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Beware Ebayer oalmaguer2012 he's a scammer

If this can get stickied somewhere would be great.
This is a heads up to anyone looking to get a note 2 cheap. Beware buying anything on ebay from user oalmaguer2012 he is a scammer. And ebay user and I have already been scammed $550 by him. He will claim that paypal is holding the funds until you leave him feedback, or he'll refund the money, in order to get you to leave feedback and for him to get the paypal funds in case it really is being held.
Anyway, he will give you bogus tracking information. He'll also give you is phone number, but after 2 weeks he'll vanish with your hard earned money. His phone number is 602-481-7941 and he claims he's from Arizona. His name as it appears in paypal is Oscar Almaguer with email [email protected].
As of right now I'm waiting on ebay for final resolution as I have already filed a complaint.
Again, this is a heads up to anyone trying to buy on ebay, beware of this guy.
Mods, please sticky or post in proper thread. I posted in this forum since he was selling the international Note 2.

UPDATE: I did get my refund today as ebay made the final decision in my favor. So they returned the amount I paid.
Either way, stay away from this seller, he doesn't seem to have the galaxy note 2, I was thinking he was pooling multipe orders so he could do a group buy or something, or he's just a plain old online scammer.

bangsters said:
His phone number is 602-481-7941 and he claims he's from Arizona. His name as it appears in paypal is Oscar Almaguer with email [email protected].
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As a former Arizona resident, 602 is the area code for Phoenix .
Regardless, it sucks to get scammed. It's always good to either use a credit card or paypal, because they (most of the time) have your back.
Thanks for the heads up though!

Yeah a similar thing happened to me when I sold my s3 on ebay. A guy bouhht it then I get a email from paypal saying he has paid but they are holding the funds until I give them the shipping number. I forwarded the email to paypal. Guess what, fake. Ebay seems rife with this stuff at the moment. Around the buying and selling of phones anyway.
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poplectic said:
Yeah a similar thing happened to me when I sold my s3 on ebay. A guy bouhht it then I get a email from paypal saying he has paid but they are holding the funds until I give them the shipping number. I forwarded the email to paypal. Guess what, fake. Ebay seems rife with this stuff at the moment. Around the buying and selling of phones anyway.
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Whoa, did the guy actually send an email posing as an official PayPal email? So he spoofed a PayPal address and sent you it?
Beamed from Jupiter on my Galaxy Note II

zkyevolved said:
As a former Arizona resident, 602 is the area code for Phoenix .
Regardless, it sucks to get scammed. It's always good to either use a credit card or paypal, because they (most of the time) have your back.
Thanks for the heads up though!
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yeah good thing I used paypal. And looking at my history I think ebay knew it was a no brainer that I got scammed.
I still haven't heard from the other person who bought the same item from him though.... hopefully he got refunded as well

Ah, that's awful. Glad you got your money back. This is why I don't buy anything worth more than 50 bucks off eBay. The scamming and the spoofing is so well done these days, it's not weird letters from "Nigerian princes" anymore like it used to be.

As long as whatever you sell is listed as "As-is" and "Non-refundable" then on the selling side, you should be safe with eBay's buyer protection.
As for buying, you need to be aware of who the seller is, the previous selling history and feedback, and the frequency of sells.

AjunNg said:
Whoa, did the guy actually send an email posing as an official PayPal email? So he spoofed a PayPal address and sent you it?
Beamed from Jupiter on my Galaxy Note II
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Yep. Looked exactly like a paypal email.
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Good end result though - Glad you got your money back mate!!

How to place an order with Expansys??

Yeah okay, it sounds crazy but hear me out. I've never used Expansys, but guys on here seem to like them. I've always used Handtec (love them) and Negri (not crazy about them, but never a major problem)
So last night I place an order for 3 SGS4's (i9500) with expansys, using a credit card. This is the same credit card I've had for many years, I've used it to order *countless* phones from Handtec, Negri, etc. I prefer Google Checkout. Never an issue.
I get this email today:
Thank you for your order, however I'm afraid that we are unable to
accept it as a credit card order.
If you would still like us to ship your order you can pay for it by
bank transfer or Amazon checkout. .
Amazon Checkout can only be utilized if the item ordered is in stock and you will
need to create an account with Amazon (if you do not have one already) and be
subject to their security checks.
Please send a response email if you are willing to pay for your products via wire
transfer or wish to pay with Amazon checkout.
You must contact us via email so we can make sure the shipping charges are correct
before you send the wire payment.
We will send you wire instructions and the amount due. Your order will be
processed immediately upon receipt of funds in our account.
If you wish to pay with Amazon checkout, we will cancel this order and you will
need to place a new order and select that payment option.
Your credit card has not and will not be charged.
Thank you for placing your order with eXpansys.
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Okay, so I called them up to find out the problem. All he could tell me was due to security they can't accept *a* credit card. (not just *my* credit card) So I asked about going through Amazon. (I'm a prime member) He tells me they can't do that either, until the phones are actually in stock. So my ONLY choice is to pay a fee, and do a bank transfer. (which boggles my mind... the phones won't be shipping for at least 1.5 weeks)
So now what? Negri is the only other place with the I9500s, and they want $75 more per phone. I wish Handtec had them, but they only have the I9505s.
Is there something else I can do, or someone else I can talk to? I told they guy the only option I have is to use Negri, he didn't care. What am I missing?
(yes this is half rant, half question...)

Is your shipping or billing address different to the address attached to the card? sometimes they don't like that :s

Brendo said:
Is your shipping or billing address different to the address attached to the card? sometimes they don't like that :s
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No, everything is the same. Like I said, it wasn't an issue with my credit card, but any credit card. My ONLY option was a bank transfer.
Its looking like I'm going to have to use Negri.

Are you talking USA or the Brits? I have used a credit card at the USA website several times.

krabman said:
Are you talking USA or the Brits? I have used a credit card at the USA website several times.
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USA. The order was for 3, totaling $2300 ish.
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Hmmmm, wonder if it's the amount either in dollars or number of phones? Might try and see if the website will accept an order for one. If they don't there is something up with your card. I can only go back to last years order but I made that one with a different card that was subsequently cancled do to a mass security leak. At any rate I have used two different cards there for sure. If they do accept the order you could order them one at a time I suppose. Guess if there was no time cruntch that would be the cheaper route.
Wire transfers bank to bank should not be that expensive, I have done a number of them for watches and never paid more than 40 dollars so that would still be quite a bit cheaper than Negri. IMO another route would be to call up and ask to be escalated up to someone who has the authority to make a call. I would guess if buying 3 that person might be willing to deduct it from the total price.

They made it VERY clear that it wasn't anything to do with my particular card. He just said no card could be used at all.
I'm going to try and get ahold of someone else tomorrow.
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I have ordered from them before, but only once and no issues. The dollar amount and qty of phones could be the issue and perhaps they are concerned about fraud given the popularity of the phones, risk of not getting paid if it were a case of fraud, etc.
I would say its a tough call, doing a $2300 transfer is something I wouldn't do no matter how much I liked a reseller, you could wait until they are in stock, but you risk them selling out quickly.
What kind of guarantee are they giving you if you needed to cancel the order, how long to get the funds back, are there any fee's etc. Would they do something to offset the fee's, say a credit towards accessories, etc? Never hurts to ask and that is a nice order.

RaptorMD said:
I have ordered from them before, but only once and no issues. The dollar amount and qty of phones could be the issue and perhaps they are concerned about fraud given the popularity of the phones, risk of not getting paid if it were a case of fraud, etc.
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Yeah, I can understand that. Heck when I saw the email I thought "okay, gotta call em up" But they didn't even ask. And I called less than 10 minutes after getting the email. The guy didn't even wanna deal with me.
The person who sent me the email had already gone home, so I dealt with him. I emailed her back, perhaps I'll hear something tomorrow.

I bought my gt-i9100 and motorola xoom off of expansys. First time cc worked no problem second time they asked for money transfer which I did. Everything went fine they shipped right away. Just make sure you ask the to fill out the international warranty papers in the box.

If you'd like to PM me I can get to the bottom of this for you. Is your CC by chance issued outside of the USA? That is what initially comes to mind.
Regards,
Corey

Corey L said:
If you'd like to PM me I can get to the bottom of this for you. Is your CC by chance issued outside of the USA? That is what initially comes to mind.
Regards,
Corey
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Nah, its a normal US CC. Ive used it for some pretty large phone purchases with Handtec and Negri in the past. (some of my friends don't have their crap together, so they pay me to order them phones)

PM me order Ref and I can look at it.

Hopefully the OP wont mind since I reckon he is interested as well... When do you anticipate stock and subsequent shipment Corey?

In my case, contacted UK Expansys for a quote, as US chat support told me to contact their UK division for a quote, with European tax and warranty. Two days and no reply yet :/ Support it's not serious at all and this could be a problem in case warranty support it's needed.
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krabman said:
Hopefully the OP wont mind since I reckon he is interested as well... When do you anticipate stock and subsequent shipment Corey?
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limited amount of white landing today, but our annual inventory starts at noon. If fedex gets to us by 10:30am, all white backorders go out today.

Bummer, I'm in early but for the black. Thanks for the update regardless.

Just an FYI for the thread, Corey was able to take care of the problem for me, but I had already placed an order w/Negri. (it shipped the very next day, no time to cancel)

Phones4u cashback overpayment

I'll keep this breif, got my z2 from phones4u, with £70.50 cashback as part of the offer..... My cashback went into my account on the 28th of april but a duplicate payment also went in. I know they only give me 7 days to pont out any contract errors/phone faults etc to them, otherwise tough luck on my part, so i was expecting to either hear from them within a few days or have the money took back from my account, neither of these happened.
However on monday (21 days after paying me) i recieved this email:
As you will be aware, you have recently received an automated payment from Phones 4u directly in to your bank account for £70.5 on the 28th April 2014.
Due to a process error, in addition to the agreed payment, you have however also received a duplicate payment of the same amount also on the 28th April. As this was not part of the offer we therefore require this overpayment to be repaid by 8th June 2014.
In order to make the repayment as convenient as possible for you, you can make one payment of £70.5 by one of the following methods:
Check or postal order made payable to Phones 4u Ltd, sent to the following address:
Phones 4u Ltd
Osprey House
Ore Close
Lymedale Business Park
Newcastle Under Lyme
ST5 9QD
Bank transfer to the following bank details, Sort Code 30-00-02, Account Number 00704305, quoting your reference number and your surname,
Credit / Dierct card payments can be processed by telephoning 01782 676944 or 0800 294 6023 Monday to Friday, between the hours of 9.00am - 4.30pm.
Please accept our apologies for this inconvenience. We appreciate your assistance.
Yours sincerely,
Phones 4u
My question is can i legally not pay this??? I've searched through the t&c's and can find absolutely nothing about errors on there part (altho any issues/errors or whatnot at my end need to be dealt with within 7 days) and this email also doesnt mention any further action if i dont pay....
Am i legally allowed to tell them politely to go f*** themselves and pay more attention to what they are doing in future?
P.S. Dunno if they operate in other countries but im referring to uk law

Pay it back. It isn't yours.
Also, they do have full legal recourse to recover the money, regardless of how long ago the error occurred. It doesn't need to be in the T&Cs because it's already in the law of the land.

Dreadful OP. Give the money back. Morally and legally the correct thing to do.

Send a reply stating "for any non contractual payments to be made by me will unfortunately incur an administration charge of no less than £69.00. "
"payments made by myself in the form of cheque or postal orders will also incur a single charge of £1.50 for postage and packing.
Please advise me on how you wish to proceed."
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I would pay it back mate or else they will keep chasing you for it & pass it on to a debt collection agency.

if you wanna go into the black list dont pay it. my uncle is a 2 business owner and 4 mortgage owner because of silly £60 payment he didnt pay he cant get any loan from the bank.

If your device is not network locked and you have the original bill with you, you may not pay them back. They aren't "legally" entitled to it.
Had the same issue with Domino's btw. Didn't pay em ****.

KyleSforza said:
If your device is not network locked and you have the original bill with you, you may not pay them back. They aren't "legally" entitled to it.
Had the same issue with Domino's btw. Didn't pay em ****.
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What do you mean by original bill?? All my bills get emailed to me so i have at least 2 years worth, i didnt think there was anything they could legally do apart from ask you to pay it back. I think its something to do with statutory consumer rights, kinda how shops state 'please check change before leaving as mistakes cannot be rectified later, (and yes i am that person who will walk out of a shop, then stick my head back through the door to tell them they gave me too much change, but cant have it back as i've left the shop)..... and whoever mentioned it being morally right to pay it back, id normally agree but this is phones4u were talking about, my morals followed theres out the door

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What do you mean by original bill?? All my bills get emailed to me so i have at least 2 years worth, i didnt think there was anything they could legally do apart from ask you to pay it back. I think its something to do with statutory consumer rights, kinda how shops state 'please check change before leaving as mistakes cannot be rectified later, (and yes i am that person who will walk out of a shop, then stick my head back through the door to tell them they gave me too much change, but cant have it back as i've left the shop)..... and whoever mentioned it being morally right to pay it back, id normally agree but this is phones4u were talking about, my morals followed theres out the door
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The payment receipt for the phone. With which you'd be claiming warranty in future if needed.

KyleSforza said:
The payment receipt for the phone. With which you'd be claiming warranty in future if needed.
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Oh right, yeah i got that, and it doesnt mention any cashback, only mentions btx300 speaker, z2 and a gourmet society membership

KyleSforza said:
If your device is not network locked and you have the original bill with you, you may not pay them back. They aren't "legally" entitled to it.
Had the same issue with Domino's btw. Didn't pay em ****.
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Ehm if he recieved money that is not his of course he has to pay it back. If someone transfers 1 million to your account by mistake it does not make it yours. And you have to pay it back.

Nah, look at phones 4 u terms and conditions.
Phones 4 u cannot be held liable for any action ..... Caused by any neglectful act by yourself.
That's a 2 way street right there.
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2 wrongs do NOT make a right; it doesn't matter who makes a financial error, its part of being a good human being to give anyone, person, or business their money back if you receive it in error..
Hard to believe that people now a days even have to ask something like this..No wonder this world is going to hell, no one gives a damn about anyone but THEMSELVES

Don't get me wrong, I'd pay it back. But he doesn't want to and he wants to know can he say "tough"
Morally, no
Legally, probably no too, but he's well within his right (just as these big Businesses do) to apply administration costs, fees etc.
And please, we all know the world's going to he'll because of banks and big business, and they're the first in line to charge excessively for menial things.
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corallus said:
Don't get me wrong, I'd pay it back. But he doesn't want to and he wants to know can he say "tough"
Morally, no
Legally, probably no too, but he's well within his right (just as these big Businesses do) to apply administration costs, fees etc.
And please, we all know the world's going to he'll because of banks and big business, and they're the first in line to charge excessively for menial things.
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Agreed, but, once again, just because some one or some company doesnt do the "right thing", that doesn't mean that its ok for them OR us to be the same way...
Karma is a funny thing; live your life and treat others the way YOU want to be treated, and life will be good for you...

That's why I'd give it back,
but he's not me.
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This is something only a lawyer can tell you, they would have to go through the T&C and find any loopholes or ways out, this of course would cost more than £70 so just pay it back and avoid any trouble.
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Once signed up for cheap mobile with free xbox 360, next day, 2 phones and 2 xbox's arrived, I rang up place to enquire as to the two phones being sent. Reply was 1 is your contract phone sir and one is the complimentary payg phone. I then said but what about the 2 xbox's, "what?"
Two xbox's came.
"sir, our records show only 1 xbox was picked and sent, I suggest you go and recount the items, ok?"
Err ok.
"is there anything else I can do for you today?"
No that's all thanks
"thanks for you call MR LUCKY"
Was I in the wrong for never contacting them again?
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I'd say return it mate, Karma is a *****

Xernoxis said:
Ehm if he recieved money that is not his of course he has to pay it back. If someone transfers 1 million to your account by mistake it does not make it yours. And you have to pay it back.
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Ethically, yes. Legally, Nope.

Paypal Chargeback on a Swapp.com sale

So I sold a Galaxy S5 on swappa.com two months ago for $585.
I shipped the S5 via USPS Priority (with tracking number) to an address in Florida.
Low and behold, two months later, completely out of the blue, Paypal just subtracted $585 from my Paypal account, so now it's in the negative.
Seems the buyer initiated a "Unauthorized Payment Chargeback".
I've submitted my tracking # and Swappa.com sale ID to Paypal and they are "reviewing the claim". But some quick Googling says I'm probably about to lose $585 when Paypal deducts it from my checking account.
I called my Credit Union and they need form after form after form and a $30 fee to block PayPal and the form can't be submitted until AFTER Paypal takes the funds from my checking account. And then there is no guarantee it'll work?!?
And the Paypal website won't let me remove my checking account from my Paypal account. So if they decide against me, which it sounds like they might, then I'll be screwed.
Just a warning to you guys.
I wanted a quick sale and did not research the buyer before shipping the item. That was my bad.

I don't get it. Why was the charge reversed? Maybe it was a hi-jacked account that was used. That happened to me years ago. The money just magically vanished right out of my bank account. Nobody could tell me how or why. Had to figure it out for myself. Unreal.

theorioles33 said:
I don't get it. Why was the charge reversed? Maybe it was a hi-jacked account that was used. That happened to me years ago. The money just magically vanished right out of my bank account. Nobody could tell me how or why. Had to figure it out for myself. Unreal.
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Yeah, I guess.
What I don't get is why do WE get dinged for this.
It wasn't US who mishandled the buyers charge account.
So wtf. Paypal or Credit Card companies are the ones who should eat the charge.

CZ Eddie said:
Yeah, I guess.
What I don't get is why do WE get dinged for this.
It wasn't US who mishandled the buyers charge account.
So wtf. Paypal or Credit Card companies are the ones who should eat the charge.
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Yeah I know. The sellers always get screwed.

I'm afraid you're going to have to just use this as a $585 lesson on why you should NEVER use Paypal for anything. I don't have a checking account OR a credit card linked to my PP account.
Edit: I thought Swappa was a broker, of sorts. Don't they get hold the funds till the buyer receives the phone?
Edit2: Call AT&T and Tmo and report the MEID as stolen?

Honestly, i think paypal will rule in your favor. From personal experience of this happening to me on ebay; generally providing paypal with the proof of shipment is enough. Granted, it takes a couple weeks for them to get their stuff together, but just wanted to let you know.
Good luck

CZ Eddie said:
So I sold a Galaxy S5 on swappa.com two months ago for $585.
I shipped the S5 via USPS Priority (with tracking number) to an address in Florida.
Low and behold, two months later, completely out of the blue, Paypal just subtracted $585 from my Paypal account, so now it's in the negative.
Seems the buyer initiated a "Unauthorized Payment Chargeback".
I've submitted my tracking # and Swappa.com sale ID to Paypal and they are "reviewing the claim". But some quick Googling says I'm probably about to lose $585 when Paypal deducts it from my checking account.
I called my Credit Union and they need form after form after form and a $30 fee to block PayPal and the form can't be submitted until AFTER Paypal takes the funds from my checking account. And then there is no guarantee it'll work?!?
And the Paypal website won't let me remove my checking account from my Paypal account. So if they decide against me, which it sounds like they might, then I'll be screwed.
Just a warning to you guys.
I wanted a quick sale and did not research the buyer before shipping the item. That was my bad.
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in my experience if your tracking number show the item was delivered for the address that confirmed on paypal for the buyer at least ( city, state and zipcode ) match then even chargeback will be end up in your favor . but if the address was unconfirmed on paypal then ya they could decided it against you .

Forgot about this thread!
Yeah, they ruled in my favor after holding my account hostage for two weeks. Thanks guys.

Congratulations on the ruling. And just for that guy being a ****, and trying to scam you, I'd still report it as stolen. But that's just me.
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graydiggy said:
Congratulations on the ruling. And just for that guy being a ****, and trying to scam you, I'd still report it as stolen. But that's just me.
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graydiggy said:
Congratulations on the ruling. And just for that guy being a ****, and trying to scam you, I'd still report it as stolen. But that's just me.
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Echo that.

Hahahah... Yeah but he's likely sold it to some unsuspecting fool who doesn't deserve that. Funny idea though. ;/

Didn't think of that. Good call.

I just bought my note off swappa. I'll keep that in mind when i go to sell one on there.

Good information that has run it's course. Closed.

Ebay scammers: watch out

It goes without saying buying on ebay can be risky but I wanted to post a warning about a particular individual who keeps posting and or hacking the ebay acts posting pixel xl 128gb for sale with the same picture. It seems ebay doesnt gas and allows this person to consistantly repost via different accounts that are probably hacked. The main mo is a pixel xl 128gb for cheap bewtween 500-600$. Obviously the price raises eyebrows because the going rate on ebay is 900-1200$ from a typical scalper, but the perp keeps using acts that appear to have 99-100% fb that are long time users/older acts. Thing is... these sellers, are usually sellers of small items like coins and other knick knacks and or have not been active for a while. Im sure most of you are aware but thought id put out this psa. The other issue is this idiot keeps using the same image fir every hacked act they use. W/E i see this i report it, it comes down and is back up in a few days, with a dif act, but same mo: 100%fb, long time user and usually inactive or sells small items with no history of high end phones or anything. If its too good to be true... With that said hopefully Google restocks by march or so i really like this phone. The pic below is from the ebay scam. If you buy from ebay be very carefull because this ahole is not the only one. Please if you see any listings on ebay with this image report it.

Paying by paypal and with ebays 30 day guarantee your guaranteed to get your money back but yes it can hold your money up for days. Years past the buyer would be left holding the bag but now a days paypal holds the money on new sellers until they provide tracking and the buyer has to post that they received the item and all is well so I have no idea how they could get away with this type of fraud anymore because paypal will pull the funds back from their paypal account so they are basically wasting their time and they get nothing.
http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/money-back-guarantee.html
What's covered
Most transactions on eBay.com are covered by the eBay Money Back Guarantee.
Covered
Purchases are covered by the eBay Money Back Guarantee when all of the following are true:
An item isn't received or it isn't as described in the listing.
A buyer reports that they didn't receive an item or requests a return within the eBay Money Back Guarantee timelines.
The buyer made the purchase on eBay.com via checkout or an eBay invoice with one of the following payment methods:
PayPal
PayPal Credit
Credit card or debit card
The item was paid for in a single payment (including payments with PayPal Credit).
If the listing was a live auction by an auction house seller, the buyer made the purchase on eBay.com and paid by any payment method, the purchase is covered as long as the buyer provides a copy of the seller invoice and proof of payment. Items sold through Sotheby's are excluded.
Not covered
Buyer remorse or any reason other than not receiving an item or receiving an item that isn’t as described in the listing (see the seller’s return policy for return options).
Items damaged during pick-up or shipping or not delivered when the buyer arranges pick-up or shipping of the item (for instance, the buyer arranges freight).
Duplicate claims through other resolution methods.
Items shipped to another address after original delivery.
Vehicles (see eBay Vehicle Protection), Real Estate, Websites & Business for Sale, Classified Ads, services, and some Business Equipment categories (see eBay Business Equipment Purchase Protection).
Items sold through Sotheby's.
Items purchased on half.com, eBay Wholesale Deals, or eBay Classifieds.

M9guy said:
Paying by paypal and with ebays 30 day guarantee your guaranteed to get your money back but yes it can hold your money up for days. Years past the buyer would be left holding the bag but now a days paypal holds the money on new sellers until they provide tracking and the buyer has to post that they received the item and all is well so I have no idea how they could get away with this type of fraud anymore because paypal will pull the funds back from their paypal account so they are basically wasting their time and they get nothing.
http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/money-back-guarantee.html
What's covered
Most transactions on eBay.com are covered by the eBay Money Back Guarantee.
Covered
Purchases are covered by the eBay Money Back Guarantee when all of the following are true:
An item isn't received or it isn't as described in the listing.
A buyer reports that they didn't receive an item or requests a return within the eBay Money Back Guarantee timelines.
The buyer made the purchase on eBay.com via checkout or an eBay invoice with one of the following payment methods:
PayPal
PayPal Credit
Credit card or debit card
The item was paid for in a single payment (including payments with PayPal Credit).
If the listing was a live auction by an auction house seller, the buyer made the purchase on eBay.com and paid by any payment method, the purchase is covered as long as the buyer provides a copy of the seller invoice and proof of payment. Items sold through Sotheby's are excluded.
Not covered
Buyer remorse or any reason other than not receiving an item or receiving an item that isn’t as described in the listing (see the seller’s return policy for return options).
Items damaged during pick-up or shipping or not delivered when the buyer arranges pick-up or shipping of the item (for instance, the buyer arranges freight).
Duplicate claims through other resolution methods.
Items shipped to another address after original delivery.
Vehicles (see eBay Vehicle Protection), Real Estate, Websites & Business for Sale, Classified Ads, services, and some Business Equipment categories (see eBay Business Equipment Purchase Protection).
Items sold through Sotheby's.
Items purchased on half.com, eBay Wholesale Deals, or eBay Classifieds.
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That's another sign its a scam. He doesn't accept paypal only CC :laugh:

aholeinthewor1d said:
That's another sign its a scam. He doesn't accept paypal only CC :laugh:
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Many accept credit cards but I would not unless they have high positive feedback as a seller and not just positive as a buyer and I would never give them CC info over the phone or email only through secure ebay checkout. People can still file a chargeback with their credit card company but getting the money back can take months.
My thinking is many deals can be legit I know by personal experience, but yes fraudulent sellers can be weeded out if you investigate before hitting confirm bid or buy it now.

High positive fb isnt always a sure thing; this particular scam targets older acts WITH high positive fb. The thing is you have to make sure that what the seller is selling makes sense. If you see a 1oz gold bar for 300$ (going rate is about 1200) and the seller has 3600 sales @ 100% fb but all hes ever sold was buttons for 1$ run away, run away fast. And thats exactly what this slimeball does, he hacks high sales 100% fb acts and posts the pixel xl for a killer price, chesper even than the Google store.

freakboy13 said:
It goes without saying buying on ebay can be risky but I wanted to post a warning about a particular individual who keeps posting and or hacking the ebay acts posting pixel xl 128gb for sale with the same picture. It seems ebay doesnt gas and allows this person to consistantly repost via different accounts that are probably hacked. The main mo is a pixel xl 128gb for cheap bewtween 500-600$. Obviously the price raises eyebrows because the going rate on ebay is 900-1200$ from a typical scalper, but the perp keeps using acts that appear to have 99-100% fb that are long time users/older acts. Thing is... these sellers, are usually sellers of small items like coins and other knick knacks and or have not been active for a while. Im sure most of you are aware but thought id put out this psa. The other issue is this idiot keeps using the same image fir every hacked act they use. W/E i see this i report it, it comes down and is back up in a few days, with a dif act, but same mo: 100%fb, long time user and usually inactive or sells small items with no history of high end phones or anything. If its too good to be true... With that said hopefully Google restocks by march or so i really like this phone. The pic below is from the ebay scam. If you buy from ebay be very carefull because this ahole is not the only one. Please if you see any listings on ebay with this image report it.
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I actually messaged that guy at [email protected] and agreed to a deal for two pixel xl 128gb for JUST $1200
He then proceeds in sending me an invoice which I have to pay via bank transfer. Everything looks like it's perfectly covered by Ebay and is sent by Ebay ([email protected], looks pretty fake to me, but don't know, attached a screenshot)
I then asked him why they don't accept paypal, so I'm covered.
"For the moment we can't accept payment trough PayPal. The payment must be made through Bank Transfer. eBay will be third party in this transaction and will guarantee for both of us. The money will be secured by eBay until you will receive the package. 14 days of inspection - the inspection period starts once you have the items in your hands. This means you have 14 days to decide whether I get the money or not. In case the items are not as I described them, the transaction is canceled and eBay will refund full amount. If the items are as described, the transaction is completed and I will receive the money from eBay. Let me know if I should keep this items reserved for you."
I really don't know if all lies or not, but I obviously canceled the deal.

Wire transfer? No WAY. This is without a doubt a scam and good luck getting eBay to stand behind this despite what they claim. This guy is a scam and anyone who buys from him gets what they deserve. How many more red flags do people need? If you do a wire transfer does the recipient know your account number? I wonder is that is the scam, to get your bank account number.
So the seller is in NY yet the bank is in Spain and the owner of that account is listed as Florina Adriana Barbu. Not suspicious at all
Best guess, if you order and get anything at all they will have blocked IMEI. Likely stolen. My feeling is you won't get anything but a lot of trouble.
Bad English is another sign that this is likely a scam.

Mike02z said:
Wire transfer? No WAY. This is without a doubt a scam and good luck getting eBay to stand behind this despite what they claim. This guy is a scam and anyone who buys from him gets what they deserve. How many more red flags do people need? If you do a wire transfer does the recipient know your account number? I wonder is that is the scam, to get your bank account number.
So the seller is in NY yet the bank is in Spain and the owner of that account is listed as Florina Adriana Barbu. Not suspicious at all
Best guess, if you order and get anything at all they will have blocked IMEI. Likely stolen. My feeling is you won't get anything but a lot of trouble.
Bad English is another sign that this is likely a scam.
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Yep. It looks pretty legit, though, if you don't have much experience and are hyped for the device. So I believe they really do have success sometimes.

Cards-ebay.com is not eBay. It is a fake address to simulate real ones. Only . should pretext the website name as cards.eBay.com would be valid. Here is the whois for cards-ebay.com https://whois.icann.org/en/lookup?name=Cards-ebay.com looks very shady.

jjayzx said:
Cards-ebay.com is not eBay. It is a fake address to simulate real ones. Only . should pretext the website name as cards.eBay.com would be valid. Here is the whois for cards-ebay.com https://whois.icann.org/en/lookup?name=Cards-ebay.com looks very shady.
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Good catch! That domain is being hidden and in the name of a proxy service. This would be a sure fire way to lose 600 bucks and maybe more if they get your account number which is what I suspect they are really phising for.

Use Swappa. Been using using to both buy and sell phones for years. No issues for me.

Mike02z said:
Good catch! That domain is being hidden and in the name of a proxy service. This would be a sure fire way to lose 600 bucks and maybe more if they get your account number which is what I suspect they are really phising for.
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They actually want you to buy two devices minimum, so you lose at least $1200
chazall1 said:
Use Swappa. Been using using to both buy and sell phones for years. No issues for me.
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But Swappa never has the phones I'm looking for..

D4rkSoRRoW said:
They actually want you to buy two devices minimum, so you lose at least $1200
But Swappa never has the phones I'm looking for..
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And neither does eBay it appears.
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As long as you always pay with Paypal on ebay you will alway get your money back as with paypal new sellers will get their money held by paypal until the buyer leaves positive feedback or confirms to paypal that they received the item and its as described but you still have a 30 day money back guarantee with ebay.

daryllh said:
And neither does eBay it appears.
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Nah, Ebay definitely has them. Not the first time I'm searching for devices there

D4rkSoRRoW said:
Nah, Ebay definitely has them. Not the first time I'm searching for devices there
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Yeah ebay has the biggest variety and you can find them cheap many times. I have found the latest models just out for as low as $200 one a woman used her upgrade then I think it was too advanced for her so she went back to her iphone lol, she just wanted her $199.99 she paid back so I got a heck of a deal. Some times you have to search a bit but it pays off.

M9guy said:
Yeah ebay has the biggest variety and you can find them cheap many times. I have found the latest models just out for as low as $200 one a woman used her upgrade then I think it was too advanced for her so she went back to her iphone lol, she just wanted her $199.99 she paid back so I got a heck of a deal. Some times you have to search a bit but it pays off.
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Woah!! That's damn nice. I bought a XL 128gb for 800 euros. That's already 300 euros cheaper than new

D4rkSoRRoW said:
Woah!! That's damn nice. I bought a XL 128gb for 800 euros. That's already 300 euros cheaper than new
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Oh sorry I did not mean this phone, I meant phones in the past. Plus the deals are best a couple months after the device is out. The little old ladies dont buy at first release usually lol. The techies only buy early or the ones trying to profit, so it takes a good month or two after release to see good deals, or if the competition has a new phone come out right after the phone you want that helps get good deals too.

M9guy said:
Oh sorry I did not mean this phone, I meant phones in the past. Plus the deals are best a couple months after the device is out. The little old ladies dont buy at first release usually lol. The techies only buy early or the ones trying to profit, so it takes a good month or two after release to see good deals, or if the competition has a new phone come out right after the phone you want that helps get good deals too.
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Well, the Pixel got released in october, so that's good three months now.

D4rkSoRRoW said:
Well, the Pixel got released in october, so that's good three months now.
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Yes but they have been on back order keeping prices very high. The black 128gb pixel xl's were selling on ebay for over $1000.00