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Kindle Fire

I want one of these.
It will look good beside my PlayBook, TouchPad and Transformer.

Any idea what version of Android they're using as a base for this puppy?

I hope they are using Honeycomb, if not i don't think its worth it

saltorio said:
Any idea what version of Android they're using as a base for this puppy?
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2.xxx most likely.

I've heard rumors of Eclair, but nothing concrete.
Not that it matters. If I were looking at one it would be to root and get an AOSP ROM running on. Was just curious.
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It's running on top of Gingerbread according to this graphic: http://www.droid-life.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/kindle-graphic.jpg

I could careless about what version of Android it ships with. I'm wondering if its going to be easily rooted. It seems to have the specs to run HC and eventually ICS so I would for sure grab one.

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lol
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It's cheap because of the 'limited' features, no camera, no microphone, WiFi only, low storage and no video out. It's basically just a battery and a screen.
I haven't seen anything about the processor, gpu or battery life yet, (apart from the dual core reference) but since it is apparently based on the Playbook, perhaps we can expect something similar to that.

Does it have microSD card?

saltorio said:
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It runs flash. so Froyo at least

From what I have read
Based on what I was able to read and what is being posted on Google+ . . . Twitter . . . you name it, the rumor is that the device is going to run its own "custom" version of Android.
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Even Amazon's page doesn't really mention "android" just that it's sleek and fast. My guess is that they are going to try to move away from being labeled "android" and move to just using android to further the purpose of the tablet.
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I do, however, want to get a hold of the "amazon silk" browser so I can check it out before I decide whether or not I want to get it.
My guess is that someone would have to pull the browser apk out of the image after the tablet release before I could even think of looking at it.
Oh well, just the kid in me wanting to play with new stuff HAHA

From Amazon's website
Technical Details
Display- 7" multi-touch display with IPS (in-plane switching) technology and anti-reflective treatment, 1024 x 600 pixel resolution at 169 ppi, 16 million colors.
Size- (in inches) 7.5" x 4.7" x 0.45" (190 mm x 120 mm x 11.4 mm).
Weight - 14.6 ounces (413 grams).
System Requirements=- None, because it's wireless and doesn't require a computer.
On-device Storage- 8GB internal. That's enough for 80 apps, plus either 10 movies or 800 songs or 6,000 books.
Cloud Storage- Free cloud storage for all Amazon content
Battery Life- Up to 8 hours of continuous reading or 7.5 hours of video playback, with wireless off. Battery life will vary based on wireless usage, such as web browsing and downloading content.
Charge Time- Fully charges in approximately 4 hours via included U.S. power adapter. Also supports charging from your computer via USB.
Wi-Fi Connectivity- Supports public and private Wi-Fi networks or hotspots that use the 802.11b, 802.11g, 802.11n, or 802.1X standard with support for WEP, WPA and WPA2 security using password authentication; does not support connecting to ad-hoc (or peer-to-peer) Wi-Fi networks.
USB Port- USB 2.0 (micro-B connector)
Audio- 3.5 mm stereo audio jack, top-mounted stereo speakers.
Content Formats Supported- Kindle (AZW), TXT, PDF, unprotected MOBI, PRC natively, Audible (Audible Enhanced (AA, AAX)), DOC, DOCX, JPEG, GIF, PNG, BMP, non-DRM AAC, MP3, MIDI, OGG, WAV, MP4, VP8.
Documentation- Quick Start Guide(included in box); Kindle User's Guide (pre-installed on device)
Warranty and Service- 1-year limited warranty and service included. Optional 2-year Extended Warranty available for U.S. customers sold separately. Use of Kindle is subject to the Kindle License Agreement and Terms of Use.
Included in the Box- Kindle Fire tablet, U.S. power adapter (supports 100-240V), and Quick Start

stud_muffler said:
Does it have microSD card?
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Not seen it confirmed or denied yet, but I doubt it since it has 'Unlimited' storage via Amazon's cloud. Also no volume buttons, the only button is the power button...
edit: ahh technical specs above confirm it doesn't

We Need To Gear Up
Someone need to find the bootloader for the Fire. We need to port CM7 on this device. I can't live with that "Plain Jane" interface Amazon is using.

not too worried about the volume buttons. would like to know more about the processor. if the processor isnt better than the nook, it appears to be the nook integrated with amazon. and the price is nice.
either way, i would love to see one in person.
though, until cm7/android is ported to it directly, i think ill hold off getting one, since i already have a nook w/ cm7 and was hoping for something a little snappier, maybe honeycomb.
there is also a rumor (yea, i know, rumors) that they will have a 10" in the new year. like a DX to the original kindle... a fire DX to the fire...

I'm quite surprised how similar it is to a PlayBook, check the pics. It looks practically identical, the only obvious difference (in these not so good pics) is the logo and the small slit at the bottom of the PlayBook bezel. The size, shape screen all look identical, so perhaps the internals will be pretty similar too, ie better than the Nook...

stud_muffler said:
Does it have microSD card?
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Seems like a critical question.
Without a microSD slot (or other means of removable storage), the 8G internal memory would severely limit extending its capabilities.

adfad666 said:
I'm quite surprised how similar it is to a PlayBook, check the pics. It looks practically identical, the only obvious difference (in these not so good pics) is the logo and the small slit at the bottom of the PlayBook bezel. The size, shape screen all look identical, so perhaps the internals will be pretty similar too, ie better than the Nook...
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Check this out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1280876

this link says dual core 1ghz processor and 512 ram...im not impressed anymore
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/28/amazon-kindle-fire-impressions/

Galaxy Note 10.1 GT-N8000 - Discussion Thread (in stock)

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It is available for preorder at Negri Electronics for 750USD (a little steep imho)!
http://negrielectronics.com/samsung-gt-n8000-galaxy-note-10-1-16gb-unlocked-white.html#.UBusDE3iYvv
Another infi here, use G Translate:
http://www.netbooknews.de/75937/sam...s-kommt-am-9-august-hardware-specs-bestatigt/
How to root video: http://androidroot.org/watch_video.php?v=3B53OKX72N7R
So, after many speculation it has a QUAD core CPU, 2GB RAM and a 5MP Camera. The only drawback is the 720 screen, not 1080, but anyway it is the perfect tablet imho, you can do everything with it!.
Will you buy it, and why?

That's WAY too expensive for a tablet.
Especially since it is a 16GB. They can't compete with prices like that.

lol 750 USD? this is gonna be a joke.

A Watcom digitizer is alone 200$ and when the tablet will be available on proper retail channels it will be around 550$. So, under that price it will worth every penny.

If the pen is not necessary, this is a subpar tablet. The TF700 is better.

This is the only thing that makes me want the tablet, SPen, and also Samsung build quality, i own the Prime and i know what i am talking about. TF700 suffers the same I/O problems like TF201.

I have been saving since introduction of first iPad to buy this. I have used windows tablets with wacom pens and only I know how frustrating that is.
Sent from GNote.

For that money they could provide NFC ...i don't understand the omission, you could pair it with your phone easily, Nexus 7 has it. At least it has BT 4.0.

it's a beautiful tablet with a great specs and s-pen but it's a little bit expensive.
i wonder what for the infra-red, remote control what, note 2 maybe?! samsung smart tv maybe?

Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7 also has IR for the control of TVs and other IR enabled devices.

BTW, this device has the Apt-x codec for bluetooth audio (also BT 4.0 I believe). This codec works great and is sort of rare right now. OS X has it built in but it's sometimes difficult to use (other codecs compete, for some reason). Anyway, there is presently only a handful of devices that use this. I want it as I own a Soundmatters Foxl that uses this codec. It works well and sounds better than regular bluetooth audio (which is marginal).
Note: It's interesting that OS X has this codec but iOS does not. Lame. Also, it's apparently one of the only Android device that uses it.

I hope it does have exFat support (ntfs in my dreams .. ), my Prime has it.

Nice commercial:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbgBxr4H59A&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Having waited ages for this tablet's release the specs are disappointing. Not for me I'm afraid...still no Android tablet out there that I can justify purchasing

diverblue said:
Having waited ages for this tablet's release the specs are disappointing. Not for me I'm afraid...still no Android tablet out there that I can justify purchasing
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What is it that you are missing?

Strange, why no 1080p? This one is top of the line Samsung tablet at the moment, should got at least 1080p. 1280x800 for 10.1" tablet is so yesteryear imo. Battery concern? Mali-400 can't handle 1080p?

brooon said:
What is it that you are missing?
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When I sit down and give it a bit more thought perhaps I am being over critical...I just can't get excited yet! Will have to wait and see how it fairs in hands on reviews. I just hope the S Pen calibration is improved over the N7000. As a left handed user I find it pretty poor and the continuous cycle of having to reset the 'left handed' calibration option in the pen options is just frustrating, especially on a device designed to work with a pen! A slight bump in screen resolution and processor speed would have been a nice touch, though on balance these aren't necessarily going to be deal breakers.

I really don't need 1080 screen resolution...it comes with age (worse eye site)
As for pen, it's something different because it has 1024 pressure levels, not just 256 like our Note does.
Another selling point for me is the inclusion of 2GB of RAM, dreaming of dual booting in Ubuntu (or in worst case WinRT which needs a lot of RAM).

diverblue said:
When I sit down and give it a bit more thought perhaps I am being over critical...I just can't get excited yet! Will have to wait and see how it fairs in hands on reviews. I just hope the S Pen calibration is improved over the N7000. As a left handed user I find it pretty poor and the continuous cycle of having to reset the 'left handed' calibration option in the pen options is just frustrating, especially on a device designed to work with a pen! A slight bump in screen resolution and processor speed would have been a nice touch, though on balance these aren't necessarily going to be deal breakers.
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Sorry for the slight off topic but Touch Screen Tune from the market sorts out calibration. Does need root.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium

Also, if i activate the pen cursor in ICS i don't feel the need for any calibration.

Top list of Mini PCs

Hello guys, I just saw this list of all the top Mini PCs for May, thought it looked very useful so wanted to share it.
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Full list here (23 models).
CAN has posted a little article on it also.
It's shocking that Measy A2W Chromecast style dongle. Literally peanuts.

I have two of the Measy style dongles. Worthless IMHO.
Ok. so if you ONLY want to stream from your phone then it's great. and for about $20 it is a good value.
I just received one of the Android TV boxes with the Amlogic S802 processors, M8. while it's just over $100, it's far more useful. Basically turns your tv into an android phone minus the touch screen. XBMC plays most videos including DTS audio and also streams cable tv in HD from my silicon dust HDhomerun prime.
Enjoy.

Icyman said:
I have two of the Measy style dongles. Worthless IMHO.
Ok. so if you ONLY want to stream from your phone then it's great. and for about $20 it is a good value.
I just received one of the Android TV boxes with the Amlogic S802 processors, M8. while it's just over $100, it's far more useful. Basically turns your tv into an android phone minus the touch screen. XBMC plays most videos including DTS audio and also streams cable tv in HD from my silicon dust HDhomerun prime.
Enjoy.
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Indeed, the larger boxes (Mini PCs) are worth the extra bucks. The little Chromecast style Ezcast M2 streaming dongles are handy for 20/30 bucks. But the larger units where its at.
Saying that there are two new units recently announced. RK3288 based. Ugoos UM3 dongle, and the mini PC TV box style is the Ugoos UT3.
Supporting 2K and 4K video playback and recording.

BlobLobba said:
Indeed, the larger boxes (Mini PCs) are worth the extra bucks. The little Chromecast style Ezcast M2 streaming dongles are handy for 20/30 bucks. But the larger units where its at.
Saying that there are two new units recently announced. RK3288 based. Ugoos UM3 dongle, and the mini PC TV box style is the Ugoos UT3.
Supporting 2K and 4K video playback and recording.
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I think i may wait for the Ugoos Ut3 as it has RK3288 CPU.
I have the Mk809iv KitKat TV stick and it works fine.

Looks like a screenshot of a web store.

britoso said:
Looks like a screenshot of a web store.
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It's a Newsletter they send out. Sometimes it's Mini PC, sometimes tablets, phones and so on. I find it handy for keeping up with what's released and available. I just entered my email to sign up and then after that you get one around once or twice a week. Normally has around 18 devices.

BlobLobba said:
It's a Newsletter they send out. Sometimes it's Mini PC, sometimes tablets, phones and so on. I find it handy for keeping up with what's released and available. I just entered my email to sign up and then after that you get one around once or twice a week. Normally has around 18 devices.
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The thread title is misleading, its not a top list of anything.

Is nvidia shield android tv worth buying at this point?

My knockoff android tv set-top box is crap so I am considering to buy nvidia shield android TV. Considering it was released just under a year ago, I am worried that there will be a better version released soon and I would spend my money on obsolete version. Will there be a newer version soon?

A year goes by, and nothing has been able to beat it thusfar.
Nvidia are quite good with long term support, so expect this device to last atleast another three to five years.
This is a box aimed at the livingroom. They aren't going to bring one out every year. That's the whole reason they made it 13 times more powerful than anything else out there.
You just have to compare the latest flagship Galaxy S7 with the Shield TV to see that.
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Yup. Just a pity its let down by the latest v3.0 upgrade.

Better off getting an Amazon Fire TV 4K if your not interested in the gaming side.

silverblack said:
Better off getting an Amazon Fire TV 4K if your not interested in the gaming side.
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No no no. It doesn't even have close to the future standard of 4k video will be. It is 30hz, not hdmi 2.0, doesn't support 10 bit color, etc, etc. The shield is the only thing that wll still work with 4k netflx in a couple years everything else will be deemed "outdated".

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No no no. It doesn't even have close to the future standard of 4k video will be. It is 30hz, not hdmi 2.0, doesn't support 10 bit color, etc, etc. The shield is the only thing that wll still work with 4k netflx in a couple years everything else will be deemed "outdated".
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Well seeing as i dont have a 4K TV those setting are irrelevent at the moment.
Also the Fire TV is £85 cheaper than the Shield just now so yes,yes yes :good:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00UH2O6T2/ref=fs_aftv

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Well seeing as i dont have a 4K TV those setting are irrelevent at the moment.
Also the Fire TV is £85 cheaper than the Shield just now so yes,yes yes :good:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00UH2O6T2/ref=fs_aftv
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If you don't have a 4k tv then yes I guess don't get the shield. Without 4k it's just a big toy to be honest.

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If you don't have a 4k tv then yes I guess don't get the shield. Without 4k it's just a big toy to be honest.
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Thats why i have one love gadgets :good:

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If you don't have a 4k tv then yes I guess don't get the shield. Without 4k it's just a big toy to be honest.
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Nice. Got the item delivered today. It's upgrading it to 3.0 on its own.
Considering that I do have a 4K TV, good investment.
Thanks guys.

To be honest, yes it's the best buy you can make. There are some issuies with 3.0, but they are fixing it. Also keep in mind that you can bevefit from allot of feautres of the shield tv like if you have a GTX GPU

Price on the hardware is going down, more and more reasons to own one over time, and the AnTutu benchmark app listed my shield android tv (with tons of apps running in the background) as being nearly twice the total performance overall of the 2nd place result. It's not the best of everything, but where it shines ... it shines a lot , where it's not the best, it's still able to compete with some of the best out there. It's been out about a year, and yet it's still the highest performing device. It plays everything you throw at it... and there's so much it does right that I can't suggest against owning one unless the person can't afford it.

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Better off getting an Amazon Fire TV 4K if your not interested in the gaming side.
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Please don't listen to this guy. The Shield can do HDMI 2.0, 4K output, 4:4:4 chroma, bitstream audio,etc, etc. Basically the newest most current technology.

Gasaraki- said:
Please don't listen to this guy. The Shield can do HDMI 2.0, 4K output, 4:4:4 chroma, bitstream audio,etc, etc. Basically the newest most current technology.
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Thats great if your interested in all that crap but im not !
Oh and BTW i have a Shield. !

Shield 2?

I'm looking at picking up a Shield TV in the next few months, but wanted to see if there might be a newer version coming out. I know the Roku releases new models every year or so, and it's been about a year since the release of the Shield. Is there any buzz about a new/upcoming version out there?
Thanks

If a new version were to come out in the near future it would most likely be another mobile device & not a set top box

I would agree on this. SATV still offers the best hardware, and next software update will continue to add features (youtube 4k 60fps for example).
I don't really see what a Shield 2 could offer more right now, I mean besides more perfs but as of today nothing trumps the SATV 1.
A new Shield tablet would benefit on the contrary from a SOC pascal-based for example, since the SOC it's using now is older than the one in SATV

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I would agree on this. SATV still offers the best hardware, and next software update will continue to add features (youtube 4k 60fps for example).
I don't really see what a Shield 2 could offer more right now, I mean besides more perfs but as of today nothing trumps the SATV 1.
A new Shield tablet would benefit on the contrary from a SOC pascal-based for example, since the SOC it's using now is older than the one in SATV
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The next software update hit a pop-fly right outta left field with the Shield TV being a full Plex Media Server now with transcoding too.

Its out of stock everywhere even on the Nvidia website so something is happening.

There is an FCC filing for a new one, which is a pretty good indicator.
http://www.aftvnews.com/new-nvidia-shield-tv-passes-through-the-fcc/
Also I saw something on reddit, when someone asked why it was out of stock everywhere, but this was mostly speculation.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AndroidTV/comments/50nzud/nvidia_shield_tv_discontinued/
I would say chances are pretty good that a new SATV is on the way. Timing and release date would be hard to pin down.

just to temper things there was an fcc filing for a new tablet and that didnt happen , admittedly the lack of stock does usually hint at a new release but who knows if its just a rev of the same setup
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As for the discontinued Tablet 2, that was considered due to nVidia providing the SoC for Nintendo's NX (to not compete). So I guess, it's a good sign that the SATV refresh is really coming soon (until holiday season?) as the form factor is quite different. Too bad they close it down so much.

I would assume the new one would maybe be designed to be cheaper. Or maybe a removable HD would be awesome.

Let's hope nvidia don't axe it completely. They have been known to do more professional and ODM stuff then consumer, and the switch is comming.

Surprised nobody has mentioned this.
https://www.nvidia.co.uk/shield/

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Surprised nobody has mentioned this.
https://www.nvidia.co.uk/shield/
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not sure its a shield 2, just appears slightly smaller with a different gamepad. hardware spec seems to be the same
the new rear layout
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/nvidia-shield-tv-pro-media-streamer-500gb-tegra-x1-processor-3gb-ram-4k-hdr-ready-hdmi-gbe-2xusb-30-
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the old layout
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/nvidia-shield-pro-500gb-including-controller-android-tv-4k-video-and-cloud-gaming

It's definitely the new Shield or as good as it going to get.
Lost the Sd card slot now.
Same innards and a re-design,mostly extra software features that the original Shield will get too.

Mid gen console refresh, loosing sdcard and a better gamepad you can buy to use in old model too. That's all.
"Old" model will get Nougat as an OS upgrade and will have the same functionality.

Why on earth would they take the sd card out?

HDMI port is now 2.0b
And it looks like it also lost the IR receiver.

does the original not have 2.0b

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Why on earth would they take the sd card out?
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it's still there, look a the amazon picture of the back of it, it's better quality.
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61OJ4TODznL._SL1500_.jpg
i'm curious if this will support side loading apps without root and how easy it is to root before i fork up the cash for this thing.
going to wait a bit for customer feedback first before i buy imo.

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HDMI port is now 2.0b
And it looks like it also lost the IR receiver.
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HUYI said:
it's still there, look a the amazon picture of the back of it, it's better quality.
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61OJ4TODznL._SL1500_.jpg
i'm curious if this will support side loading apps without root and how easy it is to root before i fork up the cash for this thing.
going to wait a bit for customer feedback first before i buy imo.
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Looking at the spec sheet on nVidias website, it looks like only the pro version has the ir receiver, micro sd, and micro usb connection. Semi-confirmed by amazon closeups.

Is this really worth calling it a Sheild TV2? It seems to me it's more like a Shield TV Slim. As to the IR Port, until we start seeing the first YouTube reviews crop up. I'll continue to trust the released Spec Sheet that states that it'll have one.
On that same topic, both the Gamepad, and Remote on the 2017 Models should also come with an IR Blaster. nNot for the Shield, which uses either Bluetooth 4.1 BLE, or WiFi Direct. But to control other AVrs, and TVs.