Hey guys,
I got my N10 in the very first batch, bought it on day one, so it's been around six months now. Lately, for the past month or so, I've been starting to experience some slowdowns, and it's starting to be hurting my experience a lot. My Chrome app, for instance, takes a long time to register, and if I press on the "Home" button to go back to my launcher, the button is highlighted in white for 5 seconds before effectively going back on the home menu. Does anyone know what can be done about that? I'm considering a factory reset, but I'd rather keep my saved data and files for my apps and not go through backing up my dozens of apps. Thanks
ttige said:
Hey guys,
I got my N10 in the very first batch, bought it on day one, so it's been around six months now. Lately, for the past month or so, I've been starting to experience some slowdowns, and it's starting to be hurting my experience a lot. My Chrome app, for instance, takes a long time to register, and if I press on the "Home" button to go back to my launcher, the button is highlighted in white for 5 seconds before effectively going back on the home menu. Does anyone know what can be done about that? I'm considering a factory reset, but I'd rather keep my saved data and files for my apps and not go through backing up my dozens of apps. Thanks
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First, don't use Chrome, it still sucks when compared to the AOSP browser, download the app Greenify from the store and use SD maid to delete all the unneeded stuff you have on your Nexus.:good:
You could try doing a factory reset and perhaps try installing a new ROM or kernel whilst you are at it as there can be speed gains with some of the alternatives to stock. It doesn't really take long to back up your apps with the right program. Have you looked at titanium backup?
ttige said:
Hey guys,
I got my N10 in the very first batch, bought it on day one, so it's been around six months now. Lately, for the past month or so, I've been starting to experience some slowdowns, and it's starting to be hurting my experience a lot. My Chrome app, for instance, takes a long time to register, and if I press on the "Home" button to go back to my launcher, the button is highlighted in white for 5 seconds before effectively going back on the home menu. Does anyone know what can be done about that? I'm considering a factory reset, but I'd rather keep my saved data and files for my apps and not go through backing up my dozens of apps. Thanks
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I assume you have done a shutdown and restart? I was getting slow responses and that cured it for me.
Alan
Even chrome beta is a large improvement over chrome. Most of the ROMs have large speed ups over stock so I would suggest that or at least a new kernel if you don't want to back everything up.
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Fidelator said:
First, don't use Chrome, it still sucks when compared to the AOSP browser, download the app Greenify from the store and use SD maid to delete all the unneeded stuff you have on your Nexus.:good:
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I'm going to do that, thanks a lot! I used Dolphin for a little while but never really liked it, so I came back to Chrome, I'll look at some other browsers though. I'll look at new ROMs and Kernels as well, I've been wanting to try paranoid android for a while.
Thanks people!
Sv: Slowdown
When I only have about 2gb or even 3 I think the sdcard gets awfully slow for me. I have 32gb version. Drop from 20mb write speed to below 5. And a lot of things are really slow. Cleaning up to get some more space solves it for me. Has happened twice so far. Not sure I my nexus is bad or if this is normal but a hint is to check your sdcard speed.
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I've experienced similar issues but i can say much of my slowness started immediately after the 4.2.2 update. Prior to the update, my N10 was performed flawlessly. I don't use chrome and will try out Greenify and SD Maid and see if that helps.
Quick update: I realized today that I thought my N10 was rooted, while it actually wasn't. I used the N10 rooting toolkit a month or so ago, and I thought it worked, but didn't actually try it. However, Greenify kept telling me to grant it SU and I ended up noticing I couldn't actually explore the root in ES File Manager, so I did a root and flashed the KManta kernel.
So far, it's EXTREMELY smooth, just like when I got it. However, having only 500mb of apps on it helps, hehehe.
I also received my Patriot Node, on which I'll put all my media files from now on. I am going to experiment to see which ones work and which ones don't.
I also deleted all the useless apps I had (which can be many). I am not sure of what I lost exactly, but I'm sure I didn't lose anythinig important, except for my Mass Effect Infiltrator save. Whatever
I almost flashed Paranoid Android, but then I figured I like the stock rom and didn't need a different one.
As for KManta, does the fast charger actually work? What does it do? The thread here on XDA doesn't say much, is there any way to have more info on its features?
ttige said:
As for KManta, does the fast charger actually work? What does it do? The thread here on XDA doesn't say much, is there any way to have more info on its features?
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It supposedly makes charging faster when connected to a computer usb port... I've never tried as I don't have a PC
I can tell you it does nothing when charging from the power adapter
Fast charge AFAIK is not implemented for our kernel yet
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oh ok, great, good to know, thanks guys!
Just a noob question.. Assuming I don't change any value, is this kernel still supposed to be faster than the stock one?
Also, I'm guessing undervolting will make it slightly less powerful but eat less battery whereas survolting it will add to performance and kill the battery (and the hardware)?
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Hello all. Well, last night I rooted my phone and then was going to install the original wireless tether app that Jr33 did.
My problem is when I tried to make a backup after it rooted I now get this:
Opening update package...
E:Can't open /cach/update.zip
(bad)
Installation aborted.
From here I can reboot or reinstall but it does the same thing and just brings me back to rebooted with no backup made as far as I can tell. There's never a choice to select nandroid.
Is there something I'm missing here? Is my update.zip corrupted? Or any suggestions on what to do next?
Thanks
did you install Clockwork recovery post-root? That places a new update.zip in your internal SD that is needed for taking and restoring nandroid backups.
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I downloaded the update.zip file again. Gives me the same error message.
I think I think I had ROM Manager installed before I rooted but I hadn't run anything in the software yet. (Can't quite remember, slept since then)
Go to Rom Manager, pick the Vibrant as your phone, top option will be to download and install clockwork recovery. Once this is done you can make a nandroid backup inside clockwork recovery... You can use rom manager to boot into it (NOT the stock recovery)
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That worked. Picked Vibrant as my phone. Then it didn't error out and I could get to the screen where I could choose nandroid. Ran the backup. Rebooted & ran the Mobile AP. It works too. Now maybe lag fix next... Thanks!
^ why bother with the lag fix? Froyo is coming this month... patience.
Mostly because the lag on my phone drives me crazy, I might wait for 2.2 though. Lots of reading before I pull the trigger on the lag fix. Seems like lots of people are on the fence as to if they're happy with it or not and I'm not a fan of unintended consequences.
FWIW, this is my 2nd phone & the first was less laggy than this one, but it drained batteries like no tomorrow. Never got more than 5hrs out of a fully charged battery. This phone has gone 18hrs but usually more like 12.
^ that sounds absurd to me (5 hours)....
when you say "lag"... what exactly are you seeing that makes you say it's laggy? Sounds like a basic question, but if you can, please explain.... Do you mean the app drawer/moving screens, etc.... do you mean opening apps?
I would suggest trying LauncerPro.
It was absurd. I unplugged once at midnight fully charged and went to bed. Didn't wake up in time for work because the phone didn't make it to 6:30 when my alarm was supposed to go off. I exchanged it that day after work.
The "lag" I consider is mostly opening & closing applications. Like when I'm in gmail and I hit the home or back button to go to the home screen. I press & then wait what feels like half a second for the phone to respond. Other examples are in Craigsnotification when I want to mark something as read or want to go back a screen and it just hangs there for a second. The other phone was much faster with this. With this processor I expect applications to open virtually as fast as I can press the icon.
I'll try out LauncherPro, thanks.
Re: lag - I'm not sure, but it seems to me that syncing operations in the background seem to cause slow response times, or lag, if you will.
Might help to look into what applications you have running, ex. Facebook, twitter, etc and try decreasing the sync frequency.
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If you are rooted you may also want to try Autostarts (or a similar app) that will prevent apps from starting during certain tasks (bootup, texts, emails, etc). It may help... I really do not notice the lag people always talk about. I also came from a CM5 G1 to the Vibrant, so perhaps it is relative.
The lag was pretty bad on mine. Black screen for a few seconds as I was switching between apps or opening/closing them. It wasn't like it was the worst thing in the world or anything, but it was definitely enough to notice and gnaw at me daily.
At the time, I thought it was unrelated but the native Email app (which I synched up to my work email) was simply craptastic, to the point of me going back to my work-issued Treo 750 to simply read and reply to emails given how absurdly slow and non-responsive the Email app was.
Anyway, I downloaded RyanZA's One-click Lag .apk from the Market, applied it, and I couldn't be happier with my phone. Now it feels like the phone I expected it to be when I bought it, no more lag, it's super-responsive, and it also fixed my email app issues. The Email app is seriously a night and day difference after applying the lag fix, I really like it now and use it daily.
My wife has an unrooted stock Vibrant (she's not as adventurous I guess) and we both use Launcher Pro. After the Lag Fix I handed my phone to her and told her to mess around with opening up apps, streaming pandora, surfing, etc. She said it was definitely much faster than her phone and more responsive.
Re: possible adverse consequences... well, that's what nandroid backups are for, I guess. Between Clockwork/nandroid backups I've taken, both the rooted and unrooted stock update.zip files provided here at XDA, and the option to flash to stock via ODIN, I felt that those things were enough to mitigate the risk of applying the lag fix to my phone, including the mods I've applied like applying the MobileAP and Captivate camera .zips. YMMV.
This is my first Android phone, coming from Blackberry Curve 8320. I really expected it would be a giant leap in performance considering the Vibrant is 3x faster than the Curve. I about took it back the first day because the Facebook app was so unbelievably slow and lacking features compared to the BB app, I about threw it across the room a few times waiting for things to load.
I was stuck on EDGE with the BB with my d/l speed somewhere around 800kbps compared to I regularly hit 6Mbps with the Vibrant on 3G. Inexplicable to me why it takes as long as it does to function. I'm replacing my cable internet with wireless tethering so the 3G was important to me.
Launcher Pro seems to be a noticeable improvement in speed. I'm going to miss the full screen Updates widget... Have to figure out a replacement.
Most likely I'll pull the trigger on the lag fix, too impatient. If only the GPS worked the majority of the time... Going on a 1500 mile road trip next week and I know I'll be cussing at this thing. Even without GPS on the BB as long as I had internet at least I could always figure out where I was.
Thanks for everyone's responses, very helpful. I'm sure I'll love this thing eventually, hopefully.
OP,
not sure if you tried this but try rebooting into clockwork recovery and doing a nandroid from there. two ways to do that, once you have the clockwork update.zip in sd root:
1. with the clockwork app. option reboot into clockwork recovery
2. turn phone off > turn phone on while holding power and vol +/- > install update zip > you should now be in clockwork recovery
I updated my phone to Bell Gingerbread 2.3.4 last week but it seems to me Froyo was much more responsive and was simply... better!
Here are the problems I've been dealing with:
-Scrolling the front pages from left to right on the home screens are not as fluid and the screen touch response seems it has a certain delay compared to Froyo.
-In the Music app, when you are in an Artist's album and you want to go back to the previous page (by clicking the back button), it directs you straight to the first artist on your list.
-The battery runs out faster
-The phone always has trouble getting 3G data connection when it enters an area that has network after being in an area without it.
-Updating apps from the market is soooo much slower than it used to be and it always messes up because the same app is downloading 3, 4, 5 times simultaneously...
-In the Gallery app, when in Landscape mode, let's say you scroll from right to left, you have to wait till the animation stops so that you scroll back the other way... If it hasn't stopped scrolling, it will not respond by swiping the other way.
-The start-up takes FOREVER to load and it always gets stuck about a minute or two in that "Dual-core Technology" logo...
-When calling someone, if you press the power button to avoid false contact between your face and the screen, when you finish talking and you want to press "End Call", you have to push the power button once more to re-open the screen.
I understand all those points are minor problems, but they're numerous and it upsets me that a phone with this much hardware capability isn't getting the proper update. I dunno, I just want to know if you guys have been dealing these problems as well, and if you know what I can do to fix them, it would be great!
Thanks in advance!!
Gjm127 said:
I updated my phone to Bell Gingerbread 2.3.4 last week but it seems to me Froyo was much more responsive and was simply... better!
Here are the problems I've been dealing with:
-Scrolling the front pages from left to right on the home screens are not as fluid and the screen touch response seems it has a certain delay compared to Froyo.
-In the Music app, when you are in an Artist's album and you want to go back to the previous page (by clicking the back button), it directs you straight to the first artist on your list.
-The battery runs out faster
-The phone always has trouble getting 3G data connection when it enters an area that has network after being in an area without it.
-Updating apps from the market is soooo much slower than it used to be and it always messes up because the same app is downloading 3, 4, 5 times simultaneously...
-In the Gallery app, when in Landscape mode, let's say you scroll from right to left, you have to wait till the animation stops so that you scroll back the other way... If it hasn't stopped scrolling, it will not respond by swiping the other way.
-The start-up takes FOREVER to load and it always gets stuck about a minute or two in that "Dual-core Technology" logo...
-When calling someone, if you press the power button to avoid false contact between your face and the screen, when you finish talking and you want to press "End Call", you have to push the power button once more to re-open the screen.
I understand all those points are minor problems, but they're numerous and it upsets me that a phone with this much hardware capability isn't getting the proper update. I dunno, I just want to know if you guys have been dealing these problems as well, and if you know what I can do to fix them, it would be great!
Thanks in advance!!
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the most upsetting one is the battery life. I could go for 2-3 days without recharging the phone. Now I can barely do 1 day. And I'm a really light user. I dont have data plan and just use wi-fi where availiable. I think its super weird that this update made the phone worse.
The only saving grace is the addition of zoom on camera and separate notification cancel. Thats about it.
I have not been facing any of these issues. For the battery, completely drain the battery until it dies and then charge it to 100% without unplugging it. Also, if you are a light user and are not on the phone all the time, I suggest using Maximum Battery Saver as the battery mode. Right now, I am running Bell GB with both suggestions, have 40% battery remaining and have been on the phone for over 16 hours on medium usage. I actually like the update quite a bit.
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I have not been facing any of these issues. For the battery, completely drain the battery until it dies and then charge it to 100% without unplugging it. Also, if you are a light user and are not on the phone all the time, I suggest using Maximum Battery Saver as the battery mode. Right now, I am running Bell GB with both suggestions, have 40% battery remaining and have been on the phone for over 16 hours on medium usage. I actually like the update quite a bit.
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thanks I'll drain it today.
Does anyone else have these issues aswell? What can I do to fix them??
How long are you suppose to get with the ATRIX battery.
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Doing a factory data reset after an upgrade fixes 99% of the problems
TheMan0790 said:
I have not been facing any of these issues. For the battery, completely drain the battery until it dies and then charge it to 100% without unplugging it. Also, if you are a light user and are not on the phone all the time, I suggest using Maximum Battery Saver as the battery mode. Right now, I am running Bell GB with both suggestions, have 40% battery remaining and have been on the phone for over 16 hours on medium usage. I actually like the update quite a bit.
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even i have bitter experience with GB update.especially because battery goes down very fast. its lasts half the time it used to when i had Froyo.
i have tried many roms and drained battery couple of times as well. no help . i think i will go back to froyo
bimmerboii said:
Doing a factory data reset after an upgrade fixes 99% of the problems
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How sure are you?? Can you suggest a good backup app?
Gjm127 said:
How sure are you?? Can you suggest a good backup app?
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It's common knowledge. A lot of cache/files get left behind after an update that are no longer needed, or old copies when it should have new ones.
It's always recommended after you do an update from either OTA or Custom Rom that you do a factory reset to clear out any old data that might cause issues.
Titanium is one of the best. Doesn't backup your SMS though, so you'll need another app for that. And only restore the apps you've downloaded and their data. Don't restore any system apps or you'll be back in the same situation or worse.
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It's common knowledge. A lot of cache/files get left behind after an update that are no longer needed, or old copies when it should have new ones.
It's always recommended after you do an update from either OTA or Custom Rom that you do a factory reset to clear out any old data that might cause issues.
Titanium is one of the best. Doesn't backup your SMS though, so you'll need another app for that. And only restore the apps you've downloaded and their data. Don't restore any system apps or you'll be back in the same situation or worse.
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If Titanium is "one of the best" then what's better?... (unless you are talking about Nandroid)
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Gjm127 said:
How sure are you?? Can you suggest a good backup app?
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For backing up sms, call logs, contacts, bookmarks etc i use mybackup pro.
I dont back up my apps i just redownload them one by one as i prefer doing fresh install on a new system upgrade
Zero-K said:
Titanium is one of the best. Doesn't backup your SMS though, so you'll need another app for that. And only restore the apps you've downloaded and their data. Don't restore any system apps or you'll be back in the same situation or worse.
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...and clear any security settings (fingerprint, screen lock etc) and don't restore data relating to those. I make a mess of my phone just doing a blind batch "restore all apps and data" in TB.
J252 said:
...and clear any security settings (fingerprint, screen lock etc) and don't restore data relating to those. I make a mess of my phone just doing a blind "restore all apps and system" in TB.
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Don't use "system" backup feature on TiBu unless you are going back to the exact same ROM...
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I got my Nexus 7 in the first batch from Gamestop on the day of release. Initially, the performance was very fast, even faster than my Galaxy S2. However, after a couple of weeks now, it has become extremely slow. It is still stock, havent even rooted it. It is a 16gb model, and has close to 10gb free. I have tried clearing cache, closing all running applications, restarting but nothing really has worked.
The problem is almost every app is very slow. I get a notification of an email, i click on it and then stare at the white email screen for almost 10 sec before it opens up (the regular email app). It almost feels like a different device now than what i bought few weeks back. Other applications that run equally slow - Google Reader, Chrome, WSJ (this is perhaps the worst), Fluent News Reader. I am not much into games so havent tried a lot of them.Oh, and it is no match now to my Galaxy S2 Skyrocket or even HP Touchpad Cm9 that i got rid of last week.
I don't want to exchange it as it does not suffer from all the other problems being reported here (and am afraid that the new one might exhibit those). Please help.
Just a guess, but you most likely loaded something on it that is doing that. Check what you have installed on it, perhaps uninstalling some of the larger things to see if you can figure out what is holding it up.
Stock Nexus 7 Image
If cleaning the device does not work, you can always flash back to the stock image, which can be found on developers.google.com
Be sure to backup your apps and data!
or for the most simple of us...
Setting>Privicy>Factory reset.
That will remove any app that might be causing it.
Be warned tho, i think on this device it wipes the internal storage...
how is your WiFi signal?
seeing how almost every app require internet access, the delay could be it trying to connect.
Actually I thought that too... but my wireless signal is very strong in my small apartment and i have 30mbps line. I checked with speednet app and i am getting 13mpbs down, 4 mpbs up on nexus 7.
I am happy that this seems like my issue only - i will try to remove apps one by one to see if it helps or worst case, i will do a factory reset.
I was wondering if there are any known culprit apps responsible for memory leaks or something.
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how is your WiFi signal?
seeing how almost every app require internet access, the delay could be it trying to connect.
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I have noticed how mine has been very sluggish when there are apps upgrading in the background or installing, etc. Maybe turn off auto update for play store?
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Actually I thought that too... but my wireless signal is very strong in my small apartment and i have 30mbps line. I checked with speednet app and i am getting 13mpbs down, 4 mpbs up on nexus 7.
I am happy that this seems like my issue only - i will try to remove apps one by one to see if it helps or worst case, i will do a factory reset.
I was wondering if there are any known culprit apps responsible for memory leaks or something.
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If you send me a PM, I'll give you my email address and I can help you narrow it down by using screenshots of your app drawer.
install watchdog task manager lite, it monitors app in the background and tells you which one is causing problems.
have you tried turning off gps (location service) and see if hats the issue?
same thing
dbjunction said:
I got my Nexus 7 in the first batch from Gamestop on the day of release. Initially, the performance was very fast, even faster than my Galaxy S2. However, after a couple of weeks now, it has become extremely slow. It is still stock, havent even rooted it. It is a 16gb model, and has close to 10gb free. I have tried clearing cache, closing all running applications, restarting but nothing really has worked.
The problem is almost every app is very slow. I get a notification of an email, i click on it and then stare at the white email screen for almost 10 sec before it opens up (the regular email app). It almost feels like a different device now than what i bought few weeks back. Other applications that run equally slow - Google Reader, Chrome, WSJ (this is perhaps the worst), Fluent News Reader. I am not much into games so havent tried a lot of them.Oh, and it is no match now to my Galaxy S2 Skyrocket or even HP Touchpad Cm9 that i got rid of last week.
I don't want to exchange it as it does not suffer from all the other problems being reported here (and am afraid that the new one might exhibit those). Please help.
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Just wanted you to know you aren't alone here...I have been seeing the same exact behavior on mine. I have started to uninstall apps one by one. I must be a bad app or something. If not I'm gonna wipe it and start over. It does feel disconcerting to go from easily the best tablet experience I have ever had to it becoming so sluggish.
i have the same problem, mine did the same thing on stock, ran great for a week or two, then became unbearably slow. so i rooted it and it wiped all data and the problem seemed to be fixed. then another week or two passed and its back to slow. i found out after testing with quadrant it has something to do with the i/o on the device, because the i/o score was abnormally lower than all the devices. putting a custom kernel will help, but still the i/o score is still quite low. i dont want to wipe all data again and if anybody knows a fix it would be greatly appreciated
nexus 7 has Kingston eMMC, it is better then the crummy Prime Hynix eMMC, but is eMMC none the less, not proper NAND flash/SSD
Well you could've had a bad app that is bogging your system down. A factory reset may be the only option so you can start fresh
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Check the cache size of your Google Playbook or Magazine apps. It keeps downloading large files (400 mb) and may fill up your storage...causing it to slow down?
Having the same issue after owning it for two days. I really wanted to like this tablet,but between the sluggishness, and other various shortcomings, I'm going to be returning mine.
I deleted WSJ app and it seems to have helped a lot - not as fast as new, but a lot better. One thing which still irritates me is email app which just seems to be too slow...
Sorry to say but mine so fast I can't keep it down it trys to fly away lol
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Same
has anyone been able to figure this out? I'm having the same problems and I've been running watchdog but there been no out of control process is on my device. I have wiped the device and the same thing just keeps happening after a little while it'll get very slow. it happens more often than not when there something in the background downloading are using the internet, but it's definitely not my connection because I've had no problems with any other devices.
Been getting similar behavior recently. cm10 euroskank, trinity 7.
Edit: in logcat, getting stuff like
I/Choreographer(10656): Skipped 30 frames! The application may be doing too much work on its main thread.
W/InputEventReceiver(10656): Attempted to finish an input event but the input event receiver has already been disposed.
I think I may have come across a solution. For me, the slowdowns were always connected to when something was downloading in the background, or when a process was using data, so I went through and turned off syncing on any non-essential Google services and other apps, and it seems to be working much better right now.
Is anyone else experiencing VERY poor performance after the update to Oreo? Im talking like apps taking 10+ seconds to open, or just not responding at all. It feels as if the phone only has 512mb of ram, I have tried a format, cleared the cache after the update, all the same issue.
My phone is working smoothly...
Try installing latest update...
http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/Ze...4141.92927745.1529467536-347108712.1528916551
How is the battery performance? Could you share me screenshot?
Em Kay said:
How is the battery performance? Could you share me screenshot?
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Battery is fine, 2-3 days life.
Naman Vashishth said:
My phone is working smoothly...
Try installing latest update...
http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/Ze...4141.92927745.1529467536-347108712.1528916551
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I tried that, it was a lower version than what I was on.
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I tried that, it was a lower version than what I was on.
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What update do you have installed?
Thanks.
Let me know the SoT you're getting?
Is there any black theme present in the new update?
Hello! I'm also.having terrible performance after the Android 8 update. Sometimes it takes over 5 seconds to show the home screen after pressing home, and it also "soft crashes" to the lock screen at random times intervals, no matter if I'm using an app or not. I've tried doing a factory reset twice and wiping the cache from the recovery menu but that hasn't helped. Any advice on this?
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Hello! I'm also.having terrible performance after the Android 8 update. Sometimes it takes over 5 seconds to show the home screen after pressing home, and it also "soft crashes" to the lock screen at random times intervals, no matter if I'm using an app or not. I've tried doing a factory reset twice and wiping the cache from the recovery menu but that hasn't helped. Any advice on this?
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Are you using the stock ASUS launcher? Perhaps try another one from the Play Store for a few hours and see if you get the same result.
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Are you using the stock ASUS launcher? Perhaps try another one from the Play Store for a few hours and see if you get the same result.
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I have. Tried a few launchers already, hola launcher, Microsoft launcher and Evie launcher, so far, the Microsoft launcher has the better performance, but still does the "soft crash" I mentioned and takes forever to load the home screen sometimes ?(right now I'm still using the Microsoft launcher)
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I have. Tried a few launchers already, hola launcher, Microsoft launcher and Evie launcher, so far, the Microsoft launcher has the better performance, but still does the "soft crash" I mentioned and takes forever to load the home screen sometimes (right now I'm still using the Microsoft launcher)
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Hmmmm.... how is your battery life?
In your settings, what does it say is using your battery the most?
koimr said:
Hmmmm.... how is your battery life?
In your settings, what does it say is using your battery the most?
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Battery life is usually as good as new (I got this phone the past October). I can easily go through a full day with very heavy use (playing games on the phone that use a lot the GPU ) and two days when I don't play that much
Since around 8AM today, the top 3 apps that has consumed battery are:
Messenger 8%
Google play services 3%
Simple rockets 1%
Screen has used 5% and my phone has 74% as I'm writing this.
Diggie08 said:
Battery life is usually as good as new (I got this phone the past October). I can easily go through a full day with very heavy use (playing games on the phone that use a lot the GPU ) and two days when I don't play that much
Since around 8AM today, the top 3 apps that has consumed battery are:
Messenger 8%
Google play services 3%
Simple rockets 1%
Screen has used 5% and my phone has 74% as I'm writing this.
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Hmmm. Ok, look in Settings at the "Storage & Memory" section, poke around and you'll see how much memory some apps have used. Anything look out of the ordinary there?
If you have Dev Options enabled there's an option in there to view running and cached apps as well, might be worth a look.
Unfortunately I'm just guessing as I don't have this problem myself, everything seems to be working now as it did with Nougat for me. I don't consider myself a heavy user though so it's not a good comparison.
koimr said:
Hmmm. Ok, look in Settings at the "Storage & Memory" section, poke around and you'll see how much memory some apps have used. Anything look out of the ordinary there?
If you have Dev Options enabled there's an option in there to view running and cached apps as well, might be worth a look.
Unfortunately I'm just guessing as I don't have this problem myself, everything seems to be working now as it did with Nougat for me. I don't consider myself a heavy user though so it's not a good comparison.
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Well, then only odd thing that I see is that in the storage and memory, Android OS has almost 1GB of ram being used, while the next process is using only about 200MB which is another system process (Android system) after those two is Google play services.
I have contacted asus support as well, and they only advices me to do a factory reset and if that didn't help, send the device to them "to get it checked" but I'm not willing to lose my phone for over a month!!
I also have had the same battery and performance problems. I did a reset and now all seems good, back to battery lasting 2 days with ease. I have gone into the settings for the auto start manager and that seems to have helped with some issues i had with my home screen taking a few seconds to load. I know this solution wont work for everyone i was hesitant to do the full reset but now wish i had done it after the last update as it has made all the difference
So I have found that having a SD card completly destroys the phone, when I took out my 128gb card the phone performs better, not to the level it should, but I can at least use it now. Is there any way to downgrade it back to android 7? Cause I'm at the point where I'm about to buy a new phone.
Darcw0lf said:
So I have found that having a SD card completly destroys the phone, when I took out my 128gb card the phone performs better, not to the level it should, but I can at least use it now. Is there any way to downgrade it back to android 7? Cause I'm at the point where I'm about to buy a new phone.
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I was wondering if the SD card had something to do... I contacted asus support and they told me that they do not provide the ROM to downgrade, the only way they could help is for you to send them your phone so they can "check it". Which, as I said before, I'm not willing to do it.
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I was wondering if the SD card had something to do... I contacted asus support and they told me that they do not provide the ROM to downgrade, the only way they could help is for you to send them your phone so they can "check it". Which, as I said before, I'm not willing to do it.
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I went through a RMA with asus for my phone once already, took them a month, no advanced RMA process, they sent it back, it broke again in 2 days, then i was without a phone for another month. Their process is pure **** and sending it in won't fix anything, this is nothing but a software issue.
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I went through a RMA with asus for my phone once already, took them a month, no advanced RMA process, they sent it back, it broke again in 2 days, then i was without a phone for another month. Their process is pure **** and sending it in won't fix anything, this is nothing but a software issue.
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Hey, I found this on zentalk, I haven't tried since I still have warranty (even though, I wanna try the unnoficial lineage is 14.1 for the zoom)
https://www.asus.com/zentalk/thread-213377-1-1.html
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Hey, I found this on zentalk, I haven't tried since I still have warranty (even though, I wanna try the unnoficial lineage is 14.1 for the zoom)
https://www.asus.com/zentalk/thread-213377-1-1.html
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Thanks for the find! I'm gonna try this right away, cause my phone is essentially unusable at this point.
Hey guys,
Since this is the last major update for our phones, I thought it will be a good idea to have a review discussion as to how Google left 2xl lines with Android 11 (I hope there is one update somewhere in future to iron out any bugs)
So! How is your phone's
1) Performance
2) Battery life
3) Sound (speaker/Bluetooth)
4) Ram management
5) Misc/Any bugs?
Let's have a discussion!
Heres my review:
Wait, its not worth it, yet
Thanks for your time
I was on it for about an hour before i noticed so many apps etc wouldnt work, and really it shouldnt have been so much of a difference that would result in so much breakage...
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Heres my review:
Wait, its not worth it, yet
Thanks for your time
I was on it for about an hour before i noticed so many apps etc wouldnt work, and really it shouldnt have been so much of a difference that would result in so much breakage...
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I'm curious.. What's broke? I've been on 11 since the first beta sign-up started and didn't experience any major problems with my day to day usage. It's about the same on battery and performance as it was on 10.
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73sydney said:
Heres my review:
Wait, its not worth it, yet
Thanks for your time
I was on it for about an hour before i noticed so many apps etc wouldnt work, and really it shouldnt have been so much of a difference that would result in so much breakage...
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Wow that's strange. Really curious as to what is broke for you? Are those Google apps or others?
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I'm curious.. What's broke? I've been on 11 since the first beta sign-up started and didn't experience any major problems with my day to day usage. It's about the same on battery and performance as it was on 10.
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Nice! I feel the smoothness has increased a bit as i found Android 11 was more smooth than 10 right from the beta phase. Although, I'm kind of disappointed in the whole. Chat bubbles doesn't seem to work and conversation is left to developers to adapt.
100rabh7791 said:
Nice! I feel the smoothness has increased a bit as i found Android 11 was more smooth than 10 right from the beta phase. Although, I'm kind of disappointed in the whole. Chat bubbles doesn't seem to work and conversation is left to developers to adapt.
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Chat bubbles work for the Google messages app for me. I even set it so all my contacts bubble Instead of having to set each one to bubble
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Chat bubbles work for the Google messages app for me. I even set it so all my contacts bubble Instead of having to set each one to bubble
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Unfortunately my usage of messages is very limited. I use WhatsApp mainly for communication and it is not yet working. Although, high priority conversation shows pictures in notification which is a good addition i feel.
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I'm curious.. What's broke? I've been on 11 since the first beta sign-up started and didn't experience any major problems with my day to day usage. It's about the same on battery and performance as it was on 10.
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Wow that's strange. Really curious as to what is broke for you? Are those Google apps or others?
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For one Migrate, the backup app i use and have for eons, wont restore apps/app data properly, so i would literally have to reinstall everything from scratch. Anyone want to do that for 113 apps? Considering there really isnt that much of a leap under the hood, why are apps, and even simple apps like Migrate...which uses simple scripts to restore, failing.....
There were at least 4 core apps i use that wouldnt work out of the gates. It took clearing the data for them sometimes twice to get them to work. It just turned into a lot of work. Rolled back to 10 and Migrate seamlessly worked as did every app i use.
When you can downgrade and have everything working, whats your takeaway? The upgraded OS isnt up to it yet.
Ill wait for a point release...
Also the repeated prompts to complete setup 3 times, when id already done it, got on my nerves..again, never happened on 10
It did not feel complate, felt rushed, despite however many betas they ran
Sticking with 10, and folks im usually a bleeding edger...i dont give a rats about battery and perfomance if my apps dont work...
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For one Migrate, the backup app i use and have for eons, wont restore apps/app data properly, so i would literally have to reinstall everything from scratch. Anyone want to do that for 113 apps? Considering there really isnt that much of a leap under the hood, why are apps, and even simple apps like Migrate...which uses simple scripts to restore, failing.....
There were at least 4 core apps i use that wouldnt work out of the gates. It took clearing the data for them sometimes twice to get them to work. It just turned into a lot of work. Rolled back to 10 and Migrate seamlessly worked as did every app i use.
When you can downgrade and have everything working, whats your takeaway? The upgraded OS isnt up to it yet.
Ill wait for a point release...
Also the repeated prompts to complete setup 3 times, when id already done it, got on my nerves..again, never happened on 10
It did not feel complate, felt rushed, despite however many betas they ran
Sticking with 10, and folks im usually a bleeding edger...i dont give a rats about battery and perfomance if my apps dont work...
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Far different experience than I am having.. I even did a fresh install, and Google restored all 180 of my apps and put all my screens back how I had them. No aftermarket backup app needed. All I had to do was make sure my account synced before I wiped.
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Far different experience than I am having.. I even did a fresh install, and Google restored all 180 of my apps and put all my screens back how I had them. No aftermarket backup app needed. All I had to do was make sure my account synced before I wiped.
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1) I always clean flash, full wipe. I never dirty flash.....
2) Never used Google for backup, and never will, for starters it doesnt back up data from all apps, only apps that specifically have google backup capability built in - people do not realise that devs have cook that in. Telling people to just use google backup just garauntees theyre going to cry when they realise most of their apps do not backup app data.
So again, my issues with 11 stand
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For one Migrate, the backup app i use and have for eons, wont restore apps/app data properly, so i would literally have to reinstall everything from scratch. Anyone want to do that for 113 apps? Considering there really isnt that much of a leap under the hood, why are apps, and even simple apps like Migrate...which uses simple scripts to restore, failing.....
There were at least 4 core apps i use that wouldnt work out of the gates. It took clearing the data for them sometimes twice to get them to work. It just turned into a lot of work. Rolled back to 10 and Migrate seamlessly worked as did every app i use.
When you can downgrade and have everything working, whats your takeaway? The upgraded OS isnt up to it yet.
Ill wait for a point release...
Also the repeated prompts to complete setup 3 times, when id already done it, got on my nerves..again, never happened on 10
It did not feel complate, felt rushed, despite however many betas they ran
Sticking with 10, and folks im usually a bleeding edger...i dont give a rats about battery and perfomance if my apps dont work...
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Oh well, I understand your frustration. True, Android 11 is a half baked update. I don't think apart from 2-3 features there is anything. I can consider this a feature drop than a full os upgrade.
Agreed about the Google backup it screwed my backup as well and although I didn't roll back to 10, it was quite frustrating.
Maybe you can update after the last bug update which probably will happen in December.
I'm just hoping that Google don't just stop with the security patches yet
My device never felt so complete and smooth.
Stock rooted 10 -> boot twrp.img -> dirty flash 11 ota.zip -> wipe -> first boot.
Boot twrp.img -> flash debug magic.zip, reboot.
Browse and install canary magic apk.
Only thing I think to notice is the sound seems somewhat distorted/overloaded somewhat, sometimes.
Never in calls.
Battery life and responsiveness improved. It feels less rough on the edges.
Mother_Teresa said:
My device never felt so complete and smooth.
Stock rooted 10 -> boot twrp.img -> dirty flash 11 ota.zip -> wipe -> first boot.
Boot twrp.img -> flash debug magic.zip, reboot.
Browse and install canary magic apk.
Only thing I think to notice is the sound seems somewhat distorted/overloaded somewhat, sometimes.
Never in calls.
Battery life and responsiveness improved. It feels less rough on the edges.
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I actually felt the sound quality improved. Yes it's more responsive. I'm still testing out the battery life can't say for sure if it improved much.
I'm liking that the keyboard is so smooth now, pops up smoothly
Came from a stock rooted 10 with only TWRP and Magisk installed, was starting to notice some hiccups and slow downs in usage. Decided to clean install which I hadn't done in a while to hopefully regain some performance as well as storage. Phone feels smooth again, haven't noticed any loss of performance or stability. Can confirm that audio seems a bit tuned up, having to set all the volume sliders a bit lower.
My real comments on the process is also more with the Google backup/restore. Since I had dirty flashed basically everything throughout A10 I didn't know what to expect. While it reinstalled all the apps, resetup all the home screens with apps/widgets, wifi passwords, and saved my wallpaper. It didn't save my custom notification/ringtone sounds, bluetooth devices, notification settings (specifically which apps were silenced), and most frustratingly my tasker profiles (my fault for not remembering to back them up). Fortunately, A11 has a new rules section in the settings that can change ringer state based off wifi which is what 3/4 of my profiles did. I have only tested the feature at home so far but it worked great. Had the phone on vibrate, setup a profile that when connecting to home wifi to turn the ringer on... had it connect to wifi and it immediately turned off vibrate and turned it back on when I disconnected wifi. Should do the same thing for work, just wish it had a bluetooth state so I could make a rule for the car.
All in all I'm glad I upgraded early, even though I didn't realize ahead of time the issues with canary magisk and TWRP installed. First attempt worked great, cleaned flashed and immediately installed TWRP, setup the phone/apps, then rebooted to install magisk. This was the bootloop but as soon as I read here the two weren't compatible I was able to reflash the update to remove bootloop. Booted to TWRP to install canary magisk and Elemental Kernel and it's working perfectly so far.
Storage issue
After Android 11 update can't access android/data folder. 3rd party file managers shows access denied. Few games can't be run due to restricted storage access. Does anyone know what's wrong. Can I root Android 11 and downgrade to Android 10. If yes any guidance available online. My Pixel 2 XL is not rooted yet.
gamebond007 said:
After Android 11 update can't access android/data folder. 3rd party file managers shows access denied. Few games can't be run due to restricted storage access. Does anyone know what's wrong. Can I root Android 11 and downgrade to Android 10. If yes any guidance available online. My Pixel 2 XL is not rooted yet.
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Your data folder was encrypted when using the previous version.
How did you upgrade?
If the bootloader is unlocked you could try booting a twrp.img to see if you can access /data.
Disable any pin you may be using before trying and if twrp asks for a password you could try default_password
Made any backups?
If the encryption key is lost you should just reformat the partitions to make the storage available again.
Maybe you can still recover the key to unlock the data if you didn't wipe it.
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Your data folder was encrypted when using the previous version.
How did you upgrade?
If the bootloader is unlocked you could try booting a twrp.img to see if you can access /data.
Disable any pin you may be using before trying and if twrp asks for a password you could try default_password
Made any backups?
If the encryption key is lost you should just reformat the partitions to make the storage available again.
Maybe you can still recover the key to unlock the data if you didn't wipe it.
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Bootloader is not unlocked yet.
I updated ota. Last night got it in notification, 1.4gb update.
I did backup all data.
In Android 10 I was able to access data folder. Now data & obb folders shows empty.
Can I still unlock bootloader?
Initially I dirtyflashed what caused a show phone.
Afterwards I did a clean install and it was done, but I went back to Bliss what ist the best right now