unless your in need of a new one quick. If not wait till the s3 comes out and see if you like it then great get that or else get the note and since you waited the note probably dropped in price
As for my opinions on the note, first I think the specs are fabulous, its pretty good enough for a phone in the year 2012 and I think it's gonna rock the boat when ics comes out. Before I bought the phone I did a specs comparison to the iPad 2 ( you know since this phone is targeted as a tablet phone and best tablet is iPad in my opinion) and the note turns out is more superior to the iPad 2 and at that moment I decided the note is my phone. Overall its a more than decent phone only thing is you might need to buy a memory card if your thinking like videos and music and games, I just bought a 16 gig card off Amazon for like I think less than 20 bucks (its original) and while I couldn't transfer my apps to the sd card I did move all my videos photos and music to the sd card freeing a few gigs.
Any ways it comes down to the owner's needs, I wanted a tablet and phone and then I saw someone showing of his phone at the subway taking pictures and stuff then I asked him and found out about the note, let me say this is not a replacement of a tablet, its an alternative so there is a difference
With that I appologise for the long post and wish you have the most awesomest time and love your phone which ever one you get
#PHONESRKINDAHUMANS
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modmyphone said:
Now that the Note is coming to AT$T in a couple weeks, I've been doing some pretty serious window shopping. But, there's also the desire in the back of my head for the ever illusive S3. From those that have had the opportunity to use the Note, would you recommend the upgraded Note being released on the 19th or hold out S3 (with it's specs still in the rumor mill)?
My biggest draw to the Note is the fact that you can easily take notes right on it which is a plus for the office. One of my only worries is portability. Summers coming soon and the thought of carrying around a paperback novel (granted its only 40 pages thick) makes me nervous.
Please help sell me one way or another.
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The at&t Galaxy Note isnt a Galaxy Note. Its just a big skyrocket spec wise. Expect heavy choppiness and lag due to the weak snapdragon SoC.
I got my Intl Note about 3 months ago back when there was no news of the S3. I recommend waiting for the S3.
The S3 is most likely gonna feature the new 1.5ghz Exynos or a quad core Exynos.
Once the quad core phones come out you're gonna regret buying a dual core phone.
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xAnimal5 said:
The at&t Galaxy Note isnt a Galaxy Note. Its just a big skyrocket spec wise. Expect heavy choppiness and lag due to the weak snapdragon SoC.
I got my Intl Note about 3 months ago back when there was no news of the S3. I recommend waiting for the S3.
The S3 is most likely gonna feature the new 1.5ghz Exynos or a quad core Exynos.
Once the quad core phones come out you're gonna regret buying a dual core phone.
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I don't get this obsession with people wanting faster and faster processor, I mean I remeber a time when I was about 10 years old people would buy phones based on their looks or price and now every one just wants specs even if the phones are ugly. I'm not implying the phones now a days are ugly but I'm just saying what's up with wanting a faster processor I mean its just 0.1 more than the note how much faster is it gonna be. I think the current speed on the note is fabulous and I think this phone is perfect if I had one complain it would be the lack of space and the keyboard SUCKS. Other than that its an awesome phone
#DANOTERAWKS
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fabu09 said:
I don't get this obsession with people wanting faster and faster processor, I mean I remeber a time when I was about 10 years old people would buy phones based on their looks or price and now every one just wants specs even if the phones are ugly. I'm not implying the phones now a days are ugly but I'm just saying what's up with wanting a faster processor I mean its just 0.1 more than the note how much faster is it gonna be. I think the current speed on the note is fabulous and I think this phone is perfect if I had one complain it would be the lack of space and the keyboard SUCKS. Other than that its an awesome phone
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This.
The shift from single-core to dual-core is probably much larger than from dual-core to quad-core. This is because Android in general isn't even properly optimized for dual-core let alone quad-core. You'd probably need to wait for "Jellybean" again to get proper optimized changes that takes advantage of a quad-core SoC. What happens then? You're paying a premium price for the first "quad-core" phone that isn't even properly utilized until the next ANdroid update comes.
Never buy into bleeding tech, always get it around the 50 ~ 70% cycle mark. That's where you get the best longevity, utility, and price to performance ratio. =)
If you really like the idea of note taking, there's really no reason not to get a note.. Make a prototype out of cardboard if you want to check portability. It's bout twice a thick as cardboard.
Big screen, stylus - that's what you want. What would you trade that for, in the s3?
ChodTheWacko said:
If you really like the idea of note taking, there's really no reason not to get a note.. Make a prototype out of cardboard if you want to check portability. It's bout twice a thick as cardboard.
Big screen, stylus - that's what you want. What would you trade that for, in the s3?
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Something you cannot see, 2 additional cpu-cores.
I'm going to guess that the S3 is going to have a 4.65" display as well or at most 4.7". They're not going to cannibalize the Note for no apparent reason. On that grounds alone if screen size matters, it's pointless to wait for the S3. If anything, wait for the Note 2 in October.
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This.
The shift from single-core to dual-core is probably much larger than from dual-core to quad-core. This is because Android in general isn't even properly optimized for dual-core let alone quad-core. You'd probably need to wait for "Jellybean" again to get proper optimized changes that takes advantage of a quad-core SoC. What happens then? You're paying a premium price for the first "quad-core" phone that isn't even properly utilized until the next ANdroid update comes.
Never buy into bleeding tech, always get it around the 50 ~ 70% cycle mark. That's where you get the best longevity, utility, and price to performance ratio. =)
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+1 on that. Well said!
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As i think people and correct me if i am wrong, but the quadcores will not be quadcores but 2x dualcores on different speeds so you will have max battery from it with a improved speed. Lets say 2x500 and 2x1500(2000) the 2 high end cores will fire if they needed.
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All of the things a smart phone is used for is improved by a larger screen except portability, so the largest screen that is comfortably mobile is best. The Note is narrow enough to fit almost any pocket but is uncomfortable in trousers/jeans pockets and an alternative such as a deep shirt pocket or jacket pockets is needed. If you can live with that then get the Note for it will give you the best experience.
PoisonWolf said:
Something you cannot see, 2 additional cpu-cores.
I'm going to guess that the S3 is going to have a 4.65" display as well or at most 4.7". They're not going to cannibalize the Note for no apparent reason. On that grounds alone if screen size matters, it's pointless to wait for the S3. If anything, wait for the Note 2 in October.
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I think it's silly to suggest waiting nine months for the purpose of buying something with longevity. That's nearly half of a phone's lifecycle assuming you get a new phone every two years. This phone isn't even out in the US yet!
My advice: go buy your Note and enjoy it. There's no sense in waiting for a product that hasn't been announced, and something better is always around the corner. The best we can do is try to get something that's future-proof and enjoy it, and since the Note is one of the highest-end phones available today and Samsung has announced ICS for the it by the end of Q1, I think it's a smart choice.
Quick question, will the unlocked version of the gnote work on att's lte network?
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Thanks for everyones insight. I'm gonna go with the Note for a multitude of reasons. The quetion for about 39 seconds was n7000 or the I717. Exynos or snapdragon.....
Survey says......
I787. Sorry to burst some bubbles, but a 1.5 dual core snapdragon is not going to be noticeably inferior to the exynos. Plus, the snapdragons are compatible with the LTE network unlike the exynos chipset which gives the major advantage to the I787 in network speed.
fabu09 said:
I don't get this obsession with people wanting faster and faster processor
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If you watch/use flash content you absolutely need the power. My Note SMOKES my Transformer tablet with flash. The Note is silky smooth with no freezing while flash on the Transformer is a jerky freezing mess.
No way would I give up the Notes Exynos processor. It flies.
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Thanks for everyones insight. I'm gonna go with the Note for a multitude of reasons. The quetion for about 39 seconds was n7000 or the I717. Exynos or snapdragon.....
Survey says......
I787. Sorry to burst some bubbles, but a 1.5 dual core snapdragon is not going to be noticeably inferior to the exynos. Plus, the snapdragons are compatible with the LTE network unlike the exynos chipset which gives the major advantage to the I787 in network speed.
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I really urge you to reconsider. You're basically buying a big Skyrocket if you get that. Even if the speed difference is negligible to you, dev support will be way lower for a Snapdragon chip.
modmyphone said:
Thanks for everyones insight. I'm gonna go with the Note for a multitude of reasons. The quetion for about 39 seconds was n7000 or the I717. Exynos or snapdragon.....
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I787. Sorry to burst some bubbles, but a 1.5 dual core snapdragon is not going to be noticeably inferior to the exynos. Plus, the snapdragons are compatible with the LTE network unlike the exynos chipset which gives the major advantage to the I787 in network speed.
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Go read reviews from people who traded their OG SGSII's for Skyrockets.
I personally went to go check out the skyrocket on release day and there was so much lag compared to the OG SGSII model.
But, the snapdragon barely keeps the skyrocket running, the note is a lot bigger, so it requires more processor power, something that the snapdragon can't give
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Go read reviews from people who traded their OG SGSII's for Skyrockets.
I personally went to go check out the skyrocket on release day and there was so much lag compared to the OG SGSII model.
But, the snapdragon barely keeps the skyrocket running, the note is a lot bigger, so it requires more processor power, something that the snapdragon can't give
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I agree partially with this statement. I have both the Note and Skyrocket now and had the SGS2 as well.
In terms of day to day speed SGS2 > Skyrocket > Note
The Note isn't slow, but imagine the difference in pixels it's pushing. I can't imagine the ATT Note on that snapdragon (which in all reality is not that bad, just not an exynos)
I actually was lucky enough to be in the right spot at he right time today and place the AT&T Note in my hands. Was at my local company store today dropping off a freshly rooted and cleaned SGS2 to an aquatintance there and joking asked if he has a store unit yet. To my surprise he said "Yup" and walked over to a corporate guy who was there on business who happened to be carrying one.
Contrary to speculations...even in it's stock and bloated form, it was VERY responsive. I noticed next to no lag and can only imagine what the thing can do when overclocked. Every web page I went to, opened pretty much at desktop speeds and jumping from app to app was fluid and seemless.
Now am I gonna be listening to Pandora, watching Netflix, tethering 4 devices and setting up a Webex? Probably not. I actually have to work while at work and my daughter gets my home time. PDF's, business uses, and making calls.... that about sums it up these days.

Trade Note for GSIII...Should I?

A friend of mine just bought a GSIII (BNIB) because her Note's screen broke. She's been using it but doesn't get used to the screen, says that after the Note everything seems small. Since I have a Note, she offered to trade. I am seriously considering it, first and mostly because of how developer unfriendly the Note is. Suuree we have great ROMS and kernels, but that nasty EMMC bug is just nasty. Second reason is the awesome camera on the GS3. Third reason is the quad Exynos. Fourth reason, Jellybean<3 (i know we have CM10, but things would be much better with an official JB build around). But, are those things enough to sway me from the Note's gorgeous, humongous display, and the not-so-gimmicky-as-everyone-thinks S-Pen? What do you think?
If you really like your friend and she is desperate, sure why not. If you are talking purely on how it will benefit you, I wouldn't recommend it. I dunno how ROM crazy you are, but I see plenty of ROM development and you can get around the eMMC issue easily once you know how (just from what I've read). The camera on the GS3 is not "awesome" in comparison to the note. Most reviews state that the GS2/Note and the GS3 have almost identical cameras. It takes faster pictures, but that's about it. Even the BSI and bigger aperture don't improve night shots that drastically. Ditto for video. In fact, the GS2/Note has better audio capture, since it does not cut out lower frequencies. The GS3 has awful audio capture.
There's not a big difference between dual and quad core, and probably won't be for years to come. Same was true for PCs. Even now my quad-core setup isn't much better than my old Athlon x2. It takes a lot of effort to code for two cores, much less four. Once you get dual-core, which is mainly for smoothness while multitasking and going through the UI and doesn't affect individual app performance drastically since most apps are still single-core and splitting up the processes effectively is a monumental task, any extra cores have diminishing returns. Have you seen a comparison of The Gnex on a slowpoke 1.2ghz OMAP dual-core vs the GS3, both running JellyBean? There's a comparison on the pocketnow site. Jelly Bean will turn your dual-core into a quad-core, or in the case of the Tegra 3 One X running ICS, even faster than a quad-core. The speed of individual cores is more important than the number of cores if you are talking purely just speed when running apps.
If you were worried about the note not getting official JB, there's evidence that all the high end current samsung Androids are all getting JB eventually. Yeah too lazy to go link the posts on gsmarena/phonearena.
Other things to consider, is how cheap feeling the GS3 is compared to the note (if that bothers you), and of course like you said the stylus and giant screen size.
Imho note its the best phone ever created.. I'd only change my note for note 2
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Imho note its the best phone ever created.. I'd only change my note for note 2
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This.
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The Note has better build quality.
Note
- Larger screen
-Pen input
S3
-Much faster
-lighter
Decide on what u want
msedek said:
Imho note its the best phone ever created.. I'd only change my note for note 2
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Id tell her to return it and buy another note.
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aalupatti said:
Note
- Larger screen
-Pen input
S3
-Much faster
-lighter
Decide on what u want
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Much faster in Wich way?
Lighter feels cheap..
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msedek said:
Much faster in Wich way?
Lighter feels cheap..
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Some people just wont get it....
Galaxy Note @ mobile
TRADE IT!!
You will appreciate the Note II better when it arrives and the SGS 3 will be easier to sell and will still be current.
msedek said:
Imho note its the best phone ever created.. I'd only change my note for note 2
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Lol...same here...waiting for the note 2 to come out, so I don't think I would trade my note for anything atm
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Swap with her, then sell the g3, as you will get a lot more for it than the note, then either save the money and put towards a note 2, or buy another note plus some cash in your pocket. The s3 is just another smartphone the note is something else
I would wait for the note 2, especially with the rumors going on that it will be announced on the 15th of April.
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Swap with her, then sell the g3, as you will get a lot more for it than the note, then either save the money and put towards a note 2, or buy another note plus some cash in your pocket. The s3 is just another smartphone the note is something else
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Actually that's some good advice. I used to renew my contract with my phone company years ago for the best phone they'd give me for little (usually an iCrap), sell it, and just buy another phone or continue using the phone I had (I change phones frequently lol).
I'd personally take a look at both phones. the S3 form factor and size is actually something I'd like, but then again, I'd totally miss the size of the screen and the spen. I don't know about battery life and I don't know about the feel in the hand, I don't think it's cheap though. I like Samsung devices. I don't think you can go wrong with either.
Honestly, I'd probably get the S3 or the Note 2. Ask her if she can hold out on it for another few weeks because the Note 2 will be announced and you can see. I'm personally debating:
If the Note 2 comes out with more than a gig of ram and a better camera, then I'll go for the Note 2 ONLY if they don't make the size ANY BIGGER (dimension wise), it's already huge.
If the note 2 comes out with the same specs as the SGS3, with a pen and slightly higher resolution screen than the SGS3, then I'd probably get the S3. I've had the Note since December,and while I love it, I want to change devices soon! hehe.
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tbong777 said:
TRADE IT!!
You will appreciate the Note II better when it arrives and the SGS 3 will be easier to sell and will still be current.
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Yesssss s3 is so much better. I would.....
THUDUK said:
Swap with her, then sell the g3, as you will get a lot more for it than the note, then either save the money and put towards a note 2, or buy another note plus some cash in your pocket. The s3 is just another smartphone the note is something else
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That's wise advice: A financially sound decision which will actually earn you money. As soon as the Note2 hits the shops you will have to work hard to off-load your N1. Also, your friend is probably not a tech obsessed person so the advanced specs won't doe much for her: she just wants a Note
On another note (pun intended) If you're a tech nerd, the opportunity to try the Samsung flagship out for a couple of weeks should be a nice incentive.
I love my note, and yeah I'd only trade it for the Galaxy Note 2. But (if you're talking cheap) Samsung does feel cheap compared to HTC and (gasp) Motorola. I've owned these and difference in feel is certainly there. The OneX is so much sexier and well tougher feeling than the S3. Even the Desire HD with the plastic backing is quite sturdy.
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I recently had to send my phone of for repair after my wife stood on it and smashed the screen. I was asked by a mate if I'd get an S3 like him instead of my Note if they couldn't repair it and gave me cash instead (it is insured.)
No way I'd go smaller again. Half an inch doesn't sound like much but it can make hell of a difference (or so my wife says! )
It even annoyed me when I borrowed my mate's S3 to surf the internet.
IMHO there is only one good answer: Help your friend to sell the S3 for a good price. Help your friend to buy a nice used or even new NOTE.
Then you can keep your NOTE she can get her NOTE and she won't lose that much money.
You don't want to make profit on the shoulders of your friend, do you?

[Q] Note 2 or S IV?

Which would you go with? I have a few people who are due for upgrade and they're unsure whether to go with the Note 2 or the S IV for AT&T... What does everyone think? Pros and cons of both.
S4 = 1080P = decision over.
Your question should be S4 or wait for N3.
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The Galaxy S4 is just the better choice for me.
1. A lot more pocketable than the Note.
2. 1080p screen.
3. Pretty much anything can be used for screen input.(gloves, pencil, keys, screwdriver, etc...)
Those would be my big 3 reasons.
The display on the N2 is fine. It's achieves 1.073 arcminutes with "1" being the most the human eye can process at 12-15" away. Anything under 1 arcminute can't be resolved by the human eye. The SGS4 and One are probably about 0.66 arcminutes.
As for which to buy, unless you plan on using S Note/S Pen, the SGS4's a better choice. It's got newer more powerful h//w and a bunch of new features. A Note 3 is due out in fall and will have all the features of the SGS4 plus (if rumors are true) the Orb 360 camera, Octa/LTE with Qualcomm's new RF360 LTE radio that supports all 40 worldwide bands, and most likely a 5.9" display in the same size body as the N2. If you buy a SGS4 and take good care of it you should be able to get a decent price selling it as it should hold its value well. Then you can buy the N3 in the fall. I'm a heavy productivity user and won't buy a non-Note phone because of S Pen/S Note. But I think I'm like one of ten people that actually use those features and multiview.
cfn87 said:
S4 = 1080P = decision over.
Your question should be S4 or wait for N3.
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What he said. Although I wouldn't stop at 1080p = decision over, it's more than that.
but yeah at this point it's either S4 or wait for note 3.
i would go with s4 or wait for note 3
Baldilocks said:
The Galaxy S4 is just the better choice for me.
1. A lot more pocketable than the Note.
2. 1080p screen.
3. Pretty much anything can be used for screen input.(gloves, pencil, keys, screwdriver, etc...)
Those would be my big 3 reasons.
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Nice now i can finally put that ice pick i bought to use.
j510 said:
Nice now i can finally put that ice pick i bought to use.
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Looool
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But if you want more battery life (nearly all tests seem to proof that) and more daily usefull gimmicks (s-pen, multiscreen etc) then you should by a Note 2 for a lower price.
The size still matters
pikatchu said:
But if you want more battery life (nearly all tests seem to proof that) and more daily usefull gimmicks (s-pen, multiscreen etc) then you should by a Note 2 for a lower price.
The size still matters
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As said above ^^^^^^^^ I don't need no stinkin' daily gimmicks and always purchase a 2nd battery just in case so as not to worry n such.
It's already been said but:
1080p Screen - Awesome!, Especially with my eyes gettin' older....Lol
Android 4.2
13Mp Camera
More pocketable
Faster Processor
Can't wait - gonna hook it up when the time comes
glensta said:
I don't need no stinkin' daily gimmicks
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S Pen and S Note are far from "stinkin' daily gimmicks." The problem is too many people buy or consider the N2 for the wrong reasons. I use S Pen and S Note heavily (like at least a dozen times a day) and bought the N2 because of my experience with them on the Note 10.1. And you need a display the size of the N2 in order to be able to ink on it. Some people bought/buy it over the SGS3 for the larger/better display and others bought it for Exynos/LTE. But S Note/S Pen are meant to be the driving features. So I get people not wanting or needing those features but they aren't who Samsung made the N2 for in the first place. There's nothing like the Note-series for people that "get it;" for those that don't, move along, there's nothing to see here. And when the N3 comes out it’ll do more than the SGS4 and be Octa/LTE and a whole new cycle of people buying it for the wrong reasons will start again. And to your point, Nexi purists think every phone that’s not AOSP is a “stinkin’ daily gimmick.” To each their own.
I wondered the same thing for a while,
even though the S4 improves over pretty much everything on the Note II the S-pen and the size do matter.
I decided to go with the S4, but the Note II is isn't in any way a bad phone, maybe it's just everything you need and more
glensta said:
As said above ^^^^^^^^ I don't need no stinkin' daily gimmicks and always purchase a 2nd battery just in case so as not to worry n such.
It's already been said but:
1080p Screen - Awesome!, Especially with my eyes gettin' older....Lol
Android 4.2
13Mp Camera
More pocketable
Faster Processor
Can't wait - gonna hook it up when the time comes
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only 1080p ? More pixels please for your old eyes. :silly:
Android 4.2 will be on both available.
8 vs 13 MP Cam on smartphones is really nearly the same for me. Except S4 Panorama Software feature.
pocketable? yes this one is a countable difference :victory:
Faster processor? Games?=maybe in 1-2 years a handfull games will profit? standard usage? I run Android 4.2.2 with Dualcore processor on 1,3 GHz lagfree! ?So for what?
You should change the title to Note 3 or S4. N2 v S4 doesn't really make much sense as N2 is still a last gen phablet. I'll get S4 over N3 anytime because the notes are too big for me. And I don't really need s pen so S4 pretty much perfect for me
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Decision: Note 3 v. Galaxy S V

Hi all... I'm a long-time lurker, first-time poster. I want to thank you for all your help and analysis in smartphones.
I had a Galaxy S 4 for so long, and I'm stuck with the tough decision of choosing between a Note 3 or waiting a few more weeks for the SV.
I consider myself a power user, and I think the stylus is really cool. Do the new perks of the SV outweigh the features of the Note 3?
I'm a business professional, so the Note 3 does have that appeal--but I'm concerned that many people don't end up even using the stylus.
Your thoughts are appreciated. PS, I'm sorry if I've posted this in the wrong forum.
Shoot... I just read Jonny's sticky about questions... sorry mods. Please move this to the Q&A forum.
pgriffin said:
Hi all... I'm a long-time lurker, first-time poster. I want to thank you for all your help and analysis in smartphones.
I had a Galaxy S 4 for so long, and I'm stuck with the tough decision of choosing between a Note 3 or waiting a few more weeks for the SV.
I consider myself a power user, and I think the stylus is really cool. Do the new perks of the SV outweigh the features of the Note 3?
I'm a business professional, so the Note 3 does have that appeal--but I'm concerned that many people don't end up even using the stylus.
Your thoughts are appreciated. PS, I'm sorry if I've posted this in the wrong forum.
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I just came from getting my Note 3, I sold my Xperia Z1 to get this, I like this phone, looks cool, and is fluid but I need to root and put a custom rom, I hate the bloatware, also I want a few tweeks, the phone its great, for me it just need a few tweek, S5 is nothing from other world, I think that some guys here will port some stuff from S5 to Note3, so i will say go for the Note 3, its almost the same, note 3 has 3GBs of ram instead of 2.
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I just came from getting my Note 3, I sold my Xperia Z1 to get this, I like this phone, looks cool, and is fluid but I need to root and put a custom rom, I hate the bloatware, also I want a few tweeks, the phone its great, for me it just need a few tweek, S5 is nothing from other world, I think that some guys here will port some stuff from S5 to Note3, so i will say go for the Note 3, its almost the same, note 3 has 3GBs of ram instead of 2.
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Cool, thanks for your opinion. I agree that 3GB is better than 2GB. I wonder if the processor specs of the SV are that much better than the Note 3.
pgriffin said:
Hi all... I'm a long-time lurker, first-time poster. I want to thank you for all your help and analysis in smartphones.
I had a Galaxy S 4 for so long, and I'm stuck with the tough decision of choosing between a Note 3 or waiting a few more weeks for the SV.
I consider myself a power user, and I think the stylus is really cool. Do the new perks of the SV outweigh the features of the Note 3?
I'm a business professional, so the Note 3 does have that appeal--but I'm concerned that many people don't end up even using the stylus.
Your thoughts are appreciated. PS, I'm sorry if I've posted this in the wrong forum.
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Note 3 owns every other phone out there. 3gb RAM. Period.
S4 and S5 are jokes comparatively.
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Note 3 owns every other phone out there. 3gb RAM. Period.
S4 and S5 are jokes comparatively.
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Thanks, dude. I don't know about the S5 being a joke--it can definitely hold its own.
By the way, are you guys using the stylus?
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Thanks, dude. I don't know about the S5 being a joke--it can definitely hold its own.
By the way, are you guys using the stylus?
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Believe me when I say that Snapdragon 800 is enough, and 801 is just a variant with a few tweeks.
The USB 3.0 it is great, the phone charges faster and the baterry is great same as Z1.
And im not an artist and my handwriting sucks but I use it a few times, also the apps for the pen are cool, this is my first day with the note, the only thing I hate is knox, i want to root so bad.
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Believe me when I say that Snapdragon 800 is enough, and 801 is just a variant with a few tweeks.
The USB 3.0 it is great, the phone charges faster and the baterry is great same as Z1.
And im not an artist and my handwriting sucks but I use it a few times, also the apps for the pen are cool, this is my first day with the note, the only thing I hate is knox, i want to root so bad.
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Note 3. I've owned it for almost 5 months now.
Although I don't use the stylus a lot, the phone itself is very fluid. The only downside I see is its camera in low light conditions. I'm quite sure the S5 wont be that much of an improvement even though they say its heaps and bounds better than the s4, with how samsung does its business recently, I'm skeptical.
So yeah, 3 GB > 2 GB. Fingerprint scanner? Heartrate scanner? Slightly better camera. Nah, the functionalities of the stylus still is more beneficial than those things.
Also 33% increase in price for the S5 than note 3 doesnt appeal to me
I had the same dilemma,
I took Note 3 and I'm glad, perfect device for everyday office work, watching movies, for social networks etc.
updated my N3 to KitKat and need to say, that battery life on 4.3 was better but it might be my impression only,
but anyway: very good device,
The S5 is a lesser device compared to the Note 3.
It has less RAM, smaller screen, no Spen... The only thing it has is a fingerprint scanner and 3MP more in the camera.
As for the heartrate scanner, this one works on the Note 3 and the results match my pulse meter: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.runtastic.android.heartrate.lite
I wouldn't even consider the S5.
S5 is basically a smaller Note 3 with a slightly improved camera sensor and less ram. So size is really the biggest practical difference, since I don't think you'll have problems with 2GB ram.
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Note 3 is cheaper. And better. Did I mention that it's cheaper? And better? I don't think I said that it's cheaper and better yet.
Go for a note 3 I'd say. The s5 is really lackluster when it comes to features. The note 3 is the only phone next to the note 2 I've owned that allows me to not use my pc so much. It's an all in one media device that just works.
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Just close your eyes and buy note 3. I can guarantee you that you will have happy face. Also for the reasons you have mentioned, note series is for you. Stylus is really functional for those who know how it works
Once you move to note series, you probably won't ever go back to S series. Just one advice is that try to find on a cheaper price as you might have to move to note 4 later this year
The specs are better, and so is the price. The n9005 wins easily
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Note 3 pros:
-3GB RAM
-Higher storage options
-S Pen
-Bigger screen
S5 pros:
-Water and dust resistance.
-Better camera (heaps ahead according to some camera shots)
-Heart rate sensor and a fingerprint sensor
-Better UI (although this might come with an update or get ported)
-Faster processor (not by much but faster)
-Smaller screen but with better PPI
So, it really depends, look at the benefits of both models carefully and get what suits you more.
I got a Note 3 because I'm sticking to the Note line from now, my upgrade will be the Note 4.
Right now i have note 3- it is great phone but why is from plastic. I was paid over 500 pounds. Now after few moths start scratching. I was hope the next s5 will be from premium material but isn't and I disappointed. My new phone will be xperia z2 or HTC ONE M8. This is just my opinion.
sylwek23111 said:
Right now i have note 3- it is great phone but why is from plastic. I was paid over 500 pounds. Now after few moths start scratching. I was hope the next s5 will be from premium material but isn't and I disappointed. My new phone will be xperia z2 or HTC ONE M8. This is just my opinion.
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Because most metal bodies on phones cause problems. You can't replace the battery. They scratch and scuff way more than plastic. The money you paid was for what's inside, not what's outside.
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I highly recommend the note 3 over any other phone. The s5 is the best phone of "normal " proportions (alongside the nexus 5) but you won't get a phone that compares to the note 3 until the note 4 surfaces.
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