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Is it advisable to purchase any particular app from the Samsung App Store or should one buy it from the Android Market?
In my opinion, one should prefer to buy any particular app from the android market rather than Samsung Appstore which is yet to grow with even basic professional relevance!!!
I am saying this after I have had this experience...
Last week I bought SPLASHTOP REMOTE DESKTOP from Samsung App store on my Galaxy Note for about 0.99 USD. There were few noticeable differences:
First thing I immediately noticed was that the version I downloaded (1.6.0.5) was OLDER than the corresponding one available (1.6.5.6) on Android Market.
Still I preferred to buy the app from Samsung App store as it was much cheaper (0.99 USD) as compared to the one available on android market (USD 4.99).
Just two days after this I noticed the CERAMIC WHITE model of NOTE and of course could not resist the temptation of owning it, so gifted my (erstwhile) dark blue NOTE to my bro (after factory resetting it!!!, which my bro is now using with all his relevant google/samsung account credentials!!)
And this is where I learnt that because I "changed" my device, I can not REDOWNLOAD my "purchased" app from SAMSUNG APP STORE despite regitering with same Samsung Apps account!!. This is so very weird, as I have been seamlessly transitioning my all apps to my all new devices just by ensuring that I have the same google/android account registered on my new device.
I tried to restore my app through Kies, but in vain, then I tried to get in touch with customer support at Sumsung App Store and which is when I noticed that that they have a very LOUSY and LAME UI, that just leads no where.
Needless to mention, I purchased the app again, but this time from the android market. Although I had to shell out USD 4.99 (instead of 0.99), I find its worth it as now I have a app, that is LATEST VERSION (yes, in this example of splashtop, it has significant change of opting for custom resolution of native device), and that I will be able to use on as long as I want, even after I move over to any new device (of course there is nothing better than Galaxy Note as of now!!).
So in conclusion, Samsung App store SUCKS while Android Market is far much ahead. Thus in my opinion, assuming all fundamentals remain uniform, its better to purchase an APP from ANDROID MARKET rather that Samsung App Store!!!
Go on getjar.com and download the getjar app. Follow this link getjar.com/mobile/76092/splashtop-r...1exu1ijoujnhdvyb&c=byosqnnawl4xis5cC9&lang=en and you'll have it for free.
Personally I uninstall getjar afterwards as it is running as service in the background.
As these paid apps are offered for free they are not updated by the android market.
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It is simple thing, Samsung application can be redownloaded to Samsung device only, (and it is even more strange when it not supports change of device.)
Android purchase will work with any Android device, if you change in future, as it is linked to your Gmail.
And thats Y i think, samsung store provides somwat cheaper thn Android Market. But in long term it cost more.
Very right dr.ketan, its indeed strange that it does not support device change too even if one changes to a different device of Samsung make!! And that's why I reiterate that although on one end they make superb devices as NOTE, on the other end soft serves like their app store, their kies... lack professional relevance
I wish Samsung guys are serious enough to listen to the forum members and take all this as feedback to improve their soft services with needful
"And this is where I learnt that because I "changed" my device, I can not REDOWNLOAD my "purchased" app from SAMSUNG APP STORE despite regitering with same Samsung Apps account!!"
For me, the solution to this is... If I buy something, I own it (which is why I don't buy apple). I can make a back up of CD's, DVD's etc.. that I have paid for. It is the same with apps. I don't care if I'm slated/criticised/abused, after I have bought an app I will find an apk on the net as a backup should I change my phone or flash it. or use 'app backup and restore'.
I have spent far too much time in the past with customer (don't)care trying to find out if they would let me redownload apps I have purchased when I change my phone..
If i purchase an App from Android Market.... And if i change my phone say after 2 years OR Hard Reset, will i still be able to download it to my new phone just by login into my google account? Also, for how long does the developer provide update once purchased an app...
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If i purchase an App from Android Market.... And if i change my phone say after 2 years OR Hard Reset, will i still be able to download it to my new phone just by login into my google account? Also, for how long does the developer provide update once purchased an app...
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As I have experienced, you may change or hard reset you device unlimited times and still you will continue to enjoy the benefits of being a licensed user of the app, and thus you will be able to download it unlimited times, as long as you continue to have android OS and the same GOOGLE account.
As far as developers support is concerned, I have no precise idea on this, although I feel the support depends on developers commitment to the product. May be I should add here that as I have seen in last 2 years (ever since I am using android) I have been getting updates to my older apps even now, if at all there is a newer version.
Even on the Android market you can have trouble if either google or the developer remove the paid app or release a different version then the old app you purchased is no longer there so if you change your device then you are stuffed and either have to purchase your asp again or you won't get it. For example see the dice player which had paid versions but google removed it and now only free advertisement supported version is available.see comments section for the asp where paid customers are cribbing that now they can't instal paid app on new phone.
Loads of other examples like train times UK app had free version two years ago without ads but later was removed and new paid version came up but when you get new phone then the old asp no longer existson the market.
for w/e reason it's not letting me find the app in Google Play. perhaps my ROM (AOPK)
does anyone know a way to get the apk? I just got my Nexus q
update:
I installed Jelly Bean and was able to download it
If the apk isn't locked to your device (with the encryption they announced at I/O) - can you post it? I'd love to have a peek inside!
Questions go in the Q&A section - not the Dev section
The google play description of the nexus q app claims that will work on anything with gingerbread and above, the app right now appears to only work and be listed for jelly bean devices
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I installed a JellyBean Rom on my Verizon Galaxy Nexus for it to work.
here is the apk from a Titanium Backup it probably wont work lol but you never know
http://db.tt/Gf1AZApt
Thanks for posting the apk. I was unable to get it from the Play store as it's unavailable in Canada at the moment (seems silly, but whatever). I installed the app from your link and it works great! I'm listening to music on my Q as I type this.
glad to hear it actually works. I had my friend try it out on his G2x with no luck so I wasn't sure
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Thanks for posting the apk. I was unable to get it from the Play store as it's unavailable in Canada at the moment (seems silly, but whatever). I installed the app from your link and it works great! I'm listening to music on my Q as I type this.
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What is yours android version?
Crud, I just bought a Q on E-Bay thinking I would get it quicker (it was also about $100 cheaper) than waiting for Google to ship me one but the APK won't install on my Bionic running the leaked ICS build. The Q application in the Play Store also says it's not compatible with either of my devices (the other being a Xoom running ICS) even though the description says it's compatible with Gingerbread and above. I assume that when the Q actually starts shipping they will fix this issue with the market application but my brilliant plan to get a Q sooner will be for naught!
I know its ridiculous but part of me is tempted to go buy a Nexus 7 or Galaxy Nexus off of Ebay so I'll have something to control this with when it gets here!
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Crud, I just bought a Q on E-Bay thinking I would get it quicker (it was also about $100 cheaper) than waiting for Google to ship me one but the APK won't install on my Bionic running the leaked ICS build. The Q application in the Play Store also says it's not compatible with either of my devices (the other being a Xoom running ICS) even though the description says it's compatible with Gingerbread and above. I assume that when the Q actually starts shipping they will fix this issue with the market application but my brilliant plan to get a Q sooner will be for naught!
I know its ridiculous but part of me is tempted to go buy a Nexus 7 or Galaxy Nexus off of Ebay so I'll have something to control this with when it gets here!
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I would just wait or else buy a Galaxy Nexus. My kids have Galaxy Nexus phones so I just rooted theirs and installed JB to work with my Nexus Q. The original shipments of the Nexus Q were supposed to ship 2-3 weeks from Google I/O so the app should be available anytime.
I think it is dumb for Google to not have it available now. If I was a developer who got it free I would want to be able to try it out with my friends. After all it is supposed to be a social media device. It restricts the social aspect if it is only available on JB devices.
btmec said:
I would just wait or else buy a Galaxy Nexus. My kids have Galaxy Nexus phones so I just rooted theirs and installed JB to work with my Nexus Q. The original shipments of the Nexus Q were supposed to ship 2-3 weeks from Google I/O so the app should be available anytime.
I think it is dumb for Google to not have it available now. If I was a developer who got it free I would want to be able to try it out with my friends. After all it is supposed to be a social media device. It restricts the social aspect if it is only available on JB devices.
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I wonder if they have it restricted to JB to try to prevent developers from selling theirs, if so I don't think it's working very well based on the number of them on eBay - LOL.
I'm going to be really bummed later this week when I get my Q and have nothing to control it with though.
I wonder if the problem is just the API level it's looking for or if there is something actually missing in ICS that prevents it from running properly with the current build.
Pretty sure it is somehow country specific in Play.
I was unable to install the apk to my JB Nexus 7 which I got at I/O. Being at home in Sweden. I was also unable to install it on my ICS Gnexus with a Telenor sim-card. I was however able to install it on my JB Gnexus (the one I got at I/O) which had my T-mobile sim-card.
I purchased two of these devices on ebay.
But I can't use them because I don't have JB device!
The above APK did not work on a rooted AT&T Galaxy Note with ICS.
I called and talked to google, and they said the non-JB package would be released when the product ships.
Just received the one I bought off of eBay and it sure is pretty - too bad I can't use it yet!
Any developer that can get the apk working on ICS before the official release from Google would get an automatic and significant donation from me (as well as my eternal gratitude)!
Despite my incredible lack of experience (absolutely 0) I did manage to get the apk to install on a couple ICS devices after modifying the manifest, rebuilding, resigning and re validating it (I will add my thanks to all the people's tools I used to do this later, I promise!!). I have it running on my unlocked and rooted LTE Xoom with the released ICS build and my Bionic running locked and unrooted leaked ICS. Both are a bit flakey however and both are telling me I need to update the Play Music application even though I've manually upgraded both to the 4.3.605 build. I did manage to get them to go through the network setup page and say it connected, showed services as Movies and YouTube but then both show it unavailable. I've reset the Q a couple of times and went back through the setup but so far I still can't manage it from either device. Right now my brain is cooked so I'll have to try it again tomorrow afternoon! Thanks for everyone here for their amazing contributions, I really hope the Q becomes a legend in Android history (in a very good way).
Ok, this is the APK on my rooted Verizon GNex, I'm using a ROM with JB to control my Q.
Hope it helps...
Well, I'm still stuck in the same place as yesterday but I decided to upload my modified APK in case anyone wants to try it on their ICS device.
WARNING!! I don't know what I'm doing and only managed to get this far thanks to awesome tools from others - use this file at your own risk!!!!!!!!!
If anyone can look at this thing and figure out why it won't let me connect to the Q after initial connection that would be awesome but I'm guessing that's not very likely either.
Thanks to: Kornyone his awesome work so far and telling me that changing the manifest got it working on his ICS device, Raziel123x for the Apk Multi-tool I used to sign this after modifying it and to iBotPeaches and Brut.all for the apktools. I apologize if I'm making you look bad with my unsuccessful efforts to use your excellent work.
Well, I've made a little bit of progress as I can now connect to the Q and change some rudimentary settings like HDMI, Optical, Brightness, etc. but it still tells me I need to upgrade the Play Music application, takes me to the Play Store and that of course tells me I have the latest build. Neither the Play Music or YouTube applications have the little button at the top to make it play on the Q. I also don't see anywhere to enable USB debugging as some others have been able to do, I was going to unlock it but can't access it via ADB without debugging turned on. Am I just missing that option somewhere else in the menu? It's not covered in the help topics at all.
I'm slightly pleased with myself for even getting it to install and connect but now I'm stuck again. :crying:
Any suggestions (other than buying a JB device or just waiting for the official app from el goog)?
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Well, I'm still stuck in the same place as yesterday but I decided to upload my modified APK in case anyone wants to try it on their ICS device.
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Still doesn't work on my T989 Galaxy S2 running ICS :crying:
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Still doesn't work on my T989 Galaxy S2 running ICS :crying:
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It won't even install?
I'm writing an article on the Nexus 7 and Jelly Bean, and I wonder if someone with more coding knowledge could help me out with something.
I'm wondering why so many apps are listed as "incompatible" with the Nexus 7. Is it the device configuration, or something to do with the way the apps are coded? Why would an app like NBA JAM work on a Galaxy Nexus but not a Nexus 7?
I think it's the default screen DPI value screwing things up.
Sent from my Galaxy S III
TheBiles said:
I think it's the default screen DPI value screwing things up.
Sent from my Galaxy S III
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That would cause apps to be listed as "incompatible" in the Play Store?
How can developers make apps more widely compatible? Shouldn't the Android SDK responsive design features take care of that?
Thanks!
A lot of the applications that are listed as incompatible are in fact compatible if side loaded onto the device, bypassing the Play Store.
I don't want to assume you are new to Android but usually within 2-4 weeks of a new Android OS launch, more applications will become compatible in the Play Store.
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A lot of the applications that are listed as incompatible are in fact compatible if side loaded onto the device, bypassing the Play Store.
I don't want to assume you are new to Android but usually within 2-4 weeks of a new Android OS launch, more applications will become compatible in the Play Store.
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I've been a Nexus user for a few years now, so I know that eventually apps will be updated, although it's always pretty annoying in the beginning. I'm just trying to understand better what developers have to do in order to make apps compatible with new devices and new versions of Android.
Many also show incompatible (such as Amazon) because they require a rear camera. They work fine when sideloaded (as mentioned above) but force close when trying to access the camera.
There's a build property for "highest version of android that this app will work for". Google advises against using it in the documentation, but a lot of devs set the max version to ICS anyway. Expect it to be corrected as more people get JB
In a few days, all going well, my 16GB Nexus 7 should arrive
I read somewhere that with Jelly bean it includes encryption that is specific to the device, so I was wondering as I have a lot of purchases through my google account for my current Nexus phone, can I transfer these app and games purchases onto my Nexus 7 device? Or do I have to buy them all again?
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In a few days, all going well, my 16GB Nexus should arrive
I read somewhere that with Jelly bean it includes encryption that is specific to the device, so I was wondering as I have a lot of purchases through my google account for my current Nexus phone, can I transfer these app and games purchases onto my Nexus 7 device?
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Yes as long as it's compatible with jellybean, meaning the developer that published the app hasn't abandoned it and it's been updated in the last month or two it will just install just like it does on your phone. In the newish playstore, just open the "My Apps" tab and swipe one page over and you will see every item you've ever installed or purchased and you can choose what to install.
Even if it's not compatible you can try sideloading the apk by copying the app to your memory and installing it and in most cases it works.
I actually haven't found an app I bought that wasn't compatible yet when I went to go download it unless it was caused by something I did with custom development on purpose.
ManMOuntain said:
In a few days, all going well, my 16GB Nexus 7 should arrive
I read somewhere that with Jelly bean it includes encryption that is specific to the device, so I was wondering as I have a lot of purchases through my google account for my current Nexus phone, can I transfer these app and games purchases onto my Nexus 7 device? Or do I have to buy them all again?
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If you use the same account you don't need to buy them all again.
Great to hear and thanks for the info
Greetings,
What are the trade-offs and benefits of installing full Android (CyanogenMod most likely) versus just installing the Google Play store? It seems like with the Google Play store you would have 90% of things right there. Just trying to identify if I need to install CM. I do like having Amazon's music/video service working on my Fire HD (v2012).
Thanks
Side note: I do run CynogenMod on my Galaxy SIII.
Hi!!
SteveOaks said:
Greetings,
What are the trade-offs and benefits of installing full Android (CyanogenMod most likely) versus just installing the Google Play store? It seems like with the Google Play store you would have 90% of things right there. Just trying to identify if I need to install CM. I do like having Amazon's music/video service working on my Fire HD (v2012).
Thanks
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Read cyanogenmod features, you will not regret installing
cyanogenmod disadvantage:
amazon will lose services
Not sure which amazon music/video service you were referring to but I thought I'd point out that last I checked the Google mp3 cloud service holds way more music than Amazon's for free. I mean even before I flashed cm I started using it just because of that and my mp3 collection is only around 2 thousand songs, whereas I think amazon does it by time limit. Another upside is some apps won't appear in the Google play store when running the amazon os that the kindle is perfectly able to run, but they do however show up in cm based OS's. Not to mention it's way easier to install whatever launcher you want without risk of softbricking in the event of you forgetting to set permissions, oh and wallpaper works without having to apply a fix. I feel a bit biased towards using non-stock roms because stock seems never to be enough for me but weigh it how you will.
Sent from my Amazon Kindle Fire HD running CM10.1 Tablet UI using xda-developers app