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/!\ BE AWARE OF YOUR APP, DavinciDevelopers try to steal them and sell them on the market !!
Hello guys,
Be careful, if you post an apk of your free app here, somebody will try to take the apk, remove the signature, and upload it as a paid version on the market !
The proofs : (edited to add new stolen softwares)
Llamadroid
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10113570#post10113570
- http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-kebab-llamadroid-zzjjD.aspx
(removed today, on 5th january)
Typo clock
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=814054
- http://www.appbrain.com/app/beautiful-clock-widget-3d/com.semicuda.typoclock
Iron soldiers
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=862875
- http://www.appbrain.com/app/iron-soldiers/vuxia.ironSoldiers
(removed from market today, on 5th january, but still referenced)
Championship racing 2010
- http://www.vividgames.com/sub_game.php?id=42
- http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-vividgames-championship_racing_2010-zzxwq.aspx
(removed today, on 5th january)
Liquid wallpaper
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=878252
http://www.appbrain.com/app/liquid-physics/livewallpaper.liquid
Bluetooth Scanner
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=900923
http://www.androidzoom.com/android_games/casual/bluetooth-scanner_pvqg.html
(New !! Now, we have proof that ALL his apps are stolen)
And even Gameloft best sellers (paid games) :
http://www.androlib.com/android.app...ndroid-gand-gloftspaw-heroofsparta-zjCDi.aspx
(removed from market today, on 5th january, but still referenced)
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-gameloft-android-gand-gloftavar-avatar-zjCEx.aspx
(removed from market today, on 5th january, but still referenced)
Minigore
http://minigore.blogspot.com/2009/07/what-minigore-is.html
http://www.appbrain.com/app/minigore-hd/com.ambushgames.minigore
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-ambushgames-minigore-zzjqD.aspx
Zuma's revenge
Original
http://www.zumasrevengegame.com/
http://store.steampowered.com/app/3620/
Scammers
http://www.appbrain.com/app/zumas-revenge-hd/com.popcap.zumas_revenge
http://www.appbrain.com/app/zumas-revenge/com.fox.game.zumasrevenge
How is it possible ?
Google does not check your apk signature when you upload a software.
Even if you signed yous apk with you key, somebody else can put this on his google account.
The signature can be deleted easily if needed.
He can change the title of your app, so nobody see it, but he can't change the apk name nor the icon.
Why do we post our apk here ?
To have testers, to correct bugs, to have a perfect look and feel before put it on the market.
Because on the market people are rude, we have only one chance, so we need to avoid bugs.
And when we put our app online, we want to choose if it's paid or free (with ads or not).
What is the problem ?
If DavinciDevelopers steal and upload your app, he will lock your pak name.
2 apps can't have the same name on the market.
You may have a name like com.myname.myapp.apk
Where "myname" is the same in every app you do.
If he take that, this is a major issue for you because you will be associated to him on every search (google.com, market...).
So, you will have to change your app name and maybe your company name....
Within 1 or 2 days, the market is parsed from androlib, androidzoom, appbrain... and it's done. Google.com will see those websites, and you are trapped.
You will have your buggy app on the market, some people will pay for that, the thief will have some money, and every users will have a bad opinion of your app.
Why DavinciDevelopers does this ?
To make benefit from your work.
Because he doesn't care you are working from a long time on your app.
Because he doesn't care if your work is ruined, he will find somebody else.
How can we be protected ?
Because 2 apps can't have the same name, you should put your app on the market first.
If your app is in development stage, you can upload it as "draft", so it will not be visible on the market, but the name will be locked.
Who is DavinciDevelopers ?
Somebody that have 83 apps on the market !
Almost all of them are themes.
If you look the package name you can see for example :
com.nd.android.pandatheme.p__3d_android_theme
at :
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-nd-android-pandatheme-p__3d_android_theme-qAmiz.aspx
google search : "pandatheme", first link :
http://home.pandaapp.com:888/
So he is not a developer. He makes themes with a free online tool and sell them... nice.
And for the real apps he uploaded (about 5), they all are stolen, coming from poland, germany, and other places.
Almost every of them comes from XDA dev forums.
ps : this message should be marked as sticky in every development section.
Is it worth marking all these apps as objectionable to draw Google's attention to this issue?
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Today, 2 of those links has been removed already !
Maybe somebody sent emails to every publishers...
I hope google will understand this and ban this thief.
I have posted about it on reddit
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/ew4e8/android_market_is_still_the_wild_west/?sort=hot
Someone who works for google replied and said they're looking into it.
@jgittins
Could you please link this post to you post ? Or give to the "google man" the list of the apps we found here ?
This kind of guy should be banned from google forever (if it's possible )
One thing I don't understand :
Google should give to every developer a private key that we could use to compile the apk.
Something we should not be able to remove.
So the developer who generates the apk could be sure it would be uploadable only into his account.
It sounds simple but...
thanaos2042 said:
@jgittins
Could you please link this post to you post ? Or give to the "google man" the list of the apps we found here ?
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I've linked to this thread from the reddit story.
Also, you have written that Zuma's Revenge is by Blue_sprit. But the real zuma's revenge is a famous game from popcap, I think blue_spirit is actually another scammer.
http://www.zumasrevengegame.com/
http://store.steampowered.com/app/3620/
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thanaos2042 said:
Google should give to every developer a private key that we could use to compile the apk.
Something we should not be able to remove.
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It's not possible to add something, that is impossible to remove. Cryptography makes possible to check that something was created by someone, but not that it wasn't.
Dang that sucks that people are ripping dev's off. I have high respect for Dev's. Not being one, I don't know all the ins and outs of developing apps but I'm sure it's a very deeply involved process that nobody should rip off. Jeez. I hope these idiots are banned from the market. Is there a formal process that someone can start to get these apps credited to their rightful owners?
Thank you for informing the community of this!
Thanks a lot! As a developer, this information I will be very useful.
This is absolute putrid behavior. This is one of the downsides to having an open-source OS and Google being so hands-off. There better be some justice in this matter......
PS - moderators/admins should require this to be a stickie in EVERY forum
I post it to tweeter.
This is disgusting.. I will make comments on all his posted apps in the market and warn people how this guy rips them off..
jhepoy said:
This is disgusting.. I will make comments on all his posted apps in the market and warn people how this guy rips them off..
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thats not going to stop many people if they want the app.....thats what sucks
TopShelf10 said:
thats not going to stop many people if they want the app.....thats what sucks
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if more of us from xda will post comments how douche this guy is, then maybe we could prevent others from patronizing his posted apps.. being a frustrated programmer also, I know how hard it is to code.. and I am very grateful to devs who gives us free apps over here at xda..
These davincidevelopers retards are also releasing retail gameloft games on the market, we need to stop these fuken retards, get them banned from the market.
What a penga ! We want to protect our community from the pirates, Thank you for the heads up,
Lets spam this Guy!! Anybody got his email??
Sent from the almighty Vibrant!!!
First of all I'm no trying to troll nor spam, I am a T-mobile G2x user and over at the G2x forums we started a thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360051 this thread is to get nvidia to release the source code for the tegra 2 chip, this way we can get more stable roms and yes fully functional ICS build.
I'm only doing this because the Atrix uses the same tegra 2 chip, thanks for your understanding.
I sent mine!
http://developer.nvidia.com/contact
Just to let you know, Nvidia is in no way required to release drivers for their SoC. That stuff is completely proprietary and doesn't fall under the GPL.
i sent mine!
Submitted!
Occupy ?
Dont think so, we're not pirates. I've sent an email to nvidia.
Hello,
Please release source code for the Tegra2, so the developers can support our mobile devices and tablets better and faster. I want to take more advantage of the Tegra2 chip inside my Motorola Atrix 4g and hoping that you could give the community a hand about this.
Regards, Sinan.
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edgeicator said:
Just to let you know, Nvidia is in no way required to release drivers for their SoC. That stuff is completely proprietary and doesn't fall under the GPL.
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We are all aware of this, but maybe with a shot of luck they decide to help developers, and release at least some code.
Even Microsoft has released some of their code to the GPL.
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Also submitted. Regardless of what may come out of this, at least we tried.
Submitted!
I don't want to hijack the other thread. But I think the best action you can take is generate some publicity from the media.
Go to Engadget. http://www.engadget.com/
There should be a red 'Tip US' on the right hand side of the webpage. Let the problem get on the main page of Engadget.
Thank you/
Email sent.
Email sent - also if anyone is wondering what to say, here is what i sent to them...may not be perfect but it gets the job done:
Hello. I am writing today to ask that you please release the source code for the Tegra 2 chip to the public.
As you most likely know, the android os has a very large developer community. With this community comes ground breaking software development and can also make an already great product become an even bigger product.
An example would be Samsung hiring the lead developer of the CyanogenMod7 custom Rom for Android.
They also gave the team one of their latest devices for further testing.
Now that device is one of the most sold Android phones of 2011.
The Tegra chip has a following already because of the little bit of development that we have been able to squeeze out of it with out the help of Nvidia. (source code)
But we believe and know that we can develop upon it even further and show Nvidia and others what the Tegra is really capable of. Which in turn will bring more interest to the chip and devices that carry the chip and that just means more sales.
It is only a win-win situation.
Thank you for reading.
Sincerely
a Nvidia customer.
you guys are asking for specific stuff in a very generic matter. nvidia has a git hub with tons of stuff already! and im sure if you ask them for ics tegra2 drivers for the atrix or g2x they will deliver.
as for nvidia helping devs, its happend!
sent mine
i did sent mine.
hope this count.
Sent it, couldn't copy the message though...
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Oh yea change the thread title to:
"Release the Tegra" Movement Thread [& how you can help] [Atrix]
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Then fix your post. Make it look professional so If any of the Nvidia Dev's see it, they'ed take it seriously...
Hey Guys,
I am a T-mobile G2x user and over at the G2x forums we started a thread, [ics2g2x] [occupy nvidia]how you can help!. This request thread is to get Nvidia to release the source code for the tegra 2 chip, this way we can get more stable roms and yes a fully functional ICS build.
You can help in multiple ways. It doesn't matter how you help, as long as you did that becomes a +1 support for this thread!
1. Call them at (408) 486-2000 and ask for developer relations.
2. Email them at http://developer.nvidia.com/contact. Make sure your info is accurate so that they'll accept it.
3. Advertise this thread at places like Engadget or some other well known information website.
4. Get creative do something that we haven't listed up here, anything counts... (As long as it's good)
I'm only doing this because the Atrix uses the same tegra 2 chip, thanks for your understanding.
Support Count:
1. cervantesjc
2. WiredPirate
3. edgeicator
4. picaron1
5. OSNPA
6. Semseddin
7. vinay427
8. cption
9. Jibraldor
10. J-Roc
11. hormosapiens
12. Alaq
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Copy and paste this into your post if you feel lazy. And update the Support Count every 1-2 days to keep this going.
I agree with changing the title in case anyone from nvidia see the thread.
however, I would leave any sort of "occupy" verbiage out. due to the recent media coverage of everything "occupy" related, it's not entirely a positive way to bring about change to what we want as far as code.
it seems a tad bit brutish to use that word to request something at this point.
imo.
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ifalldownalot said:
I agree with changing the title in case anyone from nvidia see the thread.
however, I would leave any sort of "occupy" verbiage out. due to the recent media coverage of everything "occupy" related, it's not entirely a positive way to bring about change to what we want as far as code.
it seems a tad bit brutish to use that word to request something at this point.
imo.
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Yea it might cause some problems.... Fixed:
"Release the Tegra" Movement Thread [& how you can help] [Atrix]
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Semseddin said:
we're not pirates.
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Speak for yourself lol.
Yeah, the thread title is a bad (polarizing) choice imho. I have enough trouble occupying my own space. And I certainly don't want to be seen in any sort of occupy movement. I work for what I have/want/need (and as an added bonus, to support the wants/needs of the occupiers, hurray for me!). But since the spirit of the thread isn't that sort of nonsense, I'm in. Message sent.
And no griping at me because I bit at the title... It was just sitting there staring at me with those "I want your stuff" and "Are you crazy? No I don't want to work for it" eyes...
Since I never do anything at work I will send them an email, spread this around, contact engadget, gizmodo, and more. I really want the ATRIX to become active. Its been dead around here a little.
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how to promote my android app for free???
I guess you can find many promotion methods after you install an app from Google Play.
Splash window,
Push notification,
App recommendation inside an app.
Corporate with other developers and promote apps for each other.
...
Well, at least the first three promotion methods can be found in most of the apps from Google Play.
But who knows more promotion methods?
You may install swably and share your apps in there, its community where dev and customer share thoughts about lots of app
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As previously stated, Swably is a free way to promote & share apps. That's probably your best bet.
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Post it here on XDA.
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for everyone
Thanks
for you
ariser said:
I guess you can find many promotion methods after you install an app from Google Play.
Splash window,
Push notification,
App recommendation inside an app.
Corporate with other developers and promote apps for each other.
...
Well, at least the first three promotion methods can be found in most of the apps from Google Play.
But who knows more promotion methods?
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thanks very much.
okmijnlp said:
As previously stated, Swably is a free way to promote & share apps. That's probably your best bet.
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Go.Bin said:
You may install swably and share your apps in there, its community where dev and customer share thoughts about lots of app
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This app on Google Play?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=goofy2.swably
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okmijnlp said:
As previously stated, Swably is a free way to promote & share apps. That's probably your best bet.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda app-developers app
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Oops, after I install this app from Google Play, I'm stuck in the Connect through a network page, and it gives me three options: Facebook, Twitter, Google+. However, if I choose Facebook, it takes long time to load and then gives me the message of "Connect to...timed out".
ariser said:
This app on Google Play?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=goofy2.swably
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Oops, after I install this app from Google Play, I'm stuck in the Connect through a network page, and it gives me three options: Facebook, Twitter, Google+. However, if I choose Facebook, it takes long time to load and then gives me the message of "Connect to...timed out".
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can you access Facebook on your phone?
subscribe to getjar and publish your app. or publish your app on Amazon appstore....
OR
Go To This Site and Publish [media.droidtweak. com / android-app-marketing] (Copy and paste it remove spaces, m a new user so i cant post outsider links, m jus trying to help, sorry moderators)
OR
Before you make any sort of promotional effort, you need to do the following:
1) Make sure you have a good rating. Get 10 friends to give you 5-stars. Nobody wants to download an unrated app (or even one with less than 5 ratings).
2) Add a video on the app store. It doesn't need to be pro, just something that gives a good indication of what your app does.
3) Make sure your screenshots are good and your description is accurate. The first sentence is the most important for describing what the app does.
After it's on the store (free version):
1) Post in forums
2) Submit it to review websites
3) Write up a press release (catchy headline, what your app does, why is it better - have a good angle) and send it to every news / tech / related website you can find. Who knows, 1 or 2 websites out of the 100s might write something about you, which can get you 100s of downloads. It's worth the hours it takes to do this. Also, use some Mail Merge software to make it personal (as simple as "Hi [name]").
4) Find influential twitter users that you think would use your app. Send them a message - dont harass them though. Be sincere. If they like it and they haven't tweeted about it, ask them to.
sam shaikh said:
subscribe to getjar and publish your app. or publish your app on Amazon appstore....
OR
Go To This Site and Publish [media.droidtweak. com / android-app-marketing] (Copy and paste it remove spaces, m a new user so i cant post outsider links, m jus trying to help, sorry moderators)
OR
Before you make any sort of promotional effort, you need to do the following:
1) Make sure you have a good rating. Get 10 friends to give you 5-stars. Nobody wants to download an unrated app (or even one with less than 5 ratings).
2) Add a video on the app store. It doesn't need to be pro, just something that gives a good indication of what your app does.
3) Make sure your screenshots are good and your description is accurate. The first sentence is the most important for describing what the app does.
After it's on the store (free version):
1) Post in forums
2) Submit it to review websites
3) Write up a press release (catchy headline, what your app does, why is it better - have a good angle) and send it to every news / tech / related website you can find. Who knows, 1 or 2 websites out of the 100s might write something about you, which can get you 100s of downloads. It's worth the hours it takes to do this. Also, use some Mail Merge software to make it personal (as simple as "Hi [name]").
4) Find influential twitter users that you think would use your app. Send them a message - dont harass them though. Be sincere. If they like it and they haven't tweeted about it, ask them to.
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nice advices, but the first link goes to paid reviews
New android app - need exposure
Hi everyone,
I'm a noob here (hopefully I'm not violating any rules) and was hoping to post one of my android apps here to help it gain some traction. My 11 year old son worked with me on this app, I would just like to keep him motivated by seeing some success.
Lately with the way the android market has become saturated, it has been very tough to get your app discovered.
I only do this as a hobby on the side. I have only developed games, they are all pretty simple games, no 3D or anything like that.
I recently released a dice game app (variation of Yahtzee), That I think some people would like.
It has some online challenge features with scoreloop, and an extra game mode.
My downloads to date are pretty poor, and was hoping to gain some exposure.
here is the link on the google play store:
play.google.com/store/ apps/details?id=com.anndconsulting.yahtzeecrag
I have a free (ad supported) and paid version released.
developer ID is ANND Consulting Games
Thanks for the help
Please let me know , if there is a better way of doing this, and I apologize in advance if I have violated and rules here.
When I was trying different methods to promote my app, I kinda noted it down. Here is brief about what I did:
http://obscurant1st.biz/blog/how-to-promote-android-app/
1. Never use push notifications aka push it to people's notification centers. People will perceive it as spam, and never download it. Ever.
2. Contact several Android news sites, and tip them that your *special* app is available. With special, i mean, really special. Don't even do it if it's a fart app or a stupid and useless app. You don't deserve the attention.
3. XDA. Publish it in the app section. People will find it and download it. People will use it if it's any good, or people will complain if it's ****; and you'll deserve it.
Bottom line: Build it, and they will come. Exploit the system in a bad way and you'll go nowhere. Don't piss people off with annoying ads.
From my very recent experience, getting a review on a major website with tons of viewers will get you a ton of attention. Websites like android police and android central have a ton of views per day.
My usual promotions were to post on forums. If you were lucky and people paid attention to your app, they'd download it. The more downloads you get, the higher chances of it showing up on Top New apps or just Top Apps. Once you get on that list, its when the app will finally take off. Its took 2.5 weeks for my live wallpaper to get to top 10 new paid live wallpapers and top 10 new free live wallpaper. The Top Paid live wallpaper is easy to get on as only a few purchases will qualify the app.
Anyway, back to my point about the review. My app was doing ok and there was a consistent downloads per day then it started to decline a little. But all of a sudden, my google wallets account exploded with purchases and my free version with admob banners, the requests and impressions exploded. I was shocked and had no idea what was going on. Then, a quick google of my app, revealed that android police decided to give my app a review. i was shocked. I never asked them to review it, so it was pretty much free publicity. If you look at the little graph on the right side of my app, you'll see how it was starting to decline, then all of a sudden, it shot up.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.qk.batterycorelwfree
Here's the review on my app.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...e-way-to-track-your-lithium-ion-expenditures/
Main points:
1. Post on forums
2. Get a review done.
Side note, I've never seen a good app not get downloads. All good apps will get tons of downloads.
LordManhattan said:
3. XDA. Publish it in the app section.
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Well, I've published my app in the app section, People loved it and found it useful, I updated frequently, But The app went in the last pages which I think no one checks,
True is there any really good way to promote app for free?
UpGado said:
Well, I've published my app in the app section, People loved it and found it useful, I updated frequently, But The app went in the last pages which I think no one checks,
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chengsokdara said:
True is there any really good way to promote app for free?
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There are lots of ways. Requesting a review for your app is one of the easiest ways.
I have started a free review service, You could consider requesting a free review from me!
Also see this link from my signature with lots of tips to promote our apps for free!
I can help promoting yours apps on the biggest Polish Android forum.
qkhang said:
Then, a quick google of my app, revealed that android police decided to give my app a review. i was shocked. I never asked them to review it, so it was pretty much free publicity.
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In other words: what you say about yourself, is advertising. What others say about you, it's public relations - much more effective way of promotion, but much much more complicated, too.
I have posted a new thread at Sony Mobile Support requesting they support 2011 devices with KitKat, as apparently they announced they will update 2012 devices to kitkat.
Or, if Sony will not support the 2011 devices as they are beyond 18 months old, they should release the sources and let the dev community go to town.
Here is the thread at Sony Mobile Support, I would like all users to just take two minutes and voice your feedback in encouraging Sony to either update our PLAY or better yet, release all sources so that devs may do updates such as KitKat 4.4 to our PLAY.
Sony Mobile Support Thread:
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...Xperia-devices-Xperia-PLAY/m-p/430889#U430889
Thank you and please show your support through the link above, I have informed Sony of this thread but if you all can please kindly post your comments on the thread above. If Sony doesnt see the comments of encouragement then they wont see it as worth it, in either way.
Edit - I am leaning towards Sony releasing sources as this will cost them nothing or a lot less then paying staff to make the 4.4 software upgrade and beta test it. Sources would be a lot more feasible, plus it would allow everyone to benefit with full access to our PLAY.
EDIT 2 - From Big_Smile, he made a very good suggestion to better our chances:
"Also, it would be a good idea to post your messages on Sundar Pichai's Google plus as he is the head of Google Android.
In order to use Android with Google services, manufactures have to follow certain rules that Google makes.
We should ask Sundar Pichai to compel manufacturers to release source files for older devices.
You can see my post asking him to do this here:
https://plus.google.com/+SundarPichai/posts/74nXKEeeMRx
(I've used my name Madhu Sharma).
If you agree, please +1 my comment but also post your own comment as well.
Unlike contacting Sony, this probably does have a good chance of becoming a reality if lots of people participate. Google do tend to listen and if it happened, they would make more money as more people would have access to their services.
Again, it only takes a few minutes to participate and this really could make a difference for everyone."
Thank you Big_Smile.
I forgot to add a Poll for this thread, any chance to still add it? I dont see it as an option.. after I made the first post.
Edit - Got the POLL Running
One more thing:
If everyone can select to vote to have this thread detailed on XDA Portal to gain attention that would great. See attached photo if you are unsure how to vote this thread on XDA Portal.
I have contributed to the thread. I don't think it will do anything, but I think everyone should try.
It only takes a second (and you can login in with Gmail and Facebook, so you don't even need to set up an account).
You never know, if Sony gets a lot of requests, they will take action.
Also, post your message here as well:
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/support/contact-us/contact-form/Other/en_GB/
Again, it probably won't do anything but it is worth a try and will only take a minute. Companies like Sony are always trying to find ways to show that they listen (as it earns them good publicity).
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Also, it would be a good idea to post your messages on Sundar Pichai's Google plus as he is the head of Google Android.
In order to use Android with Google services, manufactures have to follow certain rules that Google makes.
We should ask Sundar Pichai to compel manufacturers to release source files for older devices.
You can see my post asking him to do this here:
https://plus.google.com/116651741222993143554/posts/74nXKEeeMRx
(I've used my name Madhu Sharma).
If you agree, please +1 my comment but also post your own comment as well.
Unlike contacting Sony, this probably does have a good chance of becoming a reality if lots of people participate. Google do tend to listen and if it happened, they would make more money as more people would have access to their services.
Again, it only takes a few minutes to participate and this really could make a difference for everyone.
i doubt they will support it they wont support my xperia t which is 1.5ghz snapdragon s4 and 1gb of ram. this was their last 2012 flagship so they won't update any 2012 devices probably only 2013
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At Big_Smile, that is an excellent idea and would stand a better chance then contacting Sony head on. I will add your suggestion to post 1 soon as I have a chance
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Per Big_Smile's link to Sundar Pichai, I have added the following to his, please see attached.
Link to:
https://plus.google.com/+SundarPichai/posts/74nXKEeeMRx
Edit - Added this thread to my Google+ post reply to Big_Smile.
I think another good idea would to be raise this issue on "This Week in Google" (TWiG).
TWiG is a podcast about Google & Android, that is often viewed by people who work at Google.
I have made a post on the TWiG Google Plus Community:
https://plus.google.com/115434784269286841659/posts/4GQVrDtLhTV
If you agree with what I have written, please +1 it and add your own comments and ideas.
I think if the post got around 50 - 100 +1s, there's a good chance someone from the show might notice it and so might consider discuss it on the next episode.
Again, it's a long shot, but it would only take a few minutes to contribute and it could stand a good chance of making 4.4 available for not just the Xperia Play, but many other older phones. As I've discussed in my Plus post, this could help a lot of people (and not just Play users).
Unlike other companies, Google does listen, so if we raise this issue in lots of places, there's a good chance that they might act on it.
good ! waiting for ur news
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I want ask all people, that want to post SUBJ request without stupid words to update firmwares for phones. Just ask to open ALL sources, so community can do all work.
I'm all for the sources but telling them to update a very outdated phone is a little much.
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JunDavis said:
I'm all for the sources but telling them to update a very outdated phone is a little much.
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Hence thatz why I am hoping for sources.
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Do you think we should start a petition on change.org @OP?
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Why ya keep asking for upgrade? IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN. Understand this already. Only thing, that *may* hapeen - opening sources of GB drivrs. Thats enough for communities of all old phones, so all people must focus on it, not on asking for upgrade, that, as said, WILL NEVER HAPPEN.
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Why ya keep asking for upgrade? IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN. Understand this already. Only thing, that *may* hapeen - opening sources of GB drivrs. Thats enough for communities of all old phones, so all people must focus on it, not on asking for upgrade, that, as said, WILL NEVER HAPPEN.
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Y u gotta be so negative? You never know
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This is sony we are talking about who are the second worst manufacturer to give updates (lg is worst) they probably won't update their 2012 devices so what makes you think they will update the play.
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There's nothing wrong with trying. YOU'LL NEVER KNOW THE ANSWER UNLESS YOU TRY. So all of you negas, go somewhere else. You're of no use here.
Just like sony wouldn't give ics to the play yet everyone asked for it
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There's nothing wrong with trying. YOU'LL NEVER KNOW THE ANSWER UNLESS YOU TRY. So all of you negas, go somewhere else. You're of no use here.
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We are not negative, we are only realistic, it is absurd to think that a company will release an update (LOL) or the source code (double LOL) for a device of 2 years ago, it is against their interest.
BTW don't worry, probably I will go away, if I earn sufficient money to change both my laptop and the phone I will go away from the xplay this Christmas, if not sorry but this nega will remain for another year
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Even if they are unlikely to listen, it only takes 2 minutes max to ask them, so it's worth a try. Anyone can spare 2 minutes.
Also, I think the best strategy is to ask Google to force manufacturers to release source code, as they have a financial incentive to do so (as it will further their interests of making Android less fragmented, easier to develop for and making the latest Google Play apps available to all).
I've seen a few references to it being released on the Nvidia forums.
Has anyone gotten it yet? Any possibility you could zip it and post it for those who haven't?
nope not in the uk yet
5.2 ST update will come in upcoming weeks. Being tested as developer preview atm. ?
Oh great ! The support for Nvidia shield is amazing.
What forum have you seen this on?
Hmn.... Not to be a mean sport for everyone but this shouldn't even be announced yet since it's a preview version and there's an NDA for members. So even download links and other related info shouldn't be discussed or exposed.
I inquired similarly for preview 1/update 5.0 (wasn't a member back then) and I got a good ethical spanking from the senior members here. Something about XDA integrity and stuff. Took me some time to get it.
Just know that Nvidia developers are really working hard to keep this amazing device alive and operate competitively with latest flagships. If the NDA gets massively and openly broken, we might all suffer coz they can decide NOT to support this device any further. :/
In the GeForce forums, the developers are actively taking our suggestions, complaints and wish lists for Shield Tablet seriously. So let's just keep it up.
You could try following the link given by an nvidia representative here:
https://forums.geforce.com/default/...ge-battery-drain-after-android-7-0-update-/6/
Fill out the form on the link, reference battery charging problems. You should get the preview pushed.
Not such a big secret if nvidia is telling people....
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Exile1975 said:
You could try following the link given by an nvidia representative here:
https://forums.geforce.com/default/...ge-battery-drain-after-android-7-0-update-/6/
Fill out the form on the link, reference battery charging problems. You should get the preview pushed.
Not such a big secret if nvidia is telling people....
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From the EMAIL:
"The public release version of the SHIELD Tablet Software Upgrade 5.2 may contain additional enhancements not available in the preview. We’d like to remind you that this preview software is confidential NVIDIA information. Please DON'T publicly share information about this early access software (via forums, blogs, screen shots, tweets, discussions with others, etc.). Your system will automatically be updated to the public release version when it becomes available."
it is open since everyone is invited to join
It becomes a "secret" once you've been approved and you're in
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From the EMAIL:
"The public release version of the SHIELD Tablet Software Upgrade 5.2 may contain additional enhancements not available in the preview. We’d like to remind you that this preview software is confidential NVIDIA information. Please DON'T publicly share information about this early access software (via forums, blogs, screen shots, tweets, discussions with others, etc.). Your system will automatically be updated to the public release version when it becomes available."
it is open since everyone is invited to join
It becomes a "secret" once you've been approved and you're in
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Good thing I never signed up then. However, didn't you just violate your part of the deal?
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Exile1975 said:
You could try following the link given by an nvidia representative here:
https://forums.geforce.com/default/...ge-battery-drain-after-android-7-0-update-/6/
Fill out the form on the link, reference battery charging problems. You should get the preview pushed.
Not such a big secret if nvidia is telling people....
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Exile1975 said:
Good thing I never signed up then. However, didn't you just violate your part of the deal?
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Maybe. But I'm sure the admins (here and at Nvidia) are smart enough to distinguish intentions throughout this thread.
This reminder is a response to the OP. I wish everyone can have access. I really do (esp when you're frustrated with the current build). But the developers have their own process that I thought needed some respect. I'm actually grateful that they still bother updating this 3 year old device.
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Maybe. But I'm sure the admins (here and at Nvidia) are smart enough to distinguish intentions throughout this thread.
This reminder is a response to the OP. I wish everyone can have access. I really do (esp when you're frustrated with the current build). But the developers have their own process that I thought needed some respect. I'm actually grateful that they still bother updating this 3 year old device.
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The point of my post is that nvidia made this a public beta as soon as the Nvidia representative on their forum made the comment I linked. My only intention is to help spread information that is publicly available. Now please get off your high horse, and my a$$, until an XDA moderator has a problem with what I've said.
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The point of my post is that nvidia made this a public beta as soon as the Nvidia representative on their forum made the comment I linked. My only intention is to help spread information that is publicly available. Now please get off your high horse, and my a$$, until an XDA moderator has a problem with what I've said.
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Know what - I feel the same! And here I thought someone is trying to be a smart ass by dropping the bomb first and needed some intellectual response.
Enough trolling. Seems we both overlooked each other's intention and might have rubbed off some ego the wrong way. For that I apologize.
You cool?
Son-j said:
Know what - I feel the same! And here I thought someone is trying to be a smart ass by dropping the bomb first and needed some intellectual response.
Enough trolling. Seems we both overlooked each other's intention and might have rubbed off some ego the wrong way. For that I apologize.
You cool?
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I do apologise for my antagonism. I really was just trying to help originally. I notice the 5.2 preview 2 post on Nvidia forums early last week. Seeing as I don't have any problems with my current install I felt no need to update myself, but if it will help someone who might be having problems I thought I'd share.
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Exile1975 said:
I do apologise for my antagonism. I really was just trying to help originally. I notice the 5.2 preview 2 post on Nvidia forums early last week. Seeing as I don't have any problems with my current install I felt no need to update myself, but if it will help someone who might be having problems I thought I'd share.
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I got that. Cool!
skooter32 said:
What forum have you seen this on?
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GeForce Forums, in several posts. It's not a secret. A Nvidia employee even issued an open invitation for anyone having charging issues to sign up for the preview.
Never mind 5.2 update are we getting Android O
MrKaon said:
Never mind 5.2 update are we getting Android O
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Won't be any word on that till O is out and by then I doubt it
Just received 5.2 update with april security patch. Here are the screenshots in French and English :
Dhalsim43 said:
Just received 5.2 update with april security patch. Here are the screenshots in French and English :
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Preview build or normal update? Did u subscribed to the preview?
What's the changelog