The Viewsonic 10 inch "G-Tablet" discussed in the link below ($349 from Sears) has the Nividia dual core 1ghz Tegra 2 processor. It sounds like it has pretty decent hardware but lacking in software due to not being an official Google product and having a poor performing UI.
http://androidandme.com/2010/11/tablet/viewsonics-tegra-2-tablet-on-sale-now-at-sears-for-379/
Viewsonic G-Tablet specs include:
NVIDIA Tegra 2 Dual ARM cortex (1Ghz)
Capacitive Multi-Touch/Multi Tasking panel
10.1” 1024 X 600 TFI LCD Screen
512 MB RAM, Mass Memory 16 GB
Mini USB x 1; Full size USB x 1
1.3MP Front –Facing Webcam
Earphone x 1
Micro SD card slot
2 x 1 W speaker
Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n
G sensor/Light sensor
Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR
3500mAh/7.4V Li-polymer Battery Life 8-10 Hours
Slim design (267 x 173 x 14.3mm) Wt. 820 Grams
Buttons: Home/Back/Menu/Volume/Power
OS / Android 2.2
Headphone Jack
Built in Microphone
"Original information out of Viewsonic said this device would cost over $500, but Sears is selling a WiFi-only version that lacks the sim-card slot of the more expensive model. Some overseas models were also reported to include 1 GB of RAM, but the Sears unit is shipping with 512 MB RAM."
"The good news is that this tablet comes with Android 2.2, but that might be there the fun ends. This tablet was not certified by Google so it lacks all the Google Mobile Services including the official Android Market. Thankfully you can still sideload apps and alternative markets like SlideME."
You can buy the "G-tablet" here: http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00382001000P?prdNo=1&blockNo=1&blockType=G1 Use the zoom feature on the picture to get a really good close up of the device buttons and LEDs etc. I like the clean and simple look. Three buttons is nice too and the Wifi only will work perfectly with a tethering Nexus One (see it's not OT). At $380 it is ~$120 cheaper than the equivalent iPad.
I think this would be a good candidate for dev support to take advantage of the hardware to root and optimize for 10" display. If developers are interested in rocking this device I am definitely picking one up.
Do you think developers would work with this device?
At the pricepoint they are selling it for, this device would be appealing if we have developer support.
Let's face it, developer support will be the deciding factor for a lot of people, almost (but not completely) regardless of the hardware...
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
Let's also face it; it has nothing to do with the Nexus. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=824804
I might pick one up the next time I'm in there browsing the lawn mowers
Archos 101 for 299 is more appealing no ?
I happened to catch this today and looked at the specs and the price. I couldn't help but compare it to the Archos 101.
http://www.buy.com/prod/superpad-10.../q/loc/111/listingid/135638472/220692978.html
Anyone know more about it? Other than being OS 2.1, it seems to have some nice extras over the 101 like built in GPS and an Ethernet jack.
Features
Display: 10.2" TFT Touch Screen (1024 x 600 resolution)
OS: Android 2.1 Processor: ARM11 1Ghz - RAM: 256MB DDR2
Internal Hard Drive: 2GB Flash with 2 TF slots for expansion (supports MicroSD 32GB max)
Ports: 2 x USB 2.0, 2 x MicroSD Slots, Mini HDMI, DC Jack, 3.5mm
Headphone/Line-Out, RJ45 Ethernet
GPS Antenna and Stylus Included
is it captive touchscreen? i would guess not because if it was you wouldn't need a stylus.
Haven't seen this particular tablet before, but seen hundreds like it.
There's no way they can provide all those specs without cutting corners, which means the overall experience won't be great. Also, looking at the images, looks like they've stuck a custom launcher on top.
This is probably one of the reasons Google have withheld the Honeycomb source code. If they released it now, any fly-by-night startup can churn out poor quality, cheap tablets running HC. People pick these up based on the "great price" and then find out they're a PITA to use, with none of the smoothness, flair or ease of use that you'd get with a Xoom, Transformer or (say it quietly) an iPad. The opinion they then come to? "Android is rubbish."
jbradshw said:
I happened to catch this today and looked at the specs and the price. I couldn't help but compare it to the Archos 101.
Anyone know more about it? Other than being OS 2.1, it seems to have some nice extras over the 101 like built in GPS and an Ethernet jack.
Features
Display: 10.2" TFT Touch Screen (1024 x 600 resolution)
OS: Android 2.1 Processor: ARM11 1Ghz - RAM: 256MB DDR2
Internal Hard Drive: 2GB Flash with 2 TF slots for expansion (supports MicroSD 32GB max)
Ports: 2 x USB 2.0, 2 x MicroSD Slots, Mini HDMI, DC Jack, 3.5mm
Headphone/Line-Out, RJ45 Ethernet
GPS Antenna and Stylus Included
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hello,
Just got one.
This one only has 1 Micro Slot.
Positive:
Wifi, thouch screen and GPS function well.
Easy to install from the market.
I love the size because it's so much easier to use than an android phone.
It's an external GPS receiver
The display is fine.
Stylus is usefull because some web buttons are soooooooooooo small
Negative:
Power cable connection broke within 24 hours
USB is not activated/blocked for PC connection
Two hardware buttons sank in frame (still can use them)
Helen
its a tft, that means resistive touch...
My wife has one:
- speed is (much) less than the Archos
- battery life is down to 20 minute max (!) after some months
I read somewhere that the iconia a500 includes a Gforce grafic addon in the chipset .
Is it good?
What tipe of Gforce does it has?
What benefits and/or advantages do we take compared to other tabs?
The "GeForce" in the Iconia is an integrated ultra-low power part of the Tegra2 System-On-Chip which is at the heart of the tablet. It has 4 pixel shaders and 4 vertex shaders and is clocked at (I believe) 333MHz, although it could be tweaked by the tablet maker.
More details are available at the Tegra Wikipedia article
It's certainly not comparable to current PC discrete graphic cards; on the other hand, those run in the tens to hundreds of watts of power vs. the single- or sub-1 watt power envelope of the Tegra2 and similar portable systems. OTOH, it's plenty for 720p and 1080p video processing, and some of the games available have plenty of eye candy.
Thanks. I didnt find any information until you gave me that link.
Good explanation.
NVIDIA® Tegra™ T20 1.0GHz Processor
Android™ 3.1
Up to 1GB DDR2 memory
32GB
Up to 10 hours battery life
Integrated Bluetooth® and 802.11b/g/n WiFi connectivity
MicroSD card reader, mini HDMI connector and optional docking port
Integrated front (2M) and back (5M) mounted webcam
10.1" HD (1280x800) display
10 point multi-touch for an unmatched touch-screen experience
1 year warranty
Not sure how long they are running this but pretty sweet deal....
http://www.staples.com/Lenovo-IdeaPad-Tablet-K1-32GB/product_420152
Outta stock
Sent from my INFUSE powered by ZEUS
check your local zip-code to find stock. My area has 7 stores with them in stock
with amazon continue need to block root and a locked bootloader. I was wondering how many of you dont want to deal with the cat and mouse game and just get a Nexus Player instead.
http://www.google.com/intl/all/nexus/player/
Nexus Player
Processor: 1.8GHz Quad Core, Intel® Atom™
Imagination PowerVR Series 6 Graphics 2D/3D Engine
Wireless: 802.11ac 2x2 (MIMO)
Memory: 1GB
Storage: 8GB
Bluetooth: 4.1
Output Resolution: 1920×1080 at 60fps
USB: Micro USB Port
Ethernet Port: NONE
Fire TV
Processor: Qualcomm Krait 300, quad-core to 1.7 Ghz
Qualcomm Adreno 320
Wireless: Supports 802.11a/b/g/n
Memory: 2GB
Storeage: 8GB
Bluetooth: 4.0
Output Resoultion: 720p and 1080p up to 60fps
USB: USB Port
Ethernet Port: 10/100
mejdam said:
with amazon continue need to block root and a locked bootloader. I was wondering how many of you dont want to deal with the cat and mouse game and just get a Nexus Player instead.
http://www.google.com/intl/all/nexus/player/
Nexus Player
Processor: 1.8GHz Quad Core, Intel® Atom™
Imagination PowerVR Series 6 Graphics 2D/3D Engine
Wireless: 802.11ac 2x2 (MIMO)
Memory: 1GB
Storage: 8GB
Bluetooth: 4.1
Output Resolution: 1920×1080 at 60fps
USB: Micro USB Port
Ethernet Port: NONE
Fire TV
Processor: Qualcomm Krait 300, quad-core to 1.7 Ghz
Qualcomm Adreno 320
Wireless: Supports 802.11a/b/g/n
Memory: 2GB
Storeage: 8GB
Bluetooth: 4.0
Output Resoultion: 720p and 1080p up to 60fps
USB: USB Port
Ethernet Port: 10/100
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can be 100% sure this thing will be locked down just as hard as the Fire TV. Just look at the Chromecast.
Time will Tell
I'm curious to see how the nexus player develops
but right now I'm satisfied with the firetv I got XBMC on there and all my repos
so right now I'm good
I agreed, It probably locked bootloader and unless Google changed their mind letting us have a unlock bootloader = addicted flasher custom ROM. I might email some google developers and see what their response regard the bootloader status.
rbox said:
You can be 100% sure this thing will be locked down just as hard as the Fire TV. Just look at the Chromecast.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
While the idea of a stock google variation interface is appealing, the less ram, lack of hardwire ethernet and even less buttons on remote make it a significantly less attractive candidate IMO for XBMC, I'll stay with my fire TV (especially since I'm lucky enough to have 3 of them with root and CWM already w/blocked updates)
rbox said:
You can be 100% sure this thing will be locked down just as hard as the Fire TV. Just look at the Chromecast.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
100% sure? Google TV and Chrome products have been locked down. ChromeBook and Chromecast. This device is called a Nexus, and i cant name one Nexus device that is locked down. Even my nexus q was easily unlocked!!! Even though i can see them locking the device i disagree with the level of certainty you have (100%)
Skater4599 said:
While the idea of a stock google variation interface is appealing, the less ram, lack of hardwire ethernet and even less buttons on remote make it a significantly less attractive candidate IMO for XBMC, I'll stay with my fire TV (especially since I'm lucky enough to have 3 of them with root and CWM already w/blocked updates)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Less Ram: Good point, but one of the android forums mention this wont be a problem with the intel chip. Time will tell.
lack of hardwire ethernet: the fire tv has FastEthernet which is limited by 100, Wireless N gives fastethernet a run for its money and this device supports AC. Way faster than fastethernet.
I will be giving it a shot I think. Need an extra unit for the bedroom TV anyway. Will wait to see if it is rootable first though I think
Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk
Fire TV:2GB of RAM
Fine and dandy,but qualcomm sux for Reicast and Dolphin Emulator.
Also reboots when heavy 3D "three js" games are played. (it was an HD 3D racing game in three js)
New Google:1GB RAM
Not enough RAM so,it sux (if more than FTV original price),nuff said.
Graphics unknown status by Dolphin Emulator devs,does it handle Reicast?
What use is x86 for Wine to run Windows programs like PJ64 when you have a crappy limit of 1GB RAM?
Where is Google's Android TV with Nvidia Tegra K1 people were promised?
retroben said:
Fire TV:2GB of RAM
Fine and dandy,but qualcomm sux for Reicast and Dolphin Emulator.
Also reboots when heavy 3D "three js" games are played. (it was an HD 3D racing game in three js)
New Google:1GB RAM
Not enough RAM so,it sux (if more than FTV original price),nuff said.
Graphics unknown status by Dolphin Emulator devs,does it handle Reicast?
What use is x86 for Wine to run Windows programs like PJ64 when you have a crappy limit of 1GB RAM?
Where is Google's Android TV with Nvidia Tegra K1 people were promised?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is only one device released by google, nvidia could release their own android tv device along with htc, samsung, acer, asus, motorla, hisense.... Etc... Even though i doubt nvidia will release a box since they already sell an nvidia shield tablet (which doesnt support dts pass through). Even though im sticking with my firetv i am interested to see others join. Especially if this pushes amazon to properly support vc1, 24p, 4k, dts-hd/truehd, 802.11ac.
I don't think you guys are remembering exactly what "Nexus" means. It means do whatever you want to the device.
Yes the Nexus 7 was locked but they made it easy to unlock for us to mod. The whole nexus line is the play ground line if you want to mod and have fun with your device.
I for one am going to be jumping ship because quite frankly, Amazon has, and always will be, absolutely garbage when it comes to making anything interface related. Their app sucks, their web interface sucks, their amazon fire TV interface sucks, everything they design is garbage when it comes to UI.
I've had a blast with this device but with them locking it down...no bueno.
As per the wireless worry, it's 5GHz AC. If you're doing anything that's going to be able to tax THAT, having an ethernet cable isn't going to save you.
Ehh if its update blocked and rooted... Then its not locked down,right
mroneeyedboh said:
Ehh if its update blocked and rooted... Then its not locked down,right
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not exactly. Bootloader is still locked.
Despite my hatred of the small RAM size...
Since Nexus Player is x86 and it has an Intel Atom chipset,does that mean it utilizes the Houdini processing for running arm apps in the x86 architecture?
Still sucks because of crappy limit of RAM.
I saw that the price is going to be $99 like the Fire TV's original price.
Make a 2GB RAM version of Nexus Player for an extra $20.00 to make it more appealing.
Heck,replace them all with 2GB RAM for only $10.00 more cost.
retroben said:
Despite my hatred of the small RAM size...
Since Nexus Player is x86 and it has an Intel Atom chipset,does that mean it utilizes the Houdini processing for running arm apps in the x86 architecture?
Still sucks because of crappy limit of RAM.
I saw that the price is going to be $99 like the Fire TV's original price.
Make a 2GB RAM version of Nexus Player for an extra $20.00 to make it more appealing.
Heck,replace them all with 2GB RAM for only $10.00 more cost.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1 GB is fine. Unlike phones we wont be multi-tasking as much. The Nexus Player will mostly only worry about the active application which is why 1 GB will be fine. As for the CPU its an Inel Atom which has been shown to run as fast as a Snapdragon 801, for comparison sakes the FireTV uses a Snapdragon 600.
Its not exciting enough for me to jump over to it. My AFTV is doing everything i need right now, not to mention the lack of ethernet is a deal breaker. Unless wireless AC has come down quite a bit in the last few months, Im not ready to make that move.
Will have to wait and see how the Nexus Player performs. But one major drawback I see already is the limited storage just like FireTV but no true USB socket. Why would i want to mess with a OTG cable even before having to deal with a USB Hub or just a USB device. MicroUSB on a phone is fine. But on one of of this devices is stingy. The Nexus Player is going to have to really WOW me to get me over the lack of a regular USB socket.
Y314K said:
Will have to wait and see how the Nexus Player performs. But one major drawback I see already is the limited storage just like FireTV but no true USB socket. Why would i want to mess with a OTG cable even before having to deal with a USB Hub or just a USB device. MicroUSB on a phone is fine. But on one of of this devices is stingy. The Nexus Player is going to really WOW me get me over the lack of a regular USB socket.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
the specs are really irrelevant, this is the first entry into the android TV market (besides the ADT-1) sure, this box is specd a tad low and surely isnt going to be an enthusiasts dream machine, but im sure we arent going to see google release anything else anyways, what i do think well see is all the manufacturers incorporating android TV into their own players in the very near future (think a high specs "Samsung Galaxy Player" or something like "Sony Xperia Player") and if google is successful with their play services like music and video on demand like im sure they will be i think within the next year or so many TVs and things will be running android TV on them also. should be an exciting year for people who like android stb setups. they kinda failed before with googleTV or whatever it was but i think the timing is right this time and "android TV" is going to be the next big thing for internet media on demand lovers everywhere.
nhumber said:
the specs are really irrelevant, this is the first entry into the android TV market (besides the ADT-1) sure, this box is specd a tad low and surely isnt going to be an enthusiasts dream machine, but im sure we arent going to see google release anything else anyways, what i do think well see is all the manufacturers incorporating android TV into their own players in the very near future (think a high specs "Samsung Galaxy Player" or something like "Sony Xperia Player") and if google is successful with their play services like music and video on demand like im sure they will be i think within the next year or so many TVs and things will be running android TV on them also. should be an exciting year for people who like android stb setups. they kinda failed before with googleTV or whatever it was but i think the timing is right this time and "android TV" is going to be the next big thing for internet media on demand lovers everywhere.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Would love to see one with OTA Antenna & PVR built in. Would be the perfect machine. For now a rooted FireTV will be the best for the price.
I'll wait for the actual user reviews to start showing up before I make a final decision, but at this point I'm leaning toward no. The biggest drawback to the FireTV for me is lack of storage. 8G is just not enough, I will not buy another FTV game until an official firmware update includes support for USB drives. Just a wild guess, but I suspect the Nexus Player has this same limitation. I'm willing to wait a bit longer and pay a bit more for a different Android TV box with better specs and hardware support.