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[G2 DISCUSSION] PsFreedom

I don't believe there is any topic like this for the G2. Just wondering if there is any psfreedom app for the vision yet. I know it just got rooted like two days ago, but just wondering if there is a psfreedom out for another android phone that works with the G2
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thundertroy said:
I don't believe there is any topic like this for the G2. Just wondering if there is any psfreedom app for the vision yet. I know it just got rooted like two days ago, but just wondering if there is a psfreedom out for another android phone that works with the G2
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lls it's funny cuz I was wondering yesterday if someone was cooking a rom for psfreedom

From the PSFreedom site:
Please check the device compatibility list to see if your device is currently supported. Device-specific downloads and instructions will be provided on the device page linked from the compatibility list.
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I was just about to post this.. I need this bad!
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Just buy a p3go there $28
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imo the best way to do the psfreedom is in recovery. that way you dont have wifi issues and other little things ive heard about. i kow there are recoveries based on amon_ra's recovery for the g1 that have this included. im sure someone can do it to cwm or base off of amon_ra's for us.

Well I checked the site and the G2 ain't on it so was wondering if there is anyway.. and to the $28 I know they sell em but id rather just have it on my phone so I can take it easier. Since I take my phone everywhere I wouldn't have to worry about leavin it behind =p.
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thundertroy said:
Well I checked the site and the G2 ain't on it so was wondering if there is anyway.. and to the $28 I know they sell em but id rather just have it on my phone so I can take it easier. Since I take my phone everywhere I wouldn't have to worry about leavin it behind =p.
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Get a usb donge and put it on ur keys. But idk thats just me I always have my phone, wallet ,keys and 4gb jumpjump on me at all times.
Also u know u can not use ur phone while ur playing a game right?
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xile6 said:
Get a usb donge and put it on ur keys. But idk thats just me I always have my phone, wallet ,keys and 4gb jumpjump on me at all times.
Also u know u can not use ur phone while ur playing a game right?
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Well... actually, you can unplug it right after it's jailbroken until the next reboot.

Flippy125 said:
Well... actually, you can unplug it right after it's jailbroken until the next reboot.
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Um u tryed it? Because I heard that all jailbreaks must stay pluged up as long as the system is on or while playing a game
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xile6 said:
Um u tryed it? Because I heard that all jailbreaks must stay pluged up as long as the system is on or while playing a game
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You only need to plug in the phone/usb dongle to boot up the system. Once it has started up, you can unplug. Yes, I have tried it. I've been doing this since the port came over to the G1 a good while ago. I would like to know where you heard this from.

I'm also waiting for a psfreedom on G2!! I dropped my G1 one too many times and it's finally dead... /tear, good times w/ the G1

i broke my G1 sometime back , i been waiting on Psfreedom on G2 since then , i havent turned off my ps3 , because i couldnt get it back into dev mode .
but now theres hope...

You only need to connect it at the startup of the PS3. Once it's started you can disconnect it.

ramainli said:
You only need to connect it at the startup of the PS3. Once it's started you can disconnect it.
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Good to know. I thought that all jailbreak had to be pluged in at all time.

Cant believe no one has said anything about this..

Lol 9 times out of 10 someone is porting it to the G2 as we type
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Well glad to know others want this too =p. Hopefully it'll come out soon.. to bad u can't use the G1 version to work on the G2...
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im hoping it comes soon...
my power whent out the other day , and now i cant use my ps3 until i get this phone or my wives g1 rooted/psfreedomed

Yea my friend has it on his iphone 3G and he hates it. Cuz he's gotta dual boot to android and then run it from that. Which sucks. =p.
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Waiting for root? Get involved!

I know there are a lot of anxious people out there like myself who are stuck without root and S-ON. I have been setting up my SDK and the kitchen over the last few weeks ( I have kids ). If you want to get involved, here is a quick reference to what I have found recently. What I miss most *now* about not having root is the ability to test my own ROMs on my own EVO.
Chef Central Forum - dsixda's kitchen!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633246
Android SDK
http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
Eclipse developers tool
http://www.eclipse.org/
Android eclipse plug-in
http://developer.android.com/sdk/eclipse-adt.html
HTC dev site for source code for different Android phones.
http://developer.htc.com/
Get licensed to publish your own Android apps for only $25!
https://www.google.com/accounts/Ser...h&followup=https://market.android.com/publish
Tommytomatoe's unrooted Launcher project
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1148978
other suggestions??? Post your ideas!
Take a deep breath, stop feeling sorry for yourself, DIG IN, and soon you will have this...

Great post I'm in......

I don't get all the fuss. Taking an OTA update loses root. No secret there. Were a bunch of people so interested in the official GB that they didn't want a day for a rooted rom?

There are those who lost root due to receiving replacement phones and there are those that are new to the evo and received their phone loaded with the update.

im0rtalz said:
There are those who lost root due to receiving replacement phones and there are those that are new to the evo and received their phone loaded with the update.
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Wasn't thinking on that angle. Thanks

Looks amazing difficult lol

Why does everyone assume if u don't have root you took the OTA mine had nothing to do with being impatient I had to get a warranty replacement that shipped with 4.24
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I Agreed
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ruffneckZeVo said:
Why does everyone assume if u don't have root you took the OTA mine had nothing to do with being impatient I had to get a warranty replacement that shipped with 4.24
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I totally agree. I know that fits my situation. My phone should be out on the truck for delivery today. Got my fingers and toes crossed it has an older build on it.
Regarding this post though. Very good idea and I really hope some people that can get this done chime in. Root is desperately needed back to the Evo.

Forgot to mention that when you register as an Android developer in the market, you become eligible to order a fully unlocked phone; Nexus One and HTC dev phone 2.
More ideas? Suggestions please...
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It was probably mentioned before, don't flame me if it were, but what about the root method by teamwin for evo 3d and sensation?
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dbolot1 said:
It was probably mentioned before, don't flame me if it were, but what about the root method by teamwin for evo 3d and sensation?
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As it stands......no, too many differences between the devices, however it may lead down the right path to unlocking the OG Evo. Believe me, I'm following it (I have a 3D & my wife just got a refurb warranty OG Evo with the update).

hockeyfamily737 said:
As it stands......no, too many differences between the devices, however it may lead down the right path to unlocking the OG Evo. Believe me, I'm following it (I have a 3D & my wife just got a refurb warranty OG Evo with the update).
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As I remember, teamwin said that root was obtained from the kernel.
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Already tested...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1148519&highlight=teamwin

lil_bono said:
Already tested...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1148519&highlight=teamwin
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Thanks.....I just spent like 30 minutes looking for that thread, LOL. For the life of me I couldn't remember whether it was here or in the 3D forums or the Sensation forums.

In for being optimistic about it.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0470565527/ref=redir_mdp_mobile/177-2425905-1608248
More ideas? Please post
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Was wondering if any dev has tried to work this issue from the hardware side. Instead of using C++ or Visual or other languages, trying this thru Assembler language. I am a computer programmer but I have not done any work with HTC phones because of job, but I do have some ideas that I would love to share if anyone is interested.

uniquenameevo said:
I don't get all the fuss. Taking an OTA update loses root. No secret there. Were a bunch of people so interested in the official GB that they didn't want a day for a rooted rom?
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Mine was an insurance replacement. I had a rooted EVO happily running Deck's and Tiamat up until late last week.

AA27 said:
Was wondering if any dev has tried to work this issue from the hardware side. Instead of using C++ or Visual or other languages, trying this thru Assembler language. I am a computer programmer but I have not done any work with HTC phones because of job, but I do have some ideas that I would love to share if anyone is interested.
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I'm interested. Please feel free to post or PM me with your thoughts. But, I have to imagine the OS still maintains some degree of control (if it's even possible to compile and execute assembly programs in Android). I'm afraid there's probably a reason no one else has done that . Thanks!

How does one explain ROM flashing to an iphone user?

OK, lately I seem to get surrounded by iphone that seemed interested to my Nexus. I tried to explain what flashing custom ROMs. But they have absolutely no idea.
Just wondering what best to describe this to them. Perhaps drawing some parallels? I don't know. They just give me this funny look.

Easy. Explain that android is an operating system just like iOS and you are simply installing different versions of the android operating system.
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You can also say that Android is an open source operating system, and everyone can easily modify and tweak it, and as an user you have the ability to choose what you prefer and install it with few easy steps.

Yup
Android is Open source so building/flashing roms lets you have it your way
For the users preferences
Apple doesnt let you build off their sources. You gotta have it their way for the iphone user.
..oh wait you Can change your wallpaper with the iphone
Also you can "jailbreak" the iphone
Notice they call it Jailbreak .. ha
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I would just tell them, "Oh, it's like installing Windows XP or 7, Vista, etc. Whichever I choose, on my phone."
If they're more Apple ish, replace Windows with "installing OS X, Leopard, Mountain Lion, etc"

"Anyone can modify Android as they like, so I have one of versions some guy made"

Just look at them smile and say.. oh you ain't up on that.. then walk away ..
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I would start by asking if they are familiar with loading different Linux or BSD distros on PCs.
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Macavely05 said:
Just look at them smile and say.. oh you ain't up on that.. then walk away ..
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+1.
Vs Nexus S4G using tapatalk2

The ability to do stuff you can't with your phone. Like uninstall crap on it, which would leave your phone as an expensive paperweight. Or the best way to avoid "fragmentation." Jk!
You can say something like having complete control of your phone from the ringtones and wallpapers to controlling the amount of power your phone uses etc etc. I always say something along those lines.
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915rko said:
The ability to do stuff you can't with your phone. Like uninstall crap on it, which would leave your phone as an expensive paperweight. Or the best way to avoid "fragmentation." Jk!
You can say something like having complete control of your phone from the ringtones and wallpapers to controlling the amount of power your phone uses etc etc. I always say something along those lines.
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Horrible
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I'm an iPhone user, so maybe I can help.
Just say,like was stated before, are you familiar with different Linux distributions? If yes: yeah its just like that but for your phone. If no: well that's usually where it starts, I could explain but I don't think you'll understand. That's it, you won't gain anything by explaining it to them. They'll just think your in love with a PHONE.
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Ask them three question before starting any declaration:
-do you understand the meaning of OPEN?
-do you understand the meaning of OPEN SOURCE?
-do you understand the meaning of
OPEN SOURCE OS?
90% cases there will be nothing else to say.
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All you would need is to draw a pic of a apple in jail and have a Android eating a apple on the outside of it :good:

You can just show them hour CWM app.. and say "oh you don't have an app for that ?" Then watch them go crazy looking through their app store for an app that does the same thing but better..

Don't waste ur time on idiots, but if u meet someone sincerely interested, then explain them using ur nexus (missed notification light, volume rocker wake etc) none of it couldn't be possible for our nexus without custom roms...

I'll just advice you to stay away on that topic. Its not Idiotic if someone loves one brand and others don't, so stay away on those post, its impolite. Also I've read other post explaining ticky tacky stuffs, what they told are just mere features not the whole meaning on to it. The correct explanation maybe is the ones who told you about installing Windows XP, 7 or 8 those are the closer ones, its like Eclair, GB, ICS and JB (not comparing them huh, just the closest thing there is).
If they are that interested maybe to purchase one Android Phone why not help them go through this changes but if the conversation go to flaming that is the sign for you to exit because no one wins anyway.
Personally I hate when they call my Nexus S an iPhone. I just kept telling what brand and model it really is, if they ask why not iPhone I just tell that its not really my style and 95% of the time they all nod no questions asked. I look at my phone anyway and it really looked like iPhone without the circle button. Anyway I got a White Nexus S with White Mercury Jelly Case, now you imagine that.

i had to explain that to a friend who uses an iphone.
i told him how great that is and that there are so many cool roms availabe. two weeks later he bought an htc hd2 and is happy
true story

Shark_On_Land said:
Horrible
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I'm an iPhone user, so maybe I can help.
Just say,like was stated before, are you familiar with different Linux distributions? If yes: yeah its just like that but for your phone. If no: well that's usually where it starts, I could explain but I don't think you'll understand. That's it, you won't gain anything by explaining it to them. They'll just think your in love with a PHONE.
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It was haha, but if you knew some of the people around me, you probably would be waisting your time explaining. I try to find an easy understandable way, but no luck. It would also be great If I knew anything past flashing roms and kernels, there's not much I can do either
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Google Edition Rom for Sprint

I know we had a few threads going before about porting the GE Rom for Sprint and the only issue we had was that 3g data didn't work, I noticed a few of them are missing either deleted or something happened, Is there a new thread I am just missing and has there been any progress on the port?
Things I found that might help someone trying to port
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2231256
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2069850
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2343355

Just be patient, keep reading, and help whenever you can. I'm sure things will get ironed out soon enough. The guys that know how to hack, are doing their best. Keep giving them a daily pat on the back and letting them know we appreciate their hard work. It will get better and more stable through time.

I noticed some folks over in the VZW GS4 forums managed to port a GE rom. I attempted to flash it but it wouldn't boot. Flashed rom , kernel and su. Even tried to flash without kernel just to see if it would boot but no dice. I also noticed in the thread that the rom had working tw apps, namely watchon, which makes me feel even more impatient to get ahold of it.

Angst911 pm'd me about a sprint version. It's uploading now for him to test and day whether it works like I think it will. If he approves it, I'll post it then.
I'm kind of surprised no one had already made one for sprint.
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janob09 said:
I noticed some folks over in the VZW GS4 forums managed to port a GE rom. I attempted to flash it but it wouldn't boot. Flashed rom , kernel and su. Even tried to flash without kernel just to see if it would boot but no dice. I also noticed in the thread that the rom had working tw apps, namely watchon, which makes me feel even more impatient to get ahold of it.
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Stuff that was in the build.prop of the verzion one however not in the t-mobile one.
"
# Network Mode CDMA/EVDO/LTE auto
ro.telephony.default_network=8
# Restore delay of the default network - 30 mins (VZW)
android.telephony.apn-restore=1800000
# Restore delay of VZW Apps APN - 1 min (VZW)
vzw.telephony.appsapn-restore=60000
# Use CDMALTE Phone
telephony.lteOnCdmaDevice=1
ro.com.google.clientidbase.ms=android-verizon
ro.com.google.clientidbase.am=android-verizon
ro.com.google.clientidbase.yt=android-verizon
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Also after looking deeper the fact its a TW Base means we need to use CSC_SPRINT_CHAMELEON to get it working i believe..

The build.prop isn't the main reason that vzw got data.
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Dubbsy said:
The build.prop isn't the main reason that vzw got data.
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But it was definitely a big chunk. Otherwise it wouldn't know that it was a CDMA phone and the right options wouldn't show up in Settings.
So you did some smali merges or added qmi libs, or both?

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But it was definitely a big chunk. Otherwise it wouldn't know that it was a CDMA phone and the right options wouldn't show up in Settings.
So you did some smali merges or added qmi libs, or both?
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No if I had decompiled the framework and ui and did smali changes there wouldn't be the issues that it still has.
I just did a lot of copy and pasting. Ive been working on a fully functioning vzw port of ruj's blukuban(with permission) for a couple weeks. Through doing that I found how to do various work arounds to get things functioning but not perfect until you actually edit things correctly. I have everything decompiled, just a matter of digging through it.
Until I get a definitive list of everything from my project I hadn't planned on posting it...I don't want to lead people down a path that doesn't work. And I don't want to have to support those people's projects when my list doesn't work.
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Angst911 must not be on or he's busy. Anyone want to guinee-pig? Pm me if so.
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oscarthegrouch said:
Just be patient, keep reading, and help whenever you can. I'm sure things will get ironed out soon enough. The guys that know how to hack, are doing their best. Keep giving them a daily pat on the back and letting them know we appreciate their hard work. It will get better and more stable through time.
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I got data working on the Google Edition . Full 3G not sure about LTE yet , but I'm waiting for it to upload right now to dropbox.

janob09 said:
I noticed some folks over in the VZW GS4 forums managed to port a GE rom. I attempted to flash it but it wouldn't boot. Flashed rom , kernel and su. Even tried to flash without kernel just to see if it would boot but no dice. I also noticed in the thread that the rom had working tw apps, namely watchon, which makes me feel even more impatient to get ahold of it.
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I flashed that Verizon port just fine.. Got LTE as well. Sure you got a good download?
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I flashed that Verizon port just fine.. Got LTE as well. Sure you got a good download?
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Are you on Verizon or sprint? I posted both versions now. And have confirmation that data is achievable with it.
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Dubbsy said:
Are you on Verizon or sprint? I posted both versions now. And have confirmation that data is achievable with it.
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I'm on Sprint
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Cool deal. Well there is one posted now that won't change your device to the i545 if you care about that.
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Dubbsy said:
Cool deal. Well there is one posted now that won't change your device to the i545 if you care about that.
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I just tried that one on my sprint S4 and it bootloops a lot so I flashed the vzw one and a sprint touchwiz kernel and the issue is gone. Also surprisingly 3G data worked with out haven't to mess with apns but 4G is still not working.
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Why is the LG G2 community so small?

Hey guys,
Just wondering why the Sprint LG G2 community is so small?
I Don't want to get the phone only to have devs stop working on it.
But damn, the specs are pretty impressive!

Don't want it don't get it
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CrfEpic4g said:
Don't want it don't get it
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Let me rephrase.
I want to get the phone, but am afraid development will stop

No it won't LG G2 its the first one with Spark I think people will buy it more not less ? Plus they don't know what to get out of this beast of a phone.....
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But for it being out for 5 months, I would expect a lot more supporters. Whatever, I'm gonna get this sucker!!

You can make it look how ever you want bro I'm telling you but g2 exposed for status and you will thank me old dee plus you can really change anything....
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Just look how the navigation bar changes color and the status bar too. With g2 exposed from the android market which will cost you one dollar something
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One last one
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Not sure still ?
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Not I made it look like an iPhone cause my friend were saying that the lg ui suck ! So I change it to their iPhone ui and ask them to make their iPhone like mine$ ? Which will never happened ? They just get what apple give them ?
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Not sure still ?
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Not I made it look like an iPhone cause my friend were saying that the lg ui suck ! So I change it to their iPhone ui and ask them to make their iPhone like mine$ ? Which will never happened ? They just get what apple give them ?
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I don't mean to Hijack OP's thread, but what SystemUI are you using for your phone?
Thanks!

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Let me rephrase.
I want to get the phone, but am afraid development will stop
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buying smartphone for devs sake ... u are child

have you checked all the threads? why do you think it's small? we got all the major roms bro
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It seems to be a trend I've noticed with the Moto X and now this phone. The devices and OS are getting so good, that very little is needed to "fix" them. I used to be a major flashaholic. I helped develop the method to convert an HTC One to GPE, I haven't run a custom ROM on a device for several months now. Stock Rooted with Xposed is all I need anymore.
Buy the phone for what it can do out of the box, not for what it MAY do in the future.
My 2 cents.

Once a flash whore always a flash whore. hehe Stock is great with the G2 but I just get bored of it rather quickly. I bounce around to whatever Rom is updated. As of now I like dr87's Roms because the echo is gone with the 801 builds. Some Flex Roms are nice too. Just make sure you back up your EFS. I'm thinking about trying the G Flex phone but not sure I want to do that because the G2 development is good. If the G Flex is to big then I would just wait for the S5 or G3 but if ya need a phone now the G2 is great. Might be able to get a discount for Valentine's day.

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have you checked all the threads? why do you think it's small? we got all the major roms bro
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I took a loot at the Sprint section and the android develpment section was 2 pages long...
I plan on using this sucker for 2 whole years, I think I will wait until valentine's day like how sweets55 suggested.
Not really a flash-a-holic anymore. Just want to get rid of bloatware and add wifi tethering.
All signs point to yes on getting this phone

assumption said:
I took a loot at the Sprint section and the android develpment section was 2 pages long...
I plan on using this sucker for 2 whole years, I think I will wait until valentine's day like how sweets55 suggested.
Not really a flash-a-holic anymore. Just want to get rid of bloatware and add wifi tethering.
All signs point to yes on getting this phone
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Look at the regular Android Development section or the Original Android Development section. They both have multi-variant support for tons of stuff including ROMs and general fixes/apps.

simple said it is NOT about third party soft .. it is about amount of end users .. yeah not many people in the world purchased G2 EVEN it is fastest android from all .. CURRENTLY .. it is just because it is not labeled samsung as more people know what that is .. plenty plenty people HAS NO IDEA what LG is ... they know what apple is and samsung .. even HTC or sony is more known .. that is the issue and u been leaded to here for answer for this question .. THAT is the WHY devs. focus more on samsung htc ,sony lg been crap in past .. LG became good in smartphones only in begining of 2013 .. that is just year only ..