Will Different USB keyboard hosts work with each other - Windows 8 General

Not sure if this is the right topic, but there doesn't seem to be any other place I could put this.
So my brother lost his keyboard USB connector (it's wireless). If I were to go out and buy another one USB connector for the exact same keyboard, would it work? Sounds stupid, I know, but it's worth a try.
Thanks
-Kevin

Straight out of the box, no. In my experience wireless keyboards are paired with their transceivers and have no obvious sync button to pair them to another, there may be a way to do it in software or something which brings me onto:
But where are you going to get another tranceiver from? That would require buying another keyboard in which case just use the new one. Or don't lose USB plugs in the first place, mine stayed plugged into the PC at all times or when in transport was gaffa taped to the keyboard.
Bluetooth keyboards of course don't have this issue. Next keyboard I buy I am intending to be Bluetooth hopefully.

nicetaco said:
Not sure if this is the right topic, but there doesn't seem to be any other place I could put this.
So my brother lost his keyboard USB connector (it's wireless). If I were to go out and buy another one USB connector for the exact same keyboard, would it work? Sounds stupid, I know, but it's worth a try.
Thanks
-Kevin
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I would say that yes, it should work, provided it was the exact same keyboard.

stevedebi said:
I would say that yes, it should work, provided it was the exact same keyboard.
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I have seen 3 of the same model USB wireless keyboard working in one room without interfering. They hadnt been played with either, they were straight out of the box so somehow a keyboard is paired with its included tranceiver.
Thats not to say it can't be paired to another but mine has no obvious way of doing so.

SixSixSevenSeven said:
I have seen 3 of the same model USB wireless keyboard working in one room without interfering. They hadnt been played with either, they were straight out of the box so somehow a keyboard is paired with its included tranceiver.
Thats not to say it can't be paired to another but mine has no obvious way of doing so.
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I suspect the BT dongles connect to a certain keyboard BT MAC address. The same thing is true of any BT device; they have to be paired.

No matter what you will always have the issue that you can't buy the adaptor on its own anyway.

SixSixSevenSeven said:
No matter what you will always have the issue that you can't buy the adaptor on its own anyway.
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That's why I like the hp dongles that can pair with up to five devices...
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That's why I like Bluetooth devices where I don't have to pay for a dongle, can't lose it (it's built into my laptops, tablet, phone, and for that matter car), and don't have to give up a USB port to use a wireless peripheral...

If it is a Logitech device you may be able to pair it to a unifying receiver.
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So is there any way to use my g1 as a bluetooth adaptor in a pinch?

I know usb bluetooth adaptors are pretty cheap but I'm stuck without one at the moment and am curious if someone has worked out a way to use an android device as a usb reciever. I'll probably get one eventually but if there is already some method out there it could hold me over until then.
You are not being even slightly clear about what it is that you are attempting to accomplish. Yes, the DREAM has a bluetooth radio. You can use it to attach to certain supported bluetooth devices, like headsets.
lbcoder said:
You are not being even slightly clear about what it is that you are attempting to accomplish. Yes, the DREAM has a bluetooth radio. You can use it to attach to certain supported bluetooth devices, like headsets.
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I think he wants to use the G1 as a USB Bluetooth dongle for his PC. And if that is the case, I have no f'n clue if anything like that can be/has been done.

[Q] Attach an External Keyboard to NOOKcolor

Has anybody made this work already?
I want to use NOOKcolor as a writing device as well as a reading device. Among other things, that means attaching a keyboard.
The NOOKcolor doesn't have an internal Bluetooth radio, so it looks like the mini-usb port is the last resort. I see two options (correct me if I'm wrong here):
Attach a Bluetooth adapter to the mini-usb port via adapter, get the bluetooth keyboard drivers to work
Attach a regular usb keyboard to the mini-usb port via adapter, get the regular keyboard drivers to work.
Pokey9000 says it looks like NOOKcolor has hardware components that support USB On-The-Go protocol (enabling a slave device like NOOKcolor to act a host device for a peripheral like a keyboard):
pokey9000 said:
In my digging through datasheets, it seems both the CPU and the PMIC chips used in the Nook Color support USB OTG, but it depends on how B&N wired them up. Time will tell if it actually works.
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Has anybody had any luck verifying NOOKcolor's hardware setup supports USB On-The-Go mode? Any success getting a keyboard hooked up and working?
I'm still holding out for the Ti OMAP 3621 chipset to have the BT enabled in the future, though I'll be using it for a BT GPS dongle and wireless headset. Devs will be working on it soon, after a tear down is done on a development unit.
I don't have URL posting status yet, but here is a text list of what I've been able to find:
GigaOm-dot-com posted a good compilation article on attaching a keyboard to your Android phone, including links to hacking your own dongle. Search:
"How To Add a USB Keyboard to an Android Phone"
langtoninfo-dot-com has a usb to mini-usb dongle. I haven't verified it'll work. Search:
"OTG Cable Adapter Mini USB A-plug - USB A-Socket".
I would like to somehow connect a gamepad to the nookcolor.
cyanogenmod 6 (cm6) ?
Newbie question: I've seen a post elsewhere hoping that "cm6" will make bluetooth devices possible.
norkoastal said:
I think lots of folks are waiting for CM6 which might unlock the NC bluetooth stack offering mouse, wiimote, and keyboard goodness with it.
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Are we talking cyanogen-mod 6, which launched Dec 6?
What help does this provide Nook Color?
TG
TabulaGaga said:
Newbie question: I've seen a post elsewhere hoping that "cm6" will make bluetooth devices possible.
Are we talking cyanogen-mod 6, which launched Dec 6?
What help does this provide Nook Color?
TG
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Cyanogen develops highly-praised custom ROMs on a variety of android devices. There's a donation thread, hoping to convince their team to develop for the NookColor. There's hope that someone can unlock bluetooth capabilities on the NookColor, and when people need something like that done, they often think of a cyanogen ROM as being the answer.
right now in cm 7 bluetooth is working, can i pair a bluetooth keyboard to nook?
isn't usually keyboard is wifi not blue tooth or the keyboard has its own blue tooth dongle, how to attach the dongle to nook, or will it work without the dongle?
anyone can advice?
innosia said:
right now in cm 7 bluetooth is working, can i pair a bluetooth keyboard to nook?
isn't usually keyboard is wifi not blue tooth or the keyboard has its own blue tooth dongle, how to attach the dongle to nook, or will it work without the dongle?
anyone can advice?
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I saw someone tried to use APPLE bluetooth keyboard and it works.......
some devices do pair and work with bugs and limited range (1ft?)
innosia said:
right now in cm 7 bluetooth is working, can i pair a bluetooth keyboard to nook?
isn't usually keyboard is wifi not blue tooth or the keyboard has its own blue tooth dongle, how to attach the dongle to nook, or will it work without the dongle?
anyone can advice?
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W?
T?
F?
How do you end up replying to this six-month-old thread when there are DOZENS of threads on this topic, including a sticky? Please go browse the first page of the appropriate forum and you will find no fewer than three current threads on this topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=863
Taosaur said:
W?
T?
F?
How do you end up replying to this six-month-old thread when there are DOZENS of threads on this topic, including a sticky? Please go browse the first page of the appropriate forum and you will find no fewer than three current threads on this topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=863
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Gee, I guess same way you do You crack me up. I'll bet you're one of those people who press "reply to all" to tell everyone not to press "reply to all"
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Gee, I guess same way you do You crack me up. I'll bet you're one of those people who press "reply to all" to tell everyone not to press "reply to all"
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You have got to be kidding me....
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The irony...
The irony is, I'm in kind of a guilty place right now, so the necro-sequitur did make me feel a little bad about being dickish on the internet. Even attacking with pure stupid, sometimes you roll a 20.

USB Keyboard Support?

Picked up an A500 today after carefully reading through the documentation on Acer's support site as well as the user manual for mentions of USB keyboard support. It says implicitly that there IS support for USB keyboards (just not USB mice yet). However...I can't get a single USB keyboard to work (I've tried 3). Anyone tried this yet and gotten it working? I know the USB slot is working ok, because it reads a thumb drive just fine. Thanks!
meatlocker said:
Picked up an A500 today after carefully reading through the documentation on Acer's support site as well as the user manual for mentions of USB keyboard support. It says implicitly that there IS support for USB keyboards (just not USB mice yet). However...I can't get a single USB keyboard to work (I've tried 3). Anyone tried this yet and gotten it working? I know the USB slot is working ok, because it reads a thumb drive just fine. Thanks!
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I have had no problem with the one USB keyboard I've tried. It's a generic Apple clone from Deal Extreme.
No luck with Bluetooth keyboards though.
i could not get it to work with wireless USB keyboards but it did work with a dell USB keyboard.
it works with a logitech wireless keyboard
(I just realized that this is in the Dev section - mods, please move if needed!)
I tried a Dell keyboard, and it worked. One of the things I really hoped was going to work was the GTab case/usb keyboard combo ...the A500 fits perfectly in this case, even more snuggly than the GTab. I can't understand why it doesn't work.
meatlocker said:
(I just realized that this is in the Dev section - mods, please move if needed!)
I tried a Dell keyboard, and it worked. One of the things I really hoped was going to work was the GTab case/usb keyboard combo ...the A500 fits perfectly in this case, even more snuggly than the GTab. I can't understand why it doesn't work.
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I tried a cheap chinese case/usb keyboard combo and it worked but the a500 doesn't fit in...
USB keyboard
Got a case/stand for my vega for £20 of amazon which has a built in usb keyboard, tried it on the iconia works 100%
Actually I think having mouse support would be nicer, maybe in imminent 3.1 release.
KEyboard
I did not have a regular USB keyboard laying around so I tried a PS/2 using a PS/2 to USB adapter and worked perfect.
VitaZora said:
I have had no problem with the one USB keyboard I've tried. It's a generic Apple clone from Deal Extreme.
No luck with Bluetooth keyboards though.
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Just posted in the "Iconia A500 Accessories" forum... I tested the Logitech Cordless MediaBoard Pro for PS3 (bluetooth keybd) and it worked !
Something people may need to note: When I plug a keyboard in while the screen is off, or is locked, it does not work. If I first login, THEN plug in the keyboard (Logitech multimedia USB keyboard) it works great.
i tried some cheap micro keyboard+trackpad combo (about as wide as the tablet in landscape) & had issues. Only time it worked was when I was in the URL bar of the browser, "physical keyboard" showed as an input type option. Anywhere else it just sat plugged in. I may steal my dad's Mac BT keyboard since he doesn't use it. Will clash horribly though
I've got it running on a BT Keyboard/mouse device Works great... I've had issues with the headphones plug not stopping my music... (listen to Hard Rock at work and everyone hears it =(oops).. pull headphones and plug them back in... lots of really little niggles that need to be worked out... hopefully acer will find them all with the update next month!!!
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I've got it running on a BT Keyboard/mouse device Works great... I've had issues with the headphones plug not stopping my music... (listen to Hard Rock at work and everyone hears it =(oops).. pull headphones and plug them back in... lots of really little niggles that need to be worked out... hopefully acer will find them all with the update next month!!!
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Ohhhh! I've always wondered about that keyboard! Does the trackpad work? How's typing with that keypad?
Touch pad works great for pc and playstation 3... etc... but for the acer it does nothing... Arrows work to get from item to item typing works great... I believe an update will/can allow mouse...
FYI... this device comes with it's own bt usb adapter that is really weak however, when connected to a bluetooth device has decent distance.
threedfreek said:
Touch pad works great for pc and playstation 3... etc... but for the acer it does nothing... Arrows work to get from item to item typing works great... I believe an update will/can allow mouse...
FYI... this device comes with it's own bt usb adapter that is really weak however, when connected to a bluetooth device has decent distance.
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How's the hardware? Solid? Connectivity in and out? And how easy/difficult was it to pair? I've read that a lot of these no-name devices don't come with specific instructions on pairing.
rorytmeadows said:
How's the hardware? Solid? Connectivity in and out? And how easy/difficult was it to pair? I've read that a lot of these no-name devices don't come with specific instructions on pairing.
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Pairing was as simple (on my samsung epic) as searching for devices.
1. push the bluetooth button till the light blinks
2. Search for devices
3. type in a passcode on phone/device
4. type that passcode on the keyboard
I think this is how it was done... worked really well first time to my epic... easily connected on my a500 too. I love the keyboad it works with my entertainment pc that has sagetv on it so controlling the 47" from the couch is awesome.
edit: Hardware is really solid and the bt usb device slides into the keyboard... really convenient
I managed to pair with my Apple wireless KB but no love for typing.
ramy717 said:
i could not get it to work with wireless USB keyboards but it did work with a dell USB keyboard.
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ditto here.
peyotll said:
I tried a cheap chinese case/usb keyboard combo and it worked but the a500 doesn't fit in...
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Which one?
EVO Mobile
My cherry keyboard doesn't seem to run. Sad
DMESG says the following:
<6>[ 660.363583] usb 1-1: new low speed USB device using tegra-ehci and address 6
<6>[ 660.410104] usb 1-1: New USB device found, idVendor=046a, idProduct=0023
<6>[ 660.410487] usb 1-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0
<6>[ 688.559913] usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 6

[Q] Keyboard and Mouse for motorola defy

I just came across a video on youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fihLIwIZovY) but i would like to confirm here if any of motorola defy users are using some sort of keyboard and mouse (Bluetooth based HID) ? any market availability
I just bought a BT Keyboard with Micro-Usb Charging port. That way i dont have to carry two power cables.
I will report back when it arrives.
shorty66 said:
I just bought a BT Keyboard with Micro-Usb Charging port. That way i dont have to carry two power cables.
I will report back when it arrives.
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can you send me the links from where did you get it...even when it arrives do share how it works on defy.
I am using my trusty old Nokia SU-8W folding BT keyboard. It needed a "helper" app in 2.1 but runs perfectly in 2.2 without. Seem to be a few on ebay, though if you're in 2.2 I imagine any good BT keyboard might work. Though I would confirm before buying. I am on stock USA t-mo phone, 2.2.1 Has no mouse. Has a slide-out to stand the phone in (similar to the video), but has to be "loaded" from within the phone. ("Initiate pairing from phone"). In texting the return key actually does a "return", not send. It sits up high enough in the built-in stand to use the lower nav keys.
Copy & paste are the only things I'm still trying to sort.
Is there any keyboard in the market that also have mouse (trackpad) support which can be used on defy's browser..!!??
I bough it from ebay, here is the link.
I will report back if it works.
There are small keyboards with trackpads from the same company, too. I dont know if they work but as BT Mouses should work with 2.2 flawlessly i think these devices should work too.
As long as the device works with Android in general it should of course work with the browser too.
I think better use a PC.
Carnivoro said:
I think better use a PC.
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second that^^
no need to use them for such 3.7'' screen.
Ah, i forgot to report back.
The keyboard is working with my windows 7 pc but it is not working with my defy.
I get it to connect to the defy and show up as a connected HID device but it wont recognize any keyboard input.
I am searching for a stock rom with bt-keyboard support at the moment...
and "I think better use a PC." is just about the dumbest answer you could give.
Thanks for the update
I found here that the "freedom pro" keyboard works but when I price check, it's over $80, so no way!
supportforums.motorola.com/message/283612#283612
Its original one
http://www.store.motorola.com/Motor...olor_map,price,size_name&searchRank=salesrank
Logilink ID0070
Hi,
I bought a Logilink ID0070 bluetooth keyboard and it doesn't work. Neither in CM7, nor in CM9 I can type something on this keyboard. It is paired with my device but nevertheless it didn't want to do something else.
Is there already a solution to this problem?

bluetooth completely borked. fix it google!

I've been trying to get a BT mouse to work on my nexus 4.
i've now tried 2 different models, without success.
both are recognized, both pair and then both completely fail to work.
to add insult to injury, i tried one of those mice on a friend's samsung google nexus today -- also running jellybean -- and it worked perfectly.
could anybody running a BT mouse successfully SINCE THE LAST UPDATE (4.2.1) let me know what make/model they have?
EDIT: maybe they heard me ...
http://www.idigitaltimes.com/articl...jelly-bean-update-bluetooth-fix-exclusive.htm
i understand your frustration, but just one question.. why are you using a bluetooth mouse on a phone? tablet, understandable but phone?!
khanh1289 said:
i understand your frustration, but just one question.. why are you using a bluetooth mouse on a phone? tablet, understandable but phone?!
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take a nexus 4 + slimport adaptor + BT mouse + BT keyboard,
add an lcd TV with hdmi input (now common in hotels etc.),
and you have:
- a portable PC
- a decent home media centre (with armchair remote input)
- possibly a productivity tool for editing text/ photos etc. for which a touchscreen is too inprecise an input device.
understand now?
Instead of doing all that why wouldn't you just go wireless display and then use the phone as the remote at the sametime? Wouldn't that make more sense?
And AFAIK, bluetooth input devices weren't supported?
sorry, i typically use a laptop for those things. It would make a lot more sense btw. You can also use your phone as a bluetooth mouse/keyboard if you have a laptop that connects to a tv.
shotta35 said:
Instead of doing all that why wouldn't you just go wireless display and then use the phone as the remote at the sametime? Wouldn't that make more sense?
And AFAIK, bluetooth input devices weren't supported?
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???
a/ i haven't a clue what "go wireless display" means.
b/ "use the phone as a remote" ... for what exactly? and how does that help me?
c/ where has google stated that "bluetooth input devices weren't supported"? that's nonsense.
re-read my previous post and try to get your head around what i am trying to achieve.
theabsurdman said:
???
a/ i haven't a clue what "go wireless display" means.
b/ "use the phone as a remote" ... for what exactly? and how does that help me?
c/ where has google stated that "bluetooth input devices weren't supported"? that's nonsense.
re-read my previous post and try to get your head around what i am trying to achieve.
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Wow, you are quite "the absurd man". If you're trying to find help in a forum, it's best if you be a bit nicer. We're both trying to give you better alternatives to what you're trying to accomplish. To answer your questions...
A/wireless display technology is built in with the n4 and jelly bean and it's not yet widely available to most tv's yet but achievable with adapters.
B/so you don't have to carry around a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard. It helps you with 2 less things you carry (unless you're using a combo).
C/this one I can't back him cause I thought it is supported. Maybe it is broken, but I don't use it so I wouldn't know
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khanh1289 said:
sorry, i typically use a laptop for those things. It would make a lot more sense btw. You can also use your phone as a bluetooth mouse/keyboard if you have a laptop that connects to a tv.
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... perhaps more sense to you, not me.
i don't want to carry a laptop around when i already have a computer in my pocket.
and i'm not happy with touch input devices as they are too slow and lack the precision needed for heavy editing.
these are my (not i.m.o. unreasonable) requirements of the nexus 4.
khanh1289 said:
Wow, you are quite "the absurd man". If you're trying to find help in a forum, it's best if you be a bit nicer. We're both trying to give you better alternatives to what you're trying to accomplish. To answer your questions...
A/wireless display technology is built in with the n4 and jelly bean and it's not yet widely available to most tv's yet but achievable with adapters.
B/so you don't have to carry around a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard. It helps you with 2 less things you carry (unless you're using a combo).
C/this one I can't back him cause I thought it is supported. Maybe it is broken, but I don't use it so I wouldn't know
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getting the display to the TV is no problem -- i already have a slimport adaptor! why would i want to max out my wifi for that? it's bananas!
and i've already said that i don't want to use touch input as it's too slow and inprecise for my purposes.
my portable (igo stowaway) keyboard and notebook BT mouse are tiny (and inexpensive).
sorry to seem abrasive but you are not getting what i'm trying to achieve here.
khanh1289 said:
why are you using a bluetooth mouse on a phone? tablet, understandable but phone?!
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i've heard other people making the tablet/ phone distinction before and i'm not sure it's a valid one. the nexus 4 surely IS a tablet, albeit with a smaller physical (not resolution) screen. what else distinguishes a tablet? i use my N4 in exactly the same way i used my asus transformer and playbook.
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i've heard other people making the tablet/ phone distinction before and i'm not sure it's a valid one. the nexus 4 surely IS a tablet, albeit with a smaller physical (not resolution) screen. what else distinguishes a tablet? i use my N4 in exactly the same way i used my asus transformer and playbook.
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In your first post you didn't clarify that you were going to hook it up to a tv, so I assume that you were planning to connect a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard to your n4 and try to work from it's bit-smaller-than 5" display, which is highly unproductive.
N4 is technically a phone, not a tablet, by definition and specifications. I shouldn't have to explain the differences between a phone and a tablet (I'm sure there's a thread with detailed explanations)... just because it's running the same os doesn't mean it has the same hardware classification.
I understand that you want your N4 to replace your computer and the technology is very close, but not quite there yet... For simple tasks, it's good, but for anything editing, a laptop computer is highly more productive than a phone. Imagine you're doing something and you constantly receive phone calls and text messages.
Anyways, I will test this later when I get home and see if it's really broken. I know my Bluetooth moga game controller works just fine so I don't know why your mouse wouldn't.
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khanh1289 said:
Anyways, I will test this later when I get home and see if it's really broken. I know my Bluetooth moga game controller works just fine so I don't know why your mouse wouldn't.
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i'd appreciate that, thanks.
my BT keyboard works fine, but no mouse that i've tried.
Bluetooth is pretty much borked in all versions of Jellybean for all devices. Some things work and some things don't its pretty hit or miss. Version 4.2.1 added some drivers for game controllers but not much else so that's probably why those work and things like mice don't. There is supposed to be another fix coming in the next version but all that's known to be in there for sure is a fix for A2DP streaming.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/11/27/changelog-whats-new-in-android-4-2-1-jop40d/
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blo...ease-will-fix-bluetooth-a2dp-audio-streaming/
kzoodroid said:
Bluetooth is pretty much borked in all versions of Jellybean for all devices. Some things work and some things don't its pretty hit or miss. Version 4.2.1 added some drivers for game controllers but not much else so that's probably why those work and things like mice don't. There is supposed to be another fix coming in the next version but all that's known to be in there for sure is a fix for A2DP streaming.
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however, the (jellybean) samsung google nexus has no problem running a BT mouse, as i saw today.
i'd like to raise awareness of this problem with the N4 and get some more response from users, which has so far been sparse, probably because (as other posters in this thread have indicated) few see the need for a mouse.
for instance, somebody reported on another thread that they had been able to make a microsoft 5000 notebook mouse work. can anybody corroborate that?
i'm reluctant to shell out for yet another mouse considering that i'm currently holding 2 non-functioning ones.
not sure how much good it's going to do but i've opened an issue (#43918 Nexus 4 -- bluetooth mouse not working.) with the android development project:
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=43918&thanks=43918&ts=1359688071#makechanges
"bluetooth mouse not working on nexus 4 (jellybean 4.2.1)
i've tried 2 different models of bluetooth mouse. both are detected and pair, and are recognized in settings as input divices, but i get no on-screen cursor nor any mouse/ button input registed by the device. nothing.
the same mice work properly on a samsung google nexus."
i've had one response to my issue at google already.
could anybody else who is having this problem please add to that thread also?
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=43918&thanks=43918&ts=1359688071#makechanges
meanwhile i'm awaiting delivery of a microsoft notebook 5000 BT mouse which has been reported to work by another poster. i'll report back on that when it arrives
UPDATE:
at last i've found a mouse that works!
the microsoft bluetooth notebook 5000

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