The widgets drawer is a poorly implmented feature. - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Ever since it was introduced no phone has been able to quickly swipe through it without lag. I thought that the galaxy S3 had lag in the drawer because of lack of ram but its shocking to see that even the nexus 4 widget drawer has lag if you swipe very fast.
Whats most puzzling is that the widget drawer is only showing static widgets so I dont understand why it is so demanding. Seems like its not handled properly in the framework or something.

Top it that with live wallpaper

It's totally fine on mine and a lot of others phones. The reason the S3 lags is cause of the touchwiz skin weighing it down. Touchwiz sucks. That's why nexus-es with stock roms FTW!
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JamesInsights said:
It's totally fine on mine and a lot of others phones. The reason the S3 lags is cause of the touchwiz skin weighing it down. Touchwiz sucks. That's why nexus-es with stock roms FTW!
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Try to swipe through the widgets as fast as you can and you will see lag for sure....

i'm using nova launcher with vertical drawer. scrolls fast with no lag or stuttering for me.
just switched it to horizontal and it's fine also. mind you, it stops at each page so i'm not sure if that might be what you're mistaking for lag.

JamesInsights said:
It's totally fine on mine and a lot of others phones. The reason the S3 lags is cause of the touchwiz skin weighing it down. Touchwiz sucks. That's why nexus-es with stock roms FTW!
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Nexii?

Running like a champ here. No lag, but I'm running the xperia z launcher so the widgets are set up differently in the widget drawer
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I don't get why people purposely try to lag down their phone by doing something they would never do in daily use (opening and closing as many apps as possible as fast as they can, swiping around as fast as humanly possible, etc) and then complain about lag? Just use the phone then see if it lags

username8611 said:
I don't get why people purposely try to lag down their phone by doing something they would never do in daily use (opening and closing as many apps as possible as fast as they can, swiping around as fast as humanly possible, etc) and then complain about lag? Just use the phone then see if it lags
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Nah, that's too logical for the internet
@OP, I see what you mean and I experience the same thing but only if I actually try to make it lag. It's probably due to some sort of lack of optimisation, but tbh I just sorted out my homescreen once and don't really go back and reorganise it so I don't see any issues. I know that you're not complaining but just asking about it, so I thought I'd confirm that I have the same experience.

SeraldoBabalu said:
i'm using nova launcher with vertical drawer. scrolls fast with no lag or stuttering for me.
just switched it to horizontal and it's fine also. mind you, it stops at each page so i'm not sure if that might be what you're mistaking for lag.
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For some reason the widget drawer is much faster with vertical scrolling.
Nova launcher just delays the animation in the widget drawer if it can't show it fast enough but on stock launcher it will actually cause a stutter. The developer of nova launcher is an absolute genius.
I still don't see a technical reason why a nexus 4 can't just blaze through the widget drawer.
The guy talking about the xperia Z launcher well its handled very differently and mind you more efficiently in Sony launcher.
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username8611 said:
I don't get why people purposely try to lag down their phone by doing something they would never do in daily use (opening and closing as many apps as possible as fast as they can, swiping around as fast as humanly possible, etc) and then complain about lag? Just use the phone then see if it lags
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Actually this isn't true for this case. When I want to select a widget that's at the end of the drawer then I would swipe as fast as I can to get to it. Infinite scrolling causes even more performance issues with the widget drawer mind you so that's not a better option in this scenario.
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It does lag, it's true.
I run stock now but have tried all different roms and kernel combinations. And then all different governor/scheduler combinations. Swiping quickly through widgets always produces lag after a few pages. Even using nova/apex.
It doesn't bother me anymore (used to when I was a crack flasher), but it's undeniable.

Just install a different launcher like Nova lag free.
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Nigeldg said:
Nah, that's too logical for the internet
@OP, I see what you mean and I experience the same thing but only if I actually try to make it lag. It's probably due to some sort of lack of optimisation, but tbh I just sorted out my homescreen once and don't really go back and reorganise it so I don't see any issues. I know that you're not complaining but just asking about it, so I thought I'd confirm that I have the same experience.
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Yeah this.
Logically this is a non issue for me. Mine lags (4.2.2) but I'd never noticed it because that's not the way I use the phone.
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Ok, so my phone is normal. I thought it was my phone. I see the hesitations and stutter only in widget draw running completely stock.
It doesn't bother me that much, but I am curious to know why that is only in widget section.

I can't reproduce this lag in my widget drawer. Using a CM based rom (modaco cm kang r9) with Trebuchet. Just saw a slight lag / stutter with Buzz launcher but I can't see it with Nova
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I'm experiencing this too. Thought i was the only one!
It happens occasionally on mine though when i swipe real fast. Sometimes it lags terribly, like, i could see the pages stutter and struggle to load the widgets. And sometimes it's just super smooth.
Don't know for sure, but maybe it has something to do with some of the apps installed. Because the lag always happens on the exact same pages i swipe through. Mine is on the first 3 to be exact. And that's where all of my google widgets are placed, strangely.
Maybe it's just an issue with my device though. Running rooted stock 4.2.2 btw.

No lag here. I turned off animations and am using Nova launcher and I am underclocked to 1.2ghz.

No lag in widget drawer for me even when I swipe it unrealistically quickly. Stock 4.2.2, Franco kernel with default settings.
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steviewevie said:
No lag in widget drawer for me even when I swipe it unrealistically quickly. Stock 4.2.2, Franco kernel with default settings.
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Works perfectly fine here also with CM + Nova + Franco kernel.
No lag at all.

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Stock Homescreen or Launcher Pro/AWD?

Just curious to know if using LP/AWD launchers instead of the stock 2.3 home screens causes any hiccups/lags? Or does it run even better?
How many of you have opted to use LP/AWD, instead of stock?
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Just curious to know if using LP/AWD launchers instead of the stock 2.3 home screens causes any hiccups/lags? Or does it run even better?
How many of you have opted to use LP/AWD, instead of stock?
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Using launcher pro at the mo without any issues. Nice and smooth.
I'm using launcher pro. It's just as smooth as the stock launcher, and I prefer the 4 dock shortcuts to the the 2 in the stock.
There is an issue with the 3D app drawer, it doesn't work properly, so I had to turn off that feature. I'm sure the dev will update for Gingerbread soon enough. 3D drawer is cool, but not a deal breaker for me.
LauncherPro Plus always.
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Launcher Pro Plus
Using ADW Launcher. I think I might go back to stock though because I love the new app drawer effects and whatnot.
Launcher pro plus, can't beat its widgets
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Using LP, needed/wanted the 7 screens.
Stock
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No problems for me. I prefer the options of launcher pro.
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Launcher Pro Plus for the awesome Widgets, five column launcher, and the four app dock bar. I also like the sliding additional docks more than ADWs flip up one.
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Do you guys using Launcher Pro have the 3D app drawer bug? (Basically you can't slow scroll, only flick scroll).
distortedloop said:
Do you guys using Launcher Pro have the 3D app drawer bug? (Basically you can't slow scroll, only flick scroll).
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Yea, there's a bug, you'll have to wait til the dev updates it if you want to use the 3d drawer. Personally, I use the regular drawer. LauncherPro Plus all the way, great app.
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Yea, there's a bug, you'll have to wait til the dev updates it if you want to use the 3d drawer. Personally, I use the regular drawer. LauncherPro Plus all the way, great app.
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Yes, that's what I'm doing. I posted a bug report on the dev's website several days ago, but no response from him yet. I'm patient, though.
When people were reporting here "using launcher pro with no problems" I thought they might have meant including the 3D app drawer.
All my phones ever get is Launcher Pro Plus!
LauncherPro Plus.....
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I was really hoping to remain stock Android, but I've caved and switched over to AWD. Gingerbread is chalk full of glitches - for example, sometimes when attempting to move icon apps on home screens, they'll automatically snap back into place, and/or sometimes disappear altogether without having gone anywhere near the trash can. AWD does not have this problem whatsoever. There are a slew of other odd glitches with GB. I hope 2.3.2 addresses some of these bugs.
I made the switch to ADW EX from LPP. I like how ADW handles the icon labels more, and the transition effects are sweet.
I'm probably going with Launcher Pro, but Santa FedEx hasn't shown up yet with my new toy.
I got used to LP very quickly, after being rudely hit about the head with that wonderful TouchWiz. I might try out the stock launcher just for s&g, but I suspect I will need more than 5 home screens. I haven't found any reason to go for LP Pro yet.
I use ADW, may upgrade to ADW EX once it's got a bit more version history to prove it's worth the cash. I'm not zealously defensive of any particular launcher, though. Some people like stock, some people like Launcher Pro, some people like ADW, et cetera.
If you're not totally happy with what came on your phone, shop around! Try out some alternatives and find one that you enjoy using. Since we're talking entirely about UI here, you, the user, are the one in the best position to make the choice. ADW.Launcher and Launcher Pro are both free. Their paid versions add features, but you should be able to tell whether you like them or not from the free ones. It's not really important what other people use, what you should use is the one you like.

An interesting development on the laggy app drawer issue

I know I'm not the only one with the problem of the laggy app drawer. When you first open it, it's perfectly smooth. Then, if you leave it alone for a second and use it again, it's extremely slow. It happens on any Acer-based rom, including unrooted stock.
Well, here's an interesting fact: This only happens with a static wallpaper. The issue goes away with a live wallpaper.
Why is this happening? Is it a problem with the launcher or the rom?
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Electrodeath0 said:
I know I'm not the only one with the problem of the laggy app drawer. When you first open it, it's perfectly smooth. Then, if you leave it alone for a second and use it again, it's extremely slow. It happens on any Acer-based rom, including unrooted stock.
Well, here's an interesting fact: This only happens with a static wallpaper. The issue goes away with a live wallpaper.
Why is this happening? Is it a problem with the launcher or the rom?
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Wow, that is interesting.
I have noticed that some people experience this issue, and some of them don't. My app drawer does get slow and laggy, but its more just a bit choppy than anything else. It doesn't really bother me so I never worried about it too much.
To be honest, I hadn't noticed that either. However, based on your description, it sounds like the live wallpaper prevents the cpu governor from underclocking (by virtue of the fact that it's more cpu-intensive, thus requiring the cpu to operate at a higher clock), thus preventing initial lag. Just hazarding a guess, though.
finally a thread about this. Here's what I know. I don't think its the CPU scaling because I've tried to fix this. It still happens even when I force it to 1.4 ghz+ the only rom without this problem is virtuous xoom. And it doenst seem to be the launcher. I've tried swapping them around
stock rooted 3.2 and cant make it happan, using reg walpapper. Did not see on previous versions.
I have seen this on other 3.2 tablets... I assume its a gpu thing or just a bug in 3.2
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Sounds like the problem is on Acer's end. Email time!
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looks like it is hc 3.2 issue - i wasn't experiencing this on hc 3.1 roms
i was trying as well find out the reason...
only thing what i found out - when the lag is there - killing any of running apss will kill the lag for some seconds as well and the app drawer become smooth again.
tested with quick system info pro.
Its the otherway round for me.......the app drawer lags a lot when i use live wallpaper and lags a little less when i use a static wallpaper....i think it depends on the kind of (live or static) wallpaper used on the device.....
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It just always lags for me, but as I said earlier, it isn't enough to piss me off or anything. It's only a slight lag.
Everytime I see lag I just tell myself ics will be open source and one of our fine devs will make this awesome
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Curious
I dont have a app drawer that lags but out of curiosity would someone with a laggy app drawer plug in a mouse to their unit and scroll the app drawer using that mouse. See if it makes a difference.
app draw lag
Could you explain app draw lag for me please?

Two annoyances

Hi all,
So far km loving the tab apart from three thing:
1. It takes more than 1 second to turn the screen on after lock, why?
2. Rotation of the screen and swiping homescreens is jerky and slow
3. Gmail keeps crashing
Anyone else noticing this?
My desire s phone is more smooth on transitions and quicker to unlock.
Makes the look a bit cap when trying to show why it's better than an ipad
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same experience for 1 & 2
Non of those problems but I am using adw ex not stock launcher
I also suffers wake delay and laggy rotation. My single core phone with ics is way faster.
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bountygiver said:
I also suffers wake delay and laggy rotation. My single core phone with ics is way faster.
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I think delay is normal as this is the systems problem but I never experience laggy rotation.
K999rrl said:
Non of those problems but I am using adw ex not stock launcher
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adw launcher solves the rotation and swipe homescreen issues but not others points ... I have same behaviour, including occasional gmail fc
The Note was/is the same way. Custom ROMs usually fix these two issues, but there are only a few 6800 ROMS out and NO 6810 ROMs
The wake delay exists for all the touchwiz devices as far as I know, occurs with my galaxy S2 when it is on battery due to the fact the cpu is throttled down to save on battery. When plugged into the wall the delay is absent.
Thx all for the replies, glad I'm not the only one suffering this.
Just wish a nice plain Google only ics rom would hurry up and appear!
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furius said:
adw launcher solves the rotation and swipe homescreen issues but not others points ... I have same behaviour, including occasional gmail fc
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i am using adw but i still have to wait for the wallpaper to refresh everytime i rotate the tab.
Wait a little for ICS and you will be in heavens
Btw I have the same problems but a democracy has always a lot of problems but it is democracy....thank for that
And not so bad problems...
I've never had Gmail FC on me, for those who claim or will claim they dont have any wake up delay.. post a video.

[Q] Stock or Nova/Apex launcher?

Are you guys using the stock launcher or nova/apex? I've stuck with stock so far cause the performance is great but I was thinking about installing Nova for the extra features and what not. How is the performance on Nova/apex for those that are using them?
I use Apex and it works nicely
espionage724 said:
I use Apex and it works nicely
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Sweet. Just as smooth as stock?
I'm a huge fan of Nova on my Nexus 7 but don't find that it looks particularly good on the 10. The issue is the the smallest dock height is way too tall so the icons get scaled up and do the look sharp. Once I figure out how to solve that I'll go back to the Nova.
hillkwaj said:
I'm a huge fan of Nova on my Nexus 7 but don't find that it looks particularly good on the 10. The issue is the the smallest dock height is way too tall so the icons get scaled up and do the look sharp. Once I figure out how to solve that I'll go back to the Nova.
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Easiest way to solve this is to turn the dock off, and just line up your icons ...
windedbison said:
Sweet. Just as smooth as stock?
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Nope not Apex (or Nova).
Definitely not as smooth scrolling home pages. Maybe doesn't bug others, it does me tho
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I use ADW EX, and it's silky smooth.
Varekai said:
I use ADW EX, and it's silky smooth.
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I use nova on my gnex and love it, but actually prefer ADW Ex on this.
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skibadee said:
Nope not Apex (or Nova).
Definitely not as smooth scrolling home pages. Maybe doesn't bug others, it does me tho
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I only use a single home page, so I wouldn't know
Using Apex. Got rid of all widgets on both launchers and they're evenly smooth. Apex's transition speed is a lot faster, so it may look like it's getting "caught" and then moving quickly. I slowed down the transitions, and they look more or less the same now.
I want 3 home screens and use a few widgets so not good for me, which is annoying as you can't lower the number of stock home screens.
Thought I'd tried adw already, have full version of that too. Was sure it was worse than apex/nova but I shall give it a try later.
Used to use it on my s3 until jelly bean. Not sure if it's the jelly bean optimisation or what? but to me nothing runs as smooth as stock since jb on both my devices, even TW!
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Nexus seems slow

My phone seems overall kind of laggy. I'm on stock 4.2.1 with stock kernel. Just started noticing the lag today. Minimal but annoying and seems to exist on almost all the kernels I have tried.
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IRX120 said:
My phone seems overall kind of laggy. I'm on stock 4.2.1 with stock kernel. Just started noticing the lag today. Minimal but annoying and seems to exist on almost all the kernels I have tried.
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It's cheap and dirty, but I always set animations to half speed (.5x) and use Nova launcher with the animations cranked to fast. That makes me feel all warm inside.
My advice would be to root and flash a custom ROM such as Parandroid.
IRX120 said:
My phone seems overall kind of laggy. I'm on stock 4.2.1 with stock kernel. Just started noticing the lag today. Minimal but annoying and seems to exist on almost all the kernels I have tried.
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How exactly are you defining 'lag' though? I'm on a rooted stock ROM and stock kernel with no issues whatsoever, speed is much faster than any phone I've used before.
I have tonnes of apps installed on the stock ROM. Runs okay at the moment, beautifully smooth
there is definitely lag on the touch gestures. i see it and it's been commented-on in reviews.
eg. when you gesture to scroll or pinch expand there is a momentary delay (fraction of a second) before anything happens. just long enough to be annoying. it's not instant.
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there is definitely lag on the touch gestures. i see it and it's been commented-on in reviews.
eg. when you gesture to scroll or pinch expand there is a momentary delay (fraction of a second) before anything happens. just long enough to be annoying. it's not instant.
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That's because of the poor touch screen sensitivity of the phone.
theabsurdman said:
there is definitely lag on the touch gestures. i see it and it's been commented-on in reviews.
eg. when you gesture to scroll or pinch expand there is a momentary delay (fraction of a second) before anything happens. just long enough to be annoying. it's not instant.
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That's not lag, that's just the lack of sensitivity in the touch screen. It's hardware related but if you look at this video from oode (definitely subscribe to him for quality tech videos) it appears that this issue isn't there in Firefox for some reason. As of now I don't know of any solution as such.
Nigeldg said:
How exactly are you defining 'lag' though? I'm on a rooted stock ROM and stock kernel with no issues whatsoever, speed is much faster than any phone I've used before.
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Just the occasional freeze for a second on opening the keyboard or apps, seems slower than last week when I got it.
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OK, I installed the touch increase mod and the lag is better
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