Is there anyone here who would be interested in a bumper made by SGP? I know I would! I think if we can get our voices heard on their FB page and they feel there is enough demand we can get them to make one!
go to their Facebook page and leave a comment! I would really like to make this happen as the LG and poetic bumpers are just not enough....
Yea I left a post for a bumper
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I sent them an email and a tweet enquiring about an anti-glare screen protector for the Nexus 4. Not even an acknowledgement let alone a reply. Don't really appreciate their customer service even though they have quality products.
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I'd be interested if they would make one that would be similar to the Ringke Hybrid Fusion (ie clear back in addition to the edge-protecting bumper), but I really can't see any other style worthwhile. It is amazing there aren't more similar models; clearly the back of the Nexus needs some sort of protection against minor impact and there are many who don't want to add bulk or change the aesthetic.
That said, I wrote to SCP to ask them to bring the Glas.TR high end glass screen protector to the Nexus 4. They replied, but basically shot down the idea. I'm so bloody sick of how many of the high-end accessories are only available for the iPhone! I'd like to see Glas.TR brought over to compare it to the XGear and Clarivue glass protectors (with a high-end film protector included for the back) more than a bumper, but it doesn't seem this company is very receptive to our requests so far. Still, worth it to keep trying!
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I'd be interested if they would make one that would be similar to the Ringke Hybrid Fusion (ie clear back in addition to the edge-protecting bumper), but I really can't see any other style worthwhile. It is amazing there aren't more similar models; clearly the back of the Nexus needs some sort of protection against minor impact and there are many who don't want to add bulk or change the aesthetic.
That said, I wrote to SCP to ask them to bring the Glas.TR high end glass screen protector to the Nexus 4. They replied, but basically shot down the idea. I'm so bloody sick of how many of the high-end accessories are only available for the iPhone! I'd like to see Glas.TR brought over to compare it to the XGear and Clarivue glass protectors (with a high-end film protector included for the back) more than a bumper, but it doesn't seem this company is very receptive to our requests so far. Still, worth it to keep trying!
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I think they will acknowledge the request as long as we can prove that there's a demand for it. That's why we should write on the fb page so we can get heard. If they only get one person asking for it they're not going to produce it as it's not worth their time to make something just for one person (or at least in their mind it's only for one person). I'm sick of all the iPhone support as well. Even the GSII and GSIII got way more accessories by SGP. All we have so far is one measly case by them.
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I think they will acknowledge the request as long as we can prove that there's a demand for it. That's why we should write on the fb page so we can get heard. If they only get one person asking for it they're not going to produce it as it's not worth their time to make something just for one person (or at least in their mind it's only for one person). I'm sick of all the iPhone support as well. Even the GSII and GSIII got way more accessories by SGP. All we have so far is one measly case by them.
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To be fair, both the iPhone and Galaxy series ARE considerably more popular, actually available across all carriers, and can actually be seen being used by people. There's already a feeling of huge pent up demand for the Galaxy S4. Seeing a Nexus phone in real life is still rare as a blue moon. Case makers have to skate where the puck goes...but yes I'd love to see some of the more unique and exotic type cases SGP makes for the iPhone brought over to the Nexus 4, not this generic bland stuff that can be found with any Chinese seller on Ebay.
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To be fair, both the iPhone and Galaxy series ARE considerably more popular, actually available across all carriers, and can actually be seen being used by people. There's already a feeling of huge pent up demand for the Galaxy S4. Seeing a Nexus phone in real life is still rare as a blue moon. Case makers have to skate where the puck goes...but yes I'd love to see some of the more unique and exotic type cases SGP makes for the iPhone brought over to the Nexus 4, not this generic bland stuff that can be found with any Chinese seller on Ebay.
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Yes I understand that's the reason why they get more support. I knew that. SGP is just going where the money is just like any other case maker would but they will make a case for a phone if they know there's a demand for it. We just have to prove it.
it's kinda late to be asking companies to make cases for the phone we going to get a new nexus in 5-6 months. i think if companies waited this long then they are not going to start making them now. Has any of these petitions worked for the nexus 4? i see so many of these threads but none with any real results.
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it's kinda late to be asking companies to make cases for the phone we going to get a new nexus in 5-6 months. i think if companies waited this long then they are not going to start making them now. Has any of these petitions worked for the nexus 4? i see so many of these threads but none with any real results.
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the next Nexus won't be till Nov/Dec. That's more than 5 to 6 months away. Whether it works or not it's better to try than not try.
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the next Nexus won't be till Nov/Dec. That's more than 5 to 6 months away. Whether it works or not it's better to try than not try.
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i must of been thinking about how long since the phone has been out but i dont agree that it's better to try. If companies like sgp and otterbox dont make cases for the nexus then ill buy it somewhere else, it's their lost not mine. I had the sgp hydrid for my galaxy nexus and imo it is not better than my poetic(didnt have any of the peeling issues people reported) and have a LG bumper on the way. these petitions never work anyways so you are just wasting time. Petition with your wallet instead of facebook. I've stop buying any otterbox cases since they tend to focus mostly on the iphone(their iphone case is always nicer than any android version) and now i wont buy from sgp again either.
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SWEET!
So, needless to say... EVERYONE and their mothers have been on an internet-based HUNT for an appropriately designed casing to fit our USA model of the eversopopular (YES, indeed... one word) HTC HD2.
Personally, it's all about YOUR preferences. Having said that, the only thing left to wonder is:
WHICH MANUFACTURER CAN WE TRUST?
- BodyGlove
- PDair
- Case-Mate
- OtterBox
Now, considering the mid-sized company has been OFFICIALLY endorsed and carried by AT&T locations for the iPhone... it's safe to say that they've proven themselves far superior to the competition. I've owned the Defender Series Case for the BlackBerry 9700, and it's without a doubt the most incredibly designed casing I've ever had on a piece of handheld technology.
BECOME A FAN OF "OTTERBOX" VIA FACEBOOK!
FOLLOW THEM ON TWITTER! - @OtterBox
If you're unfamiliar with their products, do a bit of research, because you will not be disappointed. TRUST ME, they will deliver in the near future. Just be patient folks, they're already hard at work to provide the Impact Series Case for us. Therefore, it's only a matter of time before we're updated on dates for the official release and availability.
All-in-all, do yourself a favor please...
WAIT FOR THE DEFENDER SERIES CASE!
Oh, don't hesitate to voice your opinions below.
Too bad you don't answer questions on Twitter... I have a few followers who try to ask you questions or get help from you and they definitely feel ignored. I know this ain't the place... but figured I'd let ya know. Thanks for the update... can't wait for Otterbox to drop their cases.
lol, could you imagine the size of an otterbox case on this thing? HUGE!!!! might have to hire a chaffeur! ;]
Let's continue to raise awareness though folks. I appreciate the views and the time taken to at least acknowledge this post.
Then again... I'm sure that OtterBox does too.
Just the thought of so much protection makes me feel as if condoms aren't even necessary in real-life anymore.
...kidding, stay clean fellas. Always stay strapped up.
Not that I doubt you did find this on twitter; I am curious if there is any other confirmation?
All I can find on the Otterbox website is this:
http://www.otterbox.com/search/hd2/htc-hd2-commuter-series-case-europe/
Which we all know that this Europe case won't work on the US model due to the location of the bottom plugs, but I'm sure someone in the US will try....
Here is to hoping that this Colorado based company will get with the program and provide a US version.
Actually I'm hoping we'll get a Commuter Series version for the Tmo HD2...that's the one they have for the other HD2, and looks like the best type of case they make. I submitted a request via the website a week or two ago, still haven't received any info other than they weren't making one at that time and would let me know if that changed.
Still, I think otterbox cases are definitely the best-engineered cases around, as long as they have one for your device
Thanks for the tip reignzone, here's hoping it happens!
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Too bad you don't answer questions on Twitter... I have a few followers who try to ask you questions or get help from you and they definitely feel ignored. I know this ain't the place... but figured I'd let ya know. Thanks for the update... can't wait for Otterbox to drop their cases.
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I don't understand... Do you think that Reignzone is Otterbox?
Or are you saying that Reignzone doesn't answer messages sent to him on twitter?
Received my Otterbox Defender today.
After the initial confusion of how to open the damn thing.... it is just AMAZING. Great coverage, feels comfortable in hand, and with the holster/belt clip fits on my waist comfortably.
And now the caveat:
The phone is already big. With the O-Box it's bigger, but not much bigger. If you have giant "I slap grizzly bears for fun" hands like I do, then it will feel more natural than the tiny phones like those made by companies with fruit rollup names.
There is a screen protector as a part of the case. That protector doesn't seem to impede the screen's sensitivity in the least, still a win win item. I'll probably cover that one just to keep it pristine.
I'll post some pics when I dig out the other camera.
Commuter case here as I need the puppy to fit into slacks and jacket pockets.
Love it.
ETA: Why isn't this post in "Accessories?"
Camusa said:
Commuter case here as I need the puppy to fit into slacks and jacket pockets.
Love it.
ETA: Why isn't this post in "Accessories?"
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Have you seen the accessories thread?
Not since I ordered this thing based on everything I read there...why?
They've got like 5 thread on the same thing floating around.
Aha!
Well...now there are six!
Confirmed: The Nexus S Does Not Have Gorilla Glass.
Samsungservice @colinsmall Hi Colin! I have confirmed that the Nexus D does not have Gorilla Glass. ^Sabrina
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Confirmed: The Nexus S Does Not Have Gorilla Glass.
Samsungservice @colinsmall Hi Colin! I have confirmed that the Nexus D does not have Gorilla Glass. ^Sabrina
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Nexus D???
bummmmmmmmmmer
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Nexus D???
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heh, I guess she hit the D key instead of the S key when she typed it.
Well, it might have monkey glass Less strong ... but allright.
I wonder how tough it is. Many people thought it had Gorilla Glass and that was part of their reasoning behind not using a screen protector etc...
Now not knowing how tough it is I wonder if people will reconsider going "naked"
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I wonder how tough it is. Many people thought it had Gorilla Glass and that was part of their reasoning behind not using a screen protector etc...
Now not knowing how tough it is I wonder if people will reconsider going "naked"
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Yes, I assumed the same thing, but I've gone "naked" with all my smartphones for a couple of years and never scratched any of them except my very first iPhone original model.
I wonder why they skipped the Gorilla Glass...all the other Galaxy S models have it. Maybe GG doesn't do the curve well?
I went naked with my EVO and never had a scratch. Just don't put it in your pocket with sand or car keys. Glass is very difficult to scratch.
Looks like Google is starting to cut corners.
They seem to have left out a bunch of things that were already present in the Galaxy S phones. Maybe to rush to market? Holiday sales?
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They seem to have left out a bunch of things that were already present in the Galaxy S phones. Maybe to rush to market? Holiday sales?
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I thought Gorilla Glass was a given on all new phones since at least iphone 4 came out with it. My Streak, captivate, galaxy tab, they all came with it. It looks to me like a step backwards on the Nexus S. Man, I really want to like this phone but...
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They seem to have left out a bunch of things that were already present in the Galaxy S phones. Maybe to rush to market? Holiday sales?
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Cost cutting.
Have you seen the prices of Galaxy S phones unlocked?
I opened mine brand new in the box.... and it has a few small fine scratches on it
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Cost cutting.
Have you seen the prices of Galaxy S phones unlocked?
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I haven't looked but 570 after taxes can't be too much lower. I probably would have paid a little more for the SD card/Gorilla Glass/Notification light etc...
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I really want to like this phone but...
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I feel this is the general consensus, and while I don't doubt there are many happy adopters of the NS, I can't help but feel some people are making excuses to justify their purchase. For example, many say we don't "need" HSPA+. Let's be consistent: there are many things on the phone we don't need. Yet when weighed against the fact that all carriers are pushing for "4G" going into 2011, disappointment over the lack of it is perfectly justified.
I want to like the Nexus S, as well.
youtube scratch test please
Highly recommend realook to anyone thinking of getting a SP
not sure if NS version is out yet
But I have one on my vibrant and cant even tell i have a SP on
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I feel this is the general consensus, and while I don't doubt there are many happy adopters of the NS, I can't help but feel some people are making excuses to justify their purchase. For example, many say we don't "need" HSPA+. Let's be consistent: there are many things on the phone we don't need. Yet when weighed against the fact that all carriers are pushing for "4G" going into 2011, disappointment over the lack of it is perfectly justified.
I want to like the Nexus S, as well.
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I completely agree. Just because Google tells us that this is the best they could do this time, we have to bow down and take it; or find excuses to justify our purchase. That's why I got rid of my iphone; I was tired of making excuses about its limitations. I can forsee lots of buyer's remorse very soon.
Well it's been reported that the MT4G doesn't have gorilla glass either... screen seems just as strong as my Vibrant's, but again, that's just my opinion... haven't actually tested it heh.
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I completely agree. Just because Google tells us that this is the best they could do this time, we have to bow down and take it; or find excuses to justify our purchase. That's why I got rid of my iphone; I was tired of making excuses about its limitations. I can forsee lots of buyer's remorse very soon.
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I have remorse right now.... and I dont even have the phone yet. Still deciding whether to ebay it for a small profit or just wait for patches or fixes to the current problems we are seeing
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I agree.
Google hasn't given any good reasons for people to go for a N:S instead of other phones (for example Galaxy S, which IMO still is better).
I've seen a ton of Android users bashing "iSheep" over the years for their undying loyalty and "sheepism" (if there is such a word) for the way that they foam at the mouth for every new Apple product that gets released. It seems that no matter what the reviews or competing products show them, they run out and buy that new iProduct as soon as it hits the shelves.
I've started to wonder if us Nexus fans aren't exactly the same.. here we have a brand new Nexus 4 coming out, and let's be honest most of the reviews are not on the positive side. I've seen the numerous justifications about how the test phones weren't running the most "optimized" software, how the reviewer(s) were Apple fan boys, how the final product won't be anything like the test phones..
However, when I started recounting my experiences with the Nexus brand, I have to say I think we are putting our blinders on due to the excitement of having a new Nexus with decent specs. Case point:
When I decided to buy the Galaxy Nexus I was extremely excited to finally get my hands on the "Pure Android Experience". Coming from the Galaxy SII, I had some high expectations of what I top notch smart phone should be - but I also had high hopes given the Gnex specs. When the day my Gnex arrived, I couldn't get the box open fast enough! Then low and behold - the phone was DOA. Wouldn't even power on, nothing. No long press, multiple press, extended charging, nada. Quickly called Google and was sent a replacement two days later.
When the replacement arrived, it powered up just fine (thank God..) and I began getting it all set up. Almost immediately I noticed it didn't seem as responsive as my Galaxy SII. The touch screen lacked the sensitivity of the SII, but I thought to myself, I can deal with that - hey, it's a Nexus! The colors seems a bit off to me, but I thought "it's probably just the auto-brightness". It was only after setting the phone up completely that I noticed the urine-colored whites and the muted colors. I thought to myself, "well, everyone says the Galaxy SII is over saturated anyway.." although I wasn't too convinced. It just didn't seem to have the "WOW" factor the SII had. Still, I carried on - after all.. it's a Nexus!
Three weeks later and I'm starting to get pissy about the Gnex. Reception just wasn't as good, seemed to run things slightly slower than my SII, DL speeds were slower than my SII, the touch screen responsiveness (or lack thereof) had simply become annoying. That coupled with the so-so screen quality and everything started to get to me. Dissatisfaction was growing at this point..
Finally I couldn't take it anymore. Sold my Gnex on XDA for $350 shipped and guess what? The very next day it drops to $350 in the Play Store. Felt really bad for the guy who bought mine, but since I keep my phones pristine I'm sure he was OK with it. Plus he saved tax + shipping.
So I immediately went out and bought the Galaxy SIII on release day. OH. MY. GOD. I had my phone back. It was like the SII only bigger. Better. Faster. Touch screen responsiveness and screen was simply amazing. Everything flew on this phone, no matter what I threw at it. Fell in love with Android all over again.
Three weeks ago I went and bought the Nexus 7. I thought, surely the reports of the QC issues are slightly exaggerated since XDA is such a small portion of the consumer population.. they're just a little more anal, a little more OCD about their devices (at least this is what I am reading by the members aggressively defending the Nexus 7). I'm sure it will be fine!
My first Nexus 7 has such bad light bleed I immediately returned it. Bad luck, I thought. I'm sure this isn't the norm. After all, I didn't have any screen lift.. right? My 2nd Nexus 7 - Ahh, perfection. No light bleed, no screen lift, everything looks great. Well, except for the slightly washed out colors and over saturated whites. But hey, it's LCD so what do I expect right? Besides... it's a Nexus!
Sure enough, here I am three weeks later, and the same light bleed in the lower left corner has manifested, along with a slight screen lift on the upper left hand side. I haven't removed the back to check for missing screws yet, but I am sure I will find it is the same as others have reported.. I won't be returning this one as I have decided to live with it even though it aggravates me every time I see it.
So here I am at the impasse.. I have the Galaxy SIII, which is what I consider the best phone on the market (besides perhaps the Note 2) running CM10 Jellybean 4.1.2 flawlessly.. and yet the Nexus name is calling to me again.
WHY IN THE WORLD should I expect things to be different this time? Why would I choose to ignore the reviews and believe other Nexus fan boys who say it's the "test phones" and software that is "not optimized", and that it's not the "final product"?
There's only ONE reason I can think of. Because I am a God damn Google fanatic that keeps ignoring reality in the hopes that everyone is wrong and this will be the best Android phone ever. But we all know that it won't... don't we?
I'm giving Google one last chance to impress the hell outta me. After this, if things turn out like they have in the past, I'm sorry to say it but... I will be a Samsung fan from now on. Yes, they did make the Gnex.. and it was inferior.. but honestly it's probably because they were putting everything into their Galaxy S line to steal the show, which IMO they have done quite successfully.
Don't let me down Google. Make me a Nexus believer again.
Anyone agree with me?
TL;DR, lol.
Nexus 4 will be made by Samsung. Should've called it the SGS4.
I disagree.
SGS2 owner.
locsplitter said:
Nexus 4 will be made by Samsung. Should've called it the SGS4.
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Uh... OK.
The Nexus 4 is made by LG. Not Samsung.
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Thats a lot of writing man, my eyes hurt
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TL;DR, lol.
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This.
Some things can't be properly conveyed in a short paragraph.
Not that I expected any actual responses in a Nexus forum.
I'm not saying that I'm not all in on the Nexus 4.. just saying I don't hold high hopes that it will be everything Google claims..
I read it and here's my take on the Nexus 4.
I may not be as technical as most people on XDA, but I try to read up as much as I can. I think what makes MOST (not all) Android users different from MOST (not all) iPhone users is that we actually take the time to research a product before be buy it. They buy their products because it says "Apple" on the box. We have countless different devices to choose from. We HAVE to do the research before we buy. This isn't just about buying a Nexus, this is about buying a new Android phone and having to choose between what's currently on the market.
For me, I'm over my current phone (T-Mobile G2x) and want to get a new one, but I'm still on contract. I don't make enough money to drop $600+ on a new phone. Hell, even if I did make enough money, I wouldn't be comfortable dropping that much money on a phone. Buying a phone from Google means I can buy a nice phone at an affordable price without forcing me to extend a contract that I never wanted to be on in the first place (I originally only switched from Virgin Mobile to T-Mobile because I wanted a better phone at a decent price and signing a contract used to be the only way to do that). My original plan was actually to buy the Galaxy Nexus to hold me over until my upgrade was available and then, from there, decide if I wanted to stick with Android or try out Windows Phone 8.
Then the Nexus 4 was announced and for the same exact price as the Galaxy Nexus. It's a better phone, at a better price.
Like I said, I may not be as technical as the rest of you, but what I see is a phone that is equivalent to each heavy hitter currently on the market (Galaxy SIII, One X, iPhone 5, the various upcoming offerings from Windows Phone 8). The only difference is that this phone is half the price of all of those. That's what I see when I look at the Nexus 4. I see an affordable upgrade for my current phone that is cheaper to every other comparable phone on the market and that's why I'm going to buy it (after consumer reviews of course, but it's almost certain that I will be ordering this phone before the month is over).
Now, the thing I do not understand is why people with the above mentioned phones would seriously consider this. Yes, it's a Nexus. Yes, it will get updates faster. But why should that all matter? All of us here on XDA are probably running rooted phones and we've all probably flashed multiple ROMs. My G2x is currently running Jellybean 4.1. It may not be 4.2, but I'm sure a clever dev will make it happen at some point. If not my phone, all of the above mentioned phones (minus the iPhone and Windows Phone 8 obviously) will get it at some point. Our vanilla Android experience isn't going to be vanilla for too long out of the box.
Maybe it's because I'm not made of money, but I wouldn't be able to justify dropping another $350 if I already had a $600+ phone. I don't buy into brands (part of the reason why I refuse to use Apple products). I'm happy to be a future owner of a Nexus phone, but I'm not buying it because it's Nexus (although that is nice). I'm buying it because it's cheap and, to my untrained eyes, more or less equal to the best phones on the market.
To each their own. To me, Nexus 4. All there is to it
I agree. I am buying the nexus 4 strictly for these reasons:
1) I need a new phone, currently using Samsung captivate on aokp jb milestone 1.
2) don't want to spend an arm and a leg for a new phone
3) want a phone that will be supported with software updates immediately
4) Want a phone that has great specs so that it can support future software updates down the road
I am not expecting this phone to be a savior. As the old saying goes, if it seems too good to be true it usually is. To buy the most powerful "best" phone and only pay 359$ for it brand new? That seems too good to be true IMO. I just need a huge upgrade from my captivate and the nexus is more than that.
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The Nexus 4 is made by LG. Not Samsung.
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Not according to this retailer. http://www.popularelect.com/LG-Nexus-4-Unlocked-Smartphone-p/Nexus4.htm?gclid=CKm_ksGpu7MCFcaDQgodClkAow
Source discussion http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1977196
I can see your point though I don't agree with some of your reasoning. At times there are levels of excitement that are disproportionate to reality, but I don't think this is representative of the majority of users.
As for the "negative reviews" take a look at the screenshots that show kernel and baseband versions - on at least three of the sites they are different versions. It is highly likely that software improvements will address these issues. The fact that many of the reviews did not make note that the software on their review device is a pre-release version is either disingenuous or ignorant. Making note of this as a consumer does not denote fanboyism.
All products will have build quality issues, this is just how things are. I returned my first Galaxy S2 because of problems with the screen and my first Nexus 7 as well. I know people who have had problems with iPhones and other Android devices which required RMA. Does that mean that an LG product will now have flaws because it has Google branding on it? Hardly. There probably will be issues and we'll hear all the whining and moaning, we wait and see.
tl;dr - it's just a phone, people need to chill the **** out. Only time will tell if it's a great phone or not.
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I can see your point though I don't agree with some of your reasoning. At times there are levels of excitement that are disproportionate to reality, but I don't think this is representative of the majority of users.
As for the "negative reviews" take a look at the screenshots that show kernel and baseband versions - on at least three of the sites they are different versions. It is highly likely that software improvements will address these issues. The fact that many of the reviews did not make note that the software on their review device is a pre-release version is either disingenuous or ignorant. Making note of this as a consumer does not denote fanboyism.
All products will have build quality issues, this is just how things are. I returned my first Galaxy S2 because of problems with the screen and my first Nexus 7 as well. I know people who have had problems with iPhones and other Android devices which required RMA. Does that mean that an LG product will now have flaws because it has Google branding on it? Hardly. There probably will be issues and we'll hear all the whining and moaning, we wait and see.
tl;dr - it's just a phone, people need to chill the **** out. Only time will tell if it's a great phone or not.
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Why, when other phones are reviewed, are they not on some sort of "pre-release" software?
I don't remember reading reviews of other high end Android phones and seeing people say they were "misleading" or that the "software wasn't optimized"
I mean c'mon, all of the sudden reviews are completely bogus and software isn't up to par?
I don't care of they were running GB, the phone either flies or it doesn't.
OP, I'm really glad you made this thread. I've never had a Nexus and I also am over my current device (myTouch 4G) and chomping at the bit to get a new one. I had no idea there were that many problems with either the gnex or the N7. This worries me. I have some thinking to do...
Also, have a thanks.
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Why, when other phones are reviewed, are they not on some sort of "pre-release" software?
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If the software is not released or finished, then they are by definition running 'pre-release' software.
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I don't remember reading reviews of other high end Android phones and seeing people say they were "misleading" or that the "software wasn't optimized"
I mean c'mon, all of the sudden reviews are completely bogus and software isn't up to par?
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I never said the reviews were completely bogus, in fact I mentioned how it was obvious that there was different software on at least three review devices and that It is highly likely that software improvements will address the issues. Note - I am acknowledging that there are issues
Again, it's just a phone. If you are concerned it wont meet your expectations wait until it's been out for a while to see what happens; some people will love it, others will call it a flop.
Other top phones (SIII, etc.) aren't reviewed with pre-release software because they use an established version of Android, aka SIII shipping with ICS, whereas the Nexus 4 is shipping with a brand new version of Android, 4.2, which has not been as widely tested and established, and which Google is probably still working on. If 4.2 were completely ready today, the Nexus 4 would probably be released today, rather than the 13th.
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To me it is a matter of price. I'm stuck with Xperia mini, and I want to upgrade. At the same time the Nexus 4 is released, and it is insanely cheap, at least from foreign countries like Germany (which use the same power plug as Sweden). The price is what makes this phone so very interesting, if it weren't for that there would have been a lot of other phones in question. In Sweden the Nexus 4 isn't something out of the ordinary, when you can buy a Galaxy S3 for about the same price. But if I import this phone from Germany, I save about 150 euros, that is why I'm very interested.
The fact that it is a Nexus is positive, but not the main factor. I've read some bad reviews, but for this price, it isn't a dealbreaker. The same criticism at swedish prices would be a dealbreaker however.
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I need a new phone, I have always preferred vanilla android, and I've had two nexus phones before my current non-nexus phone.
I am ready to be back on a nexus phone, between the quick updates, and being free from a contract, the nexus 4 is extremely enticing, AND at an amazing pricepoint.
I agree with the OP on many counts. Even though I myself have had no problems with my GNex and felt that it was THE most beautiful phone I have owned (maybe second to the LG Prada), the whites were jaundiced and sickly looking. And even though kernels like Trinity fixed it to a certain extent, Google needs to realize one thing - the phone needs to be working without problems out of the box. I think what is happening is an over dependency on devs and a complacency thinking that people will overlook glitches in nexus devices because, hey! after all this is android. The devs can fix everything, right?!
A trend I am seeing with the N4 is that no matter what the issue is, many people go, 'well its just 350, so its ok'! No its not! Its not like we asked Google to make an inexpensive device, so they were compelled and thus had to resort to faulty and low quality hardware to cut costs. The price was their decision. I as a consumer want my phone problem free - $350 or $650
That said, I hope as much as the next guy that the problems so far are indeed related to pre-release firmwares and kernels. But then, it was absolutely ridiculous and insane of Google to send those devices for review. Might as well have no reviews than have tons of negative ones. Sure, people here on XDA are 'techy' enough to know that the test firmware is not final and most of the issues might be wrinkled out by release date. But a common man sees the review and goes 'oh crap! i don't want a headache, lemme just get something that everyone says works i.e. iPhone'.
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First and foremost: No multiple user support! Until this is provided by either Samsung or by a mod, I'm not buying this tablet. I was hoping to make this a coffee table appliance, and there is no way to achieve that without the multi-user support.
Another thing that kinda annoyed me was the seemingly cheap workmanship on the area where the bezel meets the plastic frame in the front. I held a white one at Best Buy and this annoying look immediately caught my attention. This would have looked much nicer if the bezel did not run over the frame and was instead flush with it. Normally I wouldn't care about this too much, but I know my wife will and ***** about how iPad looks nicer... jeez.....
So why am I posting this? I guess I needed to vent... I had so much high hopes for this device, and now I'm having second thoughts...
Why no one cares: Because no one cares.
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Why no one cares: Because no one cares.
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Well, you cared enough to reply, so that's something!
I think the Note 2014 is going to be the best there is for android 10 inch tablet (until next year) for what it all offers. The super close runner up will be the New Nexus 10 coming out soon. For many it could go either way between the two. I jsut love all the software extras and the multi tasking of this thing. My god the multitasking!!:victory:
Again the new Nexus 10 is not out yet but ASUS is making it and I'm not too confident in the quality control. But that is just me.
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Well, you cared enough to reply, so that's something!
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I think the Note 2014 is going to be the best there is for android 10 inch tablet (until next year) for what it all offers. The super close runner up will be the New Nexus 10 coming out soon. For many it could go either way between the two. I jsut love all the software extras and the multi tasking of this thing. My god the multitasking!!:victory:
Again the new Nexus 10 is not out yet but ASUS is making it and I'm not too confident in the quality control. But that is just me.
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And besides, didn't Google announce that they won't provide external sd-card slots, because they were "too confusing" to the consumer??? Really??? Or is it because they want to charge an extra $100 for 16GB in this day and age? Thanks Google, that's a deal breaker. The moment HTC did that, I switched over to Samsung (also HTC stopped making the battery removable). I hate when Android device makers are trying to act like they are Apple. If I want to buy something like iPhone or iPad, I will buy an iPhone or iPad. So stop taking away things that give you an edge!
I'm afraid that's what Samsung could be trying to do here by removing the multi-user support. They want everyone to buy a tablet. They don't want family members to share. Well, for the phones, it's understandable. But for tablets, there is no reason not to share. I hope Sammy gets its act together on this...
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And besides, didn't Google announce that they won't provide external sd-card slots, because they were "too confusing" to the consumer??? Really??? Or is it because they want to charge an extra $100 for 16GB in this day and age? Thanks Google, that's a deal breaker. The moment HTC did that, I switched over to Samsung (also HTC stopped making the battery removable). I hate when Android device makers are trying to act like they are Apple. If I want to buy something like iPhone or iPad, I will buy an iPhone or iPad. So stop taking away things that give you an edge!
I'm afraid that's what Samsung could be trying to do here by removing the multi-user support. They want everyone to buy a tablet. They don't want family members to share. Well, for the phones, it's understandable. But for tablets, there is no reason not to share. I hope Sammy gets its act together on this...
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Google's mission was to make the tablet as affordable as possible, it is one of the reasons why they cut out the ext SD card.
Their other excuse was switching over on how they wanted their phones to mount when connected to PC. But Samsung managed to get it working right, so I don't know what their issue was.
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First and foremost: No multiple user support! Until this is provided by either Samsung or by a mod, I'm not buying this tablet. I was hoping to make this a coffee table appliance, and there is no way to achieve that without the multi-user support.
Another thing that kinda annoyed me was the seemingly cheap workmanship on the area where the bezel meets the plastic frame in the front. I held a white one at Best Buy and this annoying look immediately caught my attention. This would have looked much nicer if the bezel did not run over the frame and was instead flush with it. Normally I wouldn't care about this too much, but I know my wife will and ***** about how iPad looks nicer... jeez.....
So why am I posting this? I guess I needed to vent... I had so much high hopes for this device, and now I'm having second thoughts...
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As a coffee table device? I wouldn't dish out ~$600 for a tablet I'd be leaving on the coffee table. Why not just get something cheaper? It doesn't sound like you're going to be using the s pen for anything serious anyways and the S Pen is what really makes this device worth the purchase.
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As a coffee table device? I wouldn't dish out ~$600 for a tablet I'd be leaving on the coffee table. Why not just get something cheaper? It doesn't sound like you're going to be using the s pen for anything serious anyways and the S Pen is what really makes this device worth the purchase.
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Well, I guess I tend to always buy the top tier device and hang on to it for a while (still use my Lenovo T61 I bought in 2007 close to $2K). For now it will be a coffee table device, but for later I may turn it into something more useful. And no one can deny the stunning resolution on that screen.
I currently have Note 2 as my phone and I do use the S Pen quite often.
7just grab a nook hd+. 9inches and under $125.
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First and foremost: No multiple user support! Until this is provided by either Samsung or by a mod, I'm not buying this tablet. I was hoping to make this a coffee table appliance, and there is no way to achieve that without the multi-user support.
Another thing that kinda annoyed me was the seemingly cheap workmanship on the area where the bezel meets the plastic frame in the front. I held a white one at Best Buy and this annoying look immediately caught my attention. This would have looked much nicer if the bezel did not run over the frame and was instead flush with it. Normally I wouldn't care about this too much, but I know my wife will and ***** about how iPad looks nicer... jeez.....
So why am I posting this? I guess I needed to vent... I had so much high hopes for this device, and now I'm having second thoughts...
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You could try installing 2014 NOTE 10.1 RETAIL MODE APP.
I believe the way it works is.........
You activate the retail mode with a password and anything that is done in retail mode is erased when you return to normal operation. There is also a video that plays when the tablet has not been touched for a preset time.
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You could try installing 2014 NOTE 10.1 RETAIL MODE APP.
I believe the way it works is.........
You activate the retail mode with a password and anything that is done in retail mode is erased when you return to normal operation. There is also a video that plays when the tablet has not been touched for a preset time.
Only one catch......... you need the password, who knows it???
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Yes, I have seen that on the tablet at BestBuy. There was an "administrators" menu on settings and retail mode user or something close to that name was listed as an admin. But still doesn't achieve the purpose of being able to share the device with my wife without any hassle.
Anyone else see this? Hopefully (if true) this gets fixed before shipment here to the US...
http://www.slashgear.com/note-4-screen-gap-issue-is-worse-than-bendgate-29348268/
Samsung is already aware of the issue. These phones are usually produced a week or two before they get into the customer's hands so this should be a non-issue for the ones coming onto American shores. And it's a manufacturing flaw not a design flaw like "bendgate."
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Samsung is already aware of the issue. These phones are usually produced a week or two before they get into the customer's hands so this should be a non-issue for the ones coming onto American shores. And it's a manufacturing flaw not a design flaw like "bendgate."
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Thanks for your input, good to know - I feel a little better now. =)
Yeah, no big deal for real. As mentioned above, it is not a design flaw like the iBend.
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Might even be fake according to comments. But we all know what @ssholes some folks are that hang around the interwebs.
Most likely is not true... But in case it is true... You can use the gaps as storage compartments... Or as card holders as shown in pictures... Nice feature... Lol
My Note 3 had a large gap on one side of the screen. It was like the screen wasn't set properly. I exchanged my phone and the new one didn't have the issue. Not a big deal. Issue was resolved.
You cant return the 6 plus for a 6 plus that doesn't bend
complete nonsense to even compare couple phones sleeping past quality control to fundamental design fault. I accidentally sat down with my Note 3 being in my back jeans pocket more than once (simply forgot, since I usually carry it in side pocket), so bending ip6 may not be as remote possibility as some want to make it.
its for the new screen shield
I went best buy to play with the Note 4, I tried to stick a business card and there was no gap there.
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don't scare us like that! but honestly, sammy always takes care of it, and seeing as how the phone is already out in other parts of the world, we shouldn't see any issues over here in the US. its one of the only pluses to not getting a phone first :good:
According to Android Central it looks like it's acknowledged in the manual.
http://www.androidcentral.com/galaxy-note-4-screen-gap-necessary-manufacturing-feature-says-manual
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Oh and the fun continues...
"Galaxy Note 4 screen gap 'a necessary manufacturing feature,' says manual"
http://www.androidcentral.com/galaxy-note-4-screen-gap-necessary-manufacturing-feature-says-manual
No biggie, since I really want this phone - I'll just plan to buy it in person, and inspect it before buying (problem solved). But I did find the above article interesting, and wondered if Sammy added that to their manual after some of the N3's had similar issues...
Nonsense!
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I went best buy to play with the Note 4, I tried to stick a business card and there was no gap there.
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Same here, there really is no gap! And if anyone sees one, just get an exchange!
It's not even noticeable until some kiddie decided to stick a piece of paper in it.
I can stick a piece of paper in my note 2 as well, it's clearly not an issue
but, people will continue to make a big deal about it here..
Everything has a "GATE" at the end nowadays???????
.... like its some kind of scandal... based off Watergate... very ghey imo