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Hi, thank you very much bestialbud , for your contribution now enjoy factory firmware and all functions work perfectly in A7. and also I have the Market.
thanks for the positive confirmation.
i'll try and throw out some more stuff for you the a7 users this weekend to accompany the gapps fix; some build prop improvements to get you access to more apps.
i'll try and throw out some more stuff for the rom chefs to kick up the activity in rom and mod development for the a7; map out all the files, permissions and uid/gid's, and then MAYBE if i have the time this weekend go experimental and package the factory rom into what i consider a normal update zip; zipped up rom instead of a system image w/ a script that sets all the roms permissions, symbolic links and busybox install. once its in a more manageable format like that you'll get more would be chef's and themer's contributing.
been thinkin' about it all week, i just don't have a tablet of my own (i'm the misses android fixit tech), so my works restricted to weekend mornings.
would be great, that within your improvements we have an ad-hoc connection to work properly.
the market does not have all the permissions, but wiht the permissions you indicate the fix the problem.
I'm anxious to see your improvements. Thanks again.
i'm sorry my english.
genialor; yeah, i never had any success w the adhoc wifi fixes myself. adhoc limitations are pretty common for mobile devices, not just android. i actually picked up a dsl connection due to this limitation, quite reluctantly i might add.
there is some 25 other similar tegra tablets. a portable solution could still present itself. i wouldnt count on any manufacturer adding adhoc connectity if they didnt provide it in the initial release.
i can say the usual passion finger, or release keys added to the stock one didnt make any difference. but im only using skyfire for an app name to search.
if folks could list other apps they dont see, it may help to make some gradual steps.
otherwise as far as savey folks looking at direct manipulation; the fingerprint that the market app reads after being copied from build prop is stored in /data/data/com.android.vending along w the characteristics your device supports. im a compare the tabs to my phone for fun to see if i can manipulate the data, because fingerprint replacement, w this gapps package in the rom isnt working. if that works, i can post instructions for the savvy, and MAYBE dig up some way to creatively automate adding those details.
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Thanks buddy install UPDATE04-16 market + google apps and it works perfectly.
Bestialbud excellent job. Full Market yes, yes, yes ...
What is the latest market app, on Dexter mod I am running 2.3.6..
if folks could list other apps they dont see, it may help to make some gradual steps.
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Hey, Tested your update and it seems to work fine except for some game apps. These aren't crucial but may indicate some permission issues: "crazy snowboards" seems to have a orientation problem.( only work in portrait mode.) "mau mau"intermittent FC.
*** note these apps worked in Dexter's latest mode ***
Otherwise Good Job!!
I find the installation notes for gapps mod in original thread extremely confusing.
I just installed official firmware (BTW the installation notes on official site were crystal clear). What should I do now?
A video of the entire process would be great.
P.S: NP, I just did not understand that to navigate between recovery menu items I must use "back" button.
Looks like gapps works now
sorry, i didnt provide step by step details for recovery use. i wont update that information either, as recovery is likely to change soon w lightly different instructions..
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Some market applications can't see sdcard...
Looks like it is mounted as /storage/sdcard-disk0 while these apps expect it to be at /sdcard. Also /sdcard is mounted somewhere on internal memory, same place as /storage actually . Is there any way to change it?
Some market applications can't see sdcard...
Looks like it is mounted as /storage/sdcard-disk0 while these apps expect it to be at /sdcard. Also /sdcard is mounted somewhere on internal memory, same place as /storage actually . Is there any way to change it?
Ummm, there's so much information on this...please do a search in these threads on SD card and you will understand why no one wants to answer that question............
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Some market applications can't see sdcard...
Ummm, there's so much information on this...please do a search in these threads on SD card and you will understand why no one wants to answer that question............
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I did search and could not find any comprehensible information.
I didn't say it would be comprehensible.
The external sd card is mounted as /storage/sdcard-disk0. The A7 can read from it but not write apps to it, or at least the market doesn't and I don't think you can run apps from it, just install from it. There is an internal sd card 4GB total, but with 1+GB available for apps, and we can also add our own sd card (up to 32GB) stuffed with our music, videos, jpgs, documents, etc....that way we can access them through gallery and media players, etc, without having to download a bunch of junk onto our internal memory.
1GB is a huge amount of internal space for the kind of apps that I suspect most of us are using. Sorry if I'm not clear, but in truth this topic has been done to death.
Maybe our intrepid developers can find a way to rewrite the way this thing works now that they have the kernel source but maybe not.
there are ways and roms that may change the sdcard mount location. the apps may com thru the google market, but their ability to run is another function of the rom.
this is only a google apps addon.
you'll have to wait a lil bit longer til you see a rom from me. i'm interested in recovery and themeing for this device right now..
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Some market applications can't see sdcard...
Looks like it is mounted as /storage/sdcard-disk0 while these apps expect it to be at /sdcard. Also /sdcard is mounted somewhere on internal memory, same place as /storage actually . Is there any way to change it?
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This is an on going problem with the sd card and the way its mounted by elocity's implementation of Android 2.2. To male a long story short, Elocity's android version is 2.2 compatible not a true implementation of Android 2.2. As far as I know no one has been able to work around this problem. Dexter tried starting with mod 1.3 but people started having problems with sd and usb detection. I'm waiting for Stream Tv to finally decide to fix this problem.
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This is an on going problem with the sd card and the way its mounted by elocity's implementation of Android 2.2. To male a long story short, Elocity's android version is 2.2 compatible not a true implementation of Android 2.2. As far as I know no one has been able to work around this problem. Dexter tried starting with mod 1.3 but people started having problems with sd and usb detection. I'm waiting for Stream Tv to finally decide to fix this problem.
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Drugs are bad mm'kay
Why on earth do people feel the need to disseminate misinformation on here on such a regular basis.
Go back and re-read Dexter's posts on the subject. There is a reason, a real reason, not made up like "its not true android 2.2". This is not a phone, it has larger internal storage and thus relies less on the external media. To have it the way you people want it (like a monstrous phone) the external storage would end up being the default, making it difficult to use the internal storage, and also REQUIRING that you have a decent size microSD just to make the tablet usable.
BTW, I am still laughing that I am apparently using an Android knock off lolololol
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Drugs are bad mm'kay
Why on earth do people feel the need to disseminate misinformation on here on such a regular basis.
Go back and re-read Dexter's posts on the subject. There is a reason, a real reason, not made up like "its not true android 2.2".
This is not a phone, it has larger internal storage and thus relies less on the external media. To have it the way you people want it (like a monstrous phone) the external storage would end up being the default, making it difficult to use the internal storage, and also REQUIRING that you have a decent size microSD just to make the tablet usable.
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BTW, I am still laughing that I am apparently using an Android knock off lolololol
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I don't understand your response. I read Dexter's post on the subject. You need to re-read it. OS's in general have standards. If I run a windows, linux or mac system to name a few, you expect your hardware and software to run a certain way. For example, when you to read, write or print a file, any software you run for that OS should allow you to this on any computer that you run that particular OS on the same way. This isn't rocket science for a typical consumer. If you want to prove to me that I don't know what I'm talking about or worse yet that I
"disseminate misinformation on here on such a regular basis
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. , please show specifically where what I said concerning Android 2.2 is wrong other then that you may have read dexter's post.
This is not a phone, it has larger internal storage and thus relies less on the external media. To have it the way you people want it (like a monstrous phone) the external storage would end up being the default, making it difficult to use the internal storage, and also REQUIRING that you have a decent size microSD just to make the tablet usable.
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. That's irrelevant. The standard is not about what you want but the way it was decided that the OS should work plus I believe this is or will be addressed in Android 3.0. This constitutes and opinion rather than a fact. I didn't spend $299 on your opinion which BTW I don't agree with.
I understand XDA is developers site and you guys are use to thinking outside the box, which is fine by me, but we aren't all here for the same reasons and when I purchase something and it says I'm getting a certain thing, as a consumer, I expect the minimum of what if I'm purchasing. The box days "Android 2.2" not "Android 2.2 compatible" or "Android 2.2 features" or "Android 2.2 clone."
The question is:
- What is "Android 2.2"
- How does this relate to software and hardware issues with the A7?
- Is there a work around?
- Is there a firmware update?
and If your replying to a post, do can you contribute anything helpeful because telling me to search all of Dexter's post because you think you say a post concerning this already without reference that to that post is a waste of everyone time.
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I don't understand your response. I read Dexter's post on the subject. You need to re-read it. OS's in general have standards. If I run a windows, linux or mac system to name a few, you expect your hardware and software to run a certain way. For example, when you to read, write or print a file, any software you run for that OS should allow you to this on any computer that you run that particular OS on the same way. This isn't rocket science for a typical consumer. If you want to prove to me that I don't know what I'm talking about or worse yet that I . , please show specifically where what I said concerning Android 2.2 is wrong other then that you may have read dexter's post. . That's irrelevant. The standard is not about what you want but the way it was decided that the OS should work plus I believe this is or will be addressed in Android 3.0. This constitutes and opinion rather than a fact. I didn't spend $299 on your opinion which BTW I don't agree with.
I understand XDA is developers site and you guys are use to thinking outside the box, which is fine by me, but we aren't all here for the same reasons and when I purchase something and it says I'm getting a certain thing, as a consumer, I expect the minimum of what if I'm purchasing. The box days "Android 2.2" not "Android 2.2 compatible" or "Android 2.2 features" or "Android 2.2 clone."
The question is:
- What is "Android 2.2"
- How does this relate to software and hardware issues with the A7?
- Is there a work around?
- Is there a firmware update?
and If your replying to a post, do can you contribute anything helpeful because telling me to search all of Dexter's post because you think you say a post concerning this already without reference that to that post is a waste of everyone time.
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this is all a misunderstanding of how tablets are supposed to work, and caused by the fact that android 2.2 is made for a phone with external memory cards, and less to nothing of internal memory.
the current installation where apps are "moved" to internal storage is actually how vendors are trying to implement 2 types of storage.
comparing this to a mobile with just sdcard, and android 2.2 only supporting one storage type, the preferred storage becomes the "internal" and sdcard handling as you notice is now pointing to a location with the internal storage location.
the mountpoint at the internal storage location is planned based on the fact that users coming from an android based mobile knows alot about where to find data, which is in the storage location, so its put as mount at the storage so its easy to access, and not actually any bug at all.
so until better handling is presented (hopefully 3.0) people will continue to think that the handling is wrong or something is not wright here, but it is correct.
your internal storage of "just" 1.5GB is the preferred location, as tablets are not meant to have sdcards as preferred storage, if you chose not to put a sdcard into the tablet. so the choice was easy, use internal storage for android so ppl didnt need to buy additional cards.
but the lack of storage internally is a vendor decision, not a bug or not "the android way" a problem in any way..
imagine, those users without any sdcard, being unable to use the feature of android to a storage, and needed to use data storage for all files, that would look strange, if you didnt have the option available..
it could have been planned differently but vendors (all of the tegra2 vendors) has chosen this path, which could have been done differently but its all relate to apps and how they expect your device to work..
a long explanation, but remember 2.2 is not made for tablets, it made for small devices with external memory cards, which is long overdue and is followed up with the new android 3.0 which hopefully solves your problem.
conclusion,
Nvidia could have chosen a different way of using android, but they're still rather new to the platform and their design is not without problems yet (honeycomb will show that too), so if they used real planning and organized memory and sdcard handling like 2.2 was made for, you would have no problems at all. Remember Nvidia designed it this way, and they are the reason you have problems..Lack of knowledge of design and functionality, like BMW trying to make graphics card for a pc, coming from designing cars, their work would not be in a class like nvidia graphics, but probably ok..but far from good..
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There was no button to make the important text blink and slap you in the face at the same time, so I hope bold and red will suffice.
Don't get pissy with me because you are putting out misinformation and got called on it. There are people who come on here to learn and someone might have actually believed your BS about "Android 2.2 compatible" or "Android 2.2 features" or "Android 2.2 clone."
I have contributed. You on the other hand have not. Spreading crap like this is merely tantamount to telling people the sky is purple.
Edit: by the way, the "on a regular basis" part was not directed at you or any other individual person. I was pointing out how often this happens, not keeping score of who has done it the most.
Another Edit: Of course it will be addressed in Android 3.0 ... 3.0 IS FOR TABLETS!
Yet Another Edit: No, you are right, you didn't spend $299 on my opinion. You spent $299 on a bottom of the line Android 2.2 tablet hoping for the best, just like the rest of us... And since you seem so hung up on what the box said, did your box say "Powered by Android 2.2" or did it say "Powered by some guy named Rob's opinion"? I am willing to bet it said the first. However if you decide that you are willing to pay for my "opinion", there happens to be a donate button right under my name on the left. Thanks for playing.
so, yeah. mount locations a rom issue.
'piss' somewhere else?
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Okay--this might be a stupid question, but am I supposed to install this and Dexter's mod over the firmware?
If so, should I do them in a particular order?
Thanks for all that you guys do!
Sorry for being a noob here. I'm new to Android, and I just want to check that, is there no way to back up everything (like iTunes for iPad) unless the Tf is rooted?
I understand that titanium backup is the most recommended. Does the Tf need to be rooted for the restore to work too?
I honestly would rather not go through the trouble of rooting/unrooting, if I can forever avoid it. I just want to back things up like I did on my iPad. Any help will be appreaciated.
Unless you are going to copy your sd card/ removable device with windows explorer or some other type of file manager...not sure about Mac or Linux..there really is no way to back up without being rooted. Titanium does need root and doing a nandroid backup also requires root. In order to restore...you need to use these items to backup first...and this again requires root then you can restore.
Thank you for confirming. This is a big FAILED on Android. There is a reason why Apple stock is at an all time high.
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Thank you for confirming. This is a big FAILED on Android. There is a reason why Apple stock is at an all time high.
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I think you can backup the device through nvflash without root, although this will back up whole partitions, not individual applications/files. I'm not sure what format the .img files are, but you *might* be able to manipulate them to extract individual goodies, but I haven't tried it yet.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1129308
File Expert app has a Backup option in it that will backup all your installed apps, basically just the APK files to reinstall them which for me is plenty, cause I can just manually backup any extra things I might have such as pics or videos.
you can use mybackuppro without root and backup your apps and data including contacts and pictures etc. to sdcard or to the cloud.
you can use Astro to back up apps as apk files as well.
you can connect your Asus to your pc via usb and copy the entire contents to your hardrive.
Hmm apple is much much worse it was a PITA to root. Then its locked down where I have to boot it from a PC everytime or its not rooted any more.
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Hmm apple is much much worse it was a PITA to root. Then its locked down where I have to boot it from a PC everytime or its not rooted any more.
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The point is, you don't need to jailbreak (root) the iOS. Backup works natively on stock iPhone, iPad and iPod. iTunes may not be your favourite app, but it backs up the devices COMPLETELY. That is, when you buy a brand new device, connect to iTunes, and select restore from a backup... Voila! You new device now looks exactly as the old one, with all the personal info, music, movies, apps, games level, app settings transferred.
@CarsnGadgets - if I connect my Tf to pc via usb and copy the entire content over, how do I restore it? Say, if I lose my Tf and buy another one, can I copy the backup over to overwrite the entire content of the new Tf? (I doubt that)
An Android tablet is a whole Google experience product. Therefore, you should already have a gmail account. I mean, whats the point of owning an android product without gmail. Ok, once you set up your new tablet, you log into all google related products. That said, your email, location services, maps saves, buzz etc is synced to your new tablet. As I understand it, when you to the market, and search for an app you already had, the market knows that and allows a re-download and install, even for purchased apps.
If you wanted to "back-up" anything, you could do a file explorer view of the contents of the transformer, and copy the whole thing over to your PC in a folder once in a while. Thats about it.
I would gladly do all this "extra work" compared to being tied down to a Pc with an apple product, which you cannot even use out of the box until it's synced to itunes, What a load of crap.
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The point is, you don't need to jailbreak (root) the iOS. Backup works natively on stock iPhone, iPad and iPod. iTunes may not be your favourite app, but it backs up the devices COMPLETELY. That is, when you buy a brand new device, connect to iTunes, and select restore from a backup... Voila! You new device now looks exactly as the old one, with all the personal info, music, movies, apps, games level, app settings transferred.
@CarsnGadgets - if I connect my Tf to pc via usb and copy the entire content over, how do I restore it? Say, if I lose my Tf and buy another one, can I copy the backup over to overwrite the entire content of the new Tf? (I doubt that)
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The nvflash method that I linked to will do the backup/restore. i think it's fairly experimental, so no easy app with a flashy GUI.
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An Android tablet is a whole Google experience product. Therefore, you should already have a gmail account. I mean, whats the point of owning an android product without gmail. Ok, once you set up your new tablet, you log into all google related products. That said, your email, location services, maps saves, buzz etc is synced to your new tablet. As I understand it, when you to the market, and search for an app you already had, the market knows that and allows a re-download and install, even for purchased apps.
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...eh... what about the most important part like your in-app data (game data, app setting)? please correct me if I am wrong, but based on the responses from others, and what I read from other websites, I believe it is not possible to back up that unless rooted.
Game data, correct; you cannot back that up to your gmail account. That would not get backed up without rooted backup programs. Still, I'd rather restart Angry birds, having known I didnt have to buy it like the iguys do. That is, if you do not want to root(which is very easy now, for any version of honeycomb). Being able to customize something completely requires some effort. This platform is not for someone who just wants a "perfectly easy user experience". But hey, with effort, comes reward. Like an actual memory slot, HDMI out, a dock with USB's, memory slot in the dock, and lots of battery life.
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Thank you for confirming. This is a big FAILED on Android. There is a reason why Apple stock is at an all time high.
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then return your tf and get a ipad. Itunes is.a lovely program. I love the fact that I need to install itunes on Every computers in order to intall apps. Amazing...
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then return your tf and get a ipad. Itunes is.a lovely program. I love the fact that I need to install itunes on Every computers in order to intall apps. Amazing...
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I do have an ipad, and work paid for my Tf. I like using the Tf for flash content and watching movies on the wide screen.
You do NOT need iTunes to install apps. Currently, you only need to activate a new ios device once with a computer. If you don't care about backups, you never have to connect it to any computer ever. Apps, music, movies can be purchased OTA, just like android.
Starting with iOS 5, coming in the fall, everything can be done OTA, including backing up of device settings, address book, calendar, email, apps, AND app data, all for free! No more activation with a computer.
I may seem like an apple fan. But in fact, I am just a fan of 'whatever works best".
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Game data, correct; you cannot back that up to your gmail account. That would not get backed up without rooted backup programs. Still, I'd rather restart Angry birds, having known I didnt have to buy it like the iguys do. That is, if you do not want to root(which is very easy now, for any version of honeycomb). Being able to customize something completely requires some effort. This platform is not for someone who just wants a "perfectly easy user experience". But hey, with effort, comes reward. Like an actual memory slot, HDMI out, a dock with USB's, memory slot in the dock, and lots of battery life.
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It is a fact that android is great for customization, and good for those that likes to take advantage of that. For the rest of us, who use tablets as a tool, rather than a hobbie, we want basic things to work without hacking. Backing up in-app data is a basic need in my opinion.
Another one is to prompt for a password everytime when buying paid apps in the market. It is just crazy to me that anyone can pick up your Tf and buy apps with the saved CC info. I don't think I am asking too much.
I always try on not to be a party p**per but also would like to make this debate as civilized as possible so no need to bash me if you found my doubts in a negative way.
But after spending all this time with the Nexus Player of Google, I found myself with the conclusion, why is worthy my time for any root for the device.
At least I have a goal on showing my step-dad that paying DirecTV (Nothing against DirecTV BTW, just want to save money) is not 24/7 cost-effective versus Google Play Service and popular streaming services.
Heck, I didn't even felt left out in terms that versus Apple TV, the Nexus Player is still short without service like WWE, Amazon, NFL, etc. I was happy with the service available as of the writing of this.
To tell you the truth, the exact moment when I read all the possibility for free TV and streaming needs with Kodi (XBMC), I realized that was exactly why I bought the Google Nexus Player on the first place, beside having an alternate set-top box instead of my lovely Playstation 3 and except for improvement on hardware level for Android TV (reboot capacity WILL BE so WELCOMED!) I don't see how rooting the device can be compared as rooting a Smartphone.
Also some needs that we find regularly on Android Smartphone can be requested to Google either by AOSP or direct feedback (I realize that Google might just ignore anyways) and I am pretty sure that future Android 5.0.x or 5.x version will be synonymous of improvements.
No, this is not ignorance and definitely not naive-ness, perhaps I need another point of view to better understand or see more benefits for rooting the device.
Again, please I created this thread as a informative and debatable spot for this topic, do not flame me and not flame each other if you don't agree with an specific opinion.
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I always try on not to be a party p**per but also would like to make this debate as civilized as possible so no need to bash me if you found my doubts in a negative way.
But after spending all this time with the Nexus Player of Google, I found myself with the conclusion, why is worthy my time for any root for the device.
At least I have a goal on showing my step-dad that paying DirecTV (Nothing against DirecTV BTW, just want to save money) is not 24/7 cost-effective versus Google Play Service and popular streaming services.
Heck, I didn't even felt left out in terms that versus Apple TV, the Nexus Player is still short without service like WWE, Amazon, NFL, etc. I was happy with the service available as of the writing of this.
To tell you the truth, the exact moment when I read all the possibility for free TV and streaming needs with Kodi (XBMC), I realized that was exactly why I bought the Google Nexus Player on the first place, beside having an alternate set-top box instead of my lovely Playstation 3 and except for improvement on hardware level for Android TV (reboot capacity WILL BE so WELCOMED!) I don't see how rooting the device can be compared as rooting a Smartphone.
Also some needs that we find regularly on Android Smartphone can be requested to Google either by AOSP or direct feedback (I realize that Google might just ignore anyways) and I am pretty sure that future Android 5.0.x or 5.x version will be synonymous of improvements.
No, this is not ignorance and definitely not naive-ness, perhaps I need another point of view to better understand or see more benefits for rooting the device.
Again, please I created this thread as a informative and debatable spot for this topic, do not flame me and not flame each other if you don't agree with an specific opinion.
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I dunno, i rooted mine because i really needed to have expandable storage. So i rooted for chainfires stickmount. So i could have all my movies on my external hard drive run through xbmc natively.
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I have not rooted mine but if i do it will be for the ex-storage as well.. i am at the point of not storing a lot of movies because they are almost all online for a fee or free if you go that way.. We watch a movie once or twice and that is the end of it.. So to add to your debate i don't at this point see why you would root this device.
Would like a reboot function..
Im sure someone will come up with some nice ways to use root.. give them a week or so lol..
The main current use for rooting in my home is support for PS3 & 4 controllers wirelessly, using stick mount & folder mount to store game data and kodi data on an external drive and the ability to modify xml to re-arrange the order of programs in the NP's leanback interface (kodi gets top billing). My daughters now have immediate access to over twenty very large installed games so far thanks to folder mount. I also store all my kodi fanart, cover art, cd art, etc on the external as it takes up so much space internally for my large media collection that kodi accesses from my nas.
There will be future uses for root as well, of course (there always is), but these were my immediate needs.
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The main current use for rooting in my home is support for PS3 & 4 controllers wirelessly, using stick mount & folder mount to store game data and kodi data on an external drive and the ability to modify xml to re-arrange the order of programs in the NP's leanback interface (kodi gets top billing).
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I recently rooted my NP, and I'm completely new to android and rooting. My main desire is to be able to get all of my sideloaded apps into the leanback interface, and to be able to rearrange the order and hide app icons I don't use. I've noticed by default Kodi RC2 appears in the leanback interface.
Do you have any tips for modifying the leanback interface in the way I've described?
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I recently rooted my NP, and I'm completely new to android and rooting. My main desire is to be able to get all of my sideloaded apps into the leanback interface, and to be able to rearrange the order and hide app icons I don't use. I've noticed by default Kodi RC2 appears in the leanback interface.
Do you have any tips for modifying the leanback interface in the way I've described?
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Since things are so new with the leanback launcher there hasn't been much time for any semi-automated tools/apps to be coded to accomplish what you want. Manually, however, is very doable depending on your desired time investment.
You can modify select sideloaded apps to make them show up on the leanback interface by uncompressing its apk, editing its manifest then re-compressing and re-sideloading. See this post: How to sideload XBMC/Kodi on Nexus Player. See also this helpful post from @zlexy : [Q] Launching Netflix From Within Kodi.
You can re-arrange the order of apps listed in the leanback interface by editing leanback launcher's database. See this post by @ariful : [Q] Rearranging Apps on Android TV Nexus Player.
Again, these methods are a bit labour intensive... it'll have to be that way until more devs start/finish coding for this brand new interface/device and/or for Google to release more customizable updates. Good luck.
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Since things are so new with the leanback launcher there hasn't been much time for any semi-automated tools/apps to be coded to accomplish what you want. Manually, however, is very doable depending on your desired time investment.
You can modify select sideloaded apps to make them show up on the leanback interface by uncompressing its apk, editing its manifest then re-compressing and re-sideloading. See this post: How to sideload XBMC/Kodi on Nexus Player. See also this helpful post from @zlexy : [Q] Launching Netflix From Within Kodi.
You can re-arrange the order of apps listed in the leanback interface by editing leanback launcher's database. See this post by @ariful : [Q] Rearranging Apps on Android TV Nexus Player.
Again, these methods are a bit labour intensive... it'll have to be that way until more devs start/finish coding for this brand new interface/device and/or for Google to release more customizable updates. Good luck.
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The last thing you said is exactly why I am resisting the temptation.
I am being fair with the fact that this is the first face of Android Tv and there is yet more to see and I am faithful that most feature that needs root for now, Google might have something on their sleeves, but they are waiting to see how many Nexus Player gets sold, specially after the holidays.
My mom and my step-dad were impressed with the Nexus Player so great, that my step-dad sold me the Google Chromecast as he wanted to have an experience on his own and he really didn't find the Cast environment hard but he liked the more controlled environment of the Nexus Player, so we are buying a second one for me and I will let him take the first one after the second arrives.
I think that is another example that rooting (again, my exception is that a proven restart method gets developed) for now is not needed in base of a normal usage and still haven't got the problem of storage (yet, I know the day will come).
Thanks to Unjustified Dev for the hard work in porting CM12 over to the M.O.J.O.!
A lot of people have been wanting to update their M.O.J.O. for various reasons. Some have had more trouble than others getting through certain steps and there were just some other lingering questions about apps that are compatible. Here are the steps I took have my M.O.J.O. running CM12 w/ Ouya Everywhere and resolve the overscan issue that some people (including myself) are encountering.
INSTALL & SETUP
1) After initial setup. Performed the official update
2) I did not have the Male to Male USB cable, there for I side loaded TowelRoot.apk (Version 1. Not version 3 from the main site.), and successfully rooted this way.
3) Installed SuperSU
4) After rooting and installing SuperSU I installed Flashify (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cgollner.flashify&hl=en), and backed up the kernel and recovery. Followed by, moving them to the SD card to avoid accidental delete.
5) Used Flashify to flash TWRP 2.8.2.0 recovery. Obtained image here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57508890&postcount=1
6) I placed the latest build, recommended gapps onto an sd card from the CM12 page. http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...52&postcount=1
7) I used "Flashify" to enter recovery mode and followed the installation instructions from the CM12 page.
8) After installation and setup I installed the updated OuyaApks I posted here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...6&postcount=51
9) Enable root – Go to Settings, About Tablet, click on “Build number” 7 times to enable developer settings, back to pervious screen, Developer Options, click on Root access and make selection. – *Thanks to mrbill1357*
10) Re-Install SuperSU
11) From here is up to you.
Common Q&A I received…
Q: Is Ouya Everywhere compatible with CyanogenMod 12?
A: Yes, build 1.2.897 currently.
Q: How do I get my Ouya Exclusive games back on the M.O.J.O.?
A: Backup the Ouya exclusive games on the Ouya and Restore them on the M.O.J.O. Ouya Everywhere will still recognize the game and work properly.
Q: Is there a fix for the overscan/underscan problem on the M.O.J.O.?
A: Yes, but not on the Jelly Bean build. General apps that manage overscan only work on Kit Kat or higher unless the application is specifically targeting a device. More detailed answer here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59418974&postcount=7
Q: Where can I get an onscreen keyboard where I don’t use the mouse to press each key?
A: Leanback Keyboard - http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...65&postcount=1
Q: How are you installing applications to the USB drive by default?
A: Xposed Installer (Alpha2) and XInternalSD
Q: Google Play says ‘XYZ’ isn’t compatible.
A: Most (not all) are actually compatible. If you don’t know how to reconfigure Google Play (like me) just side load the app using another market like “1 Mobile Market” or “Amazon Appstore”.
As I did with the Ouya running CM11 w/ Ouya Everywhere here is my initial assessment.
Experience.
- Stability! Despite the next section, both Jelly Bean and Lollipop needs a little tinkering and setup before you are ready to go, but on Lollipop it appeared to be a smoother process once installed.
- My biggest disappointment was FIFA15 not working after reading the articles stating the game was going to work with the M.O.J.O.
- Controller Supported Games tested so far that are working: (Vector Unit, Ouya, Sega, BandaiNamco) BBRacing, Neon Shadow, Riptide GP2, Sonic4 epII, SoulCalibur, Tennis in the Face, and Zen Pinball. (Note: Have not tested games that need mapping yet.)
- Emulators are working perfectly. Wasn’t expecting there to be any issues here.
- Media Apps. All that I have used on the Ouya carried over and work nicely on the M.O.J.O. I’m Currently using CBS, NBC, FOX NOW, Watch ABC, CW, PBS Kids, UVideos, History, WatchESPN, GINIKO TV, SPB TV, Viewster, YouTube, Netflix, Hulu, Kodi
Current Issues I’m experiencing.
- Ouya Everywhere works, but is unable to install the application after download from the discovery store. The user must exit back out to CM12 and install manually after download. Also Ouya games/apps that are downloaded but not installed by Ouya everywhere will maintain a dimmed tile on the play menu (Side loaded Ouya games/apps will appear normally). This may be due to the structure of the lollipop framework for I didn’t see any rights issues with superuser. Still investigating.
- YouTube for Google TV no longer works (even though it state compatible). You will lose this ability but regular YouTube works fine.
- Gameloft games don’t work on Lollipop! Games will install, but when starting all is displayed is the loading icon. I’m not sure on the reason for this (May have something to do with XInternalSD). Other non-Gameloft games include Skiing Fred.
- Periodic ejection of the SD Card –
Case 1) The SD Card port depending on its use will occasionally eject and re-establish without warning (not physically). This happens more often when some apps or associated files are moved to the SD card and/or with card slower than Class 10.
Case 2) If A USB Hub is in use on the 2.0 port in conjunction with some apps or associated files in use on the USB drive, the device will occasionally eject and re-establish resulting in the running app to crash.
- Some games experience overscan, some aren’t properly aligned, some experience both. Surprisingly this is only occurring with games. I have not run into this issue with any media applications. Another overscan app I’m trying is “UI Tuner” (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bassel.uituner&hl=en) where I can specify resolution and/or overscan correction per application, but the service currently doesn’t seem to have any effect. (Games I have trouble with are “Zen Pinball HD” (alignment) and “BB Racing” (Overscan))
Yep, this pretty much sums up the experience. Also, foldermount still has a glitch at least for me but overall much better than stock OS. I wish my Ethernet connection would work forfor playing online in Gameloft games.
Gameloft Games?
disorder78 said:
Yep, this pretty much sums up the experience. Also, foldermount still has a glitch at least for me but overall much better than stock OS. I wish my Ethernet connection would work forfor playing online in Gameloft games.
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So you have been able to play Gameloft game successfully on CM12? If so, which ones? I've been trying to get Asphalt 8 and NOVA3 among others.
Yea Ive been playing MC5, Asphalt 8, and Dungeon Hunter 5. Online for those games needs Wi Fi to work but my connection is poor. I can still play them just doing single player.
Cm5 works fine for me also.
Good how to post.
I have nova3 also but havent bothered.,. They dropped controller support last year.,... Crappy I know
regarding the overscan problems, has this affected the emulators or kodi in anyway, that is my only concern, and did you find a solution to the sd card constantly ejecting? did you get the same issue when connecting a usb drive or portable usb hard drive to the console?
that is a deciding factor if i will install lollipop on the mojo or not, i've also read that lolipop have performance issues on phones, does lolipop have issues on the mojo like lag or crashes?
Well from what I've experienced lollipop has a lot of performance issues on the MOJO. A lot of crashes and bugs when I launch apps or play games. I barley play games on my MOJO anyway because each time I try I can't, but at least the MOJO is not dead like the OUYA.
Still don't waste money and buy a MOJO : (
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Well from what I've experienced lollipop has a lot of performance issues on the MOJO. A lot of crashes and bugs when I launch apps or play games. I barley play games on my MOJO anyway because each time I try I can't, but at least the MOJO is not dead like the OUYA.
Still don't waste money and buy a MOJO : (
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From what i researched of the console in the past couple of days (which wasn't easy with so limited info out there for the console) and as a retro machine and the fact it's so cheap now it's pretty hard NOT to resist, with the Android shield tv not making a appearance in the uk i don't have the patience to wait around forever for any news or progress for something that may not ever release here.
disorder78 said:
Well from what I've experienced lollipop has a lot of performance issues on the MOJO. A lot of crashes and bugs when I launch apps or play games. I barley play games on my MOJO anyway because each time I try I can't, but at least the MOJO is not dead like the OUYA.
Still don't waste money and buy a MOJO : (
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I haven't had those issue, it's been pretty stable for me playing games and now as an IP camera machine.
Any chance you can make a better ROM
Hey I still enjoy this ROM over Mad Catz's stock version piece of sh*t . Lazy ass company Mad Catz. Get some software help from OUYA
disorder78 said:
Well from what I've experienced lollipop has a lot of performance issues on the MOJO. A lot of crashes and bugs when I launch apps or play games. I barley play games on my MOJO anyway because each time I try I can't, but at least the MOJO is not dead like the OUYA.
Still don't waste money and buy a MOJO : (
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I feel you man, I've been trying to work with cm12 for a while now and the lag is unbarable, chrome won't open and is stuck at the acept and continue screen and is completely unresponsive, I'm thinking of downgrading back to 4.2.2 so the mojo is at least useable, i can't play any games with the lag like this.
Also the good games in the play store show up as incompatible, so it makes it hard for me to actually play games that I want to play. These problems would never happen on PS3 or xbox 360.
the link of the OUYA APK is dead
HUYI said:
regarding the overscan problems, has this affected the emulators or kodi in anyway, that is my only concern, and did you find a solution to the sd card constantly ejecting? did you get the same issue when connecting a usb drive or portable usb hard drive to the console?
that is a deciding factor if i will install lollipop on the mojo or not, i've also read that lolipop have performance issues on phones, does lolipop have issues on the mojo like lag or crashes?
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The overscan has not affected emulators and defiantly not Kodi since you can re-configure the overscan in the video settings. I've hooked a 1TB drive to the 3.0 port with a Thumb Drive in the 2.0 port and 8GB micro SD card. All functioned perfectly. Since the SD card issue, I've used the SD card for just storage instead of installing apps, and have not run into the ejection issue since. Hope this helps.
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Here is another link location. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59461876&postcount=51
Dim icons
I found a hack for the dimmed icons w/ OuyaEverywhere and CM12.0 (I haven't tried CM12.1 but will do that on the new home theater MOJO).
Don't use Ouya DISCOVER to install games.
1.) Search for "Ouya apk download" and download the games you want. I found them @
www_totalouya_com /apps-and-games/
2.) IN THE OUYA LAUNCHER (or else the games/apps may not show up in the ouya menu) go to MAKE>PROGRAMS and launch your favorite file explorer (tested w/ ES file explorer).
3.) In the explorer, browse to where you downloaded the .apk's or your external drive where they are and click or select one and when prompted choose install.
4.) Lather, rinse, repeat.
5.) When finished installing .apk's go to your Ouya PLAY menu and find all your games non-greyed and playable from the PLAY menu even after closing Ouya or rebooting.
I found this after I would use Ouya DISCOVER to install games they would be playable and non-greyed immediately after install but would be greyed and unplayable after shutting down OuyaEverywhere or rebooting the MOJO and re-launching Ouya.
I wiped and re-installed CM12 and the OuyaEverywhere .apk's, tried installing 2 games (Sonic4 and BombSquad) from DISCOVER, rebooted and found the same result.
Then I installed more games using the method above, rebooted, and they were still in Ouya PLAY menu un-greyed and playable.
For games that are already installed via DISCOVER and are greyed an uninstall from game's menu and then using the procedure above to re-install SOMETIMES works (BombSquad=yes, Sonic4=no), but will still result in a greyed icon.
This worked for me in my situation and it's just another trick to try if you experience the same.
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Guyz,
I joined this forum a couple days ago. As an intro, I’ve been building and maintaining desktop computers since 1997 for self and family, and my wife’s salon and spa business website with old Frontpage. My main computer is a water-cooled Intel 6600 (I think) go stepping cpu and GTX 8800 vid card, six bay case, 800 watt PSU, dual boot with two removable drive bays, one for main drive and one for game drive, upgraded in 2008 when I was heavy into gaming City of Heroes. Built it for fun. Overclocked and all that jazz. I have a laptop but haven’t gone into it yet.
I got my first smartphone a year ago, Samsung Galaxy Core Prime. With only 8gb of storage It’s useless for as app krazy as I need to be and they are just useful apps like banking, shopping ect, no gaming. I was luving it till I ran out of room even with a 64gb SD card! I found you can’t move very much to the card and I don’t do photos and video much at all so I was very disappointed to say the least. The Samsung rep at Best Buy where I got the phone told me that the local Verizon store should have never put me in the phone to begin with as it’s considered a prepaid. My luck! Some of the sales peeps at the Verizon store are a joke. The dood wanted to wipe my phone until I stopped him. Like that was going to solve something! I was pissed he didn’t know any more than that about the phones he was selling! I went home looking to root the dang thing, hehe. So that’s what brought me here to begin with. I managed to install SKD and did a backup of the phone via Titanium Backup’s site instructions. I bought the pro version but it’s almost useless unless the phone is rooted (sweet app though from what I’ve seen). I found a root for it on this forum but stopped messing with it when I decided to go with the S7. I’d have to have help with the instructions anyway. The posters talked in advanced terms that I didn’t understand so…..
I gave the phone to my wife with Hangouts installed. We moved our landline to Google Voice a year or more ago so with it she can dial using it with wifi. Pretty kewl. There’s lots of Time Warner and Verizon hotspots around so she could use it pretty well where we live. Now trying to wean her off the little flip-phone, hehe. Still have to root it down the road to be useful though.
I went to a Samsung noob class at Best Buy and found that they had the S7 for $100 bucks for a two year contract and thought the 32gb would be plenty with my SD card. Wrong! Even my new S7 has a third of the 32gb space taken up with bloat and what few apps I’ve installed about 4, and I haven’t even installed about 10 or more apps I want. I’ve had it since Apr 1 and I need to root it already, dang! I know, no root available yet. Besides, I want to use the phone for a little longer to make sure it works well while still under warranty.
Now for my noob questions….and I did my homework as best I could. I’ve read all three pages of the threads on this forum looking for answers and can’t find them (I learned lots of other stuff while reading them so thanks guys for that). I’ve looked all over Google search too and just can’t put my finger on the issue.
I want to install apps directly onto my SD card and am looking for a way to do it. I was following a video on YouTube to install apps directly to my SD card via SDB. The video is titled “How to install Android Apps onto SD Card By Default” but the command “adb shell pm set-install-location 2” resulted in a Java error: “java-lang SecurityException: Package Android does not belong to 2000”. (much cussing followed)
Is this really a good, workable method or should I look in another direction? How do you guyz handle this situation?
Off Topic: Anyone using the Ceton 6 channel cablecard and extender system? I’m looking at that to get rid of these two Time Warner DVRs and haven’t quite figured out how to get the signal to older CRT TVs with an Xbox 360 as extender.
Much appreciation for your time looking at this harangue.
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Guyz,
I joined this forum a couple days ago. As an intro, I’ve been building and maintaining desktop computers since 1997 for self and family, and my wife’s salon and spa business website with old Frontpage. My main computer is a water-cooled Intel 6600 (I think) go stepping cpu and GTX 8800 vid card, six bay case, 800 watt PSU, dual boot with two removable drive bays, one for main drive and one for game drive, upgraded in 2008 when I was heavy into gaming City of Heroes. Built it for fun. Overclocked and all that jazz. I have a laptop but haven’t gone into it yet.
I got my first smartphone a year ago, Samsung Galaxy Core Prime. With only 8gb of storage It’s useless for as app krazy as I need to be and they are just useful apps like banking, shopping ect, no gaming. I was luving it till I ran out of room even with a 64gb SD card! I found you can’t move very much to the card and I don’t do photos and video much at all so I was very disappointed to say the least. The Samsung rep at Best Buy where I got the phone told me that the local Verizon store should have never put me in the phone to begin with as it’s considered a prepaid. My luck! Some of the sales peeps at the Verizon store are a joke. The dood wanted to wipe my phone until I stopped him. Like that was going to solve something! I was pissed he didn’t know any more than that about the phones he was selling! I went home looking to root the dang thing, hehe. So that’s what brought me here to begin with. I managed to install SKD and did a backup of the phone via Titanium Backup’s site instructions. I bought the pro version but it’s almost useless unless the phone is rooted (sweet app though from what I’ve seen). I found a root for it on this forum but stopped messing with it when I decided to go with the S7. I’d have to have help with the instructions anyway. The posters talked in advanced terms that I didn’t understand so…..
I gave the phone to my wife with Hangouts installed. We moved our landline to Google Voice a year or more ago so with it she can dial using it with wifi. Pretty kewl. There’s lots of Time Warner and Verizon hotspots around so she could use it pretty well where we live. Now trying to wean her off the little flip-phone, hehe. Still have to root it down the road to be useful though.
I went to a Samsung noob class at Best Buy and found that they had the S7 for $100 bucks for a two year contract and thought the 32gb would be plenty with my SD card. Wrong! Even my new S7 has a third of the 32gb space taken up with bloat and what few apps I’ve installed about 4, and I haven’t even installed about 10 or more apps I want. I’ve had it since Apr 1 and I need to root it already, dang! I know, no root available yet. Besides, I want to use the phone for a little longer to make sure it works well while still under warranty.
Now for my noob questions….and I did my homework as best I could. I’ve read all three pages of the threads on this forum looking for answers and can’t find them (I learned lots of other stuff while reading them so thanks guys for that). I’ve looked all over Google search too and just can’t put my finger on the issue.
I want to install apps directly onto my SD card and am looking for a way to do it. I was following a video on YouTube to install apps directly to my SD card via SDB. The video is titled “How to install Android Apps onto SD Card By Default” but the command “adb shell pm set-install-location 2” resulted in a Java error: “java-lang SecurityException: Package Android does not belong to 2000”. (much cussing followed)
Is this really a good, workable method or should I look in another direction? How do you guyz handle this situation?
Off Topic: Anyone using the Ceton 6 channel cablecard and extender system? I’m looking at that to get rid of these two Time Warner DVRs and haven’t quite figured out how to get the signal to older CRT TVs with an Xbox 360 as extender.
Much appreciation for your time looking at this harangue.
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Not to sound foolish, but just covering the bases....Are you aware you can move the apps the SD card from the system itself?
From your settings Select:
Applications > Application Aanager > select the app you downloaded. It'll show you the "Application info".
From there select "Storage", it'll show where it is stored (internal or SD card).
If it can me moved press "Change", then the pop-up comes up with "Change storage location" for "Internal" or "SD card", sounds like you'd want SD card.
It will show an "Export" screen, then you hit "Move" at the bottom.
The "Transfer" screen shows up, when it is done it'll show the the app page info page again listing "Storage" and show where you moved the app too.
That should help free up some space.
If that's not what you're looking for, then you could try the adoptable storage option, where it lets you use part/all of your sdcard for use as actual internal storage...but there's caveats to that...like you won't be able to use the card outside of the device....you really should read up on it before you attempt it for sure.. Though, I'd recommend trying the first suggestion to see if it suits your needs before moving on to this:
http://www.modaco.com/news/android/heres-how-to-configure-adoptable-storage-on-your-s7-s7-edge-r1632/
hope that helps.
I had already tried the first suggestion. I was able to move maybe five apps to SD. I also found a few videos on adoptable storage but the command like location2 didn't work. Some of those guys you can't understand what the heck they're saying, hehe. I'll have to try it again. I also used Debloater and didn't find even one app that I hadn't already disabled in Applications. There were 21 disabled before I did anything, probably by Verizon. Besides, there's not too much bloat on my Verizon. I had disabled nine apps myself so not too bad.
One problem I wish I could solve off topic is the Play Store apps I don't want keep showing up. One is Google Talkback. I can't find the app on my phone anyway and can't find anything on the net to get rid of it or hide it. Any suggestions on this issue? To this point almost half of my system storage is used. All my photos and documents have been sent to SD and then to Google Drive.
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I had already tried the first suggestion. I was able to move maybe five apps to SD. I also found a few videos on adoptable storage but the command like location2 didn't work. Some of those guys you can't understand what the heck they're saying, hehe. I'll have to try it again. I also used Debloater and didn't find even one app that I hadn't already disabled in Applications. There were 21 disabled before I did anything, probably by Verizon. Besides, there's not too much bloat on my Verizon. I had disabled nine apps myself so not too bad.
One problem I wish I could solve off topic is the Play Store apps I don't want keep showing up. One is Google Talkback. I can't find the app on my phone anyway and can't find anything on the net to get rid of it or hide it. Any suggestions on this issue? To this point almost half of my system storage is used. All my photos and documents have been sent to SD and then to Google Drive.
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probably old news, but thought I'd follow up, just in case....
The Talk back app is there, you just have to toggle system apps, otherwise it won't show.
Check out the screenshots attached....you'll find talkback in "Applications Manager" > "More" (top right) > "Show system apps".
Scroll down and you'll see it. From there, you can press on it and enable/disable at will.