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Would love to see some ROM's with SetCPU or Overclocking options. I heard the Droid could be overclocked. Wonder if Aria has a "Stable happy medium" that is around 800-1000mhz?
I don't think that It could be clocked at 1Ghz, more like 700Mhz. That just seems more likely.
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larry996 said:
Would love to see some ROM's with SetCPU or Overclocking options. I heard the Droid could be overclocked. Wonder if Aria has a "Stable happy medium" that is around 800-1000mhz?
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I would definitely enjoy 1Ghz on my little buddy. Sort of a mini Nexus
Has anyone even tried to overclock?
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Has anyone even tried to overclock?
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Never saw a stock kernel you could overclock. You could download setcpu and play with it. Maybe once we get some custom kernels it will work.
Not sure where the problem is with speed though - this thing is pretty zippy as it is.
Yea, it's pretty fast to me. I think the 600Mhz processor must be a different design than the old 528Mhz processor, because it seems to be much faster. I'm pretty satisfied as it is. Is there a certain app that is running too slow on your phone?
Yeah I agree that the processor Is great as is. I havent noticed any lag at all. even 3d games are running without lag for the most part. If it were overclocked the only difference I think that could be needed is performance with the gpu. Set cpu cant overclock the stock kernel but if we do get a custom kernel im sure we'd be able to overclock it.
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You can never have too much performance. I would love to be able to overclock.
Gpu wise we're fine as we have the same one as the Incredible and Evo, but our cpu is a bit weak. The Incredible and Evo, while they may not be any faster through the menus, are able to do things like loading web pages faster than us because of their faster cpu.
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You can never have too much performance. I would love to be able to overclock.
Gpu wise we're fine as we have the same one as the Incredible and Evo, but our cpu is a bit weak. The Incredible and Evo, while they may not be any faster through the menus, are able to do things like loading web pages faster than us because of their faster cpu.
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What makes you say the CPU is weak? I'm don't buy for a second that the CPU is a gating web page refresh speeds.
The CPU is not the same architecture as the old 528 mhz HTCs. The Aria does not need a 1 ghz Snapdragon to perform very well given the graphics requirement of the screen which has far less resolution to manage and requires far less from the both CPU and GPU, and given that this is a small smartphone, and not a game deck. You can't underestimate the difference in power required to drive a 480x800 compared to a 320x480 display. It's enormous for devices like these.
I am sure in time this device will be overclocked by some just because it can be, but the vast majority of us aren't worried about playing Warcraft on the Aria. People who want to do that aren't looking at the Aria is the first place, with it's 3.2" screen, which fits nicely wherever a portable phone might, but isn't going to make anyone go "oh wow, is that a flatscreen tv in your pocket or are you happy to see me?"
If you want to overclock yours, you are perfectly free to do so - once we get another kernel choice that supports it.
I think when you consider running Flash on your phone, there is NO such thing as too much performance.
When you consider full screen flash at 320x480 vs 480x800, the Aria can hold it's own against the larger Snapdragons. If the Aria has trouble with full screen flash, it's not because of the Aria, and it's not because the processor is weak.
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When you consider full screen flash at 320x480 vs 480x800, the Aria can hold it's own against the larger Snapdragons. If the Aria has trouble with full screen flash, it's not because of the Aria, and it's not because the processor is weak.
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I concede that you have a point.
we might need a kernal that support over 600mhz .
How did they overclock the driod? Is that kernel or setcpu?
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Using the kernel eljefe27 links and overclockwidget I was able to overclock to 806mhz and get a higher quadrant score. I'm running ATTN1's fr006 rom(froyo+sense.) All apps stable as far as I can tell and network functional. Under advanced settings the app can define its own possible overclock values for the CPU. I'm wondering if its missing higher clocks, as there is the option to set them manually. Im just scared to, lol.
Because I can't post outside links, the kernel can be found hya:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821933&highlight=overclock
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light24bulbs said:
Using the kernel eljefe27 links and overclockwidget I was able to overclock to 806mhz and get a higher quadrant score. I'm running ATTN1's fr006 rom(froyo+sense.) All apps stable as far as I can tell and network functional. Under advanced settings the app can define its own possible overclock values for the CPU. I'm wondering if its missing higher clocks, as there is the option to set them manually. Im just scared to, lol.
Because I can't post outside links, the kernel can be found hya:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821933&highlight=overclock
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Untrue. It may be unstable for you but not everyone. I'm currently running at 825mhz, was running at 844mhz.
Your mileage may vary.
I heard overclocking 33% over stock is a good benchmark for performance.
So I've been messing around with different roms and kernels for the past few weeks and finally settled on CM6 6.1.1, and the snap 7.6 bfs kernel, for stability and speed. I turned on the turbo mode with snap, OC'd to 1152mhz (freezes at 1192), killed all apps, and ran quadrant.
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I know thats pretty good, my scores average from 2100-2350, but I'm looking to make it even quicker. What can I do?
Thanks!
Move to gingerbread.
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Move to gingerbread.
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Which ROM and which kernel?
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Don't use Snap 7.6 on CM6.1.1, just use the stock kernel. The new kernel built in with CM6.1.1 is much better, Snap 7.6 is pretty old.
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I had 6.1.2 flashed, but snap wouldn't work on it and I was only benching around 1400 with the stock kernel.. Even with an OC
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Which ROM and which kernel?
I had 6.1.2 flashed, but snap wouldn't work on it and I was only benching around 1400 with the stock kernel.. Even with an OC
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Benchmark scores don't matter. I don't even check them anymore. Wether I get a 1400 or 2200 its still gonna dial a number at the same speed. Im not playing call of duty on my phone or anything. I want efficiency.
A benchmark does not actually show how fast your phone is....
Cyanogen himself stated this.
quadrant scores =/= to your phone being 'fast'.
But if you care about synthetic benchmarks then you could trick your file system into giving you quadrant scores in the 3000+ range.
by the way thanks for posting this in the relevant subsection of the evo forum dedicated to development this will absolutely further the development of android.
Yeah man, don't worry about benches. If you want to brag about how high it is just PhotoShop it. It's all about smoothness and real world performance/battery life for me. Just find what setup works best on your phone
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Lol okay then guys, so which gingerbread ROM and which kernel for the best efficiency and speed?
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Benchmark scores don't matter. I don't even check them anymore. Wether I get a 1400 or 2200 its still gonna dial a number at the same speed. Im not playing call of duty on my phone or anything. I want efficiency.
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I couldn't agree more, how instant can a phone get? Theres a point where speed wont be relevant anymore and its pretty damn close to it already. In my eyes efficiency is the future, doing more with less is something im looking forward to.
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Yeah man, don't worry about benches. If you want to brag about how high it is just PhotoShop it. It's all about smoothness and real world performance/battery life for me. Just find what setup works best on your phone
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**** man I'm sorry I'm new to this forum.
Mods: Please move to the correct section.
Thread moved to General.
Also keep in mind that the EVO's Snapdragon CPU was never a problem, it's still competitive even with the newer CPUs (with the exception of the upcoming A9's both single and especially dual core). Most of the "hacks" that raise the Quandrant score over 2000 are just that, hacks. They manipulate the other tests (non-CPU specific ones) to raise the score and make you think that you've just achieved some kind of new level of performance when in fact you'll see pretty much no difference.
Over clocking will help a little but like I said the problem isn't the CPU; a lot of the lag you may see on the EVO is because of the GPU. Nobody has figured out out how to overclock the GPU so over clocking the CPU will make no difference with the GPU. There have been some improvements in the drivers and if you're running CM or MIUI, you already have them. Gingerbread slightly improves some of the core graphics in Android so you'll see a boost over pre-Gingerbread Android but I think what we should all be waiting on is for the new Adreno 200 GPU drivers that Google will release when the OTA 2.3 update for the N1 drops. It wont magically make our EVO's into Nexus S' or anything but I wouldn't be surprised to see a noticeable boost in performance.
Oddly enough, I'd rather have the transition animations that come with some of the custom ROMs, even if they take longer. They provide a much more "fluid" experience. I don't like the jarring, speed-driven, animation-free transitions that come with stock ROMs, because they lack polish. As soon as I saw videos of those animations, I was in love. LOL. Seriously though, lag and lack of animations (which consequently actually help hide lag and load times) are the two things I see holding back the polish of Android. Just as an example (not trying start a flame war here, people), look at the animation when going from portrait to landscape in iOS. Then look at Android's lack thereof. THAT is what Android needs-to actually FEEL faster, not necessarily BE faster. So try something like that if you want the phone to feel more fluid instead of just achieving raw benchmark speed. Again, just my opinion (kind of sad that I feel the need to put that disclaimer in every post lately).
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Also keep in mind that the EVO's Snapdragon CPU was never a problem, it's still competitive even with the newer CPUs (with the exception of the upcoming A9's both single and especially dual core). Most of the "hacks" that raise the Quandrant score over 2000 are just that, hacks. They manipulate the other tests (non-CPU specific ones) to raise the score and make you think that you've just achieved some kind of new level of performance when in fact you'll see pretty much no difference.
Over clocking will help a little but like I said the problem isn't the CPU; a lot of the lag you may see on the EVO is because of the GPU. Nobody has figured out out how to overclock the GPU so over clocking the CPU will make no difference with the GPU. There have been some improvements in the drivers and if you're running CM or MIUI, you already have them. Gingerbread slightly improves some of the core graphics in Android so you'll see a boost over pre-Gingerbread Android but I think what we should all be waiting on is for the new Adreno 200 GPU drivers that Google will release when the OTA 2.3 update for the N1 drops. It wont magically make our EVO's into Nexus S' or anything but I wouldn't be surprised to see a noticeable boost in performance.
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that is interesting.. thanks for the info.
I hope it does open some more performance and maybe a way to overclock the GPU
Im not playing call of duty on my phone or anything. I want efficiency.[/QUOTE said:
Lmao
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Hey everyone...I tell ya, I sure am enjoying all these awesome custom roms and kernels. Great job to all the developers here, putting in the blood, sweat, and tears for the advancement of the community, thank you so much. One feature that I saw in a Xoom build was the GPU overclocked, and while I'm sure it won't interest everyone, and there is probably only little gain to be had from it, I would love to have the option to oc the CPU and the GPU for the highest performance possible...please. Well I think that covers it unless someone else shares my desire to see this feature. Thanks for all your work and consideration XDA and have a great day.
if ur CPU OC than GPU too
Apparently not so on the Motorola Xoom as there are two versions of Tiamat 1.4.4... with and without GPU OC. Tiamat 1.4.4 Full Throttle
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Apparently not so on the Motorola Xoom as there are two versions of Tiamat 1.4.4... with and without GPU OC. Tiamat 1.4.4 Full Throttle
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oc-ing the gpu doesnt get you anything... gpu is default 200mhz 2d with 300mhz in 3d and it can be uped to 250mhz 2d and 400mhz 3d but it cant be software controlled and it will eat more power...
and no oc-ing the cpu doesn't oc the gpu, its a separate part of the tegra2 processor
Hey Thor, thanks for joining the conversation. Based on what youve seen so far, how well are the tegra GPU cores being utilized? Suffice to say I've pulled off insane desktop GPU overclocks that showed almost nill gain with drivers that werent mature in which the GPU cores werent being loaded past 50% . I realize that the tegra is a horse of a different color, but isnt it still affected by the specific driver optimizations, hence the THD enhancements? Just out of curiosity as I very much trust your experience. I am still interested in trying it with definitive comparisons to follow...well about as definitive as synthetic benchmarks can be anyway.
I just saw that you have a new beta... Yay. I cant wait to give it a whirl.
I have been over locked for a little while. Max I have done is 1506 but it tends to be slightly unstable. I run 1400 now and haven't had any issues. biggest difference I notice is home screen transitions load fast and don't lag and programs load much quicker. there doesnt seem to be any games that will push the CPU hard so I don't notice much of a difference there.
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I have been over locked for a little while. Max I have done is 1506 but it tends to be slightly unstable. I run 1400 now and haven't had any issues. biggest difference I notice is home screen transitions load fast and don't lag and programs load much quicker. there doesnt seem to be any games that will push the CPU hard so I don't notice much of a difference there.
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I've had 1600mhz going strong with no instability, benchmark after benchmark, the only issue I've had is the device shutting down when left alone for too long, but I consider that a useful standard function. Otherwise 1600 performance has been rock solid. I decided to take it upon myself to take this girl apart' clean the CPU off, remove the thermal pad, and apply some as5....though the chip didnt really run very hot to begin with. Now until I have the option to go for 1800mhz, I'd like to see where the max threshold is for cpu/gpu oc.
I have mine overclocked also at 1600.. Runs very stable at this speed and benchmarks not too bad:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/20/device20110712225412.png/
I have had higher speeds, but very unstable...
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oc-ing the gpu doesnt get you anything... gpu is default 200mhz 2d with 300mhz in 3d and it can be uped to 250mhz 2d and 400mhz 3d but it cant be software controlled and it will eat more power...
and no oc-ing the cpu doesn't oc the gpu, its a separate part of the tegra2 processor
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Can only the 3D Clocks be altered without touching 2D? If yes can you make such a version of the ........... that "nobody" knows anything about?
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I have mine overclocked also at 1600.. Runs very stable at this speed and benchmarks not too bad:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/20/device20110712225412.png/
I have had higher speeds, but very unstable...
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Very nice quadrant score man, I used to score alot higher until I updated to stock 3.1+ updates. It seems like the higher my OS version number gets, the lower my synthetic performance gets overall.
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I've had 1600mhz going strong with no instability, benchmark after benchmark, the only issue I've had is the device shutting down when left alone for too long, but I consider that a useful standard function. Otherwise 1600 performance has been rock solid. I decided to take it upon myself to take this girl apart' clean the CPU off, remove the thermal pad, and apply some as5....though the chip didnt really run very hot to begin with. Now until I have the option to go for 1800mhz, I'd like to see where the max threshold is for cpu/gpu oc.
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that's what mine did. it would reboot while sleeping. sometimes it would be 3 or 4 times in an hour.
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I have mine overclocked also at 1600.. Runs very stable at this speed and benchmarks not too bad:
I have had higher speeds, but very unstable...
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Wow!
Umm, what rom do you guys run for this? I'm on rooted and CWMd stock 3.1 rom. Can't find a OC kernel for it. Only one I can find is for ASUS based roms. I prefer to keep stock rom if it's possible.
ME: Asus A500 Iconia USA wifi only. HC 3.1
nexgenasian said:
Wow!
Umm, what rom do you guys run for this? I'm on rooted and CWMd stock 3.1 rom. Can't find a OC kernel for it. Only one I can find is for ASUS based roms. I prefer to keep stock rom if it's possible.
ME: Asus A500 Iconia USA wifi only. HC 3.1
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You should try richardtrip's kernel. His kernel is keep updating Very good performance and stability.
thats the kernel i am using o/c 1400 works very well. you can find it in the development thread.
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You should try richardtrip's kernel. His kernel is keep updating Very good performance and stability.
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Thanks! Works great. Do you feel the HoneyVillian rom runs faster with the v2.4 Kernel or about the same as stock Acer 3.1 HC rom with v2.4 Kernel?
So far I can keep stable at 1.5 after 2 hours of use. It's also slept for 30 mins and seems ok at that too.
Also what kind of Scaling do you guys use? Ondeman, Interactive? On my phone I use ondemand.
After the release of Clemsyn's 1.6 GHz Kernel for CM7 based ROMs last night, I immediately switched to it just to see.
But before that I was running Faux123 1.3 GHz.
I'm keeping the Clemsyn kernel for now, simply because I can. My phone can run it with little difficulty thus far and I have a profile to lower the max freq when the CPU gets to a certain temperature. I think I went with about 65 Celsisus.
Before I switched back to CM7 (or rather Neutrino) I was using Wet Dream. I OCed to 1.45 then in attempt to compensate for only half decent webtop performance.
But now I really only do it because I can. Whenever possible, my phone is on the lapdock since I like to HDMI mirror. Battery is not a concern since the lapdock charges the phone and I pretty much always keep the lapdock charger on hand in my bag.
I just thought it would be an interesting subject for the community to discuss as I'm sure it's something that a number of us haven't even thought of and I bet a good number of us fall into the because I can or bragging rights category.
Specific instances of problems OCing helped with in x app or y app might make someone else want to OC whereas someone who doesn't OC might persuade a user like myself to drop it for amazing battery ETC.
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Why I DO OC.
Right now I have my Atrix OC'ed at 1.45. I'm currently running Alien ROM Build #4.
The CPU has never gotten past ~55ยบ C.
I also have 2 profiles set
1 for Screen off - 800 MHz max.
1 for Battery< 10% -216 MHz max.
This paired with Alien ROM and LP has left me with a buttery smooth experience.
Is the 1.6 OC kernel worth giving a shot? Or does it make the CPU run excessively hot?
EDIT: I didn't really address battery life. I don't notice a huge decrease in battery life, I'm a pretty heavy user- SMS, Web, Video streaming, Facebook, Twitter. Over all OC'ing is definitely worth it to me.
I like to keep mine overclocked because it seems snapier. I use faux 1.45 and its great. Ive noticed clem's likes to make my phone very hot when running video or games and has actually shut my phone down due to heat. If I run clems I like to drop the overclock with setcpu to around 1.3 so it doesnt shut down but seems to get way hotter than faux's. Anything over 1.5 is just going to cause damage to peoples phones and IMO it should not be used so lightly.
I'm OC'd to 1.45ghz I do it for performance and those random times I need to benchmark I want to try 1.5-6 but I can't seem to get them to boot with the ICS mod2 cm7 so till cm9 or neutrino ill just float about with what I have
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No need for 1.6 IMO.
1.3 is plenty for the Atrix. Even Faux 1.0 is fine. Its a phone, not a PC.
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I dunno...my webtop configuration may want to take exception to that statement
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I dunno...my webtop configuration may want to take exception to that statement
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i honestly haven't been able to really tell a difference between 1.0 and 1.3GHz in most of my applications. it definitely doesn't help with system slowdown due to live wallpapers, which is a disappointment.
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I dunno...my webtop configuration may want to take exception to that statement
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Haha, I was in that boat before I switched to HDMI mirroring coupled with VNC or Splashtop (when applicable) from experience, I can tell why Webtop users want OC. You can turn your phone into such a useful computer, and then it falls flat on its face because the inner-workings aren't streamlined. The extra power DOES help in that situation.
But in my actual experience, I haven't seen many realworld benefits past 1.2.
Especially since 1.6 kept eventually shutting down on me after about an hour (assuming there is the same issue as in Clemsyn 1.5, setting your max to a lower frequency than 1.6 won't stick so my temperature profile wouldn't actually work)
My "because I can" mindset is going to leave me stuck on 1.45 though most likely. I keep it maxed at 1.2(or is it 1.1? I'm not using the kernel right now) and then have a profile to ramp it up to 1.45 when it's on the charger (aka my lapdock)
I don't think it is quite the same for Blur based ROMs, but on CM7 1.0 seems perfectly adequate for the Atrix. Even at it's stock speed, it is snappy.
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I dont overclock. I used to be at 1.3ghz, but I didnt see a big enough difference to keep it. At least on CM7, the Atrix is plenty fast on stock speed.
I overclock, but I wait for thoroughly tested kernels before doing so. Right now I'm with faux's v023r @ 1.3 Ghz. I'll try Clemsyn's after its second or third "redesign" or bugfix.
I stick to optimal battery life kernels rather than performance (faux 123 0.2.3 being the one I'm currently on and most likely will be for the foreseeable future)
Also I can't imagine performance possibly getting any quicker or running programs any faster than they already are on the atrix.
Honestly, I never understood why people oc their phone, especially the Atrix. I mean the phone is already fast being that it is 1Ghz dual core. Plus from what I have seen, the Atrix overheats like crazy with the stock frequency so why would you want to increase that even more, so it explodes? I use my phone to mostly play 3D games and I have never encountered any lag or low fps whenever I play games.
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Honestly, I never understood why people oc their phone, especially the Atrix. I mean the phone is already fast being that it is 1Ghz dual core. Plus from what I have seen, the Atrix overheats like crazy with the stock frequency so why would you want to increase that even more, so it explodes? I use my phone to mostly play 3D games and I have never encountered any lag or low fps whenever I play games.
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The Atrix is plenty fast already. I can understand if you OC a HTC Magic, or a Hero; but there's no real need to do so on the Atrix.
Idk I see a difference on any launcher when I flip through pages and through apps. 1.3 or 1.45. But I def notice the difference in snappyness.
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95% of the time I overclock I do it for getting awesome benchmark scores that I can admire. 5% of the time I do it when playing 3D games like Fruit Ninja, It seems a lot smoother to me. But I hardly ever do it because it sucks the battery down so fast, so usually I'm at 1ghz. Also it's just kind of cool to see the the potential the phone has when overclocking.
i used faux's kernel to overclock to 1.3 for a few months but i didnt really see any difference except when i run quadrant or how my phone got hotter than stock when under load. another thing that annoyed me with faux's kernel was constantly losing widgets on reboot. i use two batteries so i reboot pretty often.
I used faux 23r 1.4GHz with setCPU profiles.
Profiles clamped speed to 1ghz at cpu temp of 50degc and 800mhz at 60degc.
Most noticeable difference was in k9 mail, indexing and searching were slightly improved.
I ran it so I would get a short boost if the cpu was cold.
Matthew
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Hey
On my old and feeble Hero I had to OC, if I wanted it to run fine, however I never felt the need to OC my Atrix. it has so much juice in it without OC, making it useless to squeeze the battery for the extra 0.2-0.5 GHz. Moreover, since we have no real ICS, our CPU runs freely and waste energy for nothing, so OC it will just make it run ever faster for nothing (In Hebrew there is a saying- running full throttle on neutral ).
I used to run Faux123 1.0Ghz kernel just to UV the device, but since I flashed weekly 6 I use the stock kernel, and it runs great, no overheating, and extremely stable (What cannot be said on UV kernels...)
The only time i oc is when using webtop, that extra speed makes a difference. The rest of the its running at 1ghz and seems plenty
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I'm getting pretty frustrated with my nexus 7 because I'm getting horribly low Quadrant scores. I tried messing around and putting custom kernels on it but when I compared the scores to the thread I was reading, I couldn't even get the stock scores mentioned in the thread with a overclocked custom kernel.
I'm getting a total of 3412 on my Nexus 7 on my stock kernel on the stock rooted/unlocked bootloader 4.2.1. I wiped the device, reinstalled the 4.2.1 stock backup, and then installed quadrant and ran it so there shouldn't be background processes problems. This pisses me off because on the Jay's Buttery Tweaks, he got 4875 on his stock kernel/stock ROM. Somethings wrong there. What would cause such a horrible score?
The first thing you need to know about quadrant scores is................they are decieving, and usually bloated. If your N7 preforms well during use, then your good. Also, if they were that important, all rom and kernel developers would post them with their releases. They dont for a reason.
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I'm getting pretty frustrated with my nexus 7 because I'm getting horribly low Quadrant scores. I tried messing around and putting custom kernels on it but when I compared the scores to the thread I was reading, I couldn't even get the stock scores mentioned in the thread with a overclocked custom kernel.
I'm getting a total of 3412 on my Nexus 7 on my stock kernel on the stock rooted/unlocked bootloader 4.2.1. I wiped the device, reinstalled the 4.2.1 stock backup, and then installed quadrant and ran it so there shouldn't be background processes problems. This pisses me off because on the Jay's Buttery Tweaks, he got 4875 on his stock kernel/stock ROM. Somethings wrong there. What would cause such a horrible score?
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Honestly, who cares? Is your nexus laggy? Are you having trouble doing what you want to do? If not then screw it, you're fine. Why is everyone obsessed with idiotic scores and benchmarks? The girls won't sleep with you cuz your Quadrant was over 9000!
Quadrant has never given the Tegra3 Chip really good scores for some reason? Almost all other benchmarking apps like Antutu, CFBench, Vellemo, Smart-bench, and many others will give 3 phones that I have, that are very close in specs a much closer comparison. I don't know why it is but Quadrant has never benched any of my Tegra3 devices high.
And was stated above go by how it feels in real life usage, is it snappy and smooth don't go specifically by benchmarks all the time they can sometimes give you an idea, but they are not tell you real world usage. For example my moms Samsung Transform Ultra with Android 2.3 and a 1GHz single-core Snapdragon is still really snappy. Its hard to believe that it is almost as fast as some of my quad core newer devices.
I got 2883 on my bone stock while playing the walking dead...
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Why do you care about benchmark scores? They really really don't matter. What matters is how it performs during usage. Nothing else. You can have awesome scores, yet have the device lag during normal use.
From a Nexus S bathing in Jelly Beans
Alright well that was with the motley kernel and I'm not sure what was up but it felt pretty smooth with the motley kernel but gave me those terrible scores. Performance in GTA3 was a decent amount better than stock.
Then I restored the stock rom and installed M kernel and trickster Mod and after that because the benchmarks were just pissing me off. Overclocked to 1.6Ghz and did some SD modifications and jesus christ everything is buttery smooth, fast loading, gta3 runs awesome, and I can get a like 6200 score in quadrant and 15397 on AnTuTu. Probably the fastest anrdoid device I've ever used.
I just confuses the crap out of me because I get pretty crappy graphics scores and changing the GPU clock and raising the GPU voltage doesn't change the GPU score on either benchmark.
Can someone tell me what the LP core is and why my GPU scores won't change?
I disagree, respectfully of course. Benchmarks like the Quadrant are useful standard tools to measure the performance of these devices. While they are not perfect, they point out potential weaknesses in our phones and tablets and whatnot.
Compared to stock Nexus 7, the iPad mini runs much more smoothly and yet is underpowered spec-wise. Still the mini puts up a better benchmark score than the superior N7.
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quadrant doesn't matter, but it can be useful for developers or just for the fun of it. first off, most people don't bench correctly. you want the CPU to be at the highest CPU speed at all times, quadrant doesn't put enough stress on the device to allow that, so the CPU will scale. if it scales, you don't know the actual CPU speed that its testing. you want to set the CPU speed at the highest speed, and you want to set the lowest CPU speed as the highest speed also. also, for higher scores, you'd need to disable fsync, and turn off tegra hot plug(and enable all four cores). sdcard tweaks wont help you, neither will jays buttery tweaks. also, overclocking the GPU wont help since we are limited in fps.
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jamesc760 said:
I disagree, respectfully of course. Benchmarks like the Quadrant are useful standard tools to measure the performance of these devices. While they are not perfect, they point out potential weaknesses in our phones and tablets and whatnot.
Compared to stock Nexus 7, the iPad mini runs much more smoothly and yet is underpowered spec-wise. Still the mini puts up a better benchmark score than the superior N7.
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where does the iPad mini show better benchmarks?
Well I've tried like 4 or 5 different kernels and m-kernel is the best. Only one that can score 15,000 on Antutu.
Can anyone riddle me why no matter what I change the gpu max frequency or voltages to, my 2d and 3d graphics are always the same?
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Well I've tried like 4 or 5 different kernels and m-kernel is the best. Only one that can score 15,000 on Antutu.
Can anyone riddle me why no matter what I change the gpu max frequency or voltages to, my 2d and 3d graphics are always the same?
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those benchmarks arent gpu benchmarks, especially quadrant. we are limited to 59/60 fps no matter what gpu you use. for gpu try basemark es2.0 taiji, gpu mark, or the windmill benchmark.
trinity kernel quadrant and antutu..
Jesus christ. Those are great results. What settings are you using? I installed trinity on a fresh restore of 4.2.1 and used Trickster Mod and System Tuner to set it to 1.7Ghz, performance, deadline, 1024 cache, zRAM enabled, fsync disabled, with stock voltages but I got barely over 5000.
I'm getting 6135 on the beefed up M-kernel. You get a decent amount higher in CPU, memory, and I/O, but your 2D score triples mine. 3D is the same.
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Jesus christ. Those are great results. What settings are you using? I installed trinity on a fresh restore of 4.2.1 and used Trickster Mod and System Tuner to set it to 1.7Ghz, performance, deadline, 1024 cache, zRAM enabled, fsync disabled, with stock voltages but I got barely over 5000.
I'm getting 6135 on the beefed up M-kernel. You get a decent amount higher in CPU, memory, and I/O, but your 2D score triples mine. 3D is the same.
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bench at 1700mhz high/1700mhz low. turn off tegra hotplug and enable all 4 cores(i dont know if trickster has that option, trinity kernel toolbox does), turn off fsync. trinity doent include zram, so you couldnt of used it. zram has nothing to do for performance anyways and doesnt help you with anything else. zram gives a little more ram for devices that are low ram to begin with. the n7 isnt low ram. plus, with zram, itll get slower after a few hours after bootup. i use ondemand/deadline btw. and, go into the devices main settings, developer options, and enable force gpu rendering. that raise your 2d score. i also bet that you are getting caught in the thermal throttle, which lowers your cpu speed when your device gets hot.
alright cool thanks for the info. I'll add in those settings minus the hotplug fix andsee what that does when I get.back. I know thermal throttling lowers scores. I've been doing tests recently on a bag of ice. the cpu stays plenty cool
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I'm getting pretty frustrated with my nexus 7 because I'm getting horribly low Quadrant scores. I tried messing around and putting custom kernels on it but when I compared the scores to the thread I was reading, I couldn't even get the stock scores mentioned in the thread with a overclocked custom kernel.
I'm getting a total of 3412 on my Nexus 7 on my stock kernel on the stock rooted/unlocked bootloader 4.2.1. I wiped the device, reinstalled the 4.2.1 stock backup, and then installed quadrant and ran it so there shouldn't be background processes problems. This pisses me off because on the Jay's Buttery Tweaks, he got 4875 on his stock kernel/stock ROM. Somethings wrong there. What would cause such a horrible score?
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WOW 3412 QS... Then if I show you this you will be pissed.
Full untouched Stock FL04 JB 4.1.2 SGSII E4GT. QS 4348
Quadrant Score are not important. If it performs well who cares about a QS.
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WOW 3412 QS... Then if I show you this you will be pissed.
Full untouched Stock FL04 JB 4.1.2 SGSII E4GT. QS 4348
Quadrant Score are not important. If it performs well who cares about a QS.
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Edited to delete comment as I was an idiot and did not read the above post fully before I opened my trap.
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jamesc760 said:
I disagree, respectfully of course. Benchmarks like the Quadrant are useful standard tools to measure the performance of these devices. While they are not perfect, they point out potential weaknesses in our phones and tablets and whatnot.
Compared to stock Nexus 7, the iPad mini runs much more smoothly and yet is underpowered spec-wise. Still the mini puts up a better benchmark score than the superior N7.
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I disagree with that. Just by clearing up RAM and turning off Processes that were not being used just sitting in RAM, maybe 30 or 40MB, waiting to be used my score went up over 200 points. If the benchmark was accurate then that would not have actually made any difference as it would have cleared out any unused processes itself before running.
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snowman4839 said:
Jesus christ. Those are great results. What settings are you using? I installed trinity on a fresh restore of 4.2.1 and used Trickster Mod and System Tuner to set it to 1.7Ghz, performance, deadline, 1024 cache, zRAM enabled, fsync disabled, with stock voltages but I got barely over 5000.
I'm getting 6135 on the beefed up M-kernel. You get a decent amount higher in CPU, memory, and I/O, but your 2D score triples mine. 3D is the same.
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Wow. Really? Ive gotten 5900 with just 1.4GHz, GPU 2d rendering and clearing out some RAM, fsync disabled running M-Kernel a23.