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I have just bought it do u have the same issues

I have just bought my galaxy note n7000 kernel LA1 upgrading from captivate. Actually i am not that happy, other than the large high resolution screen i feel nothing is better, may be also gps. Captivate gps was ****.
First of all touch without using the pen is a disaster, i think everyone of u tried fruit ninja and discovered that this new pressure sensitivity is ruining everything, it is close to resisitive touch screens.
I dont know the reason but data conectivity over carrier is slower. I dont know the reason but i am sure 100% huge diffrence.
And there is no cyanogen mod for gt-n7000 which is sad
Moreover i cant root it except with a downgrade which is ****, i will be waiting for a stable CM9 or official ICS which of appears first

So you'd like everyone served to you on a silver platter?
If you're not happy with the phone, why don't you pack it up and send it to me? I'll bear the difficulty and hardships that you're experiencing with the phone.
Don't suffer anymore. Relieve yourself of the phone and send it to me. For the sake of camaraderie, I'll do it.
P.S. Just do the damn downgrade with PC Odin, root it, install Mobile Odin, upgrade to the latest stock ROM while keeping ROOT + CWM, and enjoy your phone.
afasseeh said:
I have just bought my galaxy note n7000 kernel LA1 upgrading from captivate. Actually i am not that happy, other than the large high resolution screen i feel nothing is better, may be also gps. Captivate gps was ****.
First of all touch without using the pen is a disaster, i think everyone of u tried fruit ninja and discovered that this new pressure sensitivity is ruining everything, it is close to resisitive touch screens.
I dont know the reason but data conectivity over carrier is slower. I dont know the reason but i am sure 100% huge diffrence.
And there is no cyanogen mod for gt-n7000 which is sad
Moreover i cant root it except with a downgrade which is ****, i will be waiting for a stable CM9 or official ICS which of appears first
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afasseeh said:
I have just bought my galaxy note n7000 kernel LA1 upgrading from captivate. Actually i am not that happy, other than the large high resolution screen i feel nothing is better, may be also gps. Captivate gps was ****.
First of all touch without using the pen is a disaster, i think everyone of u tried fruit ninja and discovered that this new pressure sensitivity is ruining everything, it is close to resisitive touch screens.
I dont know the reason but data conectivity over carrier is slower. I dont know the reason but i am sure 100% huge diffrence.
And there is no cyanogen mod for gt-n7000 which is sad
Moreover i cant root it except with a downgrade which is ****, i will be waiting for a stable CM9 or official ICS which of appears first
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firstly the pressure sensitivity only applies to the pen and not to touch, i have no problems at all playing fruit ninja or any other touch games without the pen.
sencond... just because the root exploit was fixed in a upgrade does not make the phone any worse, it simply means samsung are doing their job.
third... downgrading is **** why? u just flash a stock rom, root it, and then upgrade to a newer version than u are already running with root kept... so u have a more stable version than what you are running aswell as the added root functionality.
as for waiting for ICS or CM9 to be happy... there is NOTHING wrong with GB right now, sure ICS might add improvements and some new features but that doesnt mean that GB is not doing its job right now.
Go buy a nokia it seems like it would be more suited to you!

PoisonWolf said:
So you'd like everyone served to you on a silver platter?
If you're not happy with the phone, why don't you pack it up and send it to me? I'll bear the difficulty and hardships that you're experiencing with the phone.
Don't suffer anymore. Relieve yourself of the phone and send it to me. For the sake of camaraderie, I'll do it.
P.S. Just do the damn downgrade with PC Odin, root it, install Mobile Odin, upgrade to the latest stock ROM while keeping ROOT + CWM, and enjoy your phone.
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Lol I like what you did there
Further more, if he searched a little bit he would find that he does not need to downgrade if he does not like it that much, just flash one of the pre rooted latest GB ROMs and then CF Root, that's it!

afasseeh said:
I have just bought my galaxy note n7000 kernel LA1 upgrading from captivate. Actually i am not that happy, other than the large high resolution screen i feel nothing is better, may be also gps. Captivate gps was ****.
First of all touch without using the pen is a disaster, i think everyone of u tried fruit ninja and discovered that this new pressure sensitivity is ruining everything, it is close to resisitive touch screens.
I dont know the reason but data conectivity over carrier is slower. I dont know the reason but i am sure 100% huge diffrence.
And there is no cyanogen mod for gt-n7000 which is sad
Moreover i cant root it except with a downgrade which is ****, i will be waiting for a stable CM9 or official ICS which of appears first
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Try before you buy to avoid tears and sniffles.
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Someone send this poor guy a box of tissues.
Seriously though, you clearly did not do your homework before buying the phone or any research before making this post.
As already stated, rooting is easy. Not so hard to flash a different rom.
And again as already stated, touch is not pressure sensitive, you may want to have your fingers and or head examined.

The fail is strong with this one.
Seriously... depending on the availability of root exploits for root when it's a SAMSUNG and there are 34583428342 other paths to root? dafuq?

Why everyone here is talking like that as if i insulted manester united in manchester. I have problems with the new mobile and was asking if anyone have the same thing. If not u can answer no everything is ok it is working brilliant. That simple. About the touch screen i dont know the reason of not working good but i will post a video tommorw maybe someone solve that problem for me. About rom i dont like changing alot. I like to stick to a good one so i will be waiting for ICS in any form. As if i change now i will have to change again when ICS is released. Thanks help in my first topic
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afasseeh said:
Why everyone here is talking like that as if i insulted manester united in manchester. I have problems with the new mobile and was asking if anyone have the same thing. If not u can answer no everything is ok it is working brilliant. That simple. About the touch screen i dont know the reason of not working good but i will post a video tommorw maybe someone solve that problem for me. About rom i dont like changing alot. I like to stick to a good one so i will be waiting for ICS in any form. As if i change now i will have to change again when ICS is released. Thanks help in my first topic
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Download the pre-rooted ROMs that can be flashed using PC ODIN.

youtube.com /watch?v=Uon-2HnzQ7k&feature=youtu.be
in real it is more apparent, notice while I am moving my finger quickly some times it stops responding, but using the pen it is non stop. Moreover the pen creates a perfect straight line while my finger makes a true zigzag, i know my finger will not make a straight line like the pen but the zigzag is so strong.
++ stylus pen work perfectly on my brother galaxy S plus 9001 while it nearly doesn't respond on my note, one out of five moves work

If I will go for a custom rom now which one do u advice, are ICS stable for daily use now??

afasseeh said:
If I will go for a custom rom now which one do u advice, are ICS stable for daily use now??
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Ics stunner is amazing. I have been running it for 2 weeks with tablet ui and I don't care about official ics. I am pleased with my current rom.
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chadrick.7 said:
Ics stunner is amazing. I have been running it for 2 weeks with tablet ui and I don't care about official ics. I am pleased with my current rom.
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Hope you dont end up with a brick.

PoisonWolf said:
Hope you dont end up with a brick.
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works
well i dont know but straight lines are working with my fonger also pressure responce is working with finger. When u draw lines with smooth finger touch they are darker but when u put more oressure they become lighter in s memo

I have found the perfect website you can go to for help with your issues:
www.idontknowcrapaboutgreatphonessoishouldtrademybadassnoteforapalmpre.com
Click "thanks"
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Did anyone saw the video
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As per what has been hinted at by others, AOSP, Cyanogen Mod and AOKP are all available for the Note, and all work more than well enough to be considered stable, daily-usage ROMs. Head over to the Android Development section and choose the one you like. I am with ICS Stunner (AOKP-based) after having tried AOSP and CM. My initial plan was to use a vanilla ICS ROM until official Samsung release (to get all S-Pen features and FM Radio back -- yes I do use the FM thingie ), but I'm actually not so sure anymore... I'll probably stay with ICS Stunner at least until we can get tablet UI on Samsung ROM
As to the pressure sensitivity issue, all works well on my side. I haven't tried Fruit Ninja, but didn't have any issue with any other app/game I've tried.

I am currently running Criskelo's ICS V2, which is very good in my opinion.
However, at this precise moment in time I would not advise a new Note owner to flash any ICS ROM due to the risk of a hard brick due to bugs in the currently available ICS kernels.
I've had my Note for 6+ months now, and I'm fully aware of the risks involved, so I'm not going to go back to Gingerbread myself, but given the official update is likely only a few weeks away, I would advise anyone else who hasn't already flashed ICS to wait.
Once official ICS drops, the kernel source will also drop and the ICS development scene will become a lot safer!
Regards,
Dave

You should have at least posted the link nicely without us having to copy, paste and fix the link.
Anyway, have you tried doing the same with other app like s memo? Also, the game is not designed for you to blindly swipe across the screen.
Do you have screen protector installed?
For data connection, what is the speed difference during file transfer? Did you try with 2 devices side by side? It could be that your carrier is currently having problem.
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Is it worth flashing?

So guys I was asking myself "is it worth flashing?". Why you ask? Well because if I took a look in the development section and it doesn't look like any of the current roms out are stable and they all seem to have many know issues. So I would like to know what you have flashed and how you like the experience compares to stock rom?
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I have flashed a bunch of roms on this tab. Most of them are stable now. ALL of them running ics are better than the honeycomb touchwiz that comes pre installed. The only caveat I say to you, is that the camera still isn't working on the roms I've been using as my dailies. (Aokp and Nightlies) If that's a deal killer for you, then stay away from the ics builds for now. But I can tell you as someone who has a 2 year + old Droid Incredible running ics AND this tab running ics, I can never go back. Its just THAT good. Especially on this tab where it Truly shows off the big improvements on the OS.
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I'm running a stock mod but the difference is pretty huge. No more constant reboots or hangs. Much faster too. Not using any special kernels either. The ROM I'm using has working GPS and camera. Haven't touched any roms with broken cam/GPS.
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GorillaPimp said:
I'm running a stock mod but the difference is pretty huge. No more constant reboots or hangs. Much faster too. Not using any special kernels either. The ROM I'm using has working GPS and camera. Haven't touched any roms with broken cam/GPS.
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Can I ask which ROM you're using? (I thought there wasn't an ICS ROM with working camera...?)

He never said nor implied that he was using an ICS rom...

Ah OK. (Just realised you're right)

I'm using overcome 2.3.1. It's not ics. It's pretty nice. Went from multiple daily reboots to 3 or 4days of uptime. I use it a lot for reading, browsing, netflix, remote mgmt of servers and it holds up well. I bought 3 Samsung docks and have it hooked up to my home theater for music via hdmi, on my nightstand (ditched the tv in the bedroom) and another in my office. I wouldn't have been able to keep it without a rom. Give it a shot. Take your time and read up, it's pretty simple. I'm kinda pissed they made such a great tablet and put such a horrible buggy os on it.
I saw all the comments here suggesting to throw a rom on it to improve performance but I didn't put much stock in it. It's not an exaggeration. You have to ditch the tw launcher too. I'm using Go's tablet edition. I guarantee you will not go back to stock. I chose overcome because it's really stable. No point trying to escape bugs and using a buggy rom.
Getting off my soapbox now. Good luck with whatever you decide.
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Yes that was one of my major concerns of ics. I'm running dark sides evolution 2 beta 3 on my sgs2. But when I came here to read about the 10.1 ics versions I was kind of sad. Because like it was said the 10.1 is awesome but cannot be used on stock w/o mods. I really just want to get on a stable release that doesn't have this issue where you could only charge your tab with the wall charger. I need a different kernal.
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GorillaPimp said:
I'm using overcome 2.3.1. It's not ics. It's pretty nice. Went from multiple daily reboots to 3 or 4days of uptime. I use it a lot for reading, browsing, netflix, remote mgmt of servers and it holds up well. I bought 3 Samsung docks and have it hooked up to my home theater for music via hdmi, on my nightstand (ditched the tv in the bedroom) and another in my office. I wouldn't have been able to keep it without a rom. Give it a shot. Take your time and read up, it's pretty simple. I'm kinda pissed they made such a great tablet and put such a horrible buggy os on it.
I saw all the comments here suggesting to throw a rom on it to improve performance but I didn't put much stock in it. It's not an exaggeration. You have to ditch the tw launcher too. I'm using Go's tablet edition. I guarantee you will not go back to stock. I chose overcome because it's really stable. No point trying to escape bugs and using a buggy rom.
Getting off my soapbox now. Good luck with whatever you decide.
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It's use go launcher too, but what I'm curious about is what you're using for server management? And app or just the browser? I have both cpanel and directadmin panels on my servers and just been using the browsers.
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With Task v14, I feel that the Galaxy tab is vastly improved from the stock bloatware.
I don't really care about ICS on the Galaxy. Task 14 is so good, I don't see ICS as improving much. I have ICS running on HP Touchpad and Kindle Fire, right now.
it's nice, but IMHO not really worth all of the hype over an optimized GB ROM. YMMV.

Task v 14 is really great, highly recommend it over any ics roms.
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hucesar1017 said:
Yes that was one of my major concerns of ics. I'm running dark sides evolution 2 beta 3 on my sgs2. But when I came here to read about the 10.1 ics versions I was kind of sad. Because like it was said the 10.1 is awesome but cannot be used on stock w/o mods. I really just want to get on a stable release that doesn't have this issue where you could only charge your tab with the wall charger. I need a different kernal.
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Yeah I'm not even using any special kernel and have no probs charging.
I'm actually happy with my stock rooted GS2. The only problems I've had are few and far between and solved with a reboot.
I looked at all the major roms on the dev page and Overcome seemed to be the safest stable rom.
MichaelMcC said:
It's use go launcher too, but what I'm curious about is what you're using for server management? And app or just the browser? I have both cpanel and directadmin panels on my servers and just been using the browsers.
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I use pocketcloud and terminal apps to access vnc, rdc and ssh sessions. I'm not using browsers at all except for some app/service config panels that require it and even those I mainly use remotely via vlc or rdc.

hucesar1017 said:
So guys I was asking myself "is it worth flashing?". Why you ask? Well because if I took a look in the development section and it doesn't look like any of the current roms out are stable and they all seem to have many know issues. So I would like to know what you have flashed and how you like the experience compares to stock rom?
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I think your info may be outdated there are a few very and very fast roms out there. I use galaxy task rom and it is very smooth really like night and day over stock.
Perhaps what might come off as unstable are the continuing work by the devs to keep improving the rom
Cm9 is excellent as well despite camera not working
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That's the thing I believe camera is a biggie . So I guess I'll try one at a time see which one sticks .
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hucesar1017 said:
That's the thing I believe camera is a biggie . So I guess I'll try one at a time see which one sticks .
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Yeah I couldn't over the camera and gps problems either. The way some people dismiss them bothers me.

hucesar1017 said:
That's the thing I believe camera is a biggie . So I guess I'll try one at a time see which one sticks .
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To be clear only the ICS rom have the camera issue. The HC roms lile galaxy task dont
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my $.02: My use-case for my tablet is almost entirely at home. I have the Wi-Fi only model, so I don't do a lot of "mobile" stuff with it. I have a Galaxy Nexus phone which I generally carry everywhere.
What I thought: As a techie, I want everything to be fully working just because, and as a result I cannot accept a tablet without a working camera!
Real Life: I use my tablet for IM, web browsing, reading comics, and playing games, generally around the house or while commuting. That's actually it. Number of times I did a video chat on my tablet: 1. Number of times I actually wanted to video chat on my tablet: maybe 2. Because I work with a Galaxy Nexus all the time, having the same OS & ROM on both devices is honestly nicer / easier / more lazy-friendly. Its honestly pretty slick to have Chrome syncing across my computers, my phone, and my tablet.
I recently tried to go back to Honeycomb since I once again thought "gee maybe I should use the camera on my tablet". Honeycomb just feels like ICS with training wheels on it I really don't like it as much. This probably as much a placebo effect as anything. Also, the camera isn't as good as my Galaxy Nexus or my actual camera, and I feel like a douche holding my tablet up to take a picture. Would being able to Skype on my tablet be cool? Yes. Would I use it that often? No.
I'm going back to AOKP damnit. I can deal with a non-working camera for a while.
And GPS??? My device doesn't have mobile data, so it really doesn't matter to me that much, even though I thought it would.
Bottom Line: You can back all your stuff up, and you're not out anything, so why not try it?

DivinityCycle said:
my $.02: My use-case for my tablet is almost entirely at home. I have the Wi-Fi only model, so I don't do a lot of "mobile" stuff with it. I have a Galaxy Nexus phone which I generally carry everywhere.
What I thought: As a techie, I want everything to be fully working just because, and as a result I cannot accept a tablet without a working camera!
Real Life: I use my tablet for IM, web browsing, reading comics, and playing games, generally around the house or while commuting. That's actually it. Number of times I did a video chat on my tablet: 1. Number of times I actually wanted to video chat on my tablet: maybe 2. Because I work with a Galaxy Nexus all the time, having the same OS & ROM on both devices is honestly nicer / easier / more lazy-friendly. Its honestly pretty slick to have Chrome syncing across my computers, my phone, and my tablet.
I recently tried to go back to Honeycomb since I once again thought "gee maybe I should use the camera on my tablet". Honeycomb just feels like ICS with training wheels on it I really don't like it as much. This probably as much a placebo effect as anything. Also, the camera isn't as good as my Galaxy Nexus or my actual camera, and I feel like a douche holding my tablet up to take a picture. Would being able to Skype on my tablet be cool? Yes. Would I use it that often? No.
I'm going back to AOKP damnit. I can deal with a non-working camera for a while.
And GPS??? My device doesn't have mobile data, so it really doesn't matter to me that much, even though I thought it would.
Bottom Line: You can back all your stuff up, and you're not out anything, so why not try it?
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i feel exactly the same, i just migrated to AOKP last night, and so far the benefits of it being a lot "zippier" is good. I do a lot of typing and multitasking viewing pdf and docs etc is a better experience on ICS than HC.....
music? camera? i have my handy SGS for that.......
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What ggps problems? I just got a good fix (8 used) inside! I'd say the gps is working pretty well

Rom Addict But...Is this too good??

I've had the Note 2 now since the release in the UK and all I can say is perfection! The barrery life is the best I have ever had! Normally end day at work still on 80-90% (My One X would be dead!)
It is smooth as silk everything works as it should! Its got the latest software already on there...
Im normally the first to root and custom rom and get rid of everything to keep pure google..but with this I dont even feel like putting on a custom rom simply worried that it may ruin it!??? Anyone else keeping away from modding their device or is it just me??

Yep. Dont see the need so far.
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I can understand you, but I rooted the fcuk out of it as soon as I got it! Too many hexcellent apps out there that demand root

Have to agree.
I've not even bothered rooting it yet, which I'd normally do on day 1, and I'm now on day 8.
I will still root at some point though, mostly for the root only apps though.
Note 2 - Android how it should be done!
Regards,
Dave
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Pure perfection does not exist but like most here I guess there is general concensus that this is truly an amazing device we got. Though to myself how boring something that works as good as that. Anyway I use omega and also perseus kernel lovely if you want to try OC an its limit though its fast enough or even beter under volting and this furthermore seems to show how great the HW is.
Things I just dont like is the high 320 dpi funny on tab 7.7 it was too low now here to big for my taste....so waiting with hope to see changes there dreaming about paranoid with full pen support.....
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I haven't modified or put any custom ROM every in my life and won't do it on my Note II as well.
The simpler it is, the better it is.
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+1 I agree fully, this is the best out of the box Samsung device i ever had. Do not feel the need to root at all, let alone flash a custom rom wich atm adds nothing to what we allready have. Kudoz to Sammy in this case

yep agree, no need for a Custom Rom on this. It has everything you need.
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For the moment I don't think root is necessary (i can live with titanium apps not being restored, can be manually done but without its data).
I think I will root only if development breaks through the split screen multitasking to add more apps into it.
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I rooted it but after using a couple different roms I don't see any need for them. I really only wanted root to be able to remove anything I really didn't need and to be able to use any apps that require root. I might eventually use a custom kernel but that's pretty much it.

I have no desire to root my Note 2 at this time as it does everything I want from it and does so seamlessly.
Once I have my T-Mobile provided Note 2 I may well keep the international/unlocked version to toy with new ROM's and root apps. Selling this unit OTOH puts $$ back in my pocket. To be decided later. My daily carry Note 2 will remain factory stock unless a firmware update reduces its versatility or usability.

I will get my Note2 later today and the first thing i will do is root the baby. If it was only for Adfree Android and some other indispensable applications.
I will see about aftermarket ROM's later. It will depend on the usability. And if I hear you guys talking about I think that won't happen for a while.:laugh:

Rooted 15 minutes after I opened the box. I needed to transfer data from my s3
That's the only thing that is badly needed to this android. Anything else can be avoided even from a flash addict like me. ( a flash my nexus 7 twice a day to keep me sane )
There are some useful mods like skip track , call recording etc. I am with wanam 1.1 and everything looks great.
Rom is a choice for note 2 but root is necessity for android.
Come on, you are in xda , you hold an android device , chainfire already gave root and you want to stay unrooted?
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I have bricked my first Note because of flashing addiction first and because of trying to get rid of some of its shortcomings like slow Contact app scrolling etc.now that the new one adressed all of the issues I was complaining from I didnt even see a need for a root so far, the stock ROM seems to be sufficient enogh.

I root all my devices, usually for AdAway, hate ads when browsing. Titanium backup pro as well for back ups. Usually custom roms and kernels bring user fixes to shortcomings in OEM software.
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Yea this phone is really amazing. My only gripe atm is no polaris office which I was sorta expecting. Hopefully soon they will release it. But having to switch from S3 to Note2 I am really satisfied.
With s3 i had to custom rom it on the first day. With this I dont mind the bloat, cause i still have tons of free memory.
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I rooted mainly to swap ext sd with int sd so I can install more stuff
also i cant live without the 15toggle & titanium
Its still as smooth & stable with root. I think samsung has outdone itself this time. This product is just perfect.
The battery life is awsome. it feels like its twice better then Note1.

I gave my wife my SGS III yesterday and got the Note II. I am loving it, right off the bat it does seem smoother than the S3. With that said, I immediately rooted it and installed Omega. Not so much because it needed it, more because I'm pretty much obsessed with the removal of bloatware and apps that I don't use.

toofank said:
I rooted mainly to swap ext sd with int sd so I can install more stuff
also i cant live without the 15toggle & titanium
Its still as smooth & stable with root. I think samsung has outdone itself this time. This product is just perfect.
The battery life is awsome. it feels like its twice better then Note1.
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Did that work well???
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I haven't rooted mine. I was also a ROM addict on the S I and S II.
But with this TW build I don't really see a need yet. It's really good. I know a lot of people prefer the stock experience, but I personally like many of Samsungs additions.
And yeah, battery life is amazing. Not having to worry about battery life at all is probably the greatest feature of this phone.

Worst JB any company will ever release.

I am using note from last 1 year. Used GB for six months then upgraded to ICS.
I am always FAN of Stock TW look.
But this time: SAMSUNG crossed limit by releasing worst, ugliest, laggy, slowest JB firmware.
When I tried JB leak in FEB. I thought that this is not ready and samsung will work on it and will clean it by little more makeup.
But bloody sammy released it as it was. I mean no cleanliness, no smoothness, no quickness.
I can feel the slow response of apps opening and closing which I never felt in ICS.
Even battery drains like HELL.
I am reverting back to ICS. I like quickness of ICS. I am not a heavy user.
I disable few apps or bloatware I don't use and ICS works awesome.
Your views.

Maybe you do not know how to make clean flash...
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JB is good for me..
Battery , smoothness, stability( with latest kernels)..
<<<The CRACKS on my NOTE shows how often it KISSES the FLOOR>>>

its very smooth in my note.even app transitions are awesome but there is lag in gallery.

Agree, battery drains like hell, many lag, hot issue... i will never buy a sammy device again
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JB is running better than ICS on my note. Its butter smooth and faster. Job done well samsung!
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Sv: Worst JB any company will ever release.
shahkam said:
Dude stop bashing their work go make your own software if you find theirs that ****ty... Needless to say you have the solution you said ics runs better for you.
Well use ics stop bashing and quit making useless threads like these.
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Stop bashing about it? He paid for it!

Agree i am saying the same. Ics release was way better than the jb release.
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Kinda harsh language, but I must agree:
- it's slow, at least Germany stock (maybe because I did only factory reset, still Ultimate ROM is incredibly smooth)
- S Note is a joke (laggy and for the reason below)
- S Memo is missing and there's no Page widget - I looked at my Note's box, there's a neat picture of the phone there, it has 3 Memo widgets on it... WHAT THE HELL SAMMY? Why you delete a feature you advertise on box without giving any substitute?
- battery life is worse, on ICS using WiFi didn't make any significant changes to usage time, on JB WiFi drains battery like crazy
- its general appearance is bad (ugly icons, switches etc but it matters the least)
- it's just quick mashup port of Note II's/GSIII's ROM, but that's the biggest advantage of it - airview, multiwindow, ink effect and other stuff work without sweat
I'll be using Ultimate for some time, but I'll probably return to ICS, few features I like doesn't compensate for stuff I miss or hate

Gambolputty said:
Kinda harsh language, but I must agree:
- S Note is a joke (laggy and for the reason below)
- S Memo is missing and there's no Page widget - I looked at my Note's box, there's a neat picture of the phone there, it has 3 Memo widgets on it... WHAT THE HELL SAMMY? Why you delete a feature you advertise on box without giving any substitute?
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Bloody idiots. They miss ******* simple things.

the multitask and battery life for me makes all the difference, jb is a keeper they made touchwizz my favorite. The additional mods, with clean install and no recovery of app+data do the trick for me.
maybe you guys have rogue apps or something. Check you logcats
cm is really really awesome to, my fav vanilla flavour, but those touchwizz features wootwoot. I get same free mem after bloatware remove on touch as on cm.

Agree with this thread worst software update ever. Intead it should be considered as a downgrade in software quality very much unsatisfied this time
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shahkam said:
Dude stop bashing their work go make your own software if you find theirs that ****ty... Needless to say you have the solution you said ics runs better for you.
Well use ics stop bashing and quit making useless threads like these.
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It's true, I am the software.

It's not sooooooo bad after all, battery really drains fast but the ROM is quite normal i think.
I really like TouchWiz because we have some features like Multi-Window, S Note, Fully integration with the S Pen, etc.
Always wanted to use pure Android(CM and others) but i would miss the way to organize the apps on the Drawer as i want and they aren't non-Wiping ROMs, once that all these features are included on a ROM i would be free from Samsung ****ty updates.
Better an resonable Jelly Bean than no Jelly Bean.

Gambolputty said:
Kinda harsh language, but I must agree:
- it's slow, at least Germany stock (maybe because I did only factory reset, still Ultimate ROM is incredibly smooth)
- S Note is a joke (laggy and for the reason below)
- S Memo is missing and there's no Page widget - I looked at my Note's box, there's a neat picture of the phone there, it has 3 Memo widgets on it... WHAT THE HELL SAMMY? Why you delete a feature you advertise on box without giving any substitute?
- battery life is worse, on ICS using WiFi didn't make any significant changes to usage time, on JB WiFi drains battery like crazy
- its general appearance is bad (ugly icons, switches etc but it matters the least)
- it's just quick mashup port of Note II's/GSIII's ROM, but that's the biggest advantage of it - airview, multiwindow, ink effect and other stuff work without sweat
I'll be using Ultimate for some time, but I'll probably return to ICS, few features I like doesn't compensate for stuff I miss or hate
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Totally agree with you. Now I really think that its not only me who finds this ROM ugly.

Have you all moaners done full backup and wipe?
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bhatia.mani said:
Totally agree with you. Now I really think that its not only me who finds this ROM ugly.
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I actually like the appearance of the new icons/weather themes/wallpaper, that's why I was so looking forward to this release. But I agree with you guys, it sucked. When I bought my Note with 4.0.4, the impression it I got from it was the same as the Note II with TW UX gave me: smooooooth! I updated my Note officially through Kies, so I'm sure nothing went wrong in the 'flashing' process. I've also done a factory reset. But everything else lags except for home screen transitions, it's kind of a disappointment. S Note, Camera, Contacts take at least 4-5 seconds to load. Music player has stutters in music playback. There's a delay when using the S Pen.
But now I've moved onto a custom ROM, and it's keeping me really happy.

It's 50:50
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jakethesnakeuk said:
Have you all moanersthe done full backup and wipe?
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First of all I don't care about back up. So forget about it.
Secondly, I was using ICS with philz kernel. I did all 3 wipes and then wiped preload which says now install newROM.
Then I installed original ICS using PC odin. Then I updated JB using KIES. Then I reset internal memory by using factory reset.
If you think that this process is not good enough: then please come to india, new delhi and do it for me you moaner.
Hope every one who wants to say that full wipe do the trick. Please read this post.
My brother bought iphone 5 2 weeks back. I was the one who was insisting that he should not by iphone rather by android because of few OS limitation of bluetooth and no card slot.. But luckily he bought IPHONE. And now I feeel guilty that why I was insisting on android if this the quality.
I bought sony xperia for my father with A7 cortex processor which is lower than what note has. But guys believe me. Smoothness of that phone is way beyond our note. We cannot even expect that from crappy sammy.
I will never buy sammy again. Apple or sony will be the preference

bhatia.mani said:
My brother bought iphone 5 2 weeks back. I was the one who was insisting that he should not by iphone rather by android because of few OS limitation of bluetooth and no card slot.. But luckily he bought IPHONE. And now I feeel guilty that why I was insisting on android if this the quality.
I bought sony xperia for my father with A7 cortex processor which is lower than what note has. But guys believe me. Smoothness of that phone is way beyond our note. We cannot even expect that from crappy sammy.
I will never buy sammy again. Apple or sony will be the preference
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Agree with you bro. same story with me but the difference is that my friend bought an iphone.. Although it is not big as note but the plus point is that it never lags for me the next change is gonna be a iphone 5s
Ps: when you paid $600 or Inr 32000 for a phone you atleast expect that the phone should not hang.. I am very much disappointed with jellybean
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Is stock good enough for you?

I've been playing with this tablet for about a day now and I must say, I don't think I've ever had the feeling that I didn't need to Root for any reason, but this tablet just works so well out of the box that I'm not missing anything in terms of performance or applications.
I was just wondering if anyone decided to forgo the flashing/rooting/roming process because the tablet just works.

Amen brother. So good out of the box... Just tasted Google Play Music as well... Wow! Almost don't even need Nova Launcher with stock JB 4.3 haha I might not bother rooting this time round unless something really uber comes along

Well I do think it is very nice out the box. Smooth and snappy. So, yes stock is good enough for me right now. I have root and recovery, so if some custom rom comes along and it looks interesting, I may try it out. However, until that image is released, everybody is going to be pretty close to stock. The only thing I don't like is the toggles/tiles don't work like they should. I tap the wifi tile and it opens the settings for wifi, not turn it on. Not a big deal tho...

Nope. I need the custom re-boot menu and quiet hours and I can no longer live without Pie.
THe stock worked perfectly tho. I had no issues at all.

Gotta have root for the six axis app so I can game it up with my ps3 c controller
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Grievance said:
Amen brother. So good out of the box... Just tasted Google Play Music as well... Wow! Almost don't even need Nova Launcher with stock JB 4.3 haha I might not bother rooting this time round unless something really uber comes along
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I ended up installing Action Launcher just to have those shutters and widgets

DaemonAshra said:
I ended up installing Action Launcher just to have those shutters and widgets
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Action Launcher doesn't count in this discussion, personally. It's basically good enough to kick the tar out of launchers on just about any framework you'll ever find (although it does look a tad out of place on my otherwise Sense-running HTC One).
Mostly yes, but I still root because I enjoy using Greenify and there are some other behaviors that require more permissions than stock Android will give us. The inclusion of the app permission manager though is quite wonderful.

mssam said:
The only thing I don't like is the toggles/tiles don't work like they should. I tap the wifi tile and it opens the settings for wifi, not turn it on. Not a big deal tho...
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Long hold. They reversed the behavior from 4.2. Short tap = settings, Long tap = toggle on/off. Quite honestly, I prefer it in the 4.3 way better. I really don't turn off WiFi or Bluetooth, and having to go settings -> wireless -> bluetooth to get to the bluetooth settings was a bit much.

I root for the couple of apps that need it, but I run stock otherwise. Did on my original N7 as well.

No stuck sucks..... waste...

aka420 said:
No stuck sucks..... waste...
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Thank you for that brilliantly enlightening post.

I am happy with my stock setup right now. I am unlocked and rooted though. I also tried a couple of kernels but I am back to stock kernel. Same with ROMs. I will continue trying new ROMs but will keep using stock for now. My ultimate ROM will be a stable/clean ROM with Tablet UI.

aka420 said:
No stuck sucks..... waste...
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Thanks. You are a shining example of conversational excellence.

Stock rom will be good enough until all if not all issues are resolved with the CM. Till then, ijust have my N7 rooted for titanium back up and other misc apps that require root.

Stock is good enough for my needs, but I installed CM anyway just to get that little extra
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Running stock + Root + Extra Power Menu
At least right now that is good enough since its so quick. I'd like to try out other roms or have a good kernel but going to wait til more testing is done with what is out there and get some of the bugs worked out as I've tried them but get mixed results for performance and stability. Right now stability is key and performance is very good as is stock, but more is always better, in due time

I find I miss the little things CM had. For example when downloading. In stock the arrow stays there constantly lit, it doesn't do the animation.

Thing is, it might look and feel smooth, but it can always get better. Rooting and custom ROMS just simply allow the further enhancements, customization, smoothness, and potential to save battery life. I really don't see any reason not to Root/use custom ROMS for any case as long as your comfortable with the process. Maybe if the device was used for business i could understand that maybe, but for personal usage why not take advantage of whats out there instead of settling for less? It's not like it voids your warranty anyways when you can always restore it to stock before turning it in.

To be honest I cant see how anyone can live without some of the great things that require root
Linaro/03 optimized kernels
Overclocking
PER APP DPI
Trickstermod
Rom Toolbox
Lux autobrightnes (If you read books on this puppy it's a must)
Fully featured equalizer - seriously this needs to be universal on all devices
SD Maid
Titanium backup
Custom toggles, and AOKP ribbon controls
Custom boot animations
...Stickmount (don't you need root for this?)
And thats just off the top of my head stuff that I personally use all the time. So I guess most of that stuff could be run on a "stock" setup, but where is the fun in that. What is the point in investing in suck an awesome dev device, and not loading up on the fantastic tools that have been made possible through the hard work of XDA's members?
McKay91 said:
I find I miss the little things CM had. For example when downloading. In stock the arrow stays there constantly lit, it doesn't do the animation.
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Try a different browser, dolphin is awesome, and shows you tons of details when you download files. The notification icon itself is very unobtrusive.

Except that recent versions of dolphin have made it horribad. I found it so slow as to be unusable and have moved to chrome. Dolphin also force quits on my phone all the time for no apparent reason. Used to love it.
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