T-mobile customers with LTE - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So after discovering that our shiny devices indeed did have true LTE capabilities, many of us were eager to try it out. Some of you Canadians or T-mobile customers were lucky enough to be the first to access the LTE networks when they went online.
My question is directed more towards the Tmo customers, rather than international users as I am no familiar with any other county's rules or regulations.
Aren't you worried that if or when T-mobile finds out you are accessing their LTE network using this mysterious "illegal" device of yours you will get your device blacklisted? I sure would love it if they sent out some sort of warning Free T-mobile txt message or a courtesy phone call letting you know that you're a criminal, prior to the blacklist.
Has anyone encountered anything of this sort? Perhaps anyone have any information to share of this topic?
Also, anyone using only LTE throughout the day, how are the battery and signal?
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It is not illegal and im sure tmobile won't be able to do anything to stop it.

So the fact that N4s passed through the FCC without their LTE capability doesn't make the phone a bit taboo?
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Jeeeenx said:
So the fact that N4s passed through the FCC without their LTE capability doesn't make the phone a bit taboo?
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Nobody's sure whats the deal with n4s lte module. But its there and if you want u can use it. But you going to have to figure it out on your own or ask xda community.

I'm hoping to jump on the LTE wagon as soon as t-mobile lights up our city. I mean, to think NYC, most populated city in America, didn't get first dibs at an upgrade... This is an outrage!
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Jeeeenx said:
I'm hoping to jump on the LTE wagon as soon as t-mobile lights up our city. I mean, to think NYC, most populated city in America, didn't get first dibs at an upgrade... This is an outrage!
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That's cuz of they have exhausted the market there with 3g. They opened lte in markets where they have smaller base of customers but the ability to attract bigger one. I feel your pain as i am in Chicago.

You don't need a phone that's certified by T-Mobile themselves to run it on their network. T-Mobile is a cellular network provider, and has no say on what phones you can and can not use for LTE if you're paying for their service. They tell you the bands you can access with any device capable of connecting to them for a reason. This includes the Nexus 4. The Nexus 4 is 4G LTE capable, and supports T-Mobile's LTE tech. You can tell a rep. yourself that you got it working. They can't do anything about it. Its your phone and if anything, it would be illegal on their part to blacklist your device because you pay for the service, and you're not getting it in full with the device they have sold to you.
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b4d455b345t said:
You don't need a phone that's certified by T-Mobile themselves to run it on their network. T-Mobile is a cellular network provider, and has no say on what phones you can and can not use for LTE if you're paying for their service. They tell you the bands you can access with any device capable of connecting to them for a reason. This includes the Nexus 4. The Nexus 4 is 4G LTE capable, and supports T-Mobile's LTE tech. You can tell a rep. yourself that you got it working. They can't do anything about it. Its your phone and if anything, it would be illegal on their part to blacklist your device because you pay for the service, and you're not getting it in full with the device they have sold to you.
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If this in fact is the case, then is great news. Somehow I don't think it will settle just like that. Corporations want to sell & sell. Who's going to buy SGS4s or HTCs if we all have LTE in our phones and we are allowed to use it.
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T-mobile doesn't want you buying a new phone. They would love to have customers who bring their own phones and pay for their service. In fact that is the whole basis of their new contract free "un" carrier marketing campaign. If the Nexus 4 is capable of running on lte, although they won't provide tech support for it, there is no reason for them to proactively block it.

They don't make much off the devices they sell they make the money off the monthly contract.
Just like Comcast doesn't care what TV you have they just need you to pay that monthly bill.

T-Mobile or the FCC is not going to do a damn thing to the end users. If anyone that's going to get the pointed finger, that'll be Google.
LG and Google tried to hide the fact that the phone is LTE capable, but the OPEN SOURCE community, as gifted as they are, discovered that the device IS capable.
I also called T-Mobile pretending to be interested in buying a Note 2. I was trying to play off that I have T-Mobile's true un-throttled unlimited data currently and asked if I purchased the Note 2 if will be able to access the LTE network with no ramifications/fines/extra hidden fees and the representative said, yes, you will be able to use LTE with nothing effecting your current account.
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_says_why...able_of_running_on_lte_networks-news-5122.php
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^total horse****! I've been using LTE on my N4 since day one of the roll-out and my monthly bill hasn't changed a cent.

Thank you all for the input. You've clarified things for me quite a bit
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Nice! 4G coming to Canada, confirmed for Wind and Huwei

Wind Mobile successfully tests LTE and HD Voice
http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/02/03/wind-mobile-successfully-tests-lte-and-hd-voice/
that means even if we are on the 3G SNS, we can still gain the benefit of a faster network for Video chats
...oh they also rumored Rogers and Telus are planing to do the same
But the sns does not use Lte so would it still gain from the added speed of lte 4g?
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Only if they are still in business on 2 months.
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joerome said:
Only if they are still in business on 2 months.
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which party are you referring to?
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which party are you referring to?
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Wind Mobile
why would they not be?
they wouldn't be spending all the force to help the Canadian consumers, out of the sinister Rogers & Bell, if that was the case.
also they wouldn't spend on 4G upgrades, and get 4G ready cell phones
either way, they will continue to be in business in one way or another
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why would they not be?
they wouldn't be spending all the force to help the Canadian consumers, out of the sinister Rogers & Bell, if that was the case.
also they wouldn't spend on 4G upgrades, and get 4G ready cell phones
either way, they will continue to be in business in one way or another
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I hope so, the new guys are the ones briniging lower prices and unlimited to Canada if we lose one then the ladscape changes drastically. I'm the sure the government will do something, it is their mess to clean up now anyway.
that's exactly why the half government is giving them the green pass, yet the corrupt at CRTC wants to favor Bell + Rogers, basically they want Wind + MobilityCity out of the picture
they have no legal grounds against MobilityCity, because it's Canadian owned
anyways it's on the news, it's already announced that Wind will be on business as usual, as the gov already went ahead with the changes to allow small companies with less than 20% market share to operate in Canada even if it's foreign owned
it's all over Google news
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Do they throttle?
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Compares its to other throttled carriers and says it is unlimited does not mention throttling anywhere in the open on their website. Looks awesome plus amazing coverage.
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I wanna say it was 4GB but I think they changed it.
I believe it is actually 5GB of data that I had read on their site somewhere. It's listed.
If this worked where i live...
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If this worked where i live...
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This company piggybacks on Tmo's network.. as far as I know they do not have 4G or HSPDA coverage.. they operate on GSM and UMTS alone from the users I have spoken with. Seems like a decent way to go, especially if your in an urban area with good/great existing Tmo coverage.
*Maybe Tmo will allow them to also piggyback on the newly purchased 'Metro PCS' LTE.. *fingers crossed*:fingers-crossed:
Where i live only verizon and if i walk about 5 minutes back down the road us cellular works...
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My frustration towards CDMA

I just need to get this out of my system.
I own the Galaxy Nexus, unfortunately it is Sprint, so in other words, CDMA, this is terrible for me because according to Canonical there will be no official CDMA Support. Of course there has always been those amazing and wonderful developers that will try to port it but, a port is not the same thing as an official release, who knows how we'll get the Radios.
I almost cried when I heard the no support for CDMA, I was late and had already started looking into the Ubuntu SDK and reading guides and getting used to developing in Ubuntu.
I know many of you may say "Sprint sucks" or "Heh, that's what you get CDMA Newfag!" and that's pretty common because unfortunately many people find it necessary to insult people who own and probably prefer CDMA over GSM, even though it means more restrictions maybe it's the prices, unlimited Data, I don't know, so please don't make this a "CDMA sucks" thread.
I made this to demonstrate my frustration with CDMA, not Canonical, but CDMA, why? Well even if Canonical tried we all know they'd have some bad times, they would've had trouble with the carrier locks.
If you'd like to share useful non-flame opinions you may.
Honestly, CDMA networks like Verizon dominate the US because of their ties with Bell Atlantic and LTE coverage.
I personally think it's ridiculous that the most dominant US wireless carriers lock things down and monopolize like they do. Forcing customers to overpay for throttled and capped data, sign years of their life's hard earned money away in legally binding contracts, and they can't even give you decent customer support.
Google stopped making new Nexus devices for CDMA networks in the US because they know how immensely twisted they are. Canonical is smart to do the same thing.
Perhaps soon there will be better GSM coverage. Personally, I have a Google Play Galaxy Nexus on Straight Talk with unlimited everything for $45 a month. I'll never sell my soul to a CDMA crossroads demon again, haha.
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I have been using Sprint since 1999. I never worried about network technology in those days, but it just seems like there is no hope for any future where we have control of our devices without abandoning CDMA. We need to separate the devices from the carriers, and let the carriers compete on their networks, not on their marketing campaigns.
This is going to mean giving up the massive subsidy the carriers pay. But really, no one subsidized my car, or my laptop, or my shoes, and all of those are important too.
If we are all paying full cost for our phones, it's just going to be way cheaper to be in the global market for devices, rather than our little high-price, high subsidy, long-term contract subdivision.
Ugh.. I was hoping to port this to my phone, but I'm on Sprint, too. I hope someone figures out a way to port it to cdma phones.
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AFAIK CDMA only exists in USA, Japan and China. Let's live China out, cause China Telekom is pretty much all the choice you get. What about USA? If CDMA is bad, leave it. Go GSM. Vote with your money. Let corporations get a piece of your mind. IF people started to flee from Verizon maybe they would start rethinking their strategy (even if it took them years to implement anything)
As in most things in this world you can't have your cake and eat it too
The world uses GSM. Period. We can't take care of people who ride their special monocycle.
By the way China and Japan are two of the most technologically advanced economies in the world. CDMA is newer and more advanced then GSM. Verizon 4g phones are for better if you ask me because I can use Verizon or att or T-Mobile on my iPhone 5. I may not get 4g on the GSM networks but so what.
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CDMA sounds like the Betamax of network technology.
China most technologically advanced economy in the world. LOL
Who ever has to copy/steal stuff from the west is NOT technologically advanced.
blackout23 said:
CDMA sounds like the Betamax of network technology.
China most technologically advanced economy in the world. LOL
Who ever has to copy/steal stuff from the west is NOT technologically advanced.
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The first part of your statement is assinine.
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Honestly, CDMA networks like Verizon dominate the US because of their ties with Bell Atlantic and LTE coverage.
I personally think it's ridiculous that the most dominant US wireless carriers lock things down and monopolize like they do. Forcing customers to overpay for throttled and capped data, sign years of their life's hard earned money away in legally binding contracts, and they can't even give you decent customer support.
Google stopped making new Nexus devices for CDMA networks in the US because they know how immensely twisted they are. Canonical is smart to do the same thing.
Perhaps soon there will be better GSM coverage. Personally, I have a Google Play Galaxy Nexus on Straight Talk with unlimited everything for $45 a month. I'll never sell my soul to a CDMA crossroads demon again, haha.
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When my contract expires I was thinking of going to T-Mobile, or Straight Talk, it's pretty much almost the same thing though.
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The world uses GSM. Period. We can't take care of people who ride their special monocycle.
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Please, if you read my first post entirely you'd know that comments like those aren't needed.
So please stop.
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Your source may be wrong. The VGN is the most popular model out there and the only one with 4G. Ubuntu specifically started 4G support. Engadget did not say either way and I trust them. So why would they skip over the largest dev phone in the U.S. market? Answer: they wouldn't.
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Your source may be wrong. The VGN is the most popular model out there and the only one with 4G. Ubuntu specifically started 4G support. Engadget did not say either way and I trust them. So why would they skip over the largest dev phone in the U.S. market? Answer: they wouldn't.
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I think you're the one with the incorrect sources.
The VGN is not the only one with LTE and is not the most popular model. That would be the Play Store version.
Also Canonical stated no CDMA support.
Source:https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg00125.html
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The first part of your statement is assinine.
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Agreed. Not one intelligent comment in his post.
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AW: My frustration towards CDMA
The US. Is pretty much almost alone with "pure" CDMA...
Most of Europe uses GSM and so does China.. But the GSM networks all use W-CDMA for their UMTS systems ..
Source : http://www.diffen.com/difference/CDMA_vs_GSM
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I should have been a little clearer. In the US the most popular variant is VZW.
The email link there is just someone asking about it and forming there own opinion.
Nowhere on the Ubuntu site does it say only GSM. The actually specifically state LTE compatibility. And as VZW has the largest LTE network it only makes sense.
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jaed.43725 said:
I should have been a little clearer. In the US the most popular variant is VZW.
The email link there is just someone asking about it and forming there own opinion.
Nowhere on the Ubuntu site does it say only GSM. The actually specifically state LTE compatibility. And as VZW has the largest LTE network it only makes sense.
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It's an email to Canonical, and a response from Canonical.
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since we are on the topic of network technologies i just have a quick question:
Speaking in terms of LTE will Merica use the same sort of LTE technology as europe? Or are their LTE network somesort of "apple 4g" speeds?
Are they using the same frequenzieisiisifis?
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since we are on the topic of network technologies i just have a quick question:
Speaking in terms of LTE will Merica use the same sort of LTE technology as europe? Or are their LTE network somesort of "apple 4g" speeds?
Are they using the same frequenzieisiisifis?
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Not sure but something I gotta tell you is that in San Antonio TX LTE is overrated. No kidding. T-Mobile 4G speeds are exactly the same as Verizon 4G LTE speeds.
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Jimlarck said:
Not sure but something I gotta tell you is that in San Antonio TX LTE is overrated. No kidding. T-Mobile 4G speeds are exactly the same as Verizon 4G LTE speeds.
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Ditto in Seattle, where my T-Mobile HSPA+42 seriously beats the crap out of AT&T's "LTE" and is the same speed as Verizon's LTE.
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[Q] T-Mobile service and Nexus 4

I called T-Mobile to make sure that if I picked up a Nexus 4 from the Google Play store that they'd transfer my SIM to a microSIM for me so I could use it on their network, as it's sold unlocked. They told me that while this was technically possible, I may not get "4G" service because I "Didn't buy the phone from T-Mobile."
I told him it comes unlocked ready for AT&T or T-Mobile's networks, and he continued to insist that I probably wouldn't get HSPA+ access, but maybe I would, he didn't know. But if I didn't, there was nothing they could do.
I got the feeling it was just the T-Mobile guy trying to convince me that I should buy a Nexus 4 in their store for $500 instead on Play for $350, but I wanted to ask here - Have ANY of your Play-purchased Nexus 4's had any issue on T-Mobile? Or AT&T for that matter? I expect not, but I wanted to check with the experts.
Using mine now with no problem. They r just trying to make commission off u. Hack the nexus to get LTE
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Your feeling is right. I got mine from the play store it does work on 4g so save your cash and buy it contract free
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I'm using a Playstore N4 on T-Mobile with very good 4G speeds. If fact it gets better speeds than the T-Mobile H1 I tried for a week.
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That unscrupulous sales/customer rep was trying to "up-sell" you and was blowing smoke up your arse by trying to mis-inform you.
1) Google play store nexus 4 and T-mobiles are exactly the same in terms of hardware specs.
2) HSPA/+, Edge, 4G (in deployed markets) all work on nexus 4s.
3) Nothing special needed to activated a nexus 4 Tmo's network.
4) Most of the users on XDA know more about phones/services than most sales reps.
I question some of there tactics.
I signed up for T-Mobile service over the phone (got the Sim cards for free from a T-Mobile store) and there was zero mention of an activation fee. So I get my bill and there is $70 charge for 2 activations.
I called and told them I was never told there was an activation fee. The lady was like "oh well I see here there is credit, let me go ahead and apply that credit to waive the fees."
If I never questioned it, they would have pocketed $70. Def some shady stuff with them, but I can't complain, my bill is half that of Verizon and the service works fine for me.
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Can't wait for 4G LTE TMo to be released in New York, NY and then I'll do the LTE hack unless Google releases LTE back in the next OTA due to the Nexus 4 32GB LTE rumor.

Moto-X on Republic Wireless - $299

Isn't this an industry shocker: http://www.republicwireless.com/moto-x
With their $5, $10, $25 or $40 plans, it is hard to resist the Moto-X for $299.
FAQs: http://www.republicwireless.com/moto-x-faqs#improvements
Nexus IV
No way...
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Keep in mind that they will be selling the Sprint variant. This phone will not work on other networks as good as it does on any Sprint network provider. LTE will only work on Sprint. HSPA should work on other networks since they share the same frequencies, but whenever you don't have that, you need CDMA as fallback. End result is a really crappy coverage unless you live in a metro area with good Sprint HSPA.
Psilocin said:
Keep in mind that they will be selling the Sprint variant. This phone will not work on other networks as good as it does on any Sprint network provider. LTE will only work on Sprint. HSPA should work on other networks since they share the same frequencies, but whenever you don't have that, you need CDMA as fallback. End result is a really crappy coverage unless you live in a metro area with good Sprint HSPA.
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This.
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i'm still quite excited about this, sprint will have LTE in my area by the end of the year (so they say).
this seems like such a good deal, has anyone used republic wireless?
would sprint moto x roms work on this?
vonlupe said:
i'm still quite excited about this, sprint will have LTE in my area by the end of the year (so they say).
this seems like such a good deal, has anyone used republic wireless?
would sprint moto x roms work on this?
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I think you will have to check with RW. They have to install their special hybrid software to make this Wi-Fi calling to work. If you put a new ROM, the hybrid software may not be compatible. Check with them.
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I am skeptical. $299 is < 1/2 the price everyone else is chargin, plus they make next to no money on the service... so where are they making money?
Now maybe if UNICEF got into the cell phone business.... </JoeDirt>
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I am skeptical. $299 is < 1/2 the price everyone else is chargin, plus they make next to no money on the service... so where are they making money?
Now maybe if UNICEF got into the cell phone business.... </JoeDirt>
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We will find out in November.
Nexus IV
I'm curious if there's any way to flash this to use on ATT or T-Mobile. I'm sure it's locked either in the rom or elsewhere keeping it only on the sprint network though. Could anyone shine some light upon these chances?
Rarscaryfrosty said:
I'm curious if there's any way to flash this to use on ATT or T-Mobile. I'm sure it's locked either in the rom or elsewhere keeping it only on the sprint network though. Could anyone shine some light upon these chances?
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Republic Wireless rides on the Sprint network, so you're likely limited to Sprint. You could probably maybe put an ATT or T-Mo sim and get voice, and maybe HSPA+ on ATT like the Verizon X can, but I doubt T-Mo would be above EDGE speeds.
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I think you will have to check with RW. They have to install their special hybrid software to make this Wi-Fi calling to work. If you put a new ROM, the hybrid software may not be compatible. Check with them.
Nexus IV
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This. I was excited until you brought me back to reality.
While custom may not be an option as xposed becomes more powerful it may not matter.
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This. I was excited until you brought me back to reality.
While custom may not be an option as xposed becomes more powerful it may not matter.
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We will find out in a couple of months.
Nexus IV
So for people using Sprint would we be able to root, flash a sprint rom, and then be able to activate it on Sprint? I would love to get this phone without having to pay $600 or renewing my Sprint contract.
Infinity03 said:
So for people using Sprint would we be able to root, flash a sprint rom, and then be able to activate it on Sprint? I would love to get this phone without having to pay $600 or renewing my Sprint contract.
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The RW site says it will be contact free. Buying at RW and activating on Sprint may be possible. It is unknown for now. But that option would be great for people on Sprint.
EDIT: Sorry for the bad news. Sprint will not allow this Moto-X on their spectrum of the Network: http://liliputing.com/2013/09/cant-use-299-republic-wireless-moto-x-sprint.html
Nexus IV
Not to rain on people's parades, but Republic is not on the list to even have an unlockable bootloader.
https://motorola-global-portal.cust...sion/L3RpbWUvMTM3Nzc4MTE0OC9zaWQvekI2RTYteWw=
I would imagine that's also why it's so cheap.
So root is a maybe, but putting a different carrier's image on it is a pipe dream.
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Not to rain on people's parades, but Republic is not on the list to even have an unlockable bootloader.
https://motorola-global-portal.cust...sion/L3RpbWUvMTM3Nzc4MTE0OC9zaWQvekI2RTYteWw=
I would imagine that's also why it's so cheap.
So root is a maybe, but putting a different carrier's image on it is a pipe dream.
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I think that's illegal on CDMA devices anyways. Not sure. I also wonder if these Republic Wireless phones will have any resale value? $25-$40 per month is enticing though.
baiju2012 said:
The RW site says it will be contact free. Buying at RW and activating on Sprint may be possible. It is unknown for now. But that option would be great for people on Sprint.
EDIT: Sorry for the bad news. Sprint will not allow this Moto-X on their spectrum of the Network: http://liliputing.com/2013/09/cant-use-299-republic-wireless-moto-x-sprint.html
Nexus IV
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Why would you want to use this on sprint? Use it on RW and save like $30 a month....
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eallan said:
Why would you want to use this on sprint? Use it on RW and save like $30 a month....
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That would be a good point to argue. But one scenario can be that somebody is stuck in Sprint contract and have a sub par phone. In that case paying $299 for moto x is a steal. In any case, if the speeds on the $40 RW plan is similar to Sprint speeds, then RW plan is the clear choice.
Nexus IV
I'm currently paying a hair over $100 on Sprint a month right now for service plus insurance. I'm strongly considering paying the etf and going to RW
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baiju2012 said:
That would be a good point to argue. But one scenario can be that somebody is stuck in Sprint contract and have a sub par phone. In that case paying $299 for moto x is a steal. In any case, if the speeds on the $40 RW plan is similar to Sprint speeds, then RW plan is the clear choice.
Nexus IV
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It's LTE on Sprints network, i doubt it's different really.

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