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Somebody PLEASE tell me the audio from these two new devices is better than its predecessor?
Sure you don't really listen to music on the phone but when catching up on the latest news and watching streaming video it's nice not to have to use the headphones.
One of the biggest let down's for me with the Desire is the diabolical sound quality, so I wonder if this has been improved with the Desire Z (and HD but I am more interested in the Z).
Anyone had a hands on and can confirm / deny?
Offtopic : but i can watch videos & listen to music just fine with my desire's speakers :O
Or maybe it's just me? hmm.
Here's a little hands on review that quotes of the sound of the speaker. Though I dont know if it means anything.
"The speaker sounds loud and clear, although not that distinctive in the hubbub of a busy room... but then again, when are you going to use it in that environment, unless you want to be glared at on a train? That's right, glared.
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The D'HD has dolby sound which should be Ace (Pun intended) :d
Svala88 said:
Offtopic : but i can watch videos & listen to music just fine with my desire's speakers :O
Or maybe it's just me? hmm.
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I can only assume you haven't heard the sound from a Nokia 5800? It's my current phone and I've been seriously spoiled by this aspect of it :-/
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"The speaker sounds loud and clear, although not that distinctive in the hubbub of a busy room...
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This is my concern, loud does not necessarily mean good quality - although many reviewers seem to disagree.
MacaronyMax said:
The D'HD has dolby sound which should be Ace (Pun intended) :d
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Through the headphones, sure
xspyda said:
I can only assume you haven't heard the sound from a Nokia 5800? It's my current phone and I've been seriously spoiled by this aspect of it :-/
This is my concern, loud does not necessarily mean good quality - although many reviewers seem to disagree.
Through the headphones, sure
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Not on the desire HD it says so on the Dolby website it is through the speakers swell which I'm assuming are Dolby also
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Not on the desire HD it says so on the Dolby website it is through the speakers swell which I'm assuming are Dolby also
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I would be surprised (pleasantly so). Do you have a link to this please?
Agree with xspyda the sound from the Nokia 5800 is among the best I heard from any phone (loud, rich & clear) & miles better than any of the HTCs I've experienced.
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I would be surprised (pleasantly so). Do you have a link to this please?
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My bad saw it in the DHD forum but they lied lol , my bad im sure there would be a way to trick the phone that the speakers are the heaphones thus givving us dolby and srs
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im sure there would be a way to trick the phone that the speakers are the heaphones thus givving us dolby and srs
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wonder how that would work. thought the speaker was mono not stereo. but who knows?
Hello,
I was just reading a review on Hemorrdroids.
http://hemorrdroids.net/htc-desire-hd-review/
in the review it is quoted that the external speaker was something your mates will laugh at as the quality is that poor ?
I am hoping to upgrade to this phone in a couple of weeks. I was just wondering if that is that statement true ? I do use my external speaker sharing you tube videos with my mates at work. I can't imagine it being that bad.
Cheers for your help !!!
themonkster said:
Hello,
I was just reading a review on Hemorrdroids.
http://hemorrdroids.net/htc-desire-hd-review/
in the review it is quoted that the external speaker was something your mates will laugh at as the quality is that poor ?
I am hoping to upgrade to this phone in a couple of weeks. I was just wondering if that is that statement true ? I do use my external speaker sharing you tube videos with my mates at work. I can't imagine it being that bad.
Cheers for your help !!!
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if you are familiar with the other HTC phones such as the Desire and Nexus One, then this is pretty much the same on the HD. Quality is "bearable", but it is simply not loud enough. Max setting on the Desire HD is approx60-70& of Milestone Speaker loudness.
Yep, its the worst I have had...but the quality of the phone makes up for it.
Well its not good but to say its really bad.. when you use dolby mobile its okay.. and when you use dolby mobile on headset its AWESOME!! best i've ever heard on any phone / mp3 player
Yes I can confirm that. I just got mine, first thing I tested is external speaker volume, media playback sound, ringtones, etc. For the so called media abilities touted for the DHD I have to say the exernal speakers for both sound quality & more importantly loudness is pathetic.
I have a normal Desire, a iPhone 4 & a Samsung Galaxy S to compare it to right here I'm afraid to say its definately not in the same league as the latter 2 & even the Desire which I find quite tinny seems to go louder.
Maybe someone will make an audio hack so it goes louder!
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Yes I can confirm that. I just got mine, first thing I tested is external speaker volume, media playback sound, ringtones, etc. For the so called media abilities touted for the DHD I have to say the exernal speakers for both sound quality & more importantly loudness is pathetic.
I have a normal Desire, a iPhone 4 & a Samsung Galaxy S to compare it to right here I'm afraid to say its definately not in the same league as the latter 2 & even the Desire which I find quite tinny seems to go louder.
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for me i don't care about listening to music through the external speaker, my concern is could i hear the phone when it rings?
NoEnd said:
for me i don't care about listening to music through the external speaker, my concern is could i hear the phone when it rings?
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Ring volume is not that great I'm afraid.
I'm the reviewer...
I just find it so annoying, look at the San Fran, £99 and it's speaker is FAR better. Come on HTC!!!
The speaker is rubbish, it's just not loud enough. You can't even hear the GPS talking in a car lol.
If you want to see how sad it is, ive just updated the video thread with it in the bugs/problems sections a guy had some laugh with it.
to be honest the sound quality through the headphones is far more important to me. I guess it depends how you use the phone. Im just glad that people say the quality through a good pair of headphones is awesome!
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to be honest the sound quality through the headphones is far more important to me. I guess it depends how you use the phone. Im just glad that people say the quality through a good pair of headphones is awesome!
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im skeptical of how awesome it is, ive been spoiled with sound quality with my cowon S9 and Q-jays IEM's, im hoping that the DHD will sound on par with the cowon however i doubt it will be
awesome compared to iphone/ipod ....now that i can see
Speaker is woeful
I can also confirm that the external speaker is really disappointing. I criticised the original Desire for poor speaker volume and the promise of Dolby Mobile and SRS was one of the deal breakers in choosing to upgrade to the HD.
The ringtone selection is limited because you need to look for ones that are naturally loud. Forget watching some videos on the awesome screen when you can't hear the audio. I guess SatNav is going to be difficult too.
I use MixZing to improve speaker output for music when earphones are not nearby. But unless a hack appears to increase native volume, it's going to be a problem for a lot of people.
As a plus point, sound through ear/headphones is very impressive. Still needs a volume boost but perfectly acceptable for music playback.
Reminds me of the streak when i got it on 1.6 the speaker was quiet and made odd noises when put up full then came 2.1 its louder and clearer....Quite possibly a retarded software safety limit implemented.
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this is a deal breaker for me!
i thought with the SRS and all other crap they advertised that the speakers would be a bit decent! i have the n1 and the loud speaker and earpiece just total crap even with the hack to make them louder...
been missing a lot of calls cuz can't hear the phone (don't like vibration) ringing and when listening to the other side i try to find a quite place to listen to them as if i raise the volume the sound become very high pitched ..
damn you HTC i though the loud speaker would be at least like the ones in the EVO which is quite good!
a 50 bucks Chinese phone has far way better speaker than this crappy 700+ phone
hmm maybe most HTC's employees are bats! use high pitched frequencies to communicate
Can anyone compare the loudspeaker with HD2 ? HD2 seems even too loud for me.
just found a video on youtube that shows how bad the speaker is on the hd compared to a old n95
Yeah the speaker sucks, my old phone was the N95 and the speakers on that are a lot better than the DHD I have now.
who knows;9118124 just found a video on youtube that shows how bad the speaker is on the hd compared to a old n95
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I agree that the speaker on DHD is be low and "terrible" to people but I don't think it is fair to compare it to the nokia n95 which I think probably have one of the best speakerS (since it has 2 huge external speakers). Nokia is known for being a great music phone too.
aah, the N95, amazing sound. Used to have it for a long time, then got my first HTC (touch HD) and was extremely disappointed with the sound quality, and now that I got the desire hd, my ears got used to the crappy low-tech sound quality! well you cant have them all in one phone
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I just wonder if there is HW problem with speaker or its simply limited by software ? because I really couldnt belive that it would be that big problem to add louder speaker..
To start with, I made that comparison video. So if you have any questions, feel free to ask!
I am utterly disappointed by the speaker quality of the Desire HD.
I fear that this is hardware related, as the speakers sound very high-pitched, without any low tones at all. Also, when at maximum volume playing high toned music, the sound starts to distort and crackle. As you can hear, you can hear the low tones pretty loud and clear on the N95, but on the Desire HD, you can't hear it at all. The volume is noticeably about 2.5x louder on the N95.
If you compare the Desire HD with the Galaxy S, you will quickly notice that the Galaxy S has even better speakers than the N95, with plenty of low tones, at a high volume. The volume of the Galaxy S is many times higher and clearer than the Desire HD.
All of this leads me to conclude that for a flagship phone as the Desire HD is, it really has crappy speakers, and I truly don't understand how they could make a ****up like this. How much would good speakers cost anyway? Cents?
I expect a flagship multimedia phone like the Desire HD is to have proper speakers, comparable or better than we had in the N95 time (the flagship multimedia phone 3+ years ago). Samsung seems not to have any trouble to achieve this, but for some reason HTC didn't -utterly unexpected-.
Now let me be clear: even with the bad speakers, the Desire HD is a much better choice than the Galaxy S for several reasons, but really, HOW THE HELL have they achieved to fail so miserably on this point?? I'll make another video soon to compare speakers of the Desire HD against the Galaxy S. Also check out the other video's in my channel, rate and comment!
I think in general HTC's phones have sucky speakers, even that new HTC 7 phone with that big speaker isn't that impressive.
tried poweramp and turned they volumes up on that and it just crackled looks like its gunna be a replacement speaker hopefully the samsung galaxy s is similar in design, if so ill try and make it fit lol
What a shame on DHD about that poor loudspeakers. I do not care about music because I am sure that most of people are using headphones like Sennheisser or something like that but about ring loudness and vibration feeling, it really sucks.
You pay so much to this phone and knowing that you will be left with those speakers are really annoying.
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What a shame on DHD about that poor loudspeakers. I do not care about music because I am sure that most of people are using headphones like Sennheisser or something like that but about ring loudness and vibration feeling, it really sucks.
You pay so much to this phone and knowing that you will be left with those speakers are really annoying.
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The most Annoying thing is that I can't even hear it in my pocket as a matter of fact the speaker is so bad I even managed to miss 3 calls when the phone was layed speaker side down on the floor even though I was in the same room, really annoying
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I even managed to miss 3 calls when the phone was layed speaker side down on the floor even though I was in the same room, really annoying
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Sorry but this seems a bit exagerated! You're saying that having the dhd on the floor and being you in the same room, you couldn't hear a phone call? Come on..you were looking to TV with highest volume, or listening to music with earphones, or something similar...otherwise, sorry, I can't believe you!
Anyway, apart from this, I admit the speaker is really CRAP. I hate this. Hopefully vibration is good enough to feel the phone vibrating in your pocket, because the speaker could make you miss calls when in a sound-crouded area.
p.s. did we all have N95s before the dhd?? I had the 8Gb and...its screen has gone! It had the greatest speakers I have ever heard anyway, so the comparison is not that fair. Most phones don't have good speakers, but the one on the dhd is really RIDICOLOUS!
ErMeglio said:
Sorry but this seems a bit exagerated! You're saying that having the dhd on the floor and being you in the same room, you couldn't hear a phone call? Come on..you were looking to TV with highest volume, or listening to music with earphones, or something similar...otherwise, sorry, I can't believe you!
Anyway, apart from this, I admit the speaker is really CRAP. I hate this. Hopefully vibration is good enough to feel the phone vibrating in your pocket, because the speaker could make you miss calls when in a sound-crouded area.
p.s. did we all have N95s before the dhd?? I had the 8Gb and...it's screen has gone! It had the greatest speakers I have ever heard anyway, so the comparison is not that fair. Most phones don't have good speakers, but the one on the dhd is really RIDICOLOUS!
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i was watching tv, and the phone was around 5/6 meters away and i didnt have vibration on.. to be honest i couldnt believe it myself i even rang the phone to see if any music was playing lol
so how is in-call volume? is it just external sound or in-call volume sucks too?
That extremely inaccurate, the speaker, if configured properly is very very good. I an audiophile, I love sound quality, I've experienced many devices. The Desire Hd stands out by far for the smartphone category. N97? Come on. I be owned one of these they were decent..
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007K said:
That extremely inaccurate, the speaker, if configured properly is very very good. I an audiophile, I love sound quality, I've experienced many devices. The Desire Hd stands out by far for the smartphone category. N97? Come on. I be owned one of these they were decent..
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So that would mean that all of us have faulty speakers.
Someone else also said his speakers were great, so I guess a few people got decent ones.
Can we use SE Live View with this ? Does it have better speakers than this ? A option for not missing the calls ??
P.S- I m yet to buy DHD
007K said:
That extremely inaccurate, the speaker, if configured properly is very very good. I an audiophile, I love sound quality, I've experienced many devices. The Desire Hd stands out by far for the smartphone category. N97? Come on. I be owned one of these they were decent..
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Are you sure you are talking about de DHD? And how did you configure it properly, besides changing volume settings?
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And how did you configure it properly, besides changing volume settings?
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I don't know how he configured his DHD properly, but i think on DHD there're much more options to optimize sound quality than changing volume. I think abound de-/activate SRS and/or dolby mobile and there should be also an equalizer be integrated.
Think about that you shouln'd compare the quality of sound with any other devices than other smartphones or mobiles.
I've registered just to post a comment on the speaker quality. It's terrible. I'm not talking about headphones or the internal speaker. Specifically the loudspeaker. It's tinny, clips at higher volumes, and is worse than phones I had more than 5 years ago. I'm seriously considering sending the phone back on this basis.
Yep they are crap. I can't believe they've put something like this in one of the most expensive devices on the market.
Yesterday I was watching an episode of Family Guy and the quality of the sound was terrible. I thought it could be because of the codecs I used to convert the vid. I tried few mp3s (256bit) still crap. The louder I've put the volume the lower the quality went. Very very disappointing.
Still though... I love the phone and wouldn't change it for anything else. I wasn't expecting to get All-in-one device.
As anyone been reading Supercurio's tweets regarding the SGS2 audio codec? The prototype information showed that the sgs2 has a much weaker audio codec that can no where near match that of the original sgs
I hope they have changed it in the release because I don't wanna have to keep sgs just for music
Voodoo sound is one of the major highlights!
If galaxy 2 doesnt have the same or more audio quality than the first galaxy or an iphone, I will insta-cancel my preorder.
I am moving from HTC because of sound quality, not going to get another crappy sound phone.
Galaxy sound quality isnt that great until you get voodoo sound.. Then its like WOW
Surely samsung wouldnt go back? They used the good codec in the nexus s, galaxy, tab etc... why make such a flagship phone with a weaker audio... Specially considering the success of voodoo sound..
Galaxy S II is using the YMU818B MC1N audio codec from Yamaha.
Source: Supercurio
I don't know if it's better, but it better be, cause I was really hoping for that perfect audio quality from SGS2.
Now maybe this is a dumb question:
What exactly are you talking about? The sound which you get using headphone's on or the quality of music playing on the phone's loudspeaker?
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Now maybe this is a dumb question:
What exactly are you talking about? The sound which you get using headphone's on or the quality of music playing on the phone's loudspeaker?
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It can be referred to both, but mostly to headphones here.
im very interested in finding more info about this.
Nice thread OP.
Ohh please dont say this is true I thought they would use the same Wolfson DAC as the original, hopefully this will sound as good!
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Ohh please dont say this is true I thought they would use the same Wolfson DAC as the original, hopefully this will sound as good!
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Maybe even better, who knows? Fingers crossed.
Guitarfreak26 said:
As anyone been reading Supercurio's tweets regarding the SGS2 audio codec? The prototype information showed that the sgs2 has a much weaker audio codec that can no where near match that of the original sgs
I hope they have changed it in the release because I don't wanna have to keep sgs just for music
Voodoo sound is one of the major highlights!
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Supercurio tweeted that the sound chip in SGS2 is supposed to be better
than in SGS according to a internal source, hopefully this link works:
http://twitter.com/#!/supercurio/status/60758411373056000
He also has mentioned the info about the weaker codec could be just for the prototypes and it could be better for the retail version.
Hadnt seen that latest tweet, im hoping it is better than the SGS!
im an audophile and couldnt live without voodoo sound...
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Hadnt seen that latest tweet, im hoping it is better than the SGS!
im an audophile and couldnt live without voodoo sound...
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One of the reasons I went for SGS2, instead of Sensation is because of the sound quality in SGS, that I thought SGS2 is gonna get even better. So Samsung better not let me down.
is the chips it self is better in sgs2 than i can just imagen what voodoo sound would make this sound like
The audio codec of SGS II might show lower specs than SGS, but do we know if the audio hardware itself is a better overall...?
I've never been too picky on the audio for a phone though...as long as it's decent, SGSII is still a great phone.
the sgs audio has been good enough for me to ditch my mp3 player, so i'm hoping the sgs2 is at least on par with it.
It should be, i can't imagine samsung skimping on the parts. It's their flagship after all.
Yeah voodoo sound even beats iPhone sound quality
And the iPhone sound quality of the Loud Speaker is SHYT...
The iPhone 4 may be a bit better, but not up to PAR at what the device should be at such a premium rate.
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Yeah voodoo sound even beats iPhone sound quality
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Hmm, what is voodoo sound actually?
It's a superb enhancement of the sound quality through headphones and also it enhances recording. You can go and record a live gig With non distortion on the sound
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Hmm, what is voodoo sound actually?
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at the core it is replacing the stock audio driver. samsung did a half-assed job implementing the Wolfon chip and supercurio spent allot of time and effort to get it working to the level it is at.
Stock sound was not terrible but also not very good. hiss was apparent, never got very loud at all even maxed out. and when maxed and not loud it was clipping the signal.
Now after he worked his magic there is little to no hiss or background noise, gets as loud as you want it, I never go above 75%, very clear and clean sound. I love it.
It is the ONLY thing stopping me from jumping on the SGS2 bandwagon. that and trying to get an early upgrade from my captivate because its still giving me problems. just have to hold off till there is a good deal on the SGS2.
The speakers on this phone are by far the best thing I've heard in a mobile device ever.
Just wow!
Agreed! I tried one yesterday and they were amazing!
HTC finally heard us after bashing them for years about tiny speaker :highfive:
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HTC finally heard us after bashing them for years about tiny speaker :highfive:
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So I heard you like speakers?
TAAAAAKE EEEEEEM!!!!!!!
Even the headphone output DAC is great with beats disabled.
I think this is the first time I have felt happy with an android phone sound wise.
Major breakthrough for Htc well done, now this is a proper upgrade compared to last years model in every dept unlike some others.
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Even the headphone output DAC is great with beats disabled.
I think this is the first time I have felt happy with an android phone sound wise.
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Hello cool don't own one yet but heard some reviews say great till you plug in high quality cans and turn off beats and sounds really low quality.
Deep breath please not trolling but what is your experience and the output of the phone with quality cans - bass tone with without equ etc i.e on my samy I add to install extra software as the yam chip is hopeless and I am waiting for the One to be stocked here to try.
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Hello cool don't own one yet but heard some reviews say great till you plug in high quality cans and turn off beats and sounds really low quality.
Deep breath please not trolling but what is your experience and the output of the phone with quality cans - bypass tone with without equ etc i.e on my samy I add to install extra software as the yam chip is hopeless and I am waiting for the One to be stocked here to try.
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Hi I don't use beats.
I have Sennheiser HD25's and I think they sound great on this phone a lot better than the S3.
Tom
who cares about the headphone sound? .. you can go beyond the limit with some sound driver customization!
even the speaker i am sure u can make them louder ... this phone is the hottest thing happen since android