Hi, I hope you're well.
Please allow me to ask my stupid question of the day.
I am a T-Mobile post-paid customer on contract, and I am using a LG Nexus 4. T-Mobile will likely start having LTE soon, so I was wondering if that will affect the Nexus 4 in any way, positively or negatively (probably not negatively, but as I stated, this is a stupid question).
Thanks!
Vic
probably not. lte capabilities were disabled in the .48 baseband which came with the 4.2.2 update.
Hard to say, as the Nexus 4 does not "officially" have LTE. Google disabled the limited LTE connectivity in the 4.2.2 update as the N4 was not approved by the FCC for LTE.
Unless Google refiles, I wouldn't expect any official LTE updates.
But, that doesn't mean you can't try out the older radios (that still have LTE) as some people have had success using them (no sensor issues or voice/sound issues).
Thanks for the replies!
I'm aware of the LTE capabilities being disabled by Google. Even if I use the older radios, will the LTE speed be significantly faster than the default HSPA+ speeds I've been experiencing?
Thanks!
Vic
VicVicVicx said:
Thanks for the replies!
I'm aware of the LTE capabilities being disabled by Google. Even if I use the older radios, will the LTE speed be significantly faster than the default HSPA+ speeds I've been experiencing?
Thanks!
Vic
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yes..
My N4 is being returned, but I did get 16mbit down yesterday on HSPA+, which is amazing to me considering my home caps out at like 12 I think. Frankly, considering the marginal real-world gain you would see on LTE, I think the phone is probably better off not using that LTE antenna.
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Not necessarily if you were me and getting 29mbps down and 9 up on H+ then you really wouldn't tell too much of a difference esp since we don't have All the necessary components for complete lte
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XupModz said:
since we don't have All the necessary components for complete lte
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Please please please stop saying that.
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chrisrozon said:
Please please please stop saying that.
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You can't handle the truth
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cesar521 said:
yes..
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Great contribution. The LTE speed test someone posted the other day from T-Mobile LTE was significantly slower than my HSPA+:42 speeds in Chicago. The upload was faster but download was not.
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Maybe they will introduce the nexus 4lte in the Google io.... Which is what all of us have now
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joshnichols189 said:
Great contribution. The LTE speed test someone posted the other day from T-Mobile LTE was significantly slower than my HSPA+:42 speeds in Chicago. The upload was faster but download was not.
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Where in Chicago do you get 42 HSPA+? I've only managed to hit 22 max. downhill with help from the wind.
RavenII said:
Where in Chicago do you get 42 HSPA+? I've only managed to hit 22 max. downhill with help from the wind.
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You have to use the new apn, "Fast.T-Mobile.com" and change ipv4 to ipv4/ipv6. But the rest of the apn is the same as epc.tmobile.com.
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Where in Chicago do you get 42 HSPA+? I've only managed to hit 22 max. downhill with help from the wind.
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42 is the theoretical throughput, once you account for real world inefficiencies and data reserved for network services, 22 is a fantastic result.
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It really depends your area, on average lte will be faster especially upload. In most major cities LTE will probably smoke HSPA. The most I ever hit with HSPA was 18down 2up and lte was 56down 35 up in Toronto.
HSPA is no slouch though, just the upload is rough. If you upload a lot LTE is a must.
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XupModz said:
Not necessarily if you were me and getting 29mbps down and 9 up on H+ then you really wouldn't tell too much of a difference esp since we don't have All the necessary components for complete lte
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LTE pings are usually low. so stuff pops up faster on the phone compared to hspa+. You would not see much difference when downloading something because the down speeds aren't too different. As far as picture uploads are concerned, they will happen much faster w/ LTE.
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I just found a spot near my local Publix where I was getting 3 and 4 bars of signal with WiMax, which I rarely ever see in my city.
I speed tested and was consistently getting 16-18mbps down and around 3mbps up.
I'm curious to see how that compares with what everyone else is getting on Sprint's 4g network.
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Impossible. Must have been wifi.
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Or he was sitting on the tower. Jk bro. You have some screenies?
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Sprint's 4g is pretty good here in Cincinnati. I get about 6-7mbs down and 1 up at my apartment with one bar, but when I go outside I get about 10-12mbs down and 2 up with 3-4 bars.
Here is a screenshot. I wasn't on wifi, I was in the middle of a parking lot.
I wasn't getting 3mbps up here, but I have before.
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mine has definitely improved within about the last two weeks, as well! I'm getting about 15-20% stronger signal and speed
Not only that, even 3G improved in my area.
hp420 said:
mine has definitely improved within about the last two weeks, as well! I'm getting about 15-20% stronger signal and speed
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rasengan82 said:
Not only that, even 3G improved in my area.
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This is good to hear. Hopefully Sprint is staying good on their word and largely improving their 3G this year.
Especially looking forward to the Galaxy Nexus and LTE, even though I'm not in one of the cities getting it first.
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Here is a screenshot. I wasn't on wifi, I was in the middle of a parking lot.
I wasn't getting 3mbps up here, but I have before.
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No you haven't. Wimax used to be capped at 1mb now it is capped at 1.5mbps. Clearly your screen shot would have shown the 3mbps upload had it really occurred.
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Wimax used to be capped at 1mb now it is capped at 1.5mbps.
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Thanks for the info.
Thats nice. wish i had some wimax in my city.
david279 said:
Thats nice. wish i had some wimax in my city.
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and we never will LTE ruins Wimaxers lives
I've gotten more than 1.5 many times here in Atlanta...idk who told you there was a cap....
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Maybe all the business users are moving over to versions lte mifis. In and around Philly I get 8-12 mbps. Don't forget that still have clear kiosks pretty sure well still connect to them as well
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No you haven't. Wimax used to be capped at 1mb now it is capped at 1.5mbps. Clearly your screen shot would have shown the 3mbps upload had it really occurred.
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for this were true I wouldn't be getting over 1.5MB/s on a regular basis..... that's right I said MB not mb.... Please check your info before posting it because what you stated is absolutely incorrect!!
This is what I get at my home using wimax
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hp420 said:
for this were true I wouldn't be getting over 1.5MB/s on a regular basis..... that's right I said MB not mb.... Please check your info before posting it because what you stated is absolutely incorrect!!
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Not necessarily, wimax upload speeds were capped. No official word that it's been removed though or made higher above 1.5. Any of you claiming higher have a screenshot?
http://m.techcrunch.com/2011/06/09/sprint-to-bump-upload-speeds-on-their-wimax-network-up-by-50/
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Acontreras86 said:
This is what I get at my home using wimax
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Wow, that's great, I wish I got that at my house. I max out at maybe 1MB/s at home.
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This is sitting on the middle exit in Conway Arkansas ....
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Sorry guys, wrong forum... I will post one from my ns4g
Way slower though...it's on vhGomez latest ICS with speedy 5 kernel
I want to get a Nexus 4 but am curious to see if AT&T supports 21mbps HSPA+?
Yes.
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I want to get a Nexus 4 but am curious to see if AT&T supports 21mbps HSPA+?
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It supports the 21mbps speeds of hspa just wont support there 4g LTE
Careful though... Just because at&t might offer it somewhere doesn't mean you'll have it in your area. I'm in the Chicagoland area, arguably one of the largest markets in this country, and all they offer here is hspa 15 because of their LTE focus. So you might not want to focus your decision on the fact that hspa 21+ is technically possible through at&t.
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If you have a choice, I'd go with T-Mobile. Their 3G is WAYYYY faster than ATT's 3g...
... at least here in california... i get like barely 1MB down IF IM LUCKY with ATT...
...when I throw my sisters T-Mobile SIM in my nexus,, its at least around 2-3 MB/sec!!
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If you have a choice, I'd go with T-Mobile. Their 3G is WAYYYY faster than ATT's 3g...
... at least here in california... i get like barely 1MB down IF IM LUCKY with ATT...
...when I throw my sisters T-Mobile SIM in my nexus,, its at least around 2-3 MB/sec!!
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Here in SoCal and I'm on AT&T and I average about 5-7Mbps, highest I've gotten is 10Mbps.
I get 12-18 down on Solavei which uses T-Mobile
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Yes. The LG Google Nexus 4 supports both HSPA+ 21/42 and compatible with AT&T.
Fastest I have seen on my phone with Att is 13.2mb/s
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Careful though... Just because at&t might offer it somewhere doesn't mean you'll have it in your area. I'm in the Chicagoland area, arguably one of the largest markets in this country, and all they offer here is hspa 15 because of their LTE focus. So you might not want to focus your decision on the fact that hspa 21+ is technically possible through at&t.
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The numbers don't work like that. HSPA:+15 is either 21mbps or 42mbps. The 15 is not the Mbps cap of the network.
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The numbers don't work like that. HSPA:+15 is either 21mbps or 42mbps. The 15 is not the Mbps cap of the network.
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Well, according to this link, even at&t refers to the number of the hspa+ revision as it's top speed, so if you could show me something explaining why that's not correct, they would be great.
http://www.fiercebroadbandwireless.com/story/att-21-mbps-hspa-available-80-3g-footprint/2010-11-18
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where I live we don't have 3g or 4g on t-mobile. we are forced to go with at&t or straight talk.
Just to show tmobile speeds here in metro Detroit
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Well, according to this link, even at&t refers to the number of the hspa+ revision as it's top speed, so if you could show me something explaining why that's not correct, they would be great.
http://www.fiercebroadbandwireless.com/story/att-21-mbps-hspa-available-80-3g-footprint/2010-11-18
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joshnichols189 is correct. Here is why:
HSPA-15 on your phone refers to Network type, not the max download rate. See the codes posted here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2029722
Download max on HSPA-15 (HSPA+ or 4G) are 42.2, 21.1, and 14.0
Download max on HSPA-10 (HSPA or 3G) is 7.2
For more on the true max speed, see this Wiki page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Speed_Downlink_Packet_Access
Ivizoid said:
Here in SoCal and I'm on AT&T and I average about 5-7Mbps, highest I've gotten is 10Mbps.
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b vs B. If both of you stayed true to b = bit and B = byte, the highest you've ever gotten was only 1.25MB/s.
can anyone confirm all the posts online are not needed to get hspa+ on ATT with nexus 4? links like below say you need to have ATT do something with a fake IMEI since it couldnt detect mine and then set custom APN settings. My status bar says H but about this phone says HSPA+:15 for mobile network type. My phone when simw as inserted automatically set wap.cingular and all that and when i use speedtest.net app the ping comes back but fails to test the up and down speed. Any help is appreciated, i figure they people on this forum would know best.
PS. it wont let me post links until 10 posts. pm for links if needed.
Hey guys, I was just wondering if someone could help me out because I'm kinda ocd about seeing it as H+ instead of 4G for HSPA+. Thanks!
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HSPA+ isn't 4G.
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HSPA+ isn't 4G.
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Coming from sprint it sure as hell is. 1mb is 4g to them. Anyway I get to 35mbps on hspa+ so I really don't get what your saying.
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Fataldesain said:
Coming from sprint it sure as hell is. 1mb is 4g to them. Anyway I get to 35mbps on hspa+ so I really don't get what your saying.
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I agree but the 3G/4G terminology is a bit screwed. The current "3G" release is 100x faster then the original 3G release. Yet the current 4G release is only 2.5x faster then the current 3G release.
Which is why Android refers to it as H. It should probably stay that way.
But I get 22Mbps on my N4 on DC-HSPA, which isn't as high as you, but I know how you feel. But I live on a continent that's completely GSM/HSPA/LTE, so I never really had the CDMA 3G problem.
Is there anyway to enable 3G/wcdma only after rebooting??
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Will the nexus 4 be able to get it ?
Actually I set up the new lte APN
I forgot where i got it from but
I went into phone info
(*#*#4636#*#*)
And took the lte setting.
I did this bc I'm in a testing city(NYC)
I noticed a slight increase in data speed.
But can anyone confirm this
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Anyone in NYC ?
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Changing the network mode is not changing the APN. You need to go to APN settings and change the name to fast.tmobile.com and the APN protocol to IPv4/IPv6 and save it. Then do speed tests to confirm if you're getting LTE.
T-Mobile users have reported getting LTE in NYC but the network kicks them off about 15 mins later.
Yes the Nexus 4 will receive LTE.
APN setting can be found at Settings/More/Mobile networks/Access point names
Don't forget to be on a .33 or lower radio
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Would this be considered lte?
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jaestreetss said:
Would this be considered lte?
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By speed alone, nope. I've personally seen 25 down and 3 or so up on HSPA+.
No. When you go to results it should say LTE as your network. Your icon on top should say 4G too.
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Eddy130306 said:
Changing the network mode is not changing the APN. You need to go to APN settings and change the name to fast.tmobile.com and the APN protocol to IPv4/IPv6 and save it. Then do speed tests to confirm if you're getting LTE.
T-Mobile users have reported getting LTE in NYC but the network kicks them off about 15 mins later.
Yes the Nexus 4 will receive LTE.
APN setting can be found at Settings/More/Mobile networks/Access point names
Don't forget to be on a .33 or lower radio
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Hi eddy, could you clarify this? I was under the impression that the Nexus 4 doesn't have an LTE radio or something and every review video I watch says that "no LTE" is a downside along with the no microSD card and removable battery.
Are you saying that there will be a Nexus 4 LTE version released soon? (This is all for Tmobile btw)
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Hi eddy, could you clarify this? I was under the impression that the Nexus 4 doesn't have an LTE radio or something and every review video I watch says that "no LTE" is a downside along with the no microSD card and removable battery.
Are you saying that there will be a Nexus 4 LTE version released soon? (This is all for Tmobile btw)
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No no there won't be an LTE Nexus 4. The Nexus 4 is already LTE, but you must be on android 4.2.1 or have root. Correct that there is no expandable memory or removable battery. Most reviews say that it doesn't have LTE either because they made the review before it was discovered or simply chose not to say because its not official and The N4 only supports carriers with LTE that have band 4 and that is only a few (T-Mobile and some Canadian carriers).
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For LTE, you can have the newest version of Android, but you must flash an older radio that still had LTE enabled. Then, you need to do what other people suggested, change your APN and radio settings.
Honestly I think HSPA+ is quite fast already. LTE is faster but do you really really really need it? It's cool to have and all. Most folks don't even know what LTE is or what it stands for. They just think "Oh it's super fast! I can download cat videos at super speeds!"
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Honestly I think HSPA+ is quite fast already. LTE is faster but do you really really really need it? It's cool to have and all. Most folks don't even know what LTE is or what it stands for. They just think "Oh it's super fast! I can download cat videos at super speeds!"
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I found this post funny because your avatar is Jerry the mouse :good::laugh:
But LTE is just another feature that tmo released. Nothing more than faster speeds and faster killing of your battery on LTE. LOL
I am content with HSPA+ for downloads but LTE would come in handy for uploads which are quite slow on HSPA+.
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No no there won't be an LTE Nexus 4. The Nexus 4 is already LTE, but you must be on android 4.2.1 or have root. Correct that there is no expandable memory or removable battery. Most reviews say that it doesn't have LTE either because they made the review before it was discovered or simply chose not to say because its not official and The N4 only supports carriers with LTE that have band 4 and that is only a few (T-Mobile and some Canadian carriers).
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Oh gotcha thanks. Yeah that's really cool for Tmobile customers I guess since it may future proof the device a little bit more now that TMobile is getting ready to roll out their LTE sometime in the next year. (or few months if what they claim is truth)
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Oh gotcha thanks. Yeah that's really cool for Tmobile customers I guess since it may future proof the device a little bit more now that TMobile is getting ready to roll out their LTE sometime in the next year. (or few months if what they claim is truth)
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They're already rolling LTE as we are speaking. We should see more cities with LTE by the end of this year. They won't stop until the cover the whole country. AT&T, Sprint and Verizon are still rolling out LTE. Lol
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Does anyone have one in the GTA? I love this phone but not sure what the data speeds would be. I'm with bell. Was reading ghat in some US markets the hspa+ was faster than the LTE.
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nursemaned said:
Does anyone have one in the GTA? I love this phone but not sure what the data speeds would be. I'm with bell. Was reading ghat in some US markets the hspa+ was faster than the LTE.
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In places where LTE is prominent, it is faster than any alternative. I think Bell and Rogers have pretty good LTE, especially in Toronto. So I don't see why it would be a problem (assuming the Find 5 is LTE capable).
It doesn't have LTE.
Speed on lte cant be beat by hspa... at least not in toronto...
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Thanks for the replies. I decided against because no LTE and went with the HTC One Dev.
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